Q. After watching what UCLA did to LSU last night, what were your first thoughts?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: Well, it was obviously extremely impressive. The last time we played LSU, they were a little bit undermanned in the SEC tournament. Darrel Mitchell was hobbled with a sore ankle. Tyrus Thomas didn't play in the tournament because of his ankle injury. So I would say the LSU team that we played in the SEC tournament was definitely undermanned.
Clearly from start to finish in our league, they went 14-2. They were the SEC champions. They were the best team in our league. With Mitchell on a hobbled ankle, Tyrus Thomas not playing, we ended up winning by 15 or 16. But it was a one- or two-point game with four, five, six minutes to go. We made a couple shots and were able to get on the break and pulled away.
I think what LSU did last -- what UCLA did to LSU last night was extremely impressive.
Q. When you were at Providence, how would you have rated yourself as a defensive player? How did you come to your defensive philosophy, get the Gators to play defense like this?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: I was a defensive stopper. I shut guys down, that's what I did. Didn't shoot it very much.
My feeling, really from a defensive standpoint, every team practices what they do offensively every single day. Because they practice what they do, over the course of a season, they become very good at what they run.
My philosophy defensively is to try to take teams out of what they practice every single day, whether it be through pressing, through three-quarter court pressing, through trapping pick-and-rolls, trapping the low post, trying to do things to disrupt the course of the flow of a game.
I think what that hopefully does is creates transition opportunities for us, creates maybe steals to get out into transition. But more than anything else, my feeling, the way I like to do it, is to try to disrupt the flow of what you're doing on offense.
Q. Can you recount the conversation or two that you had with Coach Pitino back when he was trying to dissuade you from taking this job, also what you thought the one or two big projects were going to be to turn Florida into something.
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: Well, Coach Pitino was still at Kentucky at the time. When Florida had called, I spoke to him and asked him what he thought. He told me, Billy, it's not a good situation, you don't need to do that. At the time Jayson Williams was at Marshall with me. We had won our side. We had the majority of our players returning. We had a good team. We played Kentucky that year. I think Coach Pitino thought in '94 when Florida went to the Final Four, what was in the program at that time, that maybe the expectations were a little bit unrealistic in terms of where the program was at. He just felt like it was going to take a complete overhaul to turn that around, and I would be better off staying with a team that at Marshall was probably going to have a good year.
Probably what changed my mind more so than anything else was when I met with Jeremy Foley. In that meeting, it was very, very clear that he understood where things were at and he understood what needed to happen to try to turn the program. I think Lon Kruger came in at a time that was very difficult because there was some problems there. I think he really restored the credibility and he took a team to the Final Four and really changed the face of Florida basketball.
Right before he left, there were some downtimes after the Final Four. I think after speaking to Coach Pitino, he had a chance to talk to Jeremy. I just told him that I really felt in speaking to Jeremy that administratively there was going to be a very, very strong commitment to basketball, there was going to be a strong commitment to try to get basketball going, and that he understood exactly where the program was at and what needed to be done. That was probably the most comforting thing to me.
I think sometimes when you're in a situation like that, you talk to an administrator, all of a sudden the feeling is Hey, listen, we have the team to go right back to the Final Four, this is great. It wasn't that type of feel. I think Jeremy really felt like football gets a lot of publicity, exposure, not only in our school, but in the state. I think Jeremy's goal and vision was why can't football and basketball and baseball and women's volleyball, why can't everybody do well?
I think one thing all the coaches at Florida would say is that Jeremy in relationship to their sport tries to give everybody the necessary means to do the best job they can competing in the sport they're playing in.
Q. Anthony Grant, what has he meant to your program and to you? Why isn't he maybe a head coach yet?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: Why isn't he? Anthony is one of my closest friends in life. He's been with me from day one when I took the job at Marshall when I was 27 years old. He has done a terrific job recruiting, coaching, what he stands for, what his values are.
But I also think Anthony is a very simplistic is probably not the right word, but he's very, very grounded. I think when sometimes guys are assistant coaches for a long period of time, they have an itch that they want to go be a head coach, they take any job. I think Anthony has had several opportunities and will continue to, but I think for Anthony, having four children and being in Gainesville for 10 years now, a big part of him, he always says it, it's got to be an unbelievable situation for me to ever leave. It's not like my ego is such that I got to be a head coach. So the first job that comes available that they're interested in me, that I'm just going to leave. That's just kind of the way he is.
I've done nothing by try to help Anthony in that area. But he to me is as good as there is in the business at what he does. He's terrific. He's had some interests, but at the same time I think he's felt the situation he has at Florida is just where he wants to be right now.
Q. Could you talk about what you've seen in Ben Howland's defense, just how unusual that is for a school like UCLA to play that Big East style of gritty defense.
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: Well, I think UCLA has won a lot of national championships. I don't think you win national championships without playing defense. I'm sure Coach Wooden's teams played very good defense as well.
They are very, very disciplined with the way they play defense. They help each other extremely well. They like to take you out of what you want to do. They're very, very physical. They have a great ability to be very physical, body you, take you off cuts. The biggest thing to me that I love about their defense is they're a great help team. They really rotate to each other. They really help each other. I think one of the big keys in defense is a lot of times guys are afraid to leave their man and give help because they're worried about the next guy rotating to their man. He certainly has got them rotating and helping one another.
I think that they'll be as good of a defensive team tomorrow night that we've played all year. They do an outstanding job.
You hear people talk all the time that it's East Coast to West Coast. It's almost I take it as like the West Coast kids don't want to play defense. I don't know if I necessarily agree with that.
I think what he has done is taken his style, his beliefs from Pittsburgh and now has transformed it into UCLA. But I think the big thing in any system or any style, there's a lot of ways to skin a cat, a lot of ways to play. I think really what it comes down to as a head coach is what your belief is in it, how strongly you believe in what you do, and that belief has to go through to the players so the players see this is the way we're going to play because you have a belief in it. That to me is the most important thing. It's very clear his beliefs and the way the game needs to be played on the defensive end of the floor, he has great belief in it. I think his team has great belief in it.
Q. I know you want to win for the kids, the program, the school. Roy Williams cried when he won last year. What will it mean to you to win this thing? You played here, you lost here.
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: I really mean this. This is not about me. That's not my job. My job is to try to coach and teach these guys of what it takes to be successful on the court, what it is to be part of a team, what it is to sacrifice. They're going to leave here someday. I said this. You know, my most important thing to me from a coaching perspective is going to be how these guys talk about me as a human being and what I've been able to teach them in terms of their life so that when they're a parent, they're a husband, a coworker with somebody, they can reflect back at their time at Florida and say that, you know, I've helped them in that area.
I think in coaching, and I also think in life, I feel like my main responsibility is to serve. My responsibility is to serve the University of Florida, my responsibility is to serve these kids, the assistant coaches in the program. I'll be excited if that happens tomorrow night, but I'm not going to be, wow, this is great for me.
I really believe in life if you help people, you do a good job of helping people, you get rewarded 10 fold for what you do. I never want our team ever to feel like it's about me because I think that would be totally selfish.
I'm a part of it, and I'll be very, very happy that I was privileged to be a part of it and coach these group of kids. But for me to sit there and say I'm satisfied or this is great, this is great for Billy Donovan, I just -- that's not what it's about for me, it really isn't.
Q. Al, you guys have been dealing the last three weekends with the sense of finality, that if you lose it's over. Now you know it's finality. Do you approach it differently at all?
AL HORFORD: You know, we're going to do the same things we've been doing all year long, watch film on 'em, practice regular and, you know, we're trying to keep everything the same. We're not trying to change anything.
Q. How much of what you believe in today has its roots when you were a player at Providence? Do you think there's such a thing as a Big East mentality or style that might be on display tomorrow night because of Howland's background at Pittsburgh?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: The first part of the question was?
Q. How much of what your coaching philosophy was based on what you went through as a player?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: I think a lot of it is. In particular, on the offensive end of the floor because I wasn't the most athletic guy so I try to put our guys in situations and create extra passing and ball movement and unselfish and try to score through our team. I think a lot of that.
But also, you know, playing for Coach Pitino, working with him, he's always said that the system, you should take it, tweak it, try to make it better. But there's no question I think any coach who's played the game, a lot of their philosophies come out of what they've experienced as a player.
I do believe there are different styles of play throughout the country. Unlike the NBA, who has "a league of NBA officials," that you see everybody, the PAC-10 has their set of officials, the Big East has their set of officials, the SEC has their set of officials. I would say just nationally, I think we're all trying to get under one umbrella.
We've had in this tournament officials outside the SEC that I think have done a terrific job. It's been good. This comment is not good nor bad. I think in different parts of the country, the games are officiated a little bit differently. I think what everybody is trying to do is get everything under one umbrella.
Is the Big East more physical than the ACC? Is the Big 12 more physical than the SEC? I don't know. We're playing against a team, regardless if it's Pittsburgh, UCLA, Ben has been at both places, I think it's his style, his system, what he believes in in that he's carrying on. I think if Ben was to leave there, go somewhere to the Midwest, I think he should still carry his style of play and how he feels the game should be played to the next place he went to.
Q. Corey, for the last game, you sort of cast your team as the bad guys trying to ruin the Cinderella story. You said you seemed to enjoy the role. What is the role you envision your team in for this game and why do you see it that way?
COREY BREWER: It's the same as it's been all year. Nobody's ever really given us a chance to win the national championship. Now we're in the championship game. We're just going out there, we're going to play our style of play, and we're hopefully going to get a victory.
Q. Jordan Farmar has said he was going to Florida until Ben Howland -- until he met with Ben Howland at the last minute. Did you think you were confident you were going to get him? What did you see in him then as a recruit? How do you feel he has developed?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: He's really made a poor choice, didn't he (smiling)?
No, I'm happy for Jordan. He's in a great situation. He's gotten a lot better as a basketball player, as I knew he would. He's a hard-working kid. Jordan never told me that he was coming to Florida. Although he did visit, I felt like we had a good visit on our campus, we did spend time recruiting him. I think at that time UCLA was probably in a transition period a little bit.
I think when you're from out west, UCLA represents certainly a whole lot in the state of California, but nationally, UCLA program with Coach Wooden, the coaches that have been there after, the success of the program, what it means, I think with Ben probably coming in there and getting a chance to develop a relationship with Jordan, where his vision was at UCLA, how he thought he -- where he thought he was going to take the program, how Jordan would fit in, it probably for him felt like, hey, listen, that's great.
I always think it's very, very difficult for a young man to come all the way across the coast. It's hard. Especially when you have programs that are out west as an Arizona, a Stanford, UCLA, very, very good programs.
I think Jordan liked the University of Florida a lot. But at the same point, maybe with what Ben was able to talk to him about after he got the job, maybe made him feel a little bit more comfortable, staying close to home to play.
Q. You talked a lot about being a football school or being at a football school. With two Final Fours in six years, a national title, do you think basketball won't be so much of an afterthought maybe like in the fall, that maybe this would put you guys on almost equal footing with that program?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: I don't know if I agree with that. I don't think that basketball has ever been an afterthought, at least since I've been here. There's no question, I've said this many times, in the southeast, in terms of fan enthusiasm and fan excitement, it is for football. In the states of Kentucky and Indiana, the fanfare and enthusiasm is for basketball. I understand that. Billy Donovan is not changing that culture.
I've said this a lot. The thing that's bigger than football for a Florida fan is the University of Florida. There's more passion for the University of Florida than any other sport. People love the University of Florida that are associated with it.
I think just based on what we've been able to do over the last 10 years as a program, I'm not sitting there saying that basketball is more important than football or trying to get into a pecking order. But I think our program has gotten respect. I think our program from where it was in terms of a lot of pockets of success, nothing sustained, the way our home court is in terms of the environment these guys have a chance to play in, I would say that our program has very good respect.
I don't feel that our program at all is ever an afterthought. I think people have followed us all the way through and have been very, very supportive. They'll do the same thing with baseball starting up after our season is over with. I don't feel that way personally.
Q. You have some kids here with some very famous dads. Generally speaking, they claim there's not added pressure. Is that possible? I was wondering how you see it.
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: No, I don't think there's added pressure on them. I think that all these guys love their family, love their parents, appreciate and respect. But I also think there's a part of them that they want to put their own footprints in life, carve their own niche just as their parents have done. That's not any slight or anything else, they're jealous. They love their parents to death. Their parents have been great role models and have done a great job raising them. Their parents have tried to provide the same opportunity for these guys that maybe their families have provided.
For them, I don't think there's any added pressure at all. If anything, I think it's a motivating factor that they see their parents in that light and they see what can be achieved and they've taken probably the knowledge and experience that they've had as a professional athlete and been able to hand it down to them.
But I think maybe there's pressure when you're five, six, seven, eight years old, you're looking to kind of create your own identity. Oh, that's Sidney Green's son. I'm sure for most of his life it's been Sidney Green's son, Yannick Noah's son, Tito Horford's son. Now that's Joakim Noah, that's Taurean Green. By the way, their dad is this person. I think they're trying to create their own footprints in life. I think their parents want them to do that.
Q. For Sidney Green's son and Corey, Joakim plays with a lot of emotion, enthusiasm. The first time you started playing with him, when you saw that, what was your response to it and has there ever been one time where he's gotten so emotional that it kind of stunned you for a second?
TAUREAN GREEN: He's an emotional guy. He's such a great competitor. He always wants to win. I remember in one of the practices last year, he got upset a little bit, threw the ball at the wall or something. I forgot what happened.
No, it's not because he's frustrated. It's just because he wants to win. Every time he goes out and competes, we know what we're going to get out of him emotionally.
COREY BREWER: He's just a fun guy to play with because he brings it every night. He has all the energy. He's going to play the same way no matter what. He's just going to bring it every night. I just love playing with him.
Q. The players who haven't had much to say so far, what do the letters and the name of UCLA actually mean to you? Their greatest success came before you guys were even born. You're from another generation. How do you look at their program?
JOAKIM NOAH: Well, I know that they have great tradition, they had a lot of great players go through that program. But I don't think that helps you win the game tomorrow. So right now it's not about tradition, it's about playing basketball, playing the sport that we've been playing since we were little kids, just enjoying playing, enjoying every moment, enjoy playing on the big stage.
LEE HUMPHREY: Very aware of UCLA's history. ESPN Classic, all the great players that they've had at the school. I think they've got a lot of really good players now, very talented team. Should be a fun game tomorrow.
Q. Joakim, you talked a few weeks ago about how this team may be remembered, the importance of winning a championship. Can you explain that thought now that you're here? How strongly do you feel you need to win tomorrow to be talked about in the future the way you want to be talked about?
JOAKIM NOAH: I don't think it's about that. Right now we're not really thinking about how people are going to remember us. It's about just playing possession by possession, it's really seizing the moment. Coach always tells us not to worry about what happened in the past; what's going to happen in the future, especially when you're playing in a position like this in the Final Four. I mean, in the championship game, there's no feeling like it. It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
We're just soaking it in, enjoying every moment. At the end of the day, it's all about playing basketball. That's what we love to do.
Q. How important do you think UCLA's tradition and history is as far as maintaining that program, luring recruits? How important is building tradition for you at your school? Would winning a national championship go a long way toward establishing that tradition?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: It's obviously very difficult to win a national championship, to be able to win six games. When you look at UCLA's program, I'm much older than these guys, that I understand what UCLA basketball represents. But I also think, and I don't know the last time they won a national championship, I know when Jim Harrick was there, but I'm not so sure when it was before that. I never felt like UCLA has ever struggled in recruiting because they're not winning national championship after national championship after national championship.
I just think what's happened in college basketball, you've got Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA. Those programs in terms of their tradition I don't think have really struggled or ever struggled in recruiting. They've been able to do a fabulous job. We realize that, I think like Joakim said, the tradition doesn't have anything to do with tomorrow night, but I think it probably has something to do to their players, because their players understand what they're representing in terms of what UCLA represents.
A lot of times it's the past players that they know are watching them that have a level of expectation of the way they're supposed to perform. I think that's a good thing for a program.
That's what we're trying to build here at Florida. I hope that there's someday, if I'm here long enough, that guys will come back and look at these guys and say, you know what, I need to go out and play well, because Joakim Noah and Al Horford and Corey Brewer, Taurean Green, Lee Humphrey, they play with great passion. Those guys are watching me, with them watching me there's a level I have to uphold. That's what we're trying to create. We don't have that right now in terms of we've been doing it long enough.
UCLA has been going I don't know for I don't know how many years. Kentucky has been going...
It has to start somewhere. Hopefully that's something that will be carried on. That's what we're trying to build at Florida. It's never been done. It hasn't been sustained.
UCLA, Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke, that's been sustained for so, so long. You know, the past tradition doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the game, but I'm sure there's a level of expectation that the players feel they have to uphold.
Q. With a team that early in the season was perceived as being maybe a year away, what have been a few or maybe the biggest keys to going this far?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: Well, just the main piece has been their willingness to remain extremely unselfish, their ability not to embrace success. I think that's the hardest thing that happens to a team is, when you get to be 17-0, you can think it's easy or that you got it all figured out. They really remained very humble. They wanted to get better.
I think the losses that we went through this year, I've said this many times, have helped our basketball team understand how to get beat. We were able to make corrections. I would say besides the passion, the unselfishness, playing hard, they're a very, very attentive group that care about each other a great deal, want to be coached, want information and want to get better.
I think that's the key. Although they're young in terms of their year in class, they're a little bit older mentally in terms of what they've got to zero in and focus in on. That's been a bit surprising to me because I didn't know what to expect. I felt like we'd play unselfish, we'd play hard, and they'd give me everything they had night in and night out. But I didn't know when the experience factor would kick in, would we be able to overcome that.
Al started but was pretty much a defender, rebounder for us. Corey was the same thing, perimeter defender, slasher. Corey was our leading scorer coming back from last year's name, scoring seven points a game. There was a lot of uncertainty. These guys have shown when you play together as a team what can be accomplished.
So you talk about UCLA's tradition. I'm hoping teams that continue to come up, this will be a reflection of what a group of guys, a collection of guys, can do together.
THE MODERATOR: We'll let the five starters go to the breakout rooms. We'll continue with questions for Coach Donovan.
Q. Two years after the Manhattan loss, you outlined what sounded like a new vision for the program. Did you know what you had coming in with that class or did you think it was time to get tougher, to have a little bit different personality in the program?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: Uhm, that team there a couple years ago, and I'd say even the year before that, we kind of came limping into the NCAA tournament. Two years ago when we lost to Manhattan in the NCAA tournament, I think it was only the second time maybe in school history in recent time that Florida had been to an SEC championship game. Walsh was hurt. We were banged up. That's not making excuses. I just didn't like the passion we played with in that tournament.
I think the landscape of college basketball continues to change because of the NBA draft. What you're seeing right now is with the 19-year-old age limit, so many kids leaving early, you've got to do a great job evaluating I think between those kids maybe in the top 25 to 100 'cause there's so much parity.
Really to me what changes a player from being different from another player is their personality, their makeup and who they are. With the way recruiting is set up now in the NCAA, we don't have enough access on the phone, in person, to get those questions answered. A lot of times you think you're getting one thing and you realize what you're getting is something else. It's not the young man's fault, it's not the coach's fault; it's a lack of time.
I look at what NBA teams do in terms of the background research they do before they draft guys, all the work they do, the amount of time they do, they bring them in, psychologically test them, talk to them, ask them questions, work them out, and they still make mistakes on guys sometimes.
How can you expect college coaches to sit there and look at a guy and say, you know what, we're going to recruit him.
So much of it right now has nothing to do with the talent level, it has so much to do with their makeup, what they're about. If you have a great player has a great level of unselfishness and work ethic, he's going to overachieve and go beyond where he thought he could go. If you have a guy that's talented but that's totally into himself, never had to be unselfish a day in his life, it's really hard to change that mentality.
So when I say that I went about changing recruiting, my feeling in changing the recruiting was much, much more in terms of getting guys that were going to be in our program for several years so we could have some injury, junior senior classes. It's been so long since we've had three or four guys in a junior or a senior class. We've always had a young people.
Part of it has been because our program has been successful and some of the kids inside our program have been successful and they've had opportunities outside. But we have this reputation, all these McDonald's All-American, we have one on our team. It's not the case. I think we got a lot of good kids that have been unselfish and have worked hard and they've gotten better.
Green has gotten better, Horford, Noah, Humphrey has gotten better. Our whole team continues to get better because they have the attitude that allows you as a person, a coach, to try to help them get to the next level as a player and a person.
Q. What did you think of Luc Richard last night? Did you see him much in high school?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: Yes, I did. Came from a great high school program at Montverde with Kevin Sutton. Really liked him a lot as a player. I wasn't sure if he was exactly what we needed at that time during the recruiting process, but really liked him a lot. Certainly he made a great decision for himself. I think he's had a huge impact on UCLA's program. He has done a lot of different things. I think he complements his teammates very well. His teammates complement him very well. I'm happy for him 'cause he's a very nice kid.
Q. Lee had a big night last night. Could you talk about how confident you are when he's got the ball behind the arc, and also what are you expecting out of UCLA as far as their perimeter defense, stopping the three-pointer?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: One of the worst feelings you can have as a coach is when you see a guy rise up and take a three-point shot and know it's got no chance of going in. That is not a good feeling.
The one thing about Lee is when he lets it go, you feel that it's got a pretty good chance of going in. I'm sure UCLA is very conscious of Lee, the way he has shot the basketball. Again, they're a very good defensive team. I don't think they're going to do anything, let's say scheme-wise, we're going to change our defensive principles and what we've done up to this point in time to shut him down. But there's ways to track him, eye him, to make sure he doesn't get off very many clean looks.
Lee is one of those guys that's patient. He's not a -- force a lot of shots. He gets the shots in within the framework of our offense. Like I said last night, our guys do a pretty good job of finding him in transition, when the ball gets inside to out. Lee does a pretty good job of finding ways to get into some open areas.
Q. Does the fact that you've been here for a Monday night game help you in any way? Was there anything different going from Saturday to Monday in 2000 that can you take and apply to this year?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: Well, I think the first thing is you realize how long of a time it is from last night's game all the way to Monday night. It's a long time. Feels like a week.
With that being said, in a lot of ways it's a very, very short time. After we're done with media, we got to go on the court and practice. We've been up watching film. We've gotten to this point as a basketball team because of what we've been able to do up to this point in time. But you still have to scout, you have to prepare, you have to do different things. But at the same point there's a fine line when you have a one-day prep situation like you do where you don't want your guys maybe overthinking so much, but you don't want your guys being in a situation where they don't know some key points.
Maybe being here in 2000, I felt like the 2000 team, we played against Michigan State that was there before, their kids were, and Tom Izzo was there before. They were clearly the best team. I don't know if we would have played them again if the outcome would have been any different. They were just a better team than us at that game. We were a good team. I don't think anybody expected that team to get to the national championship game.
So I think the big thing right now is just to try to make sure our guys get rest, narrow their focus, try to give them some things that they can take into the game, get prepared and ready to play tomorrow night.
Q. You've talked about how much you like this team, the way they play within the team structure. Is it challenging having a guy like Joakim who is so individual, also emotional? Have you had to talk to him about using that emotion positively?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: Well, I would say personality-wise he and I are a lot alike. I'm almost scared to say something like that publicly. I think we both share great passion for the game. I think we both have energy. I think we're both competitive.
I can relate to him very well. I think Taurean made a very good point. There's times where he shows his emotion, and sometimes it's not in a good way. But it's not that he's frustrated. He just wants to win.
He is somewhat of a free spirit. When I say "free spirit," he's not a guy that's into himself or being individualized or -- he wears his hair in a ponytail. Some people that would bother. That doesn't bother me. He's also a guy that doesn't have a lot of tattoos on himself either. He's an easy guy to coach because he cares so much. When you got somebody that cares about something so much, in my position, I can help him channel his emotions the right way.
He's gotten so much better from his freshman year to now being able to channel that. Sometimes he gets too emotional, too hyped up, that you got to get him to channel it right the right way.
For me he's been an easy guy to coach because I think I'm passionate also, and I understand how it feels to be passionate about, therefore I can relate to him and help him.
But he doesn't do anything individually that I would say draws crazy attention to himself where you feel like this guy, it's all about him. I think when you hear him talk, his comments are always about the team, it's about winning, it's about playing together, it's about playing hard. He never really talks much about what he wants. He's about as unselfish of a kid and caring of a kid as I've been around.
The thing I respect about him so much is I work him out in individual instruction. He'll thank me like four and five times walking off the floor. Some guys go through an individual instruction, they leave. I don't expect to be thanked. That's the way he is. He comes to my house, all of our guys do, but he comes out, he gives my wife a hug and says, "Thanks for dinner." He sees my kids. He gives them a hug. He takes time for them.
Those are the things to me that are most important about him, is he has a genuine passion for his life, the game of basketball and people. He really likes people and he respects people.
Q. When you did recruit Noah, did you think as much or more about his defensive potential for you as his offensive potential? With regard to losing players early to the NBA or never getting them at all, has there ever been any serious discussion with you and your peers, have you ever entertained the thought of trying a strategy of under-recruiting in the hopes of accumulating one of these three-and four-year teams?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: I think it's a great question, something that we've talked about a lot. To the first question, Joakim, when I saw him in high school, was not a great athlete in terms of off the floor. He was a fabulous straight-ahead runner. He was good on his feet. You could see that his size and physicality at times were a disadvantage to him that didn't really allow him to block shots because guys would take the ball to his body and would neutralize him.
He's gotten considerably stronger from high school, which has allowed him to hold his position and effect shots a little bit more. I think that's an area where I didn't know what kind of shot blocker he would be. He's always been a terrific runner. He's a guy that plays to complete exhaustion. He has a great threshold to continually run through fatigue. A lot of guys sometimes when they get tired in the course of the game, they try to take a play off, relax. Not him. He plays all the way a hundred percent full throttle.
I think the recruiting part is exactly what we're all trying to do now. The complexion in college basketball has changed so much. For a while there, 10 years ago, everybody talked about, if you really want to win at the college level, you have to have two or three pros on your team. I'm not so sure that's the case any more. I think exactly what you're talking about, you know some of those high school kids out there that are destined for the NBA. It's hard not to have one foot in college and one foot on the NBA.
Also, I think evaluating. If there was one thing I'd like to see the NCAA change, I would love to see a change where we as coaches can get back on the road and have more contact with kids because we need to get to know them. We talk about kids transferring and kids making poor decisions. The reason kids make poor decisions and coaches make poor decisions, we're making decisions with not enough information on who we're recruiting.
For me during the course of the season, it's hard for head coaches to get out. We're practicing every day. Maybe there's a local kid you can go see. We have to be able to have more access in terms of asking them questions about their makeup and who they are, what they want to become. Those are the hard things. I really believe what allows a kid -- I'll give you an example. Noah is an example of it. Taurean Green is an example of it. I think Luc Richard is an example of it. These weren't McDonald's All-Americans. There were a lot of kids coming out of high school that were thought of a lot higher than those kids. But it's Luc Richard's mentality that allows him to be an effective, really good player for UCLA. It's Noah's passion and unselfishness that allows him to be a good player.
You can take guys with the same exact athletic ability and talent, but if they don't have the right makeup in terms of being part of a team, they never reach their potential.
Q. Can you talk about defending UCLA's quickness, their guards, having faced Villanova, does that help you in preparation?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: They have some similarities to Villanova. But I would say they're much of a bigger team than Villanova. Villanova didn't have a lot of depth in their front court. They were going to play Cunningham, Fraser, and I forget, I don't remember the other guy's name.
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: Clark. There was one more. Sheridan. Those were the three bigs, rotate those three bigs, sometimes going with guards. UCLA has a lot more size, length, shot-blocking ability. They're a much, much I would say deeper team than Villanova is. I don't know all the stories, but I know Ben went through a lot of injuries throughout the course of the season, had some guys out. I felt like when we lost Humphrey and Brewer, I was hopeful that would make our team better because other guys would have an opportunity to step up.
I would say probably the same has happened for UCLA. Some of those kids that had to step into some key roles while some guys were injured probably has enabled those guys to have some confidence.
But their quickness and speed is without question on par with Villanova. But I would say they're a much, much longer and deeper team than Villanova.
Q. "Afterthought" is the wrong word. I guess where I'm coming from is back-to-back losses in early October this year, there's just a malaise among Florida fans. Do you think a national championship team would give them something to focus on that's coming up? How daunting was the task to come to Florida and get this going?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: The beginning part of the question, I don't really understand what you're saying.
Q. The beginning of October.
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: This season?
Q. They lost back-to-back games. I don't think anybody was sitting there saying, "At least basketball is coming along."
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: The culture at Florida, they're going to go through seasons. Right now football during the month of October is in the heat of their season. Rightfully so. All of our fans' focus should be on football. They should really focus on our football team and support them.
We're starting off right now. I don't think it would be fair, if we happen to win a national championship, I don't think in the middle of October in Gainesville, Florida, people are saying, "Hey, listen, the Gators are playing against Steve Spurrier and the Gamecocks."
"Who cares about that. The hoop team is starting practice tomorrow. Let's run over there and find out what's going on." That's not happening, ever.
When the football season ends, that first week in January, I would say from January to March, we have great focus and attention, and people support us. I think it's the same thing for Pat McMahon our baseball coach. Once our season ends Monday night, all the shift and focus is going towards baseball, and it should go towards that.
But I don't think the focus in the middle of football season is going to be shifted because Florida won a national championship, who cares what's going on in football. I just don't think that's going to happen. And that's okay. I would rather have our fans put all their energy and effort towards supporting the football program during those months.
Q. How daunting was that? I didn't mean like just focusing on basketball instead of football like at some schools. Spring football practice is going on right now, right?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: Right.
Q. There's going to be focusing on that more than baseball. They're crazy about football in Gainesville. How daunting was that?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: When you say "daunting," what do you mean?
Q. You took over a basketball program at a football school, and now Florida probably along with maybe Texas, and I can't even think of another if you win tomorrow night, is going to be like the best of both worlds kind of thing, if you know what I mean.
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: I think we have the best of both worlds right now. What I mean by that is this program over the last 10 years I think has made strides to compete nationally, to be mentioned in the breath of programs that are in the top 15 in the country. We do have a unique situation because football and basketball can coexist.
I never really look at it that way, I guess. It's hard for me. I said this before, you got a different mentality at Florida. If I'm concerned about that, I'm at the wrong school. What I mean by that is everything is important to the administration. The administration is totally consumed with having the best overall athletics program in the country. If my mentality or agenda is, Jeremy, that's great, but I need to know that the fans and you and the administration, basketball's got to be No. 1 here, I'm at the wrong place.
I think when the football team is playing in a Bowl game, playing on national TV, that helps basketball. It's the University of Florida being mentioned. I think when the baseball team played against Texas last year for a national championship, it's the University of Florida. That helps us.
I realize that I'm preaching to these guys all the time about being part of a team. Billy Donovan is part of a team at Florida, too. I'm not going to get wrapped up into wanting more attention or feeling like we should get more attention or any of that. I'm part of a team and I root for all the sports at Florida because I want them to do well because I think that helps our program.
Q. With recruiting, sometimes do kids get labeled a McDonald's All-Americans just because North Carolina or Duke is recruiting them and maybe not necessarily how good they are? Because UCLA and you are doing so well this year, without tons of McDonald's All-Americans, do you think coaches will take a closer look at how they recruit?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: I don't know if kids or the committee who pick those teams say, okay, this guy signed at North Carolina, he must be really good, let's put him on the All-American team. This guy signed at Kansas, he must be good. I don't know if that happens.
Like anything else, there are kids that go through high school that are probably underrated, under-appreciated, under-valued. There are probably some kids that are overhyped, overpublicized, not as good as people thought they were. I think it happens everywhere.
You try to recruit those kids that have that mentality and a level of talent that can really, really help your team, I think that's what you're looking to try to do.
Q. Talk about growing up in Rockfield Center, the effect that your dad and Coach Morris had on you. Was your dad a good CYO coach?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: He was a great coach because I got all the shots (smiling).
No, you know, that's the one thing that I probably appreciate and respect more about my dad than anything else, is I think sometimes parents, and I see it all the time sometimes, when something goes wrong for their child, it's the coach's fault, it's never the kid's fault. I really went through an emotional rollercoaster ride as a player, both in high school and college. My first two years in high school, I didn't play on the varsity, didn't play a whole lot. My junior year I had a chance to play a lot more. I didn't have one scholarship offer in the early signing period of my senior year. I think it was because of a Frank Morris and even my father. My father's thing was, bottom line, the coach wants to win. You're not playing because you're not good enough.
I think that was the reality of it. One of two things: either go out and get to the park and get better as a player or you're not going to play. It's on you. I think the same thing happened at Providence. When Joe Mullaney left, I was at a crossroads where I was running from my problem. I think probably my dad and Coach Pitino forced me to deal with my issue myself, why I wasn't playing. I was 190 pounds, I was way overweight. I didn't work hard enough on my game. I wanted to be given something that I was not deserving of.
Really what it came down to, is are you willing to work or not? Here is what you need to do. If you're not willing to do it, don't expect to play. I never had a father that thought I was the best thing since sliced bread. He was always very up front, very honest, very, very real. I think through his experience as a player playing at Boston College helped me to understand what I had to do to become a better player. That was extremely helpful.
I think Frank Morris was as hard on me as any coach that's ever coached me. I think it's those people now looking back on it that probably have moulded and shaped me along with Coach Pitino in terms of understanding work ethic, in terms of taking responsibility and accountability for who you are, instead of pointing fingers and making excuses.
Q. When did the coaching bug sink its teeth in for good? What's the biggest difference in you from the guy who began at Marshall and the one sitting here today?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: Well, I would say I think as a player you're all very, very naive. I envisioned myself playing basketball 10 years after college. I don't necessarily mean in the NBA. Even if it was overseas, I just wanted to play. Probably one of the more difficult things I went through trying to latch on to an NBA team, at best I was going to be an 11th, 12th man, a guy that got cut, a CBA traveler.
I think probably at 24 years old I realized that, you know what, living in Rapid City, South Dakota, in the Days Inn hotel, living in Casper, Wyoming, another Days Inn hotel. It's great to try to get to the NBA. I gave the NBA a two-year legitimate shot in my mind, that I needed to get that out of my system as a player.
Going through those things, it's hard when something like that comes to an end because it's almost like, what do I do with myself right now? I've lived in a gym for 10, 12 years, most of my life, just playing. Now I got to do something else.
I think probably the best thing that helped me was going out and looking for a real job. Once I went out and looked for a real job, worked on Wall Street for six months, I knew right then and there, this is not what I want to do. That experience probably helped me realize that I wanted to get into coaching. I felt like I had a lot of offer. I felt like I went through a lot as a player. I had a chance to touch a couple different levels, I experienced some different things. I thought I could give back.
That's one of the things, people talk about winning a national championship. I don't remember Coach Pitino saying, okay, he brought me to the Final Four or he helped me. I look at all the other things he taught me that were helpful in my life. If we were fortunate enough to win tomorrow night, it's over. Tuesday morning, it's gone, on to the next thing. That's what you realize in life. I don't want my life to be defined by a national championship. I hoping I'm a better father and a husband and a better person to people.
Listen, the national championship would be great. But to me I thought Tom Brady's comments were very interesting on 60 Minutes he made the comment he won three Super Bowls and he said, "Is that all there is?" I think there's so much more to life than that.
Don't get me wrong. I want to win as bad as anybody tomorrow. Our kids want to win as bad as anybody tomorrow. I think it's those times back then when I was growing up, going through some of those experiences made me realize how much I love the game, how much I felt like I could help people with the game and with life.
Q. Connecticut, North Carolina, the last two national championships, both great running teams, scoring teams. You press, you lead the nation in field goal percentage. Can you talk about why you play the way you play, if it helps you to get where you are right now?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: I play that way because, first of all, I believe in it. I like to see the game played in transition. I like to see the ball movement. I like player movement. I like extra passing. I like guys utilizing the game of basketball in terms of trying to teach them how to play the right way.
Believe it or not, our style of play is very, very hard to coach because there is time that I have to give up a level of control and trust. I don't call a play every single time. I try to let our guys make plays. In doing that, you have to work very hard in practice to be able to do that. But I also think the spontaneity, the creativity of playing that way, getting them to understand extra pass, ball movement, open man, I think is a very, very difficult way to guard.
For me as a player, I was a guy at six feet that if the game got caught in halfcourt, I wasn't getting a shot off Georgetown, Villanova, those teams. I was able to be more of an effective player with the game being played in transition.
Also I think, too, in this tournament, you have to be able to play different ways because there's sometimes you cannot force your style on somebody. You may have to play halfcourt. The SEC championship game, we ended up winning the game 49-47. We have a style and a system and things that we want to do. But you also have to understand that you got to be able to -- if you're not making shots, you got to be able to defend and rebound, hold teams down to a low shooting percentage.
But a lot of probably what I believe in is what I went through as a player, being around Coach Pitino.
Q. Is there more of a sense of urgency these days when you get this far? You never know which kids are going to leave. You're not necessarily building to anything. Why are you so much better than everybody thought in pre-season?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: The first reason we're probably better is when you lose your three leading scorers on paper everybody says, how can they be any better. I think that was the first thing.
Also we had a bunch of guys returning and coming back that really were unproven, nobody knew about. Nobody had really seen them play a whole lot.
We're probably a basketball team that's maybe a little bit more balanced. We've got several guys that can score. We've got guys that can defend and rebound and block shots. We're a team that can play in transition. I think we can guard in the halfcourt. These kids have really -- understand really the importance of being unselfish, being part of a team.
Q. When a kid Abukar transfers out, have you kept up with him? What do you say to a kid like that? Do you take it individual by individual when a kid wants to leave?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: I've got great respect for Mohamed. I always appreciated how hard he worked while he was at Florida. As a matter of fact, I had a chance to email his coach back and forth last week a couple times because there was a great article about Mohamed, the year he had. I think the person in the article was talking about what did he think about Florida reaching the Final Four. Just the comments Mohamed made about our program, myself, the guys on the team was very nice.
Sometimes for these kids it really comes down to one thing. The most important thing for all these kids is playing time. I think some kids will accept not playing as a freshman if they can see a light. I think for Mohamed, he was saying, where am I going to fit in and play? I would have loved for Mohamed to stay. I think he could have continued to develop into a very good player.
It wasn't a conflict of he and I of personalities. It was more of an issue he wanted to play more. Each kid only has four years to play in college. I think he should have the right to be able to leave if he feels another opportunity out there better for him. It's worked out very well for him. He did a great job at San Diego State, had a great year, helped them out tremendously. I'm happy for him as a person and kid because he deserves to have a good college experience being on the floor. I think hopefully maybe his time at Florida, maybe I helped prepare him for that. I don't know. Maybe that helped.
Q. This weekend used to be dominated by seniors, juniors. Why are they able to play so well so early? Does it make the situation a little more volatile with a young team?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: It always makes it volatile. You bring up a good point. There are other teams out there in the country that are young. I think that certain young kids can handle the role that they're placed into maybe better than some other young kids. It doesn't mean these young kids that haven't been able to do it will not in time become great players. Sometimes it takes people a little longer to do things. There's other people that figure it out early on, there's other people it takes a little longer to figure it out.
The two teams right now are very young. They've got a couple seniors and a couple older guys. We're probably about as youthful as anybody on a Monday night in the last several years.
Q. (No microphone.)
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: Why can they? I think a lot of it goes back to their mentality and makeup, them being able to narrow focus. There's so many distractions when you go through something for the first time. Everybody says, are you enjoying it? Are the guys enjoying it? I don't know if they're enjoying it. We're having fun with it right now. I think they know they have to play games. They're having fun playing.
We're not out downtown Indianapolis going to dinner, we're going to go do this, do that. We're trying to get prepared. We're trying to get our rest. Some guys can really narrow the focus and the stage, and other guys it takes a little bit longer. I don't know necessarily what the reason for that would be. I don't know if it's maturity. I really don't know what it would be.
Q. Did you see the defensive potential in this team from day one? There was a play in the George Mason game when Al and Joakim doubled Lewis. Was that a snapshot of the way this team plays defense?
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: It's interesting you say that because I felt in the middle of this year, right around the beginning of January, I thought our team last year was much, much better defensively, more disciplined, more accountable, more reliable. We had guys like Al Horford and Joakim Noah jumping around in the lane trying to block shots. What happened would be is they'd leave their man, go over to block a shot, they had no shot at blocking, ball goes over the basket, we had not block-out, layup.
Corey Brewer at times, because he's a good steal guy lunging it through passing lanes, getting out, to me we were, I don't want to say undisciplined, but we didn't understand the concept of when to go block shots, when to go for steals. We needed little bit of that. We've gotten better as the season has gone on through watching film of understanding what we can and cannot do defensively.
I think that's one of the things that's impressive about UCLA is they're very disciplined, they don't get out of their routine of what they do, they're very reliable for 35 seconds. With our youth I think are moving a little bit more towards that where we've been making it difficult for teams to score through the fact that we got length up in the front court and our back court players have done a pretty good job containing the ball.
THE MODERATOR: Thank you. Coach. Good luck.
COACH BILLY DONOVAN: Thank you.
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THE MODERATOR: We'll let Coach Howland make an opening statement. We have some questions lined up.
COACH BEN HOWLAND: I just want to say, impressed of all of you. You were here at 11 a.m. after leaving 2 or 3 in the morning. You guys are tough, very hard-working. You all deserve a raise. That's my opening statement (smiling).
Q. Can you talk about Cedric Bozeman, all he's been through at UCLA, to be playing in the national championship game tonight. Jordan, could you follow up on that question after coach, about what he's meant as a mentor to you.
COACH BEN HOWLAND: I tell you what, Ced has been just terrific. It goes back to last year. After his first year, my first year at UCLA, we did not have a very good team. We finished that season 11-17, lost a lot of close games. Just didn't have a lot of depth. We were part of the building process. Didn't have a lot around him that was real helpful. We had some injuries that year.
But I thought he really came back really, really focused and pushed himself, worked so hard that summer between his sophomore and junior year to improve his game, every aspect of his game. As you noticed, his free-throw shooting, his three-point shooting percentages, all his numbers have just dramatically gone up. That's all through his hard work and dedication when no one else is watching in the gym by himself or working out with his teammates, but all the time. Really worked hard in the weight room, got in great shape.
Really unbelievably tragic and upsetting when, the day before our opening exhibition game a year ago, he tore his ACL in practice. I had no idea it was going to be that serious. When he went down, it looked like it was going to be a sprained ankle. I remember seeing Ced -- I remember having to tell Ced, seeing him up in the training room. I mean, he's already had the shoulder issue. When I first got the job, he couldn't go that spring because he had a shoulder issue, I forget what shoulder it is, I think it was the right. Wasn't it the right?
CEDRIC BOZEMAN: Uh-huh.
COACH BEN HOWLAND: Right shoulder, left shoulder, knee. He's had it all.
Getting back to my point, I talk about this even, there's going to be a silver lining in the fact that although he couldn't play last year, he was out for the year, he would have to go through so much to come back this year, had to be very frustrating for him personally after working so hard and being so ready and so prepared to have a great season last year. The silver lining is this: we would not be sitting here talking right now if it weren't for Ced Bozeman being on this team this year. Make no mistake about that.
He is probably the best example of giving himself up for the team and doing whatever it takes to win, being totally selfless. At the end of the day, I'll be so happy if this comes to fruition and we are the national champions because for Ced Bozeman, that will be exactly what he deserves.
JORDAN FARMAR: He pretty much covered everything (smiling).
The same thing, though. I mean, Ced is definitely our glue. He does all the little things that we need. Coach said it, he's selfless. He's the ultimate team player. For him to go through so much and work so hard to get back, it would just be a great feeling for me and I know for the rest of the guys because we really care about each other, to send him out on a good note.
Q. Can you talk about what Luc has meant on the court and briefly what he's like off the court.
CEDRIC BOZEMAN: I mean, with Luc, you get consistency. That's the main -- that's the key word for Luc, "consistency." We know what we're going to get from him every night. He's only a freshman. The sky's the limit. I mean, I expect bigger and better things from him in the future. I'm just happy to be on his team.
JORDAN FARMAR: Same thing. He does whatever's asked of him. If we need an extra ball handler, if we tell him to go guard Big Baby, you know, whatever's asked of him, he can do it. He's always poised, always under control, great team player, real supportive of his teammates.
Off the court, he's really fun. Him and Alfred are comedians in their own right. They bring a different spirit to the team. I think we have so much diversity on this team, having them from Africa, players from Canada, all around, just makes us a real family when we come together on the floor.
Q. Cedric and Arron, there's been a lot of talk in the last few days, weeks about UCLA and its history, tradition. You guys have spoken about that. Those teams seem to be much better known for high-scoring games, fast breaking. How do you see yourselves as a team compared to what you know about those older guys? Are people these days surprised by your defense? Do they still picture UCLA as more of a fast-breaking, high-scoring team?
ARRON AFFLALO: I don't think they're surprised too much. We're definitely in a different era. That's just our mentality. We're a defensive-minded team. I think all our fans and supporters, they enjoy winning more than just showtime.
CEDRIC BOZEMAN: Yeah, basically it's substance over style. All we care about is the W. We pride ourselves on defense. If defense is going to win games, that's what we're going to do.
Q. Coach, is there a sense of urgency when you get to this point now, because of the way college basketball is now, where guys are leaving, is there a sense of urgency when you get to this point you need to win because you never know what the team is going to look like next year? Billy Donovan said he altered his approach to recruiting because of that, trying to evaluate better guys down the list who might be around three, four years.
COACH BEN HOWLAND: I want to speak to your question over here before I answer those questions.
We were really doing a good job of pushing the ball last night. I think you noticed there were actually a couple times that Big Baby called a timeout because of the changing ends and the pace of the game. We were at 39 in the first half, right? We're going to have to do that tomorrow because Florida wants to get up and down, they're going to try to press us, they're going to try to create a tempo that's up and down. That's great. We scored 86 points against Arizona at home. We can play any way you want to play. At the end of the day, we've got to defend, rebound, take good shots and take care of the basketball.
In terms of your second question, I have to be reminded of the first question, we want to recruit the very best players in the country here. A good problem is having players that are leaving early for the NBA. The more NBA players, we've got a number of them sitting right up here to my left, they're going to be future NBA players, without question, without a doubt, that's why we're sitting here right now, we have great players. We're not looking for anything less than the best possible player who also fits the profile of a UCLA student-athlete, and that is an outstanding student who is very, very committed both on and off the floor to representing himself, his family, our family, the UCLA tradition and history in every way, in every walk of life.
Q. The first part of the question was because guys leave sometimes, maybe you don't anticipate it, do you feel an urgency to win the title when you get there because you don't know you can come back with the same team?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: I'll tell you what, that aspect to why we want to win this title has zero to do with it. It's just a matter of competition. We're here now. We have a chance to win the national championship. Of course, there's a sense of urgency that has absolutely zero to do with what you're asking about. That's just -- I don't know where you want me to go with it.
The pride of UCLA basketball, the pride of these kids, everything they've gone through, all the adversity, sticking together, supporting one another, playing for one another, that's what it's all about.
Q. As much success as you had before you came to UCLA, how long were you there before you became less conscious of John Wooden looking at everything you did? Are you still perhaps conscious of that?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: Coach watches every game. Coach is always there at the home games sitting behind our bench. Believe me, I knew that. I embrace it. He's the greatest coach in the history of basketball. What was accomplished by John R. Wooden, 1930 Player of the Year, Purdue University, right from here in this local area, will never, ever be seen again at the college level. They won 37 - so you guys know - 37 straight NCAA tournament games in a row at one point. 10 championships in 12 years.
But the whole key to his run was recruiting really good players that were really good people and good human beings, that were selfless, that worked hard, that improved every day, that gave themselves to each other, just like our kids are doing now.
So the basic framework of the program in terms of what I believe in is very much what coach believes in and has set up. The first day I took this job three years ago tomorrow, I said there will never be another John Wooden. Everybody wants to be like Mike if they're a player, Michael Jordan, that's Arron's favorite guy, everybody wants to be like John. There's only one Michael and there's only one Coach.
So I don't feel any of the shadow. I embrace it. I know who I am. I'm proud to be the one carrying the torch at this time. But it will always be Nell and John R. Wooden Court. It's always going to be the Wooden Center across the street from where my office is, as it should be.
As great a coach as Coach Wooden was, only those of you that have had a chance to get to know him, get a chance to sit and visit with him, know what I'm saying. This is the honest to God's truth, he is a better person than he is a coach. He took all the opportunity of his fame and his recognition for being a great college basketball coach to help others. He helped so many charities. The Special Olympics is one that he really is fond of, having a grandson who is afflicted with mental challenges. He's just so giving of himself, with all the children's books he's done, he's a very religious man. It's shocking how well he can still recite poetry right from whatever you want to talk about at age 95. He is so sharp mentally, it's incredible.
Q. Your team, like Florida, at times this year has been perceived to be a year away. What's been important to your success during the season and your run in the tournament?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: Well, I don't know who says we're a year away. Probably the same experts that didn't think the PAC-10 had very good basketball teams, et cetera, et cetera.
Our team understands night in and night out we can beat anybody on a given night and anybody can beat us. That was proven early in the year when we were very fortunate to beat Drexel or we were very lucky to beat Wagner at the buzzer, or we were down at halftime to Coppin State. Teams that all played hard, had good years. Delaware State played us tough at home, taking air out of the ball, using clock.
We've played a lot of different levels of teams. They've all been tough. This team has gone through more adversity in terms of injuries than any team I've ever heard of, ever been a part of for sure.
What I think it's done, it's made us better. You just go right down the list here. Five sprained ankles, four on one side, one on the other, and a groin. You go to Ced, he's playing with a torn labrum right now in his left shoulder, missed eight games, the first eight games of the conference. Down there Ryan Hollins, he was out three weeks with a hamstring. He also returned from knee surgery two years ago where he had a patella, the back of his patella, they had to go in and deal with. Then Luc started out the year missing the first week of practice because of a shoulder injury. He's had a little tendinitis flaring up in his knees because he plays so hard, we're pushing him hard, playing him so many minutes.
Arron's had his share of bumps and grind, his thumb. Lorenzo Mata broke his leg, out for two months. He's had two broken noses, his second was on Monday, thanks to Luc smacking Alfred who then smacked into Lorenzo.
Ryan Hollins just got a knee contusion, what day was that, Wednesday. It's something different. They just keep coming back.
But what it's done, it's allowed a lot of the players that may not have played as much of a role early in the season to get a lot of playing time, a lot of opportunity. You have to remember that Josh Shipp is not playing right now. Josh Shipp is terrific. Josh Shipp is a big-time player who played four games for us this year, had hip surgery, the labrum of his hip, which is a rare surgery, and we were trying to get him to come back. He actually made an attempt and played in four games. There was just too much pain, discomfort, swelling to continue on the season. But while he was with us, we did beat Stanford, Arizona, Arizona State on the road. Those were all obviously huge wins.
So everybody is contributing to this program. Even the guys that aren't playing, that don't get to play as much. I was so happy to see Janou play a role. Janou Rubin has been a great kid for us for six years. Here is a kid that worked so hard, been through three knee surgeries. Last night he's playing in the national semifinals because we need him to get in there. He comes in, does a great job for us.
Q. Can you talk about Lorenzo. Is he playing at the level he's at now when he broke his leg?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: I think he was on his way. I think Lorenzo -- when Jordan broke his leg - kidding, Jordan - that's actually how it happened. In fact, I remember very vividly now, we were up 10. Jordan steals the ball at mid-court, Washington State, left going towards our bench, three-something to go in the game, and Lorenzo is sprinting down the floor. Jordan goes in and actually misses it but hustles to come back into play. Here comes Lorenzo. They run into each other.
I mean, if you look at that play, it's incredible that he didn't get hurt. Anybody else probably would have had an ACL tear, Lorenzo, first of all, his legs are like tree trunks. He has tree trunk legs. Unbelievable. Look at his calves. He played great, eight rebounds in 17 minutes.
He's on his way to being that productive all the time. I'm excited about it. He plays good in that mask, too. That mask I think gives him a little added boost to be more aggressive. Not worried about getting hit in the face with a mask on. He's doing a very good job. I thought his shot fake last night, he really slowed down. Shot fake, made a layup on a nice pass from somebody. Just did an outstanding job. We're excited about how Lorenzo Mata is playing.
Q. There's a perception out there that you young kids today are enthralled with dunks.
COACH BEN HOWLAND: They are.
Q. And also the flashy game as far as going out and running up and down the court. You have always been successful with tempo, playing good defense. How do you do that?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: We want to push the ball. I mean, if you ask these guys, we're trying to push it. We'll get better. This program will continue to evolve. For example, my teams at Northern Arizona led the country in three-point shooting percentage three years in a row - the country. We were number two, number two and number one in overall field goal percentage. That's why I know how incredible Florida is offensively when you start talking about their numbers.
Did I say they're shooting 56% from the field inside the three? Are you guys aware of that? They're shooting 57.5, if you equate it the right way, from three. It's 39% equating to 57.5. Those are high numbers. They have a great offensive team. It really is going to be a big challenge for us to be able to try to defend such skilled players, good passers. Everybody can shoot it. You look at Green, how well he shoots the ball from three. Great shooter.
Obviously Humphrey, I'm just amazed as I look at his numbers. I don't know where he is in the national scene in terms of percentage, but 45.8%, 46%, it's like shooting 69% from two. That's going to be a challenge.
They have a very, very good team. I think Luc had a couple nice dunks last night that Jordan fed him. I remember Ryan Hollins having a lob dunk which was exciting for everyone. So, yeah, we like to dunk, too, whenever it's there, it's the right play to make. It's always a high-percentage shot.
Q. As someone who made a cross-country move and back in your career, what are the things that someone who goes from one coast to the other, an East Coast guy who goes west, it has to do in getting acclimated to new recruiting situations, territories?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: You know what, that was really for me west going east. In other words, I am a West Coast guy. When I went to the East Coast in the Big East, coming back west, I was on the phone with the premiere expert of high school basketball asking, who do I have to have if I get this job, if I'm lucky enough to get this? I'm talking about Arron Afflalo and Jordan Farmar at 3 and 4 in the morning right after I got back from our last game at Pitt, which was to Dwyane Wade unfortunately in Minneapolis, who I watched last night, had a good game, he had 44. He's a great player.
In fact, it's exciting for me that I have four of my former players, three of my former players that are here right now watching these young men. I am so proud that they're able to make it. Brandon Knight is here, Jaron Brown is here and Ontario Lett is here, whose mother just passed away last week, had a funeral for his mother this past Wednesday. Because for me to be sitting here coaching these kids, that would have never happened were it not for the players I've coached before them who have been so successful and so good.
But recruiting for me in the west is much easier because that's my familiarity, that's my comfort zone in terms of having a network of people I know. Out east was more difficult. That's why I had to hire someone like Barry Rohrssen, Slice, who is from New York, who is really, really connected into New York recruiting, knows everybody. Jamie Dixon, that's the greatest recruiting job maybe ever. Jamie, come up from Hawaii, move to Pittsburgh with me. Let's go recruit to the Field House up here. Anybody remember the Field House in Pittsburgh? Recruiting out of that is no joke. Mirrors and smoke.
We were fortunate to get a lot of tough kids. Recruiting UCLA is much, much easier because of the tradition, the history, the quality of the institution, the location. I mean, he's about eight miles away, he's about 15 miles away, Ced, how far is Englewood there? 10 or 12 miles away. Ryan is a whole 20 miles away from Pasadena. Luc is about 8,000 miles away over in Cameroon.
Q. We've talked at every news conference about the history, tradition. Earlier today we were talking to some of the Florida players. I don't think you would disagree, they said tradition is great, but it doesn't make any difference come tomorrow night. Can you talk about that?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: That's fine. I mean, what's your question?
Q. Do you essentially agree with that? Does tradition mean anything when it comes to playing the actual game?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: Absolutely it means something. We're playing for ourselves. These kids are playing for one another. We're also playing for the program and for UCLA. There's no program that has more tradition or rich history of winning than UCLA. These kids know that and embrace that. They represent those four letters. They're part of a very special fraternity of players that is very, very special to be a part of and they know that and embrace it and represent it well.
I think that obviously is a motivator. For us, I'm sure for Florida it doesn't matter, for us it matters.
RYAN HOLLINS: As far as the tradition, UCLA has a great tradition, a pride, and we'll never match what the team did in the past. We're just coming to each game with the same focus and mentality knowing this is a new team, what we have to do to be successful. Florida shouldn't pay any mind to that either. It's UCLA and Florida, not the teams of the past.
THE MODERATOR: We'll let the student-athletes go to the breakout rooms.
We'll continue with questions for coach.
Q. Did your coaching philosophies get altered by your years at Pittsburgh? Is there any kind of mentality or style in the Big East that you don't see in other conferences?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: Well, what the Big East has is they probably have more athleticism 1 through 16 now, amazingly, 1 through 16 teams than any league in the country. Athletically it's just incredible the amount of athletes. Those northeastern cities produce so many players which are the bulk of the talent comes from that plays in the Big East. You just have a great advantage because you have the biggest population centers to recruit from. It's really advantageous.
The thing I like about the Big East is, as a basketball coach, selfishly, the whole thing was developed and made for basketball. That was the original purpose for that conference, was for basketball, for television. I remember, you know, ESPN first started doing the Syracuse games, you'd come home, 4:30 there would be the game on, there's Stevie Thompson from Crenshaw High School going crazy dunking the ball. You look back at the history and tradition in that league, it's a special, special league.
I saw John Thompson last night here. He's one of my heroes. What he accomplished, what he did for college basketball with his teams at Georgetown, now his son who is doing an unbelievable job there. Georgetown is back. Jamie Dixon has done an incredible job. I'm so proud of him. These last three years, he was having a real rough go. He's 76-22 over three years, including a Big East championship, two trips to the Big East championship game in the tournament. He's doing a great job. There's just so many good coaches.
Like all the power conferences. We just added Herb Sendek, I learned, last night 2 in the morning to ASU. Herb is a great coach. He's from Pittsburgh, Carnegie Mellon University. He's like so smart and intelligent. Our league is a great league. It's getting tougher and tougher. Herb just made it tougher. Tim Floyd made it tougher. There's always going to be really good players, good coaches. It's a well-run league.
Q. Billy Donovan made a hard push for Jordan. Taurean said if Jordan went there, he wouldn't have went to Florida. Can you talk about what you remember from recruiting him?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: I was sick to my gut from that whole thing. Jordan Farmar, I went and saw him the first day I could possibly go out recruiting at his school, which was at that time legal with his mom, his high school coach. Basically promised that he would have an opportunity to come in and be a starter, what a great opportunity, it's UCLA. UCLA hadn't really recruited him. It was Lavin's last year. He probably knew he wasn't going to be back. There wasn't a lot of follow-up to what we were doing, which is understandable.
He wasn't getting a lot of love from UCLA because they just weren't involved in doing a lot of recruiting at that point in time. When we came in right away as a staff, obviously Arron and he were the two primary targets. We knew how good we were, that we had to have good guards. It always starts with good guards.
He went down to visit Florida. They did a great job on the visit. They have the board there, whatever their arena is called, they're coming in with all the highlights. I think you can't even do it now. That was the last year you could do it. They made this incredible highlight film with Jordan Farmar. You would come in, someone would be announcing. He's a 16-year-old kid at the time. He was very, very excited by it all.
I forget who his host was. His host was a kid from Michigan who went pro, really good shooter. What is his name? Roberson. He loved him, had a great relationship with Roberson. So when he came back, he was really leaning that way I think. It took a couple days to try to get him settled down. Then when he came over and played with our guys, he was so dominant, he knew he was coming in and playing.
The bottom line at the end of the day, why go far away if you can have at least the same type of situation at home. I think when he reflects now upon his decision, his mom and dad are at every game. His grandparents are at every game. His girlfriend is the best soccer player, Jill Oakes, in the country maybe at UCLA. She's an All-American. She'll be on the 2008 Olympic team. He's met a really nice girl. He's doing great academically.
To be halfway done towards graduation at UCLA, you need 90 hours. We're a quarter school. You need 180 hours to graduate. Right now after this last quarter just finished, I believe he's at 95 or 93 with this quarter to go. He is way ahead of schedule to graduate. He's a sharp, sharp kid.
The only real tough part right now is that his grandfather, his maternal grandfather, is fighting cancer and could not be here, along with his mother who is staying home to take care of her father Howard. Then Mindy, his mother, is just such a special person. I spoke to her day before yesterday. She's just a great, great person.
This is the kind of connections we have to UCLA. That's why it was interesting last night talking about LSU. Arron Afflalo was born in the UCLA Medical Center. Jordan Farmar's grandfather was the first physician that worked in emergency care at the UCLA Hospital back in the early '60s. Those kids were connected at birth, as far as I'm concerned. I just happened to be the coach that was lucky enough to get them to come.
Q. Could you talk about the surprising positive effects that the NBA age limit rule has had on college basketball?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: Well, first of all, I don't think it's fair or it's legal. I don't think it's right in that respect. I think if we ask kids to go fight in Iraq for their country, they can do that at age 17 or 18, there's no reason why kids should not be able to go straight to the NBA out of high school. I'm talking about from a legal perspective only.
I also think for the game, it's the right thing, that kids that are so focused, 16 and 17, hear about it from everybody. They lose focus of what's important, which is doing the right things in school, continuing to improve and get better as a player. You've seen a lot of kids that have been able to do it, and do it really well.
You look at our league right now. Who are the best players in the NBA? Most of them -- I shouldn't say most of them. Half of them are the guys that made the jump right now. Garnett, right? Kobe Bryant? Tracy McGrady? LeBron James, Jermaine O'Neal, so on and so forth. But you've also had a vast majority of guys that have gone that it didn't work out. Where are they now?
One kid that comes to mind is a kid that was out of Houston that signed with Lute at Arizona.  he bee. He's nowhere. He never developed. I think the NBA teams are actually doing a much better job now at getting kids, they're going to develop them. I think this new league is going to be good.
How good would the team be right now that had Dwight Howard last year? How good would a team be if they had LeBron James for a year? How good is Ohio State going to be with Greg Oden. Greg Oden would not be going to college, I don't care what anybody says, if he didn't have to.
I think it's great for the college game. Again, I don't think it is right. I think Greg Oden has the right to be to the NBA and should be afforded the right for that. Selfishly speaking, it's great for college basketball.
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COACH BEN HOWLAND: I can't speak to that so much. I just think every kid's dream, my dream, I wanted to be Jerry West. That was my dream as a little kid. I wanted to be Jerry West. They all are looking. Of course, I wanted to be Gail Goodrich, too. I watched all those great UCLA. Jerry West, I grew up a Lakers fan. That's what I wanted to be. All these kids have goals to play at the next level, just like every kid who plays football wants to be Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger. That's just how it is. That's understandable.
We have the second most amount of NBA players that have come out of our program over the last 20 years than anybody in the country, I believe.
Q. When you think of LA across the country, you think of the Hollywood glitz, Lakers showtime, all the great teams you grew up watching in LA. Can you talk about how your team's gritty work ethic on defense seems to contrast that showy image?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: You know -- I hate to keep starting off all my sentences like that. There's three of them in a row now. Let's see if we can get one beginning without a "you know," Ben.
I think that Jerry Buss, and I saw Mark Cuban talking about this. Jerry Buss is ahead of his time. This guy was great at marketing the NBA and the NBA teams. 'Cause although the Lakers were great, they had great showtime with Worthy coming at you, Cooper, Magic making all the great passes, at the end of the day they won because they played the best defense in the league. They were a great defensive team.
You talk about their talent level. They had four No. 1 picks during that run on each of those teams that won it. The No. 1 pick in the draft. Bob McAdoo, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, and Mychal Thompson. You also had Michael Cooper, which in my opinion was one of the two best defensive players on any single player, other than Michael Jordan, that there is in the league. The other being Dennis Johnson. Both being LA products, I might add. Had a lot of toughness, heart, character.
You just talk about guys that are gritty. Let's go to Dennis Johnson out of Compton High School -- excuse me, Dominguez High School in Compton, LA Harbor Junior College, played for Jim White, one year at Pepperdine, ring in Seattle, ring in Boston. He's an LA product. Gary Peyton, Jason Kidd. I can go and give you a lot of guys that are tough and play hard.
I guess perception is reality. When you start really studying it and thinking about it, I thought Pat Riley's teams won on defense and definitely as well did Phil Jackson teams, both in Chicago as well.
Michael Jordan is the greatest player ever. He's the best defender ever at his position. Pippen. Why did Phil Jackson want to bring Ron Harper to the Lakers? His length, his ability to defend. I'm just telling you, best defensive teams are usually winning. Let's go to Detroit Pistons two years ago and now. San Antonio Spurs. That's where I think the Mavericks have made a huge increase this year, when you look at what a great job Johnson has done. Those guys are playing hard. George Karl's teams play great defense. Chuck Daly's teams.
Bottom line is people like to win. Players like to win. That's the bottom line.
Q. Your team seems to belie the image of LA.
COACH BEN HOWLAND: I'm not buying it. I grew up in Southern California. I'm not buying into that has to be the image of LA. To me the image of LA are hard-working, good people that play together and are tough, just happen to live in the greatest place in the world to live in. That's fortunate for all of us that are from Southern California.
Q. Can you talk about how you and your colleagues have had to adapt to the fact that kids are getting younger and younger. You're playing with freshmen and sophomores mostly. How has that changed in terms of recruiting and game coaching?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: You know, there I go again. Someone buzz me, throw something at me next time I do that.
At Pitt, I had older players. At Pitt, I had Carl Krauser who just graduated this year, 25. He was my last year there, he was a 22-year-old sophomore. Jaron Brown was 23. Ontario Lett was 24. Brandon Knight and Julius Page were young. Who else? We had some other guys. I had a bunch of guys that redshirted. Chevy Troutman was a redshirt. Mark McCarol was a redshirt.
We had a lot of different guys that were older. That's just four years ago, five years ago. It just depends. Right now we're in a cycle at UCLA where we've got a lot of young guys, yes, nine freshmen or sophomores, that includes Josh, who is not playing.
It will cycle its way. Sometimes you'll have some four-year guys that have been there. Other times you'll be playing with freshmen. That's just how it is. That's one of the things I think that you're going to continue to see. This George Mason run, it's not the last time we're seeing that from a "mid-major" program. I think they had three players that were fifth-year seniors. It's such an advantage to be older than your opponent both mentally, physically and to have that experience of having gone through adversity and the ups and downs of being a college basketball player.
Gonzaga, look what they've done, Mark Few has done as good a job in the country with their program in the last seven years. When he took over that program, he took it to a new level. You don't think of them as a mid-major program. Their league is a mid-major, but they're a high major program.
Q. Billy Donovan said he plays the way his team plays because if it hadn't been an up-tempo game he might have never gotten a shot at Providence against Georgetown. Why do you play the way you play?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: How do we play (smiling)?
Q. You tell me.
COACH BEN HOWLAND: We play really hard, really hard. We try really hard. We're unselfish. We try to take good shots. We try to pressure you by pushing the ball. Again, we forced a couple timeouts last night on the other team by just running the ball at 'em and keep coming at 'em.
You know, I think sometimes people get into generalities and pigeonholes. We can play however you want to play. At the end of the day, it comes down to defending, rebounding, contesting shots, taking good shots, and obviously taking care of the basketball, executing at both ends of the floor.
Q. When you took over the UCLA program, did it seem like a mammoth obstacle that you had in front of you in terms of getting things the way you wanted? Is this run happening quicker than you might have expected?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: I knew that we had a lot of recruiting to do. That's where it all starts and ends. You have to have good players. You see our league is just loading up right now. The big kid who I tried to recruit, Lorenzo did a great job. Brockman and now Spencer Haas, they have two NBA players inside Washington. Washington, just for all of you that didn't get a chance to see Brandon Roy much, I was really happy that he got first team All-American. I hope in some little way me talking about him all the time on the national media maybe gave him a little more exposure for people to really watch because that kid deserved it. What a great player.
Lorenzo is just a classy act. He's a former UCLA assistant, was here last time the Bruins were victorious in this game Monday night.
I look back when I first arrived at UCLA, I was so happy just to have the job. The daunting task of rebuilding was something you expected. It was a long first year. The bottom line is I have a great staff, unbelievable group of assistant coaches. You can't do any job without a lot of good people all working together on the same page, pulling the same direction. We have great chemistry not only within our team but within our staff. They do just an outstanding job in every aspect of the game to help this program be where it is right now, in such a quick amount of time.
Q. Have you allowed yourself a moment yet to think about what impact a national championship might have on your career, life, the big picture? Have you talked to other coaches that have done it and how it affected them?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: No. I'm just really focused -- we got out of here last night as the clock changed. Luc came back. Luc Richard had his knee x-rayed here last night because he bumped it. If you stub your toe, we're going to do an MRI now at UCLA with all the injuries we had. Came back negative.
I didn't get out of here till 2:00. I got back to the room, saw my wife, saw my kids, saw my mom momentarily, went down to the film room till about 4, 4:15, 4:30, came back up, tried to sleep. Got up at 10 so I could be here with you on time, watching a little film before I got here, having something to eat.
All I'm focused on right now is the day at hand, just trying to focus on giving our team the best chance to prepare for tomorrow's game.
Q. This weekend used to be dominated by juniors and seniors, now you have all the freshmen and sophomores. Why are they able to succeed so early? Does it make the situation a little more volatile because you don't quite know what you're always going to get from a young team?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: I don't know if you know you're going to get out of juniors and seniors either. They're still kids. They're still 18, 19, 20 years old, whatever they are. Sometimes they're older, like I was fortunate to have at Pitt. Teams are what they are. There's a lot of young talent out there. Kids are really good players.
Billy had some guys last year that probably should have come back for another year and got some bad advice, in my opinion. Imagine if they have Walsh right now, Roberson. What about the kid that left Alabama early? I was glad we didn't have to see him. What was his name? Winston, Kennedy Winston. They had five or six guys that left the SEC early last year that didn't get drafted.
You know, you have -- there's another one. We're always going to support our players, whatever decision they make. But it's got to be the right decision that's best for them. I think oftentimes kids get bad advice. Like the kid at Kentucky, thank goodness they let him back. What's the big kid's name? Morris?
Q. Can you talk, what was the first advice somebody gave you when you took the UCLA job or words of wisdom you got?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: I don't know. I'm thinking about conversations with Coach Wooden. He's so great. He's just supportive. He's not telling you how to do anything. He's just there to be supportive and has been for all the coaches that have followed him. I think now I'm like the eighth guy in the last 31 years or whatever it is.
He's the example. That's who you want to be like. Listening and talking to him, all the things that he speaks to, it's just neat to see the reverence towards him from his former players, all the people associated with that program. Especially for me having grown up watching those teams, living those games on TV with Dick Enberg, 23-footer at the top of the key to a 35-footer by Henry Bibby. It's so much fun for me to see Dick at these games, because I grew up with Dick calling the games. He was very good at embellishing outside shots.
Q. At any of your previous stops, Northern Arizona, Pitt or now, have you ever recruited a kid, other than an obvious shot blocker, whose talents were heavily skewed to defense as opposed to offense? Over the years, has there been a change of the average mentality of the average kid about the (indiscernible) of offense over defense when they're in high school? How much of a sell do you have to do with kids?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: We always look for players that can put the ball in the basket. I love guys who can shoot. Arron and Jordan, for example, are very, very good shooters. That's what Mike Roll does really well. I think this kid coming up next year is a McDonald's All-American, James Keefe, really shoots the ball. You also want to have kids that are athletic. That's our real strength right now, is our athleticism. We're very quick. We're playing Luc as a four. His NBA position will be a three.
In terms of selling defense, I mean, I think any coach that's going to win is going to have to get their kids to play good defense, not just in basketball, but football, baseball, whatever sport you're talking about. Players want to get better. Jordan Farmar knew he had to become a better defensive player. He's going to be challenged big time here come tomorrow night because he'll be guarding someone really good on the perimeter, whoever it is, whether it's Green, Humphrey or Brewer, whoever he ends up guarding, it's going to be a challenge.
You know, he's going to be an NBA player as well. At that level, you've got to be able to play both ends. They all want to get to the league. They all want to be in the NBA. Fortunately, we're going to have a lot of them that get there. You've got to be able to play at that level.
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COACH BEN HOWLAND: Yes. I mean, not exclusively on the basis, but I look for guys that can really be a good defender. When I was an assistant at UC Santa Barbara, we had a local kid named Paul Johnson who was really highly recruited, recruited by Cal, ASU. I started recruiting him when he was in eighth grade or seventh grade. He grew up in the Boys' Club there at Santa Barbara. I knew a lot of the people around him.
His first thing was going to be he was going to be able to defend. We beat Loyola Marymount with Hank and Bo at home at the first ESPN game at UC Santa Barbara. He picked the ball up full court to slow the break, did an incredible job. He was a great, great defensive player, no question.
Q. When you took the job at UCLA, did you do anything specific to reach out to the former legends of the program? How did you get them back involved with your program?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: Well, they did a really nice thing for me when I first got the job. They invited a lot of the former players to a kind of meet the coach at the Hall of Fame there, which is a beautiful building that displays the 97 national championships in all sports, which is the most in the country by far of any college, university athletic program, including by 18 by Al Scates in men's volleyball, which is a record. Coach Wooden only has 10. We've got them in everything. 97 national championship trophies displayed. If you have never been in the Hall of Fame at UCLA, it's something you want to do. This is where Arthur Ashe went to school, Jackie Robinson went to school. You're talking about FloJo went to school at UCLA. The breadth of excellence within our athletic department is unbelievable.
Getting back to your question, that was a room we were in. I met a lot of them. What we did last fall, this past fall, I really wanted to do this because I want our players to get the tradition and history. They hear about it. They see about it. They read about it. But the best way to feel it is to know the players and the coach himself.
So Coach Wooden, his assistant Jerry Norman, a part those first four championships. I invited everybody. Only so many guys to make it on fairly short notice. It was probably six weeks. We had players from all the eras, about 75, 80 strong that came to my house, had an unbelievable tri-tip barbecue. For those of you who don't know what that is, you're missing out. Cooked by my best friend who I grew up with in Santa Barbara. It was great.
We had Bill Walton there. It was kind of fun for a little UCLA groupie eight-year-old who grew up watching all these guys play to have Bill Walton in my backyard with Greg Lee, Coach Wooden sitting there. You had Marques Johnson, Rod Foster, Don MacLean, Lucius Allen, Lynn Shackelford. You had players from the '48 team, Eddie Sheldrake. George Stanich, who played for 1948 for coach on his first teams.
You could go on and on and on, all the players that were there. Mike Warren, from right here in Indiana. A great guy. His son is my hero because he's dating Jessica Alba. Only in America. There were so many great players there. Bill Sweek was there. John Salley was there. It was so much fun. Coach was sitting out by the pool. So much fun. Coach Wooden is sitting out by a little pool, a very small backyard actually to be able to entertain. Everybody is just coming.
Washington was there. Billy Washington. It was really special for me and for our players. Anyway, Bill Sweek has been over in France. It's great. He's sitting there talking to Alfred and Luc in French fluently in a conversation that goes on for half an hour. Alfred Aboya speaks four languages. Luc only speaks three. These are bright, driven kids in the classroom. Luc's dad doesn't even care about basketball. All he wants to know is what are your grades. His dad was a great soccer player for the Cameroonian national team. The bottom line is, the kid is the way he is because we all are a reflection of our parents and how we were raised.
Q. The tradition and history which you've been speaking quite a bit, which you say you have embraced, also seems to have created very high expectations, maybe unreal expectations, very high standards that a lot of coaches couldn't live up to. Did you consider that before you took this job? If so, how did you plan to deal with that?
COACH BEN HOWLAND: Steve Lavin went to the Sweet-16 five of seven years as the head coach, including one Elite 8. He was also in the NCAA tournament that sixth year. The only year he didn't go was his last year. Yeah, I guess you could say there's high expectations because it was thought of that we've got to make a change. I'm not a part of that.
But I'm not afraid of the expectation. I embrace the expectation. I want our players to embrace that. That's part of the reason we are where we are right now. They're not afraid. If you're afraid to fail, you will.
Q. Could you talk about when you got there, Jordan Farmar was talking earlier he was really considering going other places until you talked to him.
COACH BEN HOWLAND: Begged him. Begged him. Groveled with him.
Q. Can you describe the conversation, how quickly you were on the phone to him.
COACH BEN HOWLAND: It's about like she is right there and you're Jordan. I was begging and groveling for a few hours.
I thought -- I mean, UCLA has so much to sell. This kid is a great student. His mother Mindy and his dad Damon, they both get it and understand what UCLA means and has to offer beyond basketball, beyond when their career is over. When his career is over, his opportunities because of the relationships and his standing in the community are going to really be I think important to his future. That's one of the special things. Our alumni base, you're talking about a school that's one of the great public institutions in the world, arguably the University of Michigan, University of California LA, University of California Berkeley, University of Virginia would be the top four public universities in the United States. Our budget is $3.2 billion. The hospital is a top hospital per US World News and Report west of the Mississippi. The research that's going on there now is incredible, not only in the medical field, but in every other -- there's over five thousand research projects going on at any given time at UCLA in many different disciplines. The Anderson School of Business is one of the top business schools in the country. Our law school is incredible, especially when the emphasis is on entertainment law because we are in the center of the entertainment industry. There is so much that is special about UCLA to sell, much less getting into basketball.
We are the most applied-to campus in the United States of America. One of the things that's been proven, one of the few things that has been proven about college athletics, with success in athletics, people get excited. More kids apply to go to school there because they want to be a part of that great exciting experience that happens in college athletics that is unbelievable. It raises the amount of applications to where you have more to choose from.
That happened at Pitt between my second and third year. Our applications went up dramatically. That was really special. That means a lot to me. That's a great school. I love that in some way we're helping through athletics to raise the level of applications so you have more students to be able to choose from. I think people lose sight of that sometimes. College athletics is very much a part of the college experience. It's very, very special. People have a love for their university for the rest of their lives after their four years of college. It's fun.
THE MODERATOR: Thank you, coach. Good luck tomorrow.
COACH BEN HOWLAND: Thank you.