For Recruiting, This is THE Game

Florida may have three main rivalries on their schedule every year, but when it comes to recruiting, this is the game and the team that matters. Georgia and Tennessee are hated by the Gators, but it is Florida State that year in and year out the Gators face on the recruiting trail more than any other. Urban Meyer and his Gators are 4-0 so far in the rivalry, but that means squat come Saturday.

Florida senior linebacker Ryan Stamper summed it up nicely this week. The starting WILL backer from Jacksonville's First Coast HS knows all too much what this game means.

"It's big time...this is a big time rivalry," Stamper said. "As far as Georgia and Tennessee, those are big, but this is Florida football here. I have three high school teammates that play for FSU. (Florida State receiver) Rod Owens and I are good friends. It is like you are playing against your friends and you want to beat them, but you have to learn to hate them."

Hate is probably the right word here. This game has been nasty in the past. Before Meyer showed, there were pregame brawls, post game brawls, and just about every kind of intentional foul in the book during the game.

It will be intense no matter that the Noles have already lost five games and the Gators are undefeated and ranked No. 1 in the land. There will be prospects from all over the country on hand watching this game and they will be entrenched and into it from the get go. Yet, it is the state of Florida prospects that will be scrutinizing everything. They know what all of this means and different prospects will have different views on what they see.

Stamper remembers back when he was being recruited. He was almost on the fence when it came to the rivalry.

"I liked both of the Florida teams," Stamper said. "Back where I am from Florida State was the team that a lot of people liked in my neighborhood. I watched Florida a lot more because I had Reggie Lewis and Kenneth Tookes from my high school that went to Florida. I watched the games to see if they got in the games. My mom was always a Florida fan. I liked the Gators, but I really started watching them as a freshman in high school."

Stamper also expects the best game of the year from the Seminoles.

"A lot of people say the rivalry has changed and if you look back to the '90s this game decided who was going to the national championship," he said. "Even though we have been the most successful in this rivalry in the last few years, it still doesn't change how we approach this rivalry. We know any team can be beaten in a rivalry game. Even though they haven't had a great season, we know it will make their season if they beat us."

Senior Gator receiver David Nelson is originally from Texas but he has come to understand the rivalry between the two schools. He knows that they have to have the right mind frame going in to the game. The fact that it is the seniors last game playing in The Swamp has also added a sense of urgency.

"There is a lot at stake," Nelson said. "There are a lot of thing we want to accomplish to end the season. Obviously finishing the season undefeated would be a huge accomplishment for us. It is always great to win a rivalry. There is something special to go into the locker room after winning a rivalry game, especially Florida State. It's senior day for us, our last day in The Swamp and our last chance to sing the fight song in front of the student section."

The winner of this game will also help in recruiting. The Gators and Seminoles have locked horns in recruiting more with each other than any of their other rivals. The list of players on each team that was very interested and recruited hard by the other school is huge.

For Florida, prominent players like Jeff Demps, Chris Rainey, Deonte Thompson, Mike Pouncey, Maurkice Pouncey, Marcus Gilbert, Carl Johnson, Jaye Howard, Brandon Spikes, Dustin Doe, Ryan Stamper, Jon Bostic, Major Wright, Dorian Munroe, Ahmad Black, Will Hill, Janoris Jenkins, and Joe Haden all considered themselves Florida State fans or at least considered FSU a viable option in the recruiting process.

Others like Andre Debose, Jonotthan Harrison, Earl Okine, and Gary Brown haven't seen the field much if at all, but were big battles with the Noles.

The game on Saturday should have a hand full of Florida-FSU recruiting battles in attendance.

The nation's top middle linebacker Jeff Luc is expected in, as is the nation's top safety in Matt Elam. Five-star cornerback Lamarcus Joyner along with five-star receivers Christian Green and Chris Dunkley should be in Gainesville this weekend. Cornerback Cody Riggs, defensive end Darious Cummings, defensive tackle Louis Nix, receiver James Louis, and defensive end Lynden Trail are all four-star prospects expected in. All of these prospects are or were at some point a Florida-Florida State battle in this recruiting cycle.

Stamper and Nelson are two seniors from the 2005 class that redshirted as freshmen, but it is the 2006 class that the Gators would like to duplicate as much as they can for the class of 2010. This combined senior class is leaving Florida as the winningest senior class in school history. The class was heralded back in 2006, but Florida head coach Urban Meyer says you have to see what they accomplish before you can really grade a class.

"There is one way to evaluate recruiting is to watch where they are ranked three and four years down the road and how they did," Meyer said earlier in the week. "To win more games than any class in SEC history that is a testimony to the quality of that class."

That 2006 class was something special. Tim Tebow, Brandon Spikes, Brandon James, Percy Harvin, Riley Cooper, Marcus Gilbert, Carl Johnson, Jermaine Cunningham, Terron Sanders, Lawrence Marsh, Brandon Antwine, Dustin Doe, A.J. Jones, Markihe Anderson, and Wondy Pierre-Louis aren't all seniors but all were a part of that 2006 class.

Just like back then, Florida will have to recruit many of the 2010 prospects until the final whistle sounds on signing day. Some of the 2010 group may already even be committed to Florida, but Meyer knows he will have to stay on some to make sure they are a part of this class on signing day.

"Our guys are committed and you have to have a feel for them," Meyer said about the 18 prospects that have given a public verbal pledge to the Gators. "There are some guys that are committed that I don't have concerns about. There are others that are still making trips. You have to make sure that you hammer them and work them as hard as you can. With young players you need to do that because other schools are after them."

It also goes the other way around. Meyer has earned a reputation as a relentless recruiter and isn't scared to take on a prospect that may already be committed to another school. That may be especially the case this season as there is some ambiguity in how many spots are available for this class.

"We recruit committed players at the same tempo we recruit uncommitted players, you just have to do that," Meyer said. "We have some very talented juniors, so we have to keep pushing as hard as we can because we aren't sure how many spots we actually have available. We had a meeting this morning because we want to make sure we are on target with how many early enrollees we have available. After that we have to have solid numbers in place to replace guys that move on to the NFL. We have never had so many question marks around what spots will be available. "

The Gators will be losing a lot after this season. There will be an exodus to the NFL that the Gators haven't seen in quite some time. However, there are plenty of talented guy that will still be on the roster due to the way Meyer and his staff recruits. Stamper thinks the Gators of 2010 will be pretty hard to beat as well.

"I don't think it is going to be a totally different look," Stamper said of next season. "There are going to be a lot of big time players leaving, but Florida recruits very well and Coach Meyer recruited a bunch of great players. Even with a lot of players leaving, you are going to have a lot of great seniors Justin Trattou, Lawrence Marsh, Terron Sanders, Brandon Hicks, Lorenzo Edwards, A.J. Jones, Ahmad Black, Major Wright, there are still going to be a lot of seniors and a lot of veterans on defense and offense. There will still be a lot of big time players here."

Yet, there will be some openings as well. There are certain spots on the roster that a freshman can come in right away and make a difference, much like 2006. Florida has been fighting the deep roster for year, but they have to just keep after these prospects to want to fight for a job and win at the same time. Many schools just offer up playing time promises that the Gators aren't willing to give.

"If young guys are promised a starting spot, that is when it gets hard because we have an established program here," Meyer said. "We just have to continue that. In '06, a lot of those guys knew they could come in and play early. I think that now that we have a really good senior class and some top juniors I think we can get back to that because we will see more young players playing now."

Saturday could go a long way in ensuring that happens.


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\r\n","mobileBody":"Florida senior linebacker Ryan Stamper summed it up nicely this week. The starting WILL backer from Jacksonville's First Coast HS knows all too much what this game means.

\"It's big time...this is a big time rivalry,\" Stamper said. \"As far as Georgia and Tennessee, those are big, but this is Florida football here. I have three high school teammates that play for FSU. (Florida State receiver) Rod Owens and I are good friends. It is like you are playing against your friends and you want to beat them, but you have to learn to hate them.\"

Hate is probably the right word here. This game has been nasty in the past. Before Meyer showed, there were pregame brawls, post game brawls, and just about every kind of intentional foul in the book during the game.

It will be intense no matter that the Noles have already lost five games and the Gators are undefeated and ranked No. 1 in the land. There will be prospects from all over the country on hand watching this game and they will be entrenched and into it from the get go. Yet, it is the state of Florida prospects that will be scrutinizing everything. They know what all of this means and different prospects will have different views on what they see.

Stamper remembers back when he was being recruited. He was almost on the fence when it came to the rivalry.

\"I liked both of the Florida teams,\" Stamper said. \"Back where I am from Florida State was the team that a lot of people liked in my neighborhood. I watched Florida a lot more because I had Reggie Lewis and Kenneth Tookes from my high school that went to Florida. I watched the games to see if they got in the games. My mom was always a Florida fan. I liked the Gators, but I really started watching them as a freshman in high school.\"

Stamper also expects the best game of the year from the Seminoles.

\"A lot of people say the rivalry has changed and if you look back to the '90s this game decided who was going to the national championship,\" he said. \"Even though we have been the most successful in this rivalry in the last few years, it still doesn't change how we approach this rivalry. We know any team can be beaten in a rivalry game. Even though they haven't had a great season, we know it will make their season if they beat us.\"

Senior Gator receiver David Nelson is originally from Texas but he has come to understand the rivalry between the two schools. He knows that they have to have the right mind frame going in to the game. The fact that it is the seniors last game playing in The Swamp has also added a sense of urgency.

\"There is a lot at stake,\" Nelson said. \"There are a lot of thing we want to accomplish to end the season. Obviously finishing the season undefeated would be a huge accomplishment for us. It is always great to win a rivalry. There is something special to go into the locker room after winning a rivalry game, especially Florida State. It's senior day for us, our last day in The Swamp and our last chance to sing the fight song in front of the student section.\"

The winner of this game will also help in recruiting. The Gators and Seminoles have locked horns in recruiting more with each other than any of their other rivals. The list of players on each team that was very interested and recruited hard by the other school is huge.

For Florida, prominent players like Jeff Demps, Chris Rainey, Deonte Thompson, Mike Pouncey, Maurkice Pouncey, Marcus Gilbert, Carl Johnson, Jaye Howard, Brandon Spikes, Dustin Doe, Ryan Stamper, Jon Bostic, Major Wright, Dorian Munroe, Ahmad Black, Will Hill, Janoris Jenkins, and Joe Haden all considered themselves Florida State fans or at least considered FSU a viable option in the recruiting process.

Others like Andre Debose, Jonotthan Harrison, Earl Okine, and Gary Brown haven't seen the field much if at all, but were big battles with the Noles.

The game on Saturday should have a hand full of Florida-FSU recruiting battles in attendance.

The nation's top middle linebacker Jeff Luc is expected in, as is the nation's top safety in Matt Elam. Five-star cornerback Lamarcus Joyner along with five-star receivers Christian Green and Chris Dunkley should be in Gainesville this weekend. Cornerback Cody Riggs, defensive end Darious Cummings, defensive tackle Louis Nix, receiver James Louis, and defensive end Lynden Trail are all four-star prospects expected in. All of these prospects are or were at some point a Florida-Florida State battle in this recruiting cycle.

Stamper and Nelson are two seniors from the 2005 class that redshirted as freshmen, but it is the 2006 class that the Gators would like to duplicate as much as they can for the class of 2010. This combined senior class is leaving Florida as the winningest senior class in school history. The class was heralded back in 2006, but Florida head coach Urban Meyer says you have to see what they accomplish before you can really grade a class.

\"There is one way to evaluate recruiting is to watch where they are ranked three and four years down the road and how they did,\" Meyer said earlier in the week. \"To win more games than any class in SEC history that is a testimony to the quality of that class.\"

That 2006 class was something special. Tim Tebow, Brandon Spikes, Brandon James, Percy Harvin, Riley Cooper, Marcus Gilbert, Carl Johnson, Jermaine Cunningham, Terron Sanders, Lawrence Marsh, Brandon Antwine, Dustin Doe, A.J. Jones, Markihe Anderson, and Wondy Pierre-Louis aren't all seniors but all were a part of that 2006 class.

Just like back then, Florida will have to recruit many of the 2010 prospects until the final whistle sounds on signing day. Some of the 2010 group may already even be committed to Florida, but Meyer knows he will have to stay on some to make sure they are a part of this class on signing day.

\"Our guys are committed and you have to have a feel for them,\" Meyer said about the 18 prospects that have given a public verbal pledge to the Gators. \"There are some guys that are committed that I don't have concerns about. There are others that are still making trips. You have to make sure that you hammer them and work them as hard as you can. With young players you need to do that because other schools are after them.\"

It also goes the other way around. Meyer has earned a reputation as a relentless recruiter and isn't scared to take on a prospect that may already be committed to another school. That may be especially the case this season as there is some ambiguity in how many spots are available for this class.

\"We recruit committed players at the same tempo we recruit uncommitted players, you just have to do that,\" Meyer said. \"We have some very talented juniors, so we have to keep pushing as hard as we can because we aren't sure how many spots we actually have available. We had a meeting this morning because we want to make sure we are on target with how many early enrollees we have available. After that we have to have solid numbers in place to replace guys that move on to the NFL. We have never had so many question marks around what spots will be available. \"

The Gators will be losing a lot after this season. There will be an exodus to the NFL that the Gators haven't seen in quite some time. However, there are plenty of talented guy that will still be on the roster due to the way Meyer and his staff recruits. Stamper thinks the Gators of 2010 will be pretty hard to beat as well.

\"I don't think it is going to be a totally different look,\" Stamper said of next season. \"There are going to be a lot of big time players leaving, but Florida recruits very well and Coach Meyer recruited a bunch of great players. Even with a lot of players leaving, you are going to have a lot of great seniors Justin Trattou, Lawrence Marsh, Terron Sanders, Brandon Hicks, Lorenzo Edwards, A.J. Jones, Ahmad Black, Major Wright, there are still going to be a lot of seniors and a lot of veterans on defense and offense. There will still be a lot of big time players here.\"

Yet, there will be some openings as well. There are certain spots on the roster that a freshman can come in right away and make a difference, much like 2006. Florida has been fighting the deep roster for year, but they have to just keep after these prospects to want to fight for a job and win at the same time. Many schools just offer up playing time promises that the Gators aren't willing to give.

\"If young guys are promised a starting spot, that is when it gets hard because we have an established program here,\" Meyer said. \"We just have to continue that. In '06, a lot of those guys knew they could come in and play early. I think that now that we have a really good senior class and some top juniors I think we can get back to that because we will see more young players playing now.\"

Saturday could go a long way in ensuring that happens.

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