That's the consensus after Mississippi State fired Rick Ray following his third season in Starkville.
The win-loss record for Ray, formerly an assistant at Purdue and Clemson, on its own may be a fire-able offense. Under his direction the Bulldogs went 37-60 overall, 13-41 in Southeastern Conference play.
But a look inside those records shows improvement was being made at a place that had fallen on hard times prior to Ray's arrival.
Year One: 10-22, 4-14 (included 13-game losing streak)
Year Two: 14-19, 3-15 (included 13-game losing streak)
Year Three: 13-19, 6-12 (longest losing streak was five)
In his final season Ray directed the Cowbell Crew to a win over LSU, an NCAA Tournament team, and Vanderbilt, a team still playing in the NIT. The Bulldogs were playing more competitive basketball than they had in four years.
That's not the primary reason, however, why Ray's departure is premature.
He was luring legitimate talent to Starkville, a fact which many believe should've bought Ray more time to build on a program left in disarray when Rick Stansbury, now an assistant at Texas A&M, stepped aside in March 2012.
Rick Ray took over a complete dumpster fire, has improved and recruiting was looking up. I just don't get the decision— Brian Snow (@BSnowScout) March 21, 2015
Don't get firing Rick Ray. Still early. MSU is a difficult job. Extremely tough place to recruit to. He deserved more time.— Evan Daniels (@EvanDaniels) March 21, 2015
As a result of Ray's exit, at least one high-profile commitment has already had a change of heart.
Scout's Brian Snow reported that four-star shooting guard D'Marcus Simonds (Buford, GA) is no longer committed to the program, opening back up his recruitment. Simonds, for what it's worth, was being wooed previously and had offers from the likes of Kansas and Connecticut.
Here's what Scott Stricklin, athletic director for Mississippi State, had to say on the subject in a release.
"After much thought and deliberation, I have made the decision to replace Rick Ray as Mississippi State's men's basketball coach. This has been a difficult decision, as I have the utmost respect for Rick, and am highly appreciative of the effort he put forth in leading our basketball program. To Rick's credit, we have seen great strides from our student-athletes in several areas, including academics. However, the on-court results have not been satisfactory. In order for MSU to achieve success at the levels to which we aspire, I believe that a change is necessary at this time.
"Men's basketball is important to Mississippi State University, and history illustrates that we can compete for championships on a consistent basis. MSU has won six SEC championships, in four different decades, under three different coaches. We have seen the Bulldogs play in the sport's final weekend, and I firmly believe there are more achievements like those in our future.
"The search for a new head coach begins immediately, and I'm confident we will identify someone who wants to be a part of the winning culture that is occurring at Mississippi State University."
It's obvious this wasn't just change for the sake of change for Stricklin and Mississippi State, but it's difficult to envision what exactly Bulldog brass had in mind.
Their heads may be in the clouds thinking of SEC and NCAA Tournament runs of years past, but Ray's hands have been in the mud these past three years trying to get the program back to that level.
Now the new guy is going to have to start all over again, and he's not likely to have many top recruits in-hand to begin the arduous climb Ray was in the midst of prior to Saturday.