Another Look at Kansas State

With the regular season ending this weekend, the Bears and Wildcats meet up, following a wonderful 2-overtime win for the Bears in Waco.

Winners of 6 of their last 7 games, the Bears are one of the hotter teams in the Big 12. They go on the road to play in one of the toughest arenas to get a win at for the traveling team in the Big 12, to face Kansas State.

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Date Saturday, March 8 | 12:30 p.m. CT
Location Manhattan, Kan.; Bramlage Coliseum (12,528)
TV Big 12 Network
Radio ESPN Central Texas
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The Matchups

Baylor Starting Lineup
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
Kenny Chery
Brady Heslip
Royce O'Neale
Cory Jefferson
Isaiah Austin
#1 – 5-11, 180
#5 - 6-2, 180
#00 - 6-6, 220
#34 - 6-9, 220
#21 - 7-1, 225
Junior
Senior
Junior
Senior
Sophomore
Kansas State Starting Lineup
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
Marcus Foster
Will Spradling
Shane Southwell
Wesley Iwundu
Thomas Gipson
#2 – 6-2, 200
#55 – 6-2, 185
#1 – 6-7, 215
#25 – 6-7, 195
#42 – 6-7, 265
Freshman
Senior
Senior
Freshman
Junior

The last time these two teams played, senior wing Shane Southwell missed the game due to injury. Since he came back, he has been coming off of the bench with junior forward Nino Williams in his place. With this being senior day for the Wildcats though, you can expect Southwell to start and give the Wildcats a bit more size in the frontcourt. Williams though abused the Bears in Waco, scoring 20 points in a staggering 45 minutes of action due in the double overtime win for Baylor. Southwell though would seem to be even better suited for the role that Williams played in that game. Attacking the middle of the defense, and able to penetrate off the dribble or use back screen cuts into the open areas of the zone.

Outside of having Southwell available, this will be a very similar lineup for both teams. The Wildcats are led by freshman guard Marcus Foster, who averages a team high 15 points per game. He takes almost 31% of the shots for the Wildcats (71st highest individual rate in the country), but is coming off of two subpar games against Oklahoma State and Iowa State.

NCAA Basketball Stats

With Foster being their primary ball handler and shooter, the Wildcats have put shooters and offensive rebounders around him. Will Spradling is their off-guard, and can also initiate the offense. A solid shooter, who sometimes is too quick to pass, he gives them another long-range shooter capable of stretching out the defense. Their main big-man is Thomas Gipson, a 6-foot-7 burly forward who is very good on the offensive glass and is tough to stop down low. He is tremendous at fighting for position and getting offensive put-backs.

The wildcats don't have a lot of size, with Gipson, Southwell and also freshman forward Wesley Iwundu being 6-foot-7, and backup big-man D.J. Johnson at 6-foot-9. Outside of those four, Nino Williams at 6-foot-5 is their only other option down low.

The Rankings

Rankings Baylor Kansas State
AP Poll N/A 31
Coaches Poll N/A 27
KenPom 34 43
Massey 38 48
Sagarin 30 39
RealTime RPI 38 37
RPI Forecast 39 41
ESPN RPI 43 40
ESPN BPI 44 49

This is one of the most even matchups of the year for the Bears, with the Wildcats being higher ranked than the Bears in 4 rankings, and the Bears being higher in 5. The edge is slightly towards Baylor, but it isn't much of an edge. Both of the voting and two of the three RPI sites favor the Wildcats, while all of the analytical and pace-drive sites favor the Bears. None of the sites has either team farther than 10 spots ahead of the other though.

The Stats

NCAA Basketball

Looking at the game through this lens, the Bears should be heavily favored. They are the better shooting team, the exact same on turnovers and Baylor has a significant advantage at getting to the free throw line and on the offensive glass. The Bears have the much stronger offense in this game, but the Wildcats are uniquely built to take away one of the two things that drives the Bears high offensive marks; stopping the 3-point shot.

When Baylor has the Ball
Statistic Baylor Rank Kansas State Rank
KenPom Effeciency 115.8 16 93.9 18
Points Per Possession 1.15 15 0.97 33
Effective FG % 52.0% 83 44.7% 25
Turnover % 18.6% 202 19.1% 133
Rebound % 42.0% 3 67.1% 267
3P % 38.8% 33 28.7% 5
2P % 48.7% 188 45.4% 74

When Kansas State has the Ball
Statistic Baylor Rank Kansas State Rank
KenPom Effeciency 100.2 87 107.0 124
Points Per Possession 1.04 167 1.04 201
Effective FG % 48.1% 116 48.6% 2229
Turnover % 16.2% 312 18.6% 202
Rebound % 68.5% 199 35.1% 65
3P % 35.7% 258 32.8% 248
2P % 45.4% 73 48.2% 210

This is a Kansas State team that is built around a tough defense that challenges shots all over the field, and focuses on taking away the 3-point shot first. In the first matchup between these two teams, the Bears shot just 6 of 25 from behind the 3-point arc, however they made three of those in the two overtime periods. Baylor was just 3-19 from 3-point range after the first 40 minutes of action were up. This is a team that shoots just under 39% from deep on average. The Wildcats stop 3-point shooting teams.

Another even break-down, with both teams winning a total of 7 categories. The Bears win the pace adjusted numbers, but Kansas State better at turnovers and the 3-point battle. The Kansas State offense struggles to score quite a bit at times, not a surprising outcome when you have a ball-dominant freshman point guard as your focal point. They rank in the bottom half of the NCAA in turnover %, 2-point field goal % and 3-point field goal %. However, the Wildcats are an above average team on the offensive glass, and that help off-set some of the poor shooting.

This is strength versus strength game, as the Bears offense and the Wildcat defense are the two strongest units this game will feature. Both are ranked in the Top 20 by KenPom and have good points per possession numbers to back that up.

Keys to the Game

1. Own the glass – The Wildcats are not a very good defensive rebounding team at all. They have below average height in the front court, especially when Nino Williams at just 6-foot-5 is in the game. The Bears post players are taller, stronger and more athletic than what Kansas State has. The Bears also have better depth, with three guys that are good enough to start for almost any team in the country. The Bears offensive rebounding has been excellent all year, but they can't give the undersized Wildcats a bunch of 2nd chances to put up points either.

2. Make KSU Guards uncomfortable – When Marcus Foster struggles, so do the Wildcats. Oklahoma State pestered and annoyed the freshman guard in their last game very effectively. Too bad the Bears don't have anyone resembling Marcus Smart on defense. Foster is a good shooter, but sometimes can fall in love with his jump shot. When the Bears are in their zone defense, they have to remember to come out quickly on Foster and his backcourt mate Spradling quickly, and make them put the ball down and go into the lane. Catch and shoot opportunities for both of these shooters is not a good thing for the Bears.

3. Attack down-low – The Wildcats are a tremendous 3-point defensive team. They challenge hard, and that can sometimes leave penetration lanes off of pump fakes, or more space down low for post players. The bears did not do a great job of taking advantage of those areas in their first matchup, so look for some key adjustments from Baylor offensively. First, they have been focusing more of their offensive through Cory Jefferson since their last matchup with KSU, so expect that to continue.

With Kansas State simply not having the size down low to matchup one-on-one with the Baylor posts, they will have to make the tough call to leave them isolated down low or come with a double team. If the double team comes, Austin and Jefferson have to read it quickly and make their move away from the 2nd man, or kick the ball out. Jefferson has been doing this very well recently, but Austin has struggled with turnovers when faced with a double team. He has a tendancy to always spin away from the double team towards the baseline and has been called for a few travels or stepping out of bounds as a result.

Predictions

KenPom.com – Kansas State wins 65-62 (38% chance for Baylor win)

Massey.com – Kansas State wins 67-63 (35% chance for Baylor win)

RealTime RPI – Kansas State wins 76-69

Tim Watkins BearsIllustrated.com Writer– Bears win 68-67

This really is one of the more even matchups for the Bears all year. Both teams can point to certain areas and say we matchup perfectly with them. Heck, the first game between these two teams needed 2 overtimes to decide a winner. The Bears have to take advantage of their biggest advantage though, their size down low. If the Bears can get points down low and even put the Wildcats into foul trouble, they should have enough advantages elsewhere to get a great win on the road and finish .500 in Big 12 play.


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With Foster being their primary ball handler and shooter, the Wildcats have put shooters and offensive rebounders around him. Will Spradling is their off-guard, and can also initiate the offense. A solid shooter, who sometimes is too quick to pass, he gives them another long-range shooter capable of stretching out the defense. Their main big-man is Thomas Gipson, a 6-foot-7 burly forward who is very good on the offensive glass and is tough to stop down low. He is tremendous at fighting for position and getting offensive put-backs.

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The wildcats don't have a lot of size, with Gipson, Southwell and also freshman forward Wesley Iwundu being 6-foot-7, and backup big-man D.J. Johnson at 6-foot-9. Outside of those four, Nino Williams at 6-foot-5 is their only other option down low.

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The Rankings

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RankingsBaylorKansas State
AP PollN/A 31
Coaches PollN/A 27
KenPom3443
Massey3848
Sagarin3039
RealTime RPI3837
RPI Forecast3941
ESPN RPI4340
ESPN BPI4449
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This is one of the most even matchups of the year for the Bears, with the Wildcats being higher ranked than the Bears in 4 rankings, and the Bears being higher in 5. The edge is slightly towards Baylor, but it isn't much of an edge. Both of the voting and two of the three RPI sites favor the Wildcats, while all of the analytical and pace-drive sites favor the Bears. None of the sites has either team farther than 10 spots ahead of the other though.

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The Stats

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Looking at the game through this lens, the Bears should be heavily favored. They are the better shooting team, the exact same on turnovers and Baylor has a significant advantage at getting to the free throw line and on the offensive glass. The Bears have the much stronger offense in this game, but the Wildcats are uniquely built to take away one of the two things that drives the Bears high offensive marks; stopping the 3-point shot.

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When Baylor has the Ball
StatisticBaylorRankKansas StateRank
KenPom Effeciency115.81693.918
Points Per Possession1.15150.9733
Effective FG %52.0%8344.7%25
Turnover %18.6%20219.1%133
Rebound %42.0%367.1%267
3P %38.8%3328.7%5
2P %48.7%18845.4%74
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When Kansas State has the Ball
StatisticBaylorRankKansas StateRank
KenPom Effeciency100.287107.0124
Points Per Possession1.041671.04201
Effective FG %48.1%11648.6%2229
Turnover %16.2%31218.6%202
Rebound %68.5%19935.1%65
3P %35.7%25832.8%248
2P %45.4%7348.2%210
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This is a Kansas State team that is built around a tough defense that challenges shots all over the field, and focuses on taking away the 3-point shot first. In the first matchup between these two teams, the Bears shot just 6 of 25 from behind the 3-point arc, however they made three of those in the two overtime periods. Baylor was just 3-19 from 3-point range after the first 40 minutes of action were up. This is a team that shoots just under 39% from deep on average. The Wildcats stop 3-point shooting teams.

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Another even break-down, with both teams winning a total of 7 categories. The Bears win the pace adjusted numbers, but Kansas State better at turnovers and the 3-point battle. The Kansas State offense struggles to score quite a bit at times, not a surprising outcome when you have a ball-dominant freshman point guard as your focal point. They rank in the bottom half of the NCAA in turnover %, 2-point field goal % and 3-point field goal %. However, the Wildcats are an above average team on the offensive glass, and that help off-set some of the poor shooting.

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This is strength versus strength game, as the Bears offense and the Wildcat defense are the two strongest units this game will feature. Both are ranked in the Top 20 by KenPom and have good points per possession numbers to back that up.

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Keys to the Game

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1. Own the glass – The Wildcats are not a very good defensive rebounding team at all. They have below average height in the front court, especially when Nino Williams at just 6-foot-5 is in the game. The Bears post players are taller, stronger and more athletic than what Kansas State has. The Bears also have better depth, with three guys that are good enough to start for almost any team in the country. The Bears offensive rebounding has been excellent all year, but they can't give the undersized Wildcats a bunch of 2nd chances to put up points either.

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2. Make KSU Guards uncomfortable – When Marcus Foster struggles, so do the Wildcats. Oklahoma State pestered and annoyed the freshman guard in their last game very effectively. Too bad the Bears don't have anyone resembling Marcus Smart on defense. Foster is a good shooter, but sometimes can fall in love with his jump shot. When the Bears are in their zone defense, they have to remember to come out quickly on Foster and his backcourt mate Spradling quickly, and make them put the ball down and go into the lane. Catch and shoot opportunities for both of these shooters is not a good thing for the Bears.

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3. Attack down-low – The Wildcats are a tremendous 3-point defensive team. They challenge hard, and that can sometimes leave penetration lanes off of pump fakes, or more space down low for post players. The bears did not do a great job of taking advantage of those areas in their first matchup, so look for some key adjustments from Baylor offensively. First, they have been focusing more of their offensive through Cory Jefferson since their last matchup with KSU, so expect that to continue.

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With Kansas State simply not having the size down low to matchup one-on-one with the Baylor posts, they will have to make the tough call to leave them isolated down low or come with a double team. If the double team comes, Austin and Jefferson have to read it quickly and make their move away from the 2nd man, or kick the ball out. Jefferson has been doing this very well recently, but Austin has struggled with turnovers when faced with a double team. He has a tendancy to always spin away from the double team towards the baseline and has been called for a few travels or stepping out of bounds as a result.

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Predictions

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KenPom.com – Kansas State wins 65-62 (38% chance for Baylor win)

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Massey.com – Kansas State wins 67-63 (35% chance for Baylor win)

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RealTime RPI – Kansas State wins 76-69

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Tim Watkins BearsIllustrated.com Writer– Bears win 68-67

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This really is one of the more even matchups for the Bears all year. Both teams can point to certain areas and say we matchup perfectly with them. Heck, the first game between these two teams needed 2 overtimes to decide a winner. The Bears have to take advantage of their biggest advantage though, their size down low. If the Bears can get points down low and even put the Wildcats into foul trouble, they should have enough advantages elsewhere to get a great win on the road and finish .500 in Big 12 play.

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Winners of 6 of their last 7 games, the Bears are one of the hotter teams in the Big 12. They go on the road to play in one of the toughest arenas to get a win at for the traveling team in the Big 12, to face Kansas State.

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