MANHATTAN, Kan. - So, why did Saturday's 77-58 victory over Oklahoma State take on such historical significance? No, K-State was already in the NCAA Tournament, win, or lose; and the Wildcats were playing for no better than fifth place in the final Big 12 Conference standings. So what's the big deal?

Have a seat, my K-State friends, for a Wildcat tale that you're going to find hard to believe.

My question to each of you is to name the last time that in the same academic year the K-State football team and men's basketball team finished above .500 in conference games.

Remember the key phrases: same academic year, above .500, and conference games. This year that meant a record of at least 5-4 in football and at least 10-8 in basketball, which the Wildcats accomplished with Bill Snyder's guys going 7-2 and Frank Martin's group going 10-8.

But when was the last time both teams were above .500 in league play in the same year? (Writer's note: Sitting here whistling the Wabash Cannonball … and your time is up! Your answer, please. Sorry, but whatever you guessed, I'm guessing, is not the right answer.)

Hop on board and let me navigate you through a 400 Level course in Wildcat History as each of your guesses falls to the wayside.


It's true that K-State basketball has won 10, 10, 9, 11 and 10 Big 12 games in the last five years, BUT, the footballers did no better than 4-4 in the league, which included the 4-4 Texas Bowl season in 2006 and the 3-5 Pinstripe Bowl season in 2010.
That's not "above" .500.


In an 11-year period from 1993-2003, Bill Snyder's Wildcats were one of the rulers of the Big 12 Conference with 6-2 being the average season during a run when the ‘Cat rang the Big 12 North title victory bell four times. BUT, during that same 11-year period, K-State finished .500 only once in 1995-96 when Tom Asbury's club went 7-7 and advanced to the NCAA Tournament.
That's not "above" .500.

Even in the 1993-94 season when Dana Altman led K-State to the Final Four of the NIT, it came following a regular season when the ‘Cats were just 4-10 in the Big 8.


Nope! K-State finished 6-5-1 and advanced to its first ever bowl game (Independence Bowl), but the trip followed only a 3-3-1 season in the Big 8. Plus, hoops went a dreadful 4-10.
(How many of you have already guessed wrong?)


Vince "We Gonna Win" Gibson came barreling into town in the late-1960s, and with Lynn "White Shoes" Dickey at the helm, the ‘Cats humbled the Oklahoma Sooners, 59-21, BUT, it was one of just three Big 8 wins, while the Cotton Fitzsimmon's era ended with a glossy 10-4 mark. In 1970 Gibson's ‘Cats did go 5-2 in the Big 8, BUT that was Jack Hartman's first season at the helm when the ‘Cats finished 6-8.


From 1955-1956 through 1963-64, K-State won seven Big 7/8 titles and placed second twice during a nine-year span. BUT, during those same nine football seasons, K-State won a total … that's total … of 11 conference football games. Bill Meek's Wildcats did go 3-3 in 1954, but in no other season did K-State win more than two league games.

1953-54 / 1954-55:

Those were years when K-State won 13 football games, which included a 4-2 Big 7 record in 1953. BUT, that was Tex Winter's first season and the ‘Cats were just 5-7 with the round ball. The next season, both teams went .500 in league play – 3-3 and 6-6. (How many of you are now still alive with your guess?)


From the 1947-48 season through the 1952-53 campaign, the guys in Purple won three hoop titles, placed second twice and third once. BUT, those were six fall seasons when Sam Francis, Ralph Graham and Bill Meek produced … oh my! … only one conference football win. In fact, from 1935 through 1952, K-State either won one or zero league football games in 16 of the 18 seasons.


In 1934, Lynn "Pappy" Waldorf guided the ‘Cats to a 7-2-1 overall mark and 5-0 in the Missouri Valley for the league title. BUT, that same year Frank Root's basketball team went just 4-12 in the Big 6, which included five losses to Kansas.

(There … did that eliminate everyone else still standing?)


Bo McMillin coached the football gladiators to league records of 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 2-3 and 4-1 in a five-year period between 1929 and 1933. BUT, in basketball those were years when the ‘Cats went 4-6, 5-5, 5-5, 4-6 and 2-8 years. Close, but none were "above" .500.


In 1925-26 … a long, long, long time ago … Hall of Fame coach Charles Bachman coached the football Wildcats to a 5-2-1 record, which included a 3-2-1 mark in the Missouri Valley Conference. Amazingly, it was a season when K-State scored touchdowns in just four of the eight games, and a total of two points … yes, that's total of two points … in the other four games combined. That's 70 total points in eight games, but still a 5-2-1 record as they allowed just 43 points for the season.

Later in that academic year, Charles Corsaut's basketball team, captained by Fritz Koch, went 11-7, which included a 9-3 Valley record.

That is the record that Bill Snyder and Frank Martin tied in 2011-2012.


• K-State's football team also finished above .500 in league play in 1921 (4-2) and 1922 (3-1-2), BUT, those were 3-13 and 2-14 years, respectively, in basketball.

• In 1918, K-State went 4-1 in football with wins over Baker, Fort Riley, Washburn and Iowa State, plus a loss to Kansas, while basketball went 10-2. BUT, here's the problem. While the ‘Cats were involved in the Missouri Valley in basketball, the football team, with that five-game schedule, was not affiliated with a league.

• During the Mike Ahearn days – 1905-1910 in football and 1906-11 in basketball – of coaching both sports, multiple times K-State was well above .500, BUT, at that time the school did not have a listed alignment with a conference. Well, thanks for joining me. It's been an 1,100-word, or so, weave through K-State history with this point to be taken.

For those Wildcats fans attending football and basketball games this season, you enjoyed something that has now been accomplished only twice in the history of Kansas State University. As amazingly as it sounds, that's finishing above .500 in conference play in both football and men's basketball in the same academic season.

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