Coach Boyle: Changing the Game. Part 2

The buzz you hear coming from Haas Pavilion? It’s coming from the office of women’s basketball coach Joanne Boyle. This is part 2 of a 2 part series.

You do have a really young team this year. Only Renee Wright is a senior. And you don’t have many players who have had a lot of playing time.

Not at the college level, no. Jessica (Lawson) is only a sophomore and Krista (Foster) is a sophomore. There is such an unknown out there. At Richmond, we left when we had the twelfth best class coming in, but we also had 5 seniors returning. I was sitting there foaming at the mouth, going, we’re going to be a Sweet Sixteen team! But with this group, I have no idea where we’re going to be… We could be throwing the ball in the stands every other time down the court. You don’t have a senior point guard that has all this leadership.

Well, if the play at the SF ProCity is any indication, they’ll be OK. Let’s get back to the returning players. When I’ve talked to some of them about you, the first thing they say is how intense you are…

Yes, I am.

But the next sentence out of their mouths is, “Then off the court, I feel like I can be her friend.”

I think we all develop our own personalities; I’ve been at this for fourteen years. I’ve always lived my life as what you see is what you get. I’m a type A; I’m very competitive. I just have this drive to be successful in whatever I do. That’s a good thing and that’s a bad thing. It’s like fear of failure - that’s what it is. I know it.

At the same time, off the court, I’m just a laid-back person. I’m not an intense person off the floor, in terms of with my friends. I’m a loner. I enjoy being by myself. I’m a big reader. I love to travel. And now, I’m big with my faith … I’ve learned over time, what is my purpose on this earth? Is it to win games, or it to make an impact on people? And the only way you do that is to earn people’s trust. I just try to be as honest with people as I can. I don’t ever have a hidden agenda with anybody. What I’m trying to do is build trusting relationships. So that’s the other part.

But am I intense on the floor? Yes, I am.

Will we get to see some of this intensity? Are your practices open to the public?

No. That’s my sanctuary when I’m in there with them. A lot of parents have asked me that, but it’s just too distracting. I don’t want it to be a public display. That is my one time with them where I get to teach, I get to coach, I get to yell, I get to hug, I get to be personal with them. For me that’s very personal, private time. The product is the game, and that’s what I want people to see, but the other stuff, that’s very private.

Do you have a specific style of play, or will much depend on your personnel?

Back at Richmond, we ran the Princeton system. One of our assistants has connections with the New Jersey Nets, so we went there and got help from them. But we weren’t a very athletic team. And the team I have now has speed and athleticism, so I have things that will work for them.

Do you prefer to play with a small rotation, or do anticipate playing lots of different people?

My preference is to have an eight-player rotation. I think it brings stability, and people know what they need to do, what their goal is. If you want to play, you make sure you’re one of the eight.

Despite their losing records, the Cal teams the last few years have made some progress in terms of attendance, much of which has been attributed to their work in the community. What are your goals in these areas? I did see that your attendance was not very strong at Richmond…

For me, it’s not just about the wins and losses. For me, seeing five hundred kids coming to your games and signing autographs afterwards, that’s a big part of it. And it’s about us giving back and not living in our little bubble, which we all do as college students with our $40,000 scholarships. I tell them, this isn’t real world here, you guys. Real world is the homeless people on the street, or the kids who only get two meals a day, and one of those is at school. We’ll be a team that will do a lot of community service. I do it personally, and I think that everyone should, especially with the gifts we’ve been given, we need to give back to our community. So that’s part of who we are, that will be part of our identity.

The ticket sales and all that, Sandy has made a commitment, with the recognition of all the local kids coming in, to springboard this year in particular into the community, and to really make a huge effort. And I’ve had quite a few good meetings with marketing and I’m comfortable that they’ll do what they need to do to promote us.

You’ve lost a few players off the roster since you arrived. Seda Erdogan and Ami Soumare were lost to eligibility and injury, respectively. Confirm for me please: are all five freshmen are fully qualified?

Yes. For whatever reason, people always assume, because Levy (Gray-Lawson) and Devanei (Hampton) are like this … I mean Lexy has always been fine academically, always, so I hate the fact that people ... Anyway, Devanei just killed on her last SATs, she did great. She needs to take care of business in summer school, but she’ll be fine.

What happened with Brio Rode? Why did she leave?

I think you always are going to have a little transition – a new coach, new expectations. Everybody has to fill a role on team, whether you like it or not. The thing that I always say is, “You have to be positive, you have to work hard, and you have to go to class.” Those are the only three things that I require of anybody here. And if those three things are not happening, then the fit is not going to work. I think she made a decision that this may not be the best place for her right now based on my expectations. So she’s going to a junior college.

So all of a sudden you have all these scholarships you did not have before. Does that cause a big scramble now?

Yes, I mean the thing is, at Richmond, we could get in on some kids late when I took over the job because at the time we were considered a mid-major (I don’t think we finished there, but at the time, but anyway) so then you could get in on kids late. At this level, these kids have been recruited for two or three years. Case in point, with one top-five player that we just missed out on - how do you get in on a kid in May and expect to sign her three months later – it’s not going to happen. So I think we are behind in the ’06 class, but I’m surprised and excited about who we have gotten in on late.

I can’t say who they are, but they are nationally prominent kids who are also looking at the top 10 schools in the country. I feel good about the 4,5,6 kids that we’re in on, and one foreign kid as well. So I feel good about where we are. We might get them all; we might get none. But at least we are in their top 2, top 3, and in one her top 5. We’re in the mix there. I think we’ve done a great job with the ’07 class, getting in early and spending so much time in the office getting on board with them so that we aren’t behind the 8-ball. I think we’ve really caught up with the ‘07s - I think we’ll be in there with everybody else.

But no late signing for this year then?

No, we’re done for ’05.

At this point, do you recruit more for need in terms of positions or for best available player?

Both. But when I say best available player, I’m not just talking about their talent on the court. I also mean their character, and what kind of student they are. We’re building a program, and it goes back to what I said earlier about chemistry. The player has to be a good fit with the expectations we have.

I notice that at Richmond a couple of your kids came from the Peddie school – perhaps a bit of a pipeline. But I assume you’ll want to establish yourself in the recruiting battleground in California?

Yes California, and Bay Area in particular. You want to recruit the best California kids. By far, you want to keep California kids in California.

But again, other things have to be there too. They have to work hard. They have to be good students. They have to buy into what we’re doing. Just because they’re California kids doesn’t mean you can take them if these things aren’t in place.

But I also want to recruit the best kids in the country. If the best point guard is in New York, and the fifth best point guard is in California, then I want to go after the kid in New York. But I do want to keep the kids in California who are the best kids in the country. Yes, I definitely do. And yes, our focus will be more West Coast, but New York kids will travel, certain kids will travel. Private school kids will travel, for the experience of the education. And international kids will travel. So when you talk about the recruiting base, it’s California and the West Coast, and then you’re going to be able to hopefully handpick a few a year nationally, probably more out of New York than anywhere else.

As a head coach, are you recruiting as much as you did when you were an assistant at Duke?

Yes, especially when you’re starting a program. I was out everyday we could be out in July, and I was in the gym from seven in the morning until midnight. Because for those kids at this level, you have to be very visible, especially when you’re starting a new program. They have to see you at their games, so that they know that you’re interested in them. And they have to see your face. A lot of people termed it “babysitting,” which we did at Duke, but at this level, I’m recruiting.

They have to see me; they have to know who I am. We’re not yet established where I can just pick and choose and not show up to people’s games. So I put myself out there right away with all these kids. I started with the highest level we could go, and if I got axed down, I’d go down lower … but we didn’t get axed too far. We missed out on a top player, but we’re in it with the next tier of kids, so I’m happy.

Final thoughts?

Going through what we went through at Duke, going to the Final Four, I saw how that experience just creates memories for a lifetime, and I just want all my players to experience that on some level. I don’t need it, I’ve been through it. But it’s great, it’s awesome. And as a coach, all I want is for my kids to have a chance to have that, I want to give them that. And I’ll do anything to have that happen for them.


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You do have a really young team this year. Only Renee Wright is a senior. And you don’t have many players who have had a lot of playing time.

Not at the college level, no. Jessica (Lawson) is only a sophomore and Krista (Foster) is a sophomore. There is such an unknown out there. At Richmond, we left when we had the twelfth best class coming in, but we also had 5 seniors returning. I was sitting there foaming at the mouth, going, we’re going to be a Sweet Sixteen team! But with this group, I have no idea where we’re going to be… We could be throwing the ball in the stands every other time down the court. You don’t have a senior point guard that has all this leadership.

Well, if the play at the SF ProCity is any indication, they’ll be OK. Let’s get back to the returning players. When I’ve talked to some of them about you, the first thing they say is how intense you are…

Yes, I am.

But the next sentence out of their mouths is, “Then off the court, I feel like I can be her friend.”

I think we all develop our own personalities; I’ve been at this for fourteen years. I’ve always lived my life as what you see is what you get. I’m a type A; I’m very competitive. I just have this drive to be successful in whatever I do. That’s a good thing and that’s a bad thing. It’s like fear of failure - that’s what it is. I know it.

At the same time, off the court, I’m just a laid-back person. I’m not an intense person off the floor, in terms of with my friends. I’m a loner. I enjoy being by myself. I’m a big reader. I love to travel. And now, I’m big with my faith … I’ve learned over time, what is my purpose on this earth? Is it to win games, or it to make an impact on people? And the only way you do that is to earn people’s trust. I just try to be as honest with people as I can. I don’t ever have a hidden agenda with anybody. What I’m trying to do is build trusting relationships. So that’s the other part.

But am I intense on the floor? Yes, I am.

Will we get to see some of this intensity? Are your practices open to the public?

No. That’s my sanctuary when I’m in there with them. A lot of parents have asked me that, but it’s just too distracting. I don’t want it to be a public display. That is my one time with them where I get to teach, I get to coach, I get to yell, I get to hug, I get to be personal with them. For me that’s very personal, private time. The product is the game, and that’s what I want people to see, but the other stuff, that’s very private.

Do you have a specific style of play, or will much depend on your personnel?

Back at Richmond, we ran the Princeton system. One of our assistants has connections with the New Jersey Nets, so we went there and got help from them. But we weren’t a very athletic team. And the team I have now has speed and athleticism, so I have things that will work for them.

Do you prefer to play with a small rotation, or do anticipate playing lots of different people?

My preference is to have an eight-player rotation. I think it brings stability, and people know what they need to do, what their goal is. If you want to play, you make sure you’re one of the eight.

Despite their losing records, the Cal teams the last few years have made some progress in terms of attendance, much of which has been attributed to their work in the community. What are your goals in these areas? I did see that your attendance was not very strong at Richmond…

For me, it’s not just about the wins and losses. For me, seeing five hundred kids coming to your games and signing autographs afterwards, that’s a big part of it. And it’s about us giving back and not living in our little bubble, which we all do as college students with our $40,000 scholarships. I tell them, this isn’t real world here, you guys. Real world is the homeless people on the street, or the kids who only get two meals a day, and one of those is at school. We’ll be a team that will do a lot of community service. I do it personally, and I think that everyone should, especially with the gifts we’ve been given, we need to give back to our community. So that’s part of who we are, that will be part of our identity.

The ticket sales and all that, Sandy has made a commitment, with the recognition of all the local kids coming in, to springboard this year in particular into the community, and to really make a huge effort. And I’ve had quite a few good meetings with marketing and I’m comfortable that they’ll do what they need to do to promote us.

You’ve lost a few players off the roster since you arrived. Seda Erdogan and Ami Soumare were lost to eligibility and injury, respectively. Confirm for me please: are all five freshmen are fully qualified?

Yes. For whatever reason, people always assume, because Levy (Gray-Lawson) and Devanei (Hampton) are like this … I mean Lexy has always been fine academically, always, so I hate the fact that people ... Anyway, Devanei just killed on her last SATs, she did great. She needs to take care of business in summer school, but she’ll be fine.

What happened with Brio Rode? Why did she leave?

I think you always are going to have a little transition – a new coach, new expectations. Everybody has to fill a role on team, whether you like it or not. The thing that I always say is, “You have to be positive, you have to work hard, and you have to go to class.” Those are the only three things that I require of anybody here. And if those three things are not happening, then the fit is not going to work. I think she made a decision that this may not be the best place for her right now based on my expectations. So she’s going to a junior college.

So all of a sudden you have all these scholarships you did not have before. Does that cause a big scramble now?

Yes, I mean the thing is, at Richmond, we could get in on some kids late when I took over the job because at the time we were considered a mid-major (I don’t think we finished there, but at the time, but anyway) so then you could get in on kids late. At this level, these kids have been recruited for two or three years. Case in point, with one top-five player that we just missed out on - how do you get in on a kid in May and expect to sign her three months later – it’s not going to happen. So I think we are behind in the ’06 class, but I’m surprised and excited about who we have gotten in on late.

I can’t say who they are, but they are nationally prominent kids who are also looking at the top 10 schools in the country. I feel good about the 4,5,6 kids that we’re in on, and one foreign kid as well. So I feel good about where we are. We might get them all; we might get none. But at least we are in their top 2, top 3, and in one her top 5. We’re in the mix there. I think we’ve done a great job with the ’07 class, getting in early and spending so much time in the office getting on board with them so that we aren’t behind the 8-ball. I think we’ve really caught up with the ‘07s - I think we’ll be in there with everybody else.

But no late signing for this year then?

No, we’re done for ’05.

At this point, do you recruit more for need in terms of positions or for best available player?

Both. But when I say best available player, I’m not just talking about their talent on the court. I also mean their character, and what kind of student they are. We’re building a program, and it goes back to what I said earlier about chemistry. The player has to be a good fit with the expectations we have.

I notice that at Richmond a couple of your kids came from the Peddie school – perhaps a bit of a pipeline. But I assume you’ll want to establish yourself in the recruiting battleground in California?

Yes California, and Bay Area in particular. You want to recruit the best California kids. By far, you want to keep California kids in California.

But again, other things have to be there too. They have to work hard. They have to be good students. They have to buy into what we’re doing. Just because they’re California kids doesn’t mean you can take them if these things aren’t in place.

But I also want to recruit the best kids in the country. If the best point guard is in New York, and the fifth best point guard is in California, then I want to go after the kid in New York. But I do want to keep the kids in California who are the best kids in the country. Yes, I definitely do. And yes, our focus will be more West Coast, but New York kids will travel, certain kids will travel. Private school kids will travel, for the experience of the education. And international kids will travel. So when you talk about the recruiting base, it’s California and the West Coast, and then you’re going to be able to hopefully handpick a few a year nationally, probably more out of New York than anywhere else.

As a head coach, are you recruiting as much as you did when you were an assistant at Duke?

Yes, especially when you’re starting a program. I was out everyday we could be out in July, and I was in the gym from seven in the morning until midnight. Because for those kids at this level, you have to be very visible, especially when you’re starting a new program. They have to see you at their games, so that they know that you’re interested in them. And they have to see your face. A lot of people termed it “babysitting,” which we did at Duke, but at this level, I’m recruiting.

They have to see me; they have to know who I am. We’re not yet established where I can just pick and choose and not show up to people’s games. So I put myself out there right away with all these kids. I started with the highest level we could go, and if I got axed down, I’d go down lower … but we didn’t get axed too far. We missed out on a top player, but we’re in it with the next tier of kids, so I’m happy.

Final thoughts?

Going through what we went through at Duke, going to the Final Four, I saw how that experience just creates memories for a lifetime, and I just want all my players to experience that on some level. I don’t need it, I’ve been through it. But it’s great, it’s awesome. And as a coach, all I want is for my kids to have a chance to have that, I want to give them that. And I’ll do anything to have that happen for them.


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