"I'm confident that we do not know the answer to that."
Back on Aug. 26th, you classified this investigation as having two prongs, one relating to agents and the other relating to academics. But my understanding is that certain former players involved are not agents or acting on behalf of agents, so where do the former players that are involved fit into the equation?
"I can say this with respect to Deunta's visit to California and to Kendric's visit to California, there is absolutely no evidence – none – that suggests that had anything to do with an agent or representation or financial management. And I have said publicly that they were visiting with a Carolina football letterman."
So with a former player involved, does that make for a separate part of this investigation?
"Well, I think maybe when we classified it as a two-prong [investigation], maybe a more accurate description would have been to say 'agent/extra benefits'."
Was everything concerning agents and extra benefits pretty much known when the NCAA conducted the first set of interviews in July, or has a lot of this information come about during this process?
"I would say some was known and I would say some was not known… Clearly, as a result of the interviews, we found out things that the NCAA didn't know about."
NCAA spokesman Stacey Osburn was quoted last night as saying the NCAA has ruled on all reinstatement requests made by UNC thus far. Can you explain the reinstatement process and why some of the other players in question haven't reached that point yet?
"You might look at this as three prongs. You've got the fact-finding, the investigative part that ends when we're doing it together. It ends with an agreement on the statement of facts, at least that these are things that both the institution and the NCAA can agree on... After you go through that process, then you go through another division where they examine that statement of facts, and then they tell you whether or not violations occurred and specifically cite the violations so that when you go to the next step, which is the last step and is the reinstatement process, that you've declared a student-athlete ineligible based on the violations that they've told you that you have. Then you write your explanation as to any mitigating circumstances or [say], ‘Sure, this thing happened, but it was in this context that it happened,' and that kind of thing.
"So we have processed a number of guys through that final stage. The earliest ones that you knew about were Quan [Sturdivant] and Bruce [Carter]. There have been other situations where we've also got clearance that really the public hasn't known about or focused on, and then we've got some remaining who are at various stages in getting to that reinstatement process. We're very, very close on almost all of those guys. And we may be waiting on something that the NCAA thinks is important or that we think is important that could be helpful to a student-athlete. Maybe it's a record that we need that's going to validate a certain comment or situation that has been described, so it's maybe a little bit out of our control, but nonetheless, it's very important. And you don't want to go forward and lose an advantage for the student-athlete.
"That's when I say that everything is individually driven and each case is handled separately, that's what I mean. And when I say that we've almost finished all of the gathering of facts… I want to make this clear – that probably means there's some information that we've not been able to get that's important. It could be very helpful to the student-athlete and we need that information. And it may be outside of our control and it may be outside of that student-athlete's control, and maybe it's in the hands of somebody else who produces those records."
On the academic side of things, you had mentioned on Thursday that some of the players now fall under UNC's guidelines. Have some of those players already dealt with the NCAA or do they fall outside of the NCAA's scope?
"Well, that would get me into some details, and I'm not comfortable going there."
Have you second-guessed the school's initial decision to remain silent and completely cooperate with the NCAA in light of what are clearly more serious punishments than expected?
"I remain convinced that the way we approached it is the right way and the only way for the University of North Carolina to approach it, and that's with a sense of cooperation. I will do everything within my power to see that this institution is not cited for a lack of institutional control or for being unethical in its cooperation with the NCAA. I think for them to put the institution in a position where the NCAA would cite us for not being cooperative just would be a condition that I couldn't tolerate for the University of North Carolina."