What We Learned: Fall Camp Day One

Ohio State opened fall camp on Monday, officially beginning its anticipated title defense. With two practices available to reporters and interviews afterwards, here are some of the things that caught our eye on a busy day.

It was an action-packed day at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center on Monday, with the true freshmen practicing at 8:30 a.m. and everyone else working at 3 p.m. Here are a few things that stood out on the first day of fall camp.

You’ll know who won the QB job as soon as the Virginia Tech PA announcer finds out.
When quarterbacks coach Tim Beck was asked whether Ohio State might declare a starting quarterback before the end of camp, and his deadpanned, “I wouldn’t count on it” response should tell you all you need to know.

If that doesn’t cut it, here’s what Urban Meyer had to say about the announcement timeline about 10 minutes before Beck was asked: “It’s a little different because they are both established guys,” Meyer said. “Cardale not necessarily, but Cardale has been here a long time now. What is this, his eighth year here? J.T. has played a lot of football. We won’t announce anything until the first guy takes the field against Virginia Tech. That won’t happen.”

Don’t expect any snitches, either, if the players find out prior to Sept. 7. At Big Ten media days, Joshua Perry noted that the team was able to successfully protect the news of Braxton Miller practicing at wide receiver. “When we talk about the culture we have as a team, it’s not just something we say,” Perry said. “It’s legit, it’s real. We were trusted not to tell anyone about that and guys did a pretty fantastic job with it. I think that speaks a lot to what Coach has built with us and the fact that we’re not going to just do something or be the guy to break the news. We’re going to trust each other and we’re going to let things develop as a team and when the time comes, we’ll let things happen.”

Braxton Miller is a night owl.
When Miller was putting in the work with Barrett and Jones to develop as a wide receiver, it often came in the late hours of the day. Barrett said there would be days where he was at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center throwing with Miller until 10:30 p.m., and it sounds like Jones had a similar experience.

“Yeah that guy is weird, man,” Jones said. “He’d call you up at like 8:30, 9 o’clock and be like, ‘Hey can you come throw?’ and I’d be like, ‘Not really, but yeah.’ He’d say pull your car around to the back of the Woody so nobody sees your car in front like a ninja or something, but there were times when he called up managers who were at home to turn on the lights at the indoor. But he’s been working on it for a while. Like Coach Meyer wants to wait to say who is the starting quarterback until they trot out on the field, we kept it the same way.”

Miller’s talent at WR is evident, but there might be growing pains.
Barrett was pretty effusive in his praise of Miller, saying that the former quarterback “broke a couple people off” on the first day of practice after first complimenting his speed. Beck added to that, saying that Miller was “an incredible athlete with great speed.” Jones offered a more blunt assessment of his former position leader. “He looked like his first time playing receiver,” Jones said.

Barrett doesn’t mind having to beat Cardale again.
Barrett already has one win against Jones on his résumé, having defeated the Glenville product in the battle for what was supposed to be the backup role. He said on Monday that he didn’t mind having to do it again. He trailed Jones after spring practice in 2014, but he’s going with the same approach in 2015 that allowed him to pass Jones last fall.

“I feel like the first time we prepared for the backup spot back in the spring of 2014, I was too busy worrying about extra stuff,” Barrett said. “I was thinking too much, and if he made a good play I was like, ‘Well I have to do this. I have to force it or whatever.’ In fall, it was like let me focus on things I can control. That’s the same place I’m in right now – just worry about me and what I can control and do the best I can to help our offense.”

Torrance Gibson is currently and only a quarterback.
That stance will almost certainly have to change if the staff doesn’t plan on redshirting one of its most talented players, but for now the Ohio State coaches are sticking with the mantra that Gibson is solely a signal caller.

“I think people bring it up just because he’s an incredible athlete,” Beck said. “Any time you have a guy who can run and jump like he does, there was always that assumption that a guy can move positions, but there’s no intention of that right now.”

The freshman offensive line is full of large humans.
Sure, many Buckeye fans have known this would be the case since the 2015 recruiting class started to take shape. Kevin Feder is 6-9, 305 pounds. Branden Bowen is 6-7, 320 pounds. Isaiah Prince is 6-7, 305 pounds. Grant Schmidt is 6-6, 300 pounds. Matthew Burrell is 6-4, 300 pounds. Reading that is one thing. Seeing it in person is even more gobsmacking. Those are impressive sizes for seniors, much less true freshmen who (with the exception of the early enrollee Schmidt) were all in high school just three months ago.

If that quintet gets more than one year with offensive line savant Ed Warinner, watch out.

It will be tough, but Meyer wants to see the true freshmen play.
Meyer said yesterday that in a dream world the Buckeyes would have 20 true freshmen play in some capacity because it would mean they recruited well, but history would indicate that’s an unattainable goal – even more so than normal with how many returning starters Ohio State has.

If you’re looking for candidates to play early, Meyer said that cornerback and wide receiver are where you often see the best contributions from young players, with the offensive and defensive lines being the opposite. The three players to get personal shoutouts from Meyer as likely contributors, though, came from a different position group – linebackers Nick Conner, Justin Hilliard and Jerome Baker.

Joshua Perry, defensive end?
Ohio State defensive coordinator Chris Ash is known for his unique defensive looks -- especially on third down -- and he might draw on that experience to help solve the problem of Joey Bosa's one-game absence. In response to a question asking for possible replacements for Bosa, Meyer mentioned the usual suspects (sophomore Jalyn Holmes and redshirt freshmen Sam Hubbard and Darius Slade) before casually throwing out the possibility of also using the 6-4, 250-pound linebacker as a rush end.


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\r\nIt will be tough, but Meyer wants to see the true freshmen play.
\r\nMeyer said yesterday that in a dream world the Buckeyes would have 20 true freshmen play in some capacity because it would mean they recruited well, but history would indicate that’s an unattainable goal – even more so than normal with how many returning starters Ohio State has. \r\n

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\r\nJoshua Perry, defensive end?
\r\nOhio State defensive coordinator Chris Ash is known for his unique defensive looks -- especially on third down -- and he might draw on that experience to help solve the problem of Joey Bosa's one-game absence. In response to a question asking for possible replacements for Bosa, Meyer mentioned the usual suspects (sophomore Jalyn Holmes and redshirt freshmen Sam Hubbard and Darius Slade) before casually throwing out the possibility of also using the 6-4, 250-pound linebacker as a rush end. \r\n

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You’ll know who won the QB job as soon as the Virginia Tech PA announcer finds out.
When quarterbacks coach Tim Beck was asked whether Ohio State might declare a starting quarterback before the end of camp, and his deadpanned, “I wouldn’t count on it” response should tell you all you need to know.

If that doesn’t cut it, here’s what Urban Meyer had to say about the announcement timeline about 10 minutes before Beck was asked: “It’s a little different because they are both established guys,” Meyer said. “Cardale not necessarily, but Cardale has been here a long time now. What is this, his eighth year here? J.T. has played a lot of football. We won’t announce anything until the first guy takes the field against Virginia Tech. That won’t happen.”

Don’t expect any snitches, either, if the players find out prior to Sept. 7. At Big Ten media days, Joshua Perry noted that the team was able to successfully protect the news of Braxton Miller practicing at wide receiver. “When we talk about the culture we have as a team, it’s not just something we say,” Perry said. “It’s legit, it’s real. We were trusted not to tell anyone about that and guys did a pretty fantastic job with it. I think that speaks a lot to what Coach has built with us and the fact that we’re not going to just do something or be the guy to break the news. We’re going to trust each other and we’re going to let things develop as a team and when the time comes, we’ll let things happen.”

Braxton Miller is a night owl.
When Miller was putting in the work with Barrett and Jones to develop as a wide receiver, it often came in the late hours of the day. Barrett said there would be days where he was at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center throwing with Miller until 10:30 p.m., and it sounds like Jones had a similar experience.

“Yeah that guy is weird, man,” Jones said. “He’d call you up at like 8:30, 9 o’clock and be like, ‘Hey can you come throw?’ and I’d be like, ‘Not really, but yeah.’ He’d say pull your car around to the back of the Woody so nobody sees your car in front like a ninja or something, but there were times when he called up managers who were at home to turn on the lights at the indoor. But he’s been working on it for a while. Like Coach Meyer wants to wait to say who is the starting quarterback until they trot out on the field, we kept it the same way.”

Miller’s talent at WR is evident, but there might be growing pains.
Barrett was pretty effusive in his praise of Miller, saying that the former quarterback “broke a couple people off” on the first day of practice after first complimenting his speed. Beck added to that, saying that Miller was “an incredible athlete with great speed.” Jones offered a more blunt assessment of his former position leader. “He looked like his first time playing receiver,” Jones said.

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Barrett doesn’t mind having to beat Cardale again.
Barrett already has one win against Jones on his résumé, having defeated the Glenville product in the battle for what was supposed to be the backup role. He said on Monday that he didn’t mind having to do it again. He trailed Jones after spring practice in 2014, but he’s going with the same approach in 2015 that allowed him to pass Jones last fall.

“I feel like the first time we prepared for the backup spot back in the spring of 2014, I was too busy worrying about extra stuff,” Barrett said. “I was thinking too much, and if he made a good play I was like, ‘Well I have to do this. I have to force it or whatever.’ In fall, it was like let me focus on things I can control. That’s the same place I’m in right now – just worry about me and what I can control and do the best I can to help our offense.”

Torrance Gibson is currently and only a quarterback.
That stance will almost certainly have to change if the staff doesn’t plan on redshirting one of its most talented players, but for now the Ohio State coaches are sticking with the mantra that Gibson is solely a signal caller.

“I think people bring it up just because he’s an incredible athlete,” Beck said. “Any time you have a guy who can run and jump like he does, there was always that assumption that a guy can move positions, but there’s no intention of that right now.”

The freshman offensive line is full of large humans.
Sure, many Buckeye fans have known this would be the case since the 2015 recruiting class started to take shape. Kevin Feder is 6-9, 305 pounds. Branden Bowen is 6-7, 320 pounds. Isaiah Prince is 6-7, 305 pounds. Grant Schmidt is 6-6, 300 pounds. Matthew Burrell is 6-4, 300 pounds. Reading that is one thing. Seeing it in person is even more gobsmacking. Those are impressive sizes for seniors, much less true freshmen who (with the exception of the early enrollee Schmidt) were all in high school just three months ago.

If that quintet gets more than one year with offensive line savant Ed Warinner, watch out.

Jerome Baker and Dremont Jones with Branden Bowen, who is probably thelargest person I've ever seen. pic.twitter.com/29etR92qxj

— Ryan Ginn (@RyanGinnBSB) August 9, 2015

It will be tough, but Meyer wants to see the true freshmen play.
Meyer said yesterday that in a dream world the Buckeyes would have 20 true freshmen play in some capacity because it would mean they recruited well, but history would indicate that’s an unattainable goal – even more so than normal with how many returning starters Ohio State has.

If you’re looking for candidates to play early, Meyer said that cornerback and wide receiver are where you often see the best contributions from young players, with the offensive and defensive lines being the opposite. The three players to get personal shoutouts from Meyer as likely contributors, though, came from a different position group – linebackers Nick Conner, Justin Hilliard and Jerome Baker.

Joshua Perry, defensive end?
Ohio State defensive coordinator Chris Ash is known for his unique defensive looks -- especially on third down -- and he might draw on that experience to help solve the problem of Joey Bosa's one-game absence. In response to a question asking for possible replacements for Bosa, Meyer mentioned the usual suspects (sophomore Jalyn Holmes and redshirt freshmen Sam Hubbard and Darius Slade) before casually throwing out the possibility of also using the 6-4, 250-pound linebacker as a rush end.

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