Mailbag - Let's talk Recruiting

It is time for another mailbag, this time with recruiting in mind. The BearsIllustrated staff takes questions on the 2015 and 2016 classes, and gives you the scoop.

In this installation of our mailbag, we take questions on recruiting, from you, our actual readers. Publisher Tim Watkins and Recruiting Analyst Kevin Barrera Enjoy!

● Can Baylor be overstacked at the WR position with too much talent possibly making other targets to look elsewhere? Also, with the addition of some new DL and DB guys will our rushing attack finally pick up?

To answer your first question, I think yes and no. Baylor has had no issues recruiting big time WR prospects and letting them flourish. KD Cannon was the first true freshmen to play since Kendall Wright. But KD was special. I don't beleive that we have anyone we are recruiting that could make an impact that KD did. However, Tren'Davian is also special. So I guess to answer your question, I don't think we can have too much talent because will allow the players to get touches, but I do think that it limits the amount of top prospects we can go after. With Tren'Davian committed, it could scare off Devin Duvernay, but at the same time, if they like competition, and they trust the process, then both of these prospects know that they can have a name in this offense.

As to your second question, the most honest answer is we won't know the impact of the new guys for at least 2 years. I do believe the defense is still 2 years away, so at that time it may be a good barrier. Funny thing is our defense was ranked in the top 30, but the coaches know that we need to be better in that area. Look for Jordan Tolbert and J.W. Ketchum to make an impact early. Out of the defensive recruits, I believe they are the most ready. – Kevin Barrera

Not sure any of them start, but I think JW Ketchum, and possibly Jordan Tolbert, are the recruits to watch out for. Ketchum is an elite Safety prospect and Tolbert is the most skilled of the DB recruit. Depending on our Special Teams situation, Tony Nicholson could get a look there, but I don't see him making an impact on the defense right yet. – Kevin Barrera

The biggest need will be on the lines. With a big class expected (probably close to 25), I would not be shocked to see at least 10 linemen in this class. We already have 1 offensive lineman committed in Patrick Hudson, and 1 defensive lineman in Jordan Elliott. Both of those players are 4-star recruits. Expect many more biggies to commit to the Bears as we go farther into the 2016 recruiting cycle.

In regards to junior college recruits, I am a believer in them as a stop-gap measure, especially on the offensive line and on defense. I doubt we will take any juco offensive lineman in the 2016 class, as we have two in this class, along with 2 transfers. Defensively, we are just not at the same level yet in recruiting as we see on the offensive side of the ball. Juco’s are a great way to get some overlooked players. It has worked out very well at times for the Bears with Eddie Lackey, K. J. Morton and Joe Williams being multiple year starters. So yes, I am a fan of juco players when you miss in certain areas. – Tim Watkins

Besides Ketchum, I think the one most likely to make an early impact will be Jordan Tolbert. Kid has the best skill and intangibles of all the DB recruits. He's itching to get back on the field and has put in work for over a year to get to this point. He will be the most hungry. – Kevin Barrera

Really...no one. I think all of the other defensive recruits are more projects and I expect all of them to redshirt. The Bears will get some reinforcements though, as the 2014 class kids that redshirted are getting good reviews. I am excited to see Verkedric Vaughns, Jourdan Blake and even Chance Waz (who did not redshirt) possibly compete for bigger roles. Also, Josh Malin looks like a potential difference maker to me in another year, so him getting some playing time this year would be nice. – Tim Watkins

I have long thought that the Bears ability to convert Arabian horses to much more of a Baptist theology would be a difference maker, if we could ever get equestrian. Our #1 ranking in the WORLD says that my thoughts were right. Coach Ellen White has brought together a good team, full of talented ladies and horses. Heck, we even beat those dirty aggies recently. The Ladies are 10-0, ranked #1 in the nation and are halfway through their schedule. They face off (is that the right term???) against TCU on Valentine’s Day, and if a score of 61-58 was possible (checking….no. No it is not possible), I know what I would want to win by. – Tim Watkins

● Any feel for the impact Cris Dishman will have on bringing talent for the DB and ultimately developing it?

With just more than a week before signing day for Dishman to make a big impact on the 2015 class and secure one of Kris Boyd or Holton Hill, we failed at both. That is not an indictment of Dishman, but it is a fact. We missed on a bunch of top tier defensive backs this year, and had to “settle” on some guys farther down the list. The development of the guys we have on campus is going to be key for next year. We have all of our contributors returning for another season, so they need to take a step forward in their development. Dishman has to be the guy to get them ready. Art Briles and Phil Bennett are obviously believers in his work, or they would not have brought him on. Out of all of the positions, the defensive backfield might be getting most of my attention when camp time comes. – Tim Watkins

I think we are already starting to see some of it. Defensive tackle commitment Jordan Elliott is a top-tier guy, and a legitimate difference maker in the middle. He is the highest rated defensive tackle commit of the Briles era not named Javonte Magee or Andrew Billings. They also have a commitment from a rising cornerback star in Grayland Arnold. With a bunch of new offers going out (especially to defensive backs, maybe Dishman had some thoughts on a few guys that were different than previous staff), we are already seeing more of a focus on the defensive side of the ball. Simply put, we are taking larger numbers on that side of the ball every season, as Briles is confident of his success rate on offense. – Tim Watkins

About that….look, I am all for recruiting to your strengths. I got really excited seeing that sign at the junior days. Waco is seeing some great development, and more and more high quality brands are making their way to Waco. It just seems foolish to elaborate the facts (and that is best case, you can just as easily say flat out lie). It is just another little thing that Baylor just doesn’t need to do anymore. Channel surfing, I saw them talking about this on SportsNation, and stopped and watched it. It was pretty much all negative, except for the “you don’t need to do this anymore Baylor, you have arrived”. I got emails and jokes sent my way by non-Baylor friends (and even a few Bears) making light of the most recent “thing” that Baylor did. To think in this day and age that you could get away with that type of “trick” is just not very bright. – Tim Watkins


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Not sure any of them start, but I think JW Ketchum, and possibly Jordan Tolbert, are the recruits to watch out for. Ketchum is an elite Safety prospect and Tolbert is the most skilled of the DB recruit. Depending on our Special Teams situation, Tony Nicholson could get a look there, but I don't see him making an impact on the defense right yet. – Kevin Barrera

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@baylorscout what is our biggest recruiting need in 2016? Should we go JUCO or do we go for talent that we might not get?

— Matt McBrayer (@McBeezy) February 4, 2015
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The biggest need will be on the lines. With a big class expected (probably close to 25), I would not be shocked to see at least 10 linemen in this class. We already have 1 offensive lineman committed in Patrick Hudson, and 1 defensive lineman in Jordan Elliott. Both of those players are 4-star recruits. Expect many more biggies to commit to the Bears as we go farther into the 2016 recruiting cycle.

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In regards to junior college recruits, I am a believer in them as a stop-gap measure, especially on the offensive line and on defense. I doubt we will take any juco offensive lineman in the 2016 class, as we have two in this class, along with 2 transfers. Defensively, we are just not at the same level yet in recruiting as we see on the offensive side of the ball. Juco’s are a great way to get some overlooked players. It has worked out very well at times for the Bears with Eddie Lackey, K. J. Morton and Joe Williams being multiple year starters. So yes, I am a fan of juco players when you miss in certain areas. – Tim Watkins

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@baylorscout besides Ketchum, who is most likely to make instant impact on defense?

— Grant Senter (@SportsSenter) February 4, 2015
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Besides Ketchum, I think the one most likely to make an early impact will be Jordan Tolbert. Kid has the best skill and intangibles of all the DB recruits. He's itching to get back on the field and has put in work for over a year to get to this point. He will be the most hungry. – Kevin Barrera

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Really...no one. I think all of the other defensive recruits are more projects and I expect all of them to redshirt. The Bears will get some reinforcements though, as the 2014 class kids that redshirted are getting good reviews. I am excited to see Verkedric Vaughns, Jourdan Blake and even Chance Waz (who did not redshirt) possibly compete for bigger roles. Also, Josh Malin looks like a potential difference maker to me in another year, so him getting some playing time this year would be nice. – Tim Watkins

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@baylorscout our equestrian team needs to recruit new horses. do we go the high school ffa route or junior rodeo circuit

— David Fankhauser (@dfank_BU) February 4, 2015
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I have long thought that the Bears ability to convert Arabian horses to much more of a Baptist theology would be a difference maker, if we could ever get equestrian. Our #1 ranking in the WORLD says that my thoughts were right. Coach Ellen White has brought together a good team, full of talented ladies and horses. Heck, we even beat those dirty aggies recently. The Ladies are 10-0, ranked #1 in the nation and are halfway through their schedule. They face off (is that the right term???) against TCU on Valentine’s Day, and if a score of 61-58 was possible (checking….no. No it is not possible), I know what I would want to win by. – Tim Watkins

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● Any feel for the impact Cris Dishman will have on bringing talent for the DB and ultimately developing it?

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With just more than a week before signing day for Dishman to make a big impact on the 2015 class and secure one of Kris Boyd or Holton Hill, we failed at both. That is not an indictment of Dishman, but it is a fact. We missed on a bunch of top tier defensive backs this year, and had to “settle” on some guys farther down the list. The development of the guys we have on campus is going to be key for next year. We have all of our contributors returning for another season, so they need to take a step forward in their development. Dishman has to be the guy to get them ready. Art Briles and Phil Bennett are obviously believers in his work, or they would not have brought him on. Out of all of the positions, the defensive backfield might be getting most of my attention when camp time comes. – Tim Watkins

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@baylorscout expectations for the 2016 class: Do we finally get the def. talent that we've been getting on offense for years?

— Matt McBrayer (@McBeezy) February 4, 2015
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I think we are already starting to see some of it. Defensive tackle commitment Jordan Elliott is a top-tier guy, and a legitimate difference maker in the middle. He is the highest rated defensive tackle commit of the Briles era not named Javonte Magee or Andrew Billings. They also have a commitment from a rising cornerback star in Grayland Arnold. With a bunch of new offers going out (especially to defensive backs, maybe Dishman had some thoughts on a few guys that were different than previous staff), we are already seeing more of a focus on the defensive side of the ball. Simply put, we are taking larger numbers on that side of the ball every season, as Briles is confident of his success rate on offense. – Tim Watkins

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@baylorscout when is In-N-Out Burger coming to Waco?

— Stan Perry (@perry_stan) February 5, 2015
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About that….look, I am all for recruiting to your strengths. I got really excited seeing that sign at the junior days. Waco is seeing some great development, and more and more high quality brands are making their way to Waco. It just seems foolish to elaborate the facts (and that is best case, you can just as easily say flat out lie). It is just another little thing that Baylor just doesn’t need to do anymore. Channel surfing, I saw them talking about this on SportsNation, and stopped and watched it. It was pretty much all negative, except for the “you don’t need to do this anymore Baylor, you have arrived”. I got emails and jokes sent my way by non-Baylor friends (and even a few Bears) making light of the most recent “thing” that Baylor did. To think in this day and age that you could get away with that type of “trick” is just not very bright. – Tim Watkins

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In this installation of our mailbag, we take questions on recruiting, from you, our actual readers. Publisher Tim Watkins and Recruiting Analyst Kevin Barrera Enjoy!

To answer your first question, I think yes and no. Baylor has had no issues recruiting big time WR prospects and letting them flourish. KD Cannon was the first true freshmen to play since Kendall Wright. But KD was special. I don't beleive that we have anyone we are recruiting that could make an impact that KD did. However, Tren'Davian is also special. So I guess to answer your question, I don't think we can have too much talent because will allow the players to get touches, but I do think that it limits the amount of top prospects we can go after. With Tren'Davian committed, it could scare off Devin Duvernay, but at the same time, if they like competition, and they trust the process, then both of these prospects know that they can have a name in this offense.

As to your second question, the most honest answer is we won't know the impact of the new guys for at least 2 years. I do believe the defense is still 2 years away, so at that time it may be a good barrier. Funny thing is our defense was ranked in the top 30, but the coaches know that we need to be better in that area. Look for Jordan Tolbert and J.W. Ketchum to make an impact early. Out of the defensive recruits, I believe they are the most ready. –

@baylorscout are any of the LBs or DBs we got penciled in to start immediately? I was thinking Ketchum potentially?

— Kevin Brown (@ibuyhousesdfw) February 4, 2015

Not sure any of them start, but I think JW Ketchum, and possibly Jordan Tolbert, are the recruits to watch out for. Ketchum is an elite Safety prospect and Tolbert is the most skilled of the DB recruit. Depending on our Special Teams situation, Tony Nicholson could get a look there, but I don't see him making an impact on the defense right yet. –

@baylorscout what is our biggest recruiting need in 2016? Should we go JUCO or do we go for talent that we might not get?

— Matt McBrayer (@McBeezy) February 4, 2015

The biggest need will be on the lines. With a big class expected (probably close to 25), I would not be shocked to see at least 10 linemen in this class. We already have 1 offensive lineman committed in Patrick Hudson, and 1 defensive lineman in Jordan Elliott. Both of those players are 4-star recruits. Expect many more biggies to commit to the Bears as we go farther into the 2016 recruiting cycle.

In regards to junior college recruits, I am a believer in them as a stop-gap measure, especially on the offensive line and on defense. I doubt we will take any juco offensive lineman in the 2016 class, as we have two in this class, along with 2 transfers. Defensively, we are just not at the same level yet in recruiting as we see on the offensive side of the ball. Juco’s are a great way to get some overlooked players. It has worked out very well at times for the Bears with Eddie Lackey, K. J. Morton and Joe Williams being multiple year starters. So yes, I am a fan of juco players when you miss in certain areas. –

@baylorscout besides Ketchum, who is most likely to make instant impact on defense?

— Grant Senter (@SportsSenter) February 4, 2015

Besides Ketchum, I think the one most likely to make an early impact will be Jordan Tolbert. Kid has the best skill and intangibles of all the DB recruits. He's itching to get back on the field and has put in work for over a year to get to this point. He will be the most hungry. –

Really...no one. I think all of the other defensive recruits are more projects and I expect all of them to redshirt. The Bears will get some reinforcements though, as the 2014 class kids that redshirted are getting good reviews. I am excited to see Verkedric Vaughns, Jourdan Blake and even Chance Waz (who did not redshirt) possibly compete for bigger roles. Also, Josh Malin looks like a potential difference maker to me in another year, so him getting some playing time this year would be nice. –

@baylorscout our equestrian team needs to recruit new horses. do we go the high school ffa route or junior rodeo circuit

— David Fankhauser (@dfank_BU) February 4, 2015

I have long thought that the Bears ability to convert Arabian horses to much more of a Baptist theology would be a difference maker, if we could ever get equestrian. Our #1 ranking in the WORLD says that my thoughts were right. Coach Ellen White has brought together a good team, full of talented ladies and horses. Heck, we even beat those dirty aggies recently. The Ladies are 10-0, ranked #1 in the nation and are halfway through their schedule. They face off (is that the right term???) against TCU on Valentine’s Day, and if a score of 61-58 was possible (checking….no. No it is not possible), I know what I would want to win by. –

With just more than a week before signing day for Dishman to make a big impact on the 2015 class and secure one of Kris Boyd or Holton Hill, we failed at both. That is not an indictment of Dishman, but it is a fact. We missed on a bunch of top tier defensive backs this year, and had to “settle” on some guys farther down the list. The development of the guys we have on campus is going to be key for next year. We have all of our contributors returning for another season, so they need to take a step forward in their development. Dishman has to be the guy to get them ready. Art Briles and Phil Bennett are obviously believers in his work, or they would not have brought him on. Out of all of the positions, the defensive backfield might be getting most of my attention when camp time comes. –

@baylorscout expectations for the 2016 class: Do we finally get the def. talent that we've been getting on offense for years?

— Matt McBrayer (@McBeezy) February 4, 2015

I think we are already starting to see some of it. Defensive tackle commitment Jordan Elliott is a top-tier guy, and a legitimate difference maker in the middle. He is the highest rated defensive tackle commit of the Briles era not named Javonte Magee or Andrew Billings. They also have a commitment from a rising cornerback star in Grayland Arnold. With a bunch of new offers going out (especially to defensive backs, maybe Dishman had some thoughts on a few guys that were different than previous staff), we are already seeing more of a focus on the defensive side of the ball. Simply put, we are taking larger numbers on that side of the ball every season, as Briles is confident of his success rate on offense. –

@baylorscout when is In-N-Out Burger coming to Waco?

— Stan Perry (@perry_stan) February 5, 2015

About that….look, I am all for recruiting to your strengths. I got really excited seeing that sign at the junior days. Waco is seeing some great development, and more and more high quality brands are making their way to Waco. It just seems foolish to elaborate the facts (and that is best case, you can just as easily say flat out lie). It is just another little thing that Baylor just doesn’t need to do anymore. Channel surfing, I saw them talking about this on SportsNation, and stopped and watched it. It was pretty much all negative, except for the “you don’t need to do this anymore Baylor, you have arrived”. I got emails and jokes sent my way by non-Baylor friends (and even a few Bears) making light of the most recent “thing” that Baylor did. To think in this day and age that you could get away with that type of “trick” is just not very bright. –

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