Helwagen Chat: Dec. 19 Archive

Here are excerpts from Friday's special Free Chat session conducted by Bucknuts.com managing editor Steve Helwagen. The session lasted two hours and had as many as 200 OSU fans participating. Click this free link for a look at the questions and answers.

Here is the archive of Friday's special Chat session, which was opened up to all comers. Typically, Steve Helwagen and Gary Housteau conduct these Chat sessions each week for Bucknuts.com subscribers.

But as a special early holiday gift for OSU fans everywhere, Steve Helwagen conducted a free Chat on Friday. At one point in the two-hour session, we had as many as 125 OSU fanatics crammed into the Chat room. By the time it was over, more than 200 OSU fans had participated at some point in the Chat.

The first hour was moderated, meaning most of the questions and answers are connected on the transcript. The second hour was unmoderated, meaning it was basically a free for all. At that point, we still had 105 people online, so, as you may imagine it became pretty hectic at that point.

At the end, somebody named Rory Nicol came on board. We have no way to verify whether it was truly Rory or not. His presence brought a number of people calling themselves various OSU recruits. We have omitted that part of the transcript. Here are excerpts from Friday's Chat session:

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:00:48 PM)
Hey Ya! We will get started shortly.

Kirk (Dec 19, 2003 2:00:48 PM)
Hi Steve

Kirk (Dec 19, 2003 2:01:26 PM)
I'm going to turn the moderation on... all questions will come to me and we'll try to post as many as possible (also remember during the moderated portion, general discussion posts won't be included)

LloydBraun (Dec 19, 2003 2:01:28 PM)
is Holmes a Terry Glenn clone?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:02:53 PM)
Lloyd, I like Holmes a lot, Same kind of body (slight) but he shares Glenn's slipperiness and ability to make hard catches. Plus, he has that great open field speed of the great ones like Glenn and Galloway. He is similar. He'll need to do it for more than 4-5 games to be in the same league, obviously, but he's getting there.

wadc45 (Dec 19, 2003 2:03:00 PM)
Does Nicol get his first look at TE or DE?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:04:03 PM)
I think tight end. They have Hamby, Irizarry, Caldwell, White, maybe Hoobler and then Rory. With the chance Hoobler could play defense, Nicol may get his first look on offense.

Heater (Dec 19, 2003 2:04:09 PM)
Steve--I have noticed that some players get offered by EVERYONE. Others, like Izzy, get offered by Rutgers, Duke, etc...not exactly powerhouses. Are these players that slip through the cracks or are these players that are not "premier" D-1A players? Should we worry about getting a lot folks like that?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:06:12 PM)
Heater, I am a big believer in looking at which schools offer these prospects. I mean 10 or 20 or 100 sets of eyes are better than one. If, for instance, Miami or USC or Oklahoma is offering a kid, right now, along with OSU, that is the gold standard. But you can't use it as the sole determiner as to whether Bauta or anybody is a quality player or potential contributor. It is just one factor.

rd'sbucks (Dec 19, 2003 2:06:20 PM)
Word on Darius Walker?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:10:04 PM)
Well I talked to him after his game last weekend. He plays at 7:30 Sat. in state title game at Georgia Dome. Has visits set with Stanford, USC and Notre Dame in January. Since then, I saw a report where he replaced USC with Nebraska. He'd have to fit OSU in Jan. 30, maybe. Hope he waits that long to decide. He is a potential great one, I feel. And a good kid, too.

toledobuck (Dec 19, 2003 2:10:14 PM)
Steve, I read that coaches have been recruiting guys saying that OSU plans to open up its offense. Is this true and how important do you see that in landing guys like Fred Davis?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:11:45 PM)
Toledo, I think it is important for the staff to allay the fears of recruits like Davis. Promising recruits you are going to open the offense up and doing it are 2 different things. I'll have to see it first. I don't think they're going to go hog wild next year throwing the ball all over the lot with 2 untested sophs at QB. I just don't see it happening.

ttime (Dec 19, 2003 2:11:55 PM)
Steve, We had quite a few 4 and 5 star kids come through the past couple of weeks please share any updates? Xavier Lee do we really have a chance?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:13:37 PM)
ttime, any updates we have have been on the site. We aren't holding anything back. Yes, they have a shot at Lee, but they have to stay with him and work him. He's been here. Now it's time for Florida State, where he goes 1/9, and Auburn to also make their pitch. Overall, I think OSU is in good-to-great shape on Ginn, Davis, Mitchum, and Nick Patterson.

Kirk (Dec 19, 2003 2:15:07 PM)
News update -- The Miami Herald is reporting that OSU has received a commitment from RB Gartrell Shavers of Miami Springs HS. We're trying to follow up now.

Cincinnatibuck (Dec 19, 2003 2:15:24 PM)
Steve- With the ability of yourself or someone on the Bucknuts staff of watching football a hour or more each week, have you seen a punter other than Sanders that has the potential to get the job done next year.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:15:50 PM)
How about that? I know grades were an issue with Shavers. How does that happen?

Kirk (Dec 19, 2003 2:16:07 PM)
Hopefully Duane will find out :)

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:17:05 PM)
Cintibuck, I honestly don't have the first clue how Tressel intends to execute his most important play next season. Huston is an option, maybe Nugent or Pierce or perhaps A.J. Trapasso, which is making the rounds as a rumored fresh offer today.

LloydBraun (Dec 19, 2003 2:17:13 PM)
steve, is this what we are looking at for our current OL and the ones we hope to committ? Rehring- RT, Person- RG, Skinner- LT, Bauta- LG, Mitchum- C, looks like a solid line if we can get Bauta and Mitchum, I don't think Kyles future is on defense.

Guest (Dec 19, 2003 2:17:16 PM)
what is the scoop with Mitchum at this point?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:19:27 PM)
Yes, that's a great line and you haven't mentioned Zuttah, who also reportedly loves OSU, and potentially Carlos Feliciano. As for exact positions, that takes time to sort out.

JOEbagOdoughnuts (Dec 19, 2003 2:19:39 PM)
any chance seth gorney signs with osu now with the open schollie?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:20:41 PM)
interesting, I had not heard that he had even set up an OSU visit. Maybe we should call him (VBG)

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:20:57 PM)
JOEbagO, wow, that's a great question about Gorney. If I was OSU, I owe Alford no special courtesy, to speak of. I keep calling the kid and hope they can turn him around. They are definitely in need of a big. Dispatch had them looking at a couple guys in N.J. tonight. How convenient that they'll be there with the Seton Hall trip.

Guest (Dec 19, 2003 2:21:17 PM)
Steve....I thought Tovar would have made a nice replacement for Coach Snyder.....are there any leaders for LB coach at this point? Also.....is Snyder going to stay through the Fiesta Bowl or is he packing up already.

sharp_ii (Dec 19, 2003 2:21:28 PM)
how does osu stack up to setan hall?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:23:23 PM)
Well, not as well as they did before Sylvester's stupid elbow. You know in games they win he's usually good for 6-10 pts. They will miss that. OSU MUST defend the perimeter or this 5-10 kid Barrett will bury them. Couldn't get it done Wed. against Furman. OSU with depleted roster will need to slow the game down. They need Sullinger to assert himself and get 18-22. Stockman will need to be in the same range, too.

buckeyefan47 (Dec 19, 2003 2:23:34 PM)
steve, good to chat again. I would like to thank you for all the hard work that you and the other guys do for us bucknuts out there. What is your take on the columbus dispatch reporting MoC wants to come back? any truth are just getting us excited? Thanks again boss, Go Bucks!

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:24:43 PM)
47, I have been so busy I have not read the paper (I know, that sounds like Tressel saying he didn't read the Times article). I'd have to find that story and read it. That could just be posturing. Until he drops his suit against the NFL (or loses it), assume he'll be playing in that league next year.

bull (Dec 19, 2003 2:25:22 PM)
steve , do you think haw has a chance to unseat lydell as starting tailback?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:26:19 PM)
Let me add on Clarett, I would have no qualms whatsoever with his return. The kid has been to hell and back (admittedly, much by his own doing). Would be great, provided they have success. If the new line fails to block for him, watch out.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:27:12 PM)
bull, as for Haw, yes, he could give Lydell a real run. I spoke to a guy who follows this stuff real closely today. He likes Haw as being in the 210 range with speed and good-to-great instincts. Lydell has the experience. he just needs to stay healthy. He is thisclose to being a good RB at times. At least they will have options next year.

Tatum (Dec 19, 2003 2:27:42 PM)
Steve, I read where Rory Nicol said that he was told that Chad Hoobler is coming in as a linebacker. I saw Hoobler play a couple of times, do you think he has the foot speed to compete at LB at tOSU, or is he destined for a line position on either offense or defense?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:29:07 PM)
Tatum, my tape on Hoobler hasn't arrived yet, so I will reserve judgment. When I first looked at him, I thought he was Redgie Arden. There is some resemblance and Hoobler definitely has a I-A body. Now they need to figure out where he will be best served and best used. He is a great kid (a prototype Tressel recruit). He'll make a difference here, in my mind. Could be another Hartsock type.

sears3820 (Dec 19, 2003 2:29:13 PM)
Steve, where do you see some of the seniors taken in this year's NFL draft?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:32:45 PM)
I got booted

Kirk (Dec 19, 2003 2:33:11 PM)
Steve, the last question was from sears3820, asking "Where do you see some of the seniors taken in this year's NFL draft?"

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:35:10 PM)
I answered the NFL question once and got booted. Here goes again: Krenzel (late), McMullen (late or FA), Jenkins (late first or early 2nd), Step (first OL from OSU taken because of versatility, C or G), Clarke and Olivea (very late or FA), Smith (top 5 or 10, but he just fell a notch because the QB who didn't come here from Findlay just declared), Scott (late first if he tests well, 2nd or 3rd if not), Reynolds (very late or FA), Allen (3rd or 4th), Anderson (4th or 5th), Sander (late or FA). Gamble, if he comes out, late first or early second. Reecie, mid-first to mid-2nd

daytonbuck (Dec 19, 2003 2:35:24 PM)
Can Louis Irizarry play in the bowl game? Will he and Hamby be starting next year? Also, what about Clarett?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:37:39 PM)
dayton, Tressel said he has not decided if Irizarry will play. May depend on athletic dept. policy. He has missed 3 games I believe. When they open in 2 TE sets, yes, they would likely both be on the field. Not sure what you want to know about Clarett. It is my belief if he gets an affirmative ruling in court, he will be in the NFL. If not, signs are strong he will be back at OSU and starting at tailback (unless he screws up 10 more times, stay tuned).

rj (Dec 19, 2003 2:38:00 PM)
Steve - The Fiesta Bowl hype has been pretty quite. Infact, it's too quite! Is the team getting pumped for this game, or should we expect a lackluster effort because it's not the NC game.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:41:06 PM)
rj, great question. That is the $64,000 question. They had the whole world in their hands and let it slip away with a BAD showing at Michigan. So you have to wonder what their rationale is for playing this game. Then, everybody had them playing Miami, and I'm sure they would have gotten up for that. But this is a total set-up against the nation's hottest team (apologies to Michigan, LSU and USC). K-State will have the fan support, not so much OSU (although lots of West Coasters will be there). It is a sticky situation. Will need to play a great game to win, in my opinion. In fact, and I never do this as most of you know, I will probably pick K-State. Maybe that answers your question.

DOPE (Dec 19, 2003 2:41:29 PM)
Can you please update us regarding the mysterious Louis Holmes (DE) from Florida at Maine Prep School? Does he really exist?

Kirk (Dec 19, 2003 2:42:54 PM)
(While we have no photographic evidence of Holmes's existence, he is at least on the roster here: http://www.bridgtonacademy.org/athletics/footros.htm

Kirk (Dec 19, 2003 2:42:57 PM)

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:43:58 PM)
DOPE, he allegedly exists. There was a big groundswell around this kid and all kinds of news about him when his visit was on the books for last weekend. Then he didn't visit and it's been operation shutdown in terms of news on Holmes. Duane has tried 100 times to find out from his coach in Maine what happened. We do not honestly know if OSU canceled or he didn't make it because of the weather (East Coast did get hit hard, if you watched the NFL games last weekend). I think, more likely, OSU has visits from some good-to-great prep DL in Jan. (Young, Harvey, Hall, Gholston, Barrow, Abdallah and Zellner), they probably just put Holmes on the back burner. That happens sometimes.

raven284 (Dec 19, 2003 2:44:19 PM)
Steve---Watching the season progress, it seemed as if Nugent wasn't kicking the ball quite as far as he used to, was I imagining this? Or was there a reason for the shorter kicks?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:45:20 PM)
raven284, I honestly did not notice that. I'm not sure if field position was a big issue or not. Michigan went 80 yards or more 3 times and 60 or more 5 times for TDs.

afh_98 (Dec 19, 2003 2:45:41 PM)
I know it's all guess work in a way (especially this far out), but how do you project the Bucks to finish next year, in both conference and BCS. I know anything can happen, and it's putting the cart before the horse, but...;-)

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:48:16 PM)
afh, good question, I think OSU is in the top three next year in the Big Ten with Michigan and maybe Iowa. I think Purdue, PSU, MSU, Wisconsin, NW (bowl really helps them) and maybe Minnesota will be in the middle group (all lose a lot, PSU keeps Mills and moves up into this group). Indiana and Illinois clearly bringing up the rear. BCS for OSU comes down to 3 games (at N.C. State, at Iowa and Michigan). At MSU and Purdue also no bargain.

ncinthenext3 (Dec 19, 2003 2:48:33 PM)
Hi Steve, Looking at some of the offensive line recruits, do you feel that the 'mold' that we are looking at is going away from the massive body to guys who can run? Maybe we can run some screens or sweeps?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:50:21 PM)
ncinthenext3, the old athletic OL and run the screens and sweeps argument rears its head for the 199th time on this site. Yes, I guess that is what they WANT to do. They inherited a Cooper I formation team with 320 pound linemen, so that limited what they could do. They had the nation's best I back in Clarett and won a national title with him. Didn't quite get as far this year. Yes, that seems to be the direction.

tbair28 (Dec 19, 2003 2:50:42 PM)
Where do you see Marcus Freeman plaing at tOSU? From sources close to his brother, I have heard that he may lose some weight and go to safety?!?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:52:39 PM)
tbair28, that is interesting, Wayne listed Freeman at 6-2, 235 this year. OSU has safeties (Salley, Mitchell, Everett and Whitner) and LBs (you know the list) out the ying yang. Maybe he is just looking for a way to get on the field. He doesn't want to take the Cie Grant route and play 6 positions before finally mastering one in his last year.

buckalum01 (Dec 19, 2003 2:52:55 PM)
Steve, how much of our O-line woes can be traced to Bohlman? Is there any chance we see some coaching moves after the bowl or NLOID?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:55:31 PM)
buckalum01, I don't know what to say. Bollman was hailed as a line coach when they won and this year, when they can't move the ball anywhere, he is taking the hit for the line play and for the offense, which he coordinates in name only. I like Coach Bollman. I think he is a pretty good people person. They are recruiting several good-to-great OL this year. Let's see how he does with his people in place, I guess. There may well be some staff changes, but I don't see Tressel sacking Jim Bollman, if that is what you are suggesting. If anybody leaves it will probably be of their own accord (i.e. Snyder or dantonio for "better" jobs)

brutusbuckeye27 (Dec 19, 2003 2:55:40 PM)
Steve what players have you heard of having good bowl practice performances?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 2:57:39 PM)
27, I got to watch one day of practice and young guys were wearing purple jerseys with K-State nos. as scout teamers, so there really isn't much I can say from what I've seen. Names I've heard as coming on include Zwick, Troy Smith (starring as Ell Roberson, one guy said "He may be even better than Roberson" ... wow), Doug Datish (glad to finally hear that), Joel Penton at DT and David Patterson at DE (I know, that seems to be a switch).

joey (Dec 19, 2003 2:58:04 PM)
Hi Steve, who do you see starting at the linebackers and safety spots next year?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:01:21 PM)
joey, wow, you don't ask easy ??? do you? That will all be sorted out in the spring. If I had to guess, Hawk will stay where he is at (WLB). Carpenter would likely be at the SLB. That leaves MLB to sort out between Schlegel, Kerr and D'Andrea. I would give Schlegel the edge on experience, especially since D'Andrea is hurt. At safety, Salley at FS (may move to strong, but they are almost interchangeable) and Whitner at SS. Mitchell and Everett would be the backups and play in nickel situations, if I had to guess.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:04:43 PM)
On the LBs and safeties question, two more dynamics: Again, they will play a lot of nickel, so all of the safeties will play. Not sure where that same dynamic leaves the glut of MLBs, who usually come out. But also expect those LBs to rotate through the various positions for rest, etc.

SmellyCat (Dec 19, 2003 3:01:30 PM)
What do we think the odds are of Clarett winning his suit with the NFL?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:02:51 PM)
SmellyCat, he got a good draw with the lady judge, who favors individual rights. But the NFL is standing on the premise that they can flout antitrust since the age restriction is part of its collective bargaining agreement with the players. Can a CBA work against a guy's right to work in that field? That's what she will apparently decide.

youngbuck (Dec 19, 2003 3:03:31 PM)
Steve - True or False... 1. The Bucks would be playing for the national championship if Maurice Clarett were still with the team, 2. Schlegel will start at linebacker next year, 3. Ginn and Davis select the Bucks.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:05:29 PM)
youngbuck, 1. True (they would not have lost to Wisconsin, certainly, and they may have done better at Michigan as well), 2. True, looks to me that Schlegel has the inside track on experience over Kerr and injury over D'Andrea. 3. True, Ginn and Davis select OSU (that ain't cut and dried, but looks good.)

Delly (Dec 19, 2003 3:05:57 PM)
Hi,can you tell us out of all these recruits and commits which ones would ones have a chance at seeing playing time next year and how big a factor it is? My guess would be Fred Davis for sure.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:08:19 PM)
Delly, Ginn if Gamble leaves would move right to the front of the list and compete with Underwood opposite Fox. Or they would move Fox to safety. Davis could draw in. Name OSU's receivers after Holmes and .... maybe Roy Hall. Keep thinking. OK Bam Childress. Anybody else leap to mind? Doubt any of the freshman OL start, but 1-2 could be in two-deep. Freeman could be a special teams player, certainly.

Kirk (Dec 19, 2003 3:08:25 PM)
After this question, we're going to turn off the moderation and go to an unmoderated chat. There are many questions that were sent in that we didn't get a chance to get to; if yours hasn't been post it, feel free to repost it for Steve once the moderation is off

go go (Dec 19, 2003 3:08:58 PM)
steve i have had a problem with the fact coach obrien after losing out on the center gorney that chose iowa he didnt persure aaron agnew whom all recriuiting indexs have rated high at center and and has big ten size with supposedly great moves around the basket. there r no quality big men coming out of ohio for at least the next two years and now bass is tranfering. agnew in the mean time signed with iowa state is there any chance of us maybe now getting in on him because our center situation looks bleak.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:11:26 PM)
go go, that's fine., that's your opinion on Agnew. Iowa State, to my knowledge, was his best offer. Maybe in O'Brien's mind, Agnew is even a bigger reach than Bass. I have never seen Agnew play, but I have seen him in person. yes, he''s big, but the names that leap out me on him are Oliver Miller or Tractor Traylor. Those kind of guys are limited, in my mind. I trust O'Brien to pick who he wants ... as long as there are no more Marinchicks, Basses or Jernigans (VBG).

t-val (Dec 19, 2003 3:11:30 PM)
hey steve, I am kind of nervous that Ted Ginn Jr. and Fred Davis havent commited yet. I dont get why everyone said they are a for sure thing. Whatd o you think?

Kirk (Dec 19, 2003 3:11:50 PM)
(Moderation is now off)...

buckalum01 (Dec 19, 2003 3:11:54 PM)
what about D'andrea to DE? could it happen to free up room at the LB spots AND get the best players on the field?

afh_98 (Dec 19, 2003 3:12:01 PM)
T-val, me too, especially regarding USC

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:12:13 PM)
t-val, I think they end up at OSU. Call it a gut feeling. USC is great, but it is on the other end of the world.

Kirk (Dec 19, 2003 3:12:17 PM)
(Steve won't be able to get to every question, but he'll pick some and try to answer what he can)

Hubbard (Dec 19, 2003 3:12:22 PM)
As a note to The freshman who will play, Ginn will play next year, it's just a matter of where he wants to. His videos are amazing

cheller1159 (Dec 19, 2003 3:12:25 PM)
If we do not open the offense up are we at risk of losing some great offensive recruits in the future

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:12:29 PM)
steve....i thought tovar was in line to replace snyder at some point...now that isnt going to happen....any thoughts on the next lb coach

ncinthenext3 (Dec 19, 2003 3:12:33 PM)
Nice logo Hubbard!

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:12:39 PM)
buckalum, D'Andrea to DE? Let's get him healthy first and see where he's at.

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:12:51 PM)
Ginn can do whatever he wants, let him drive the team bus if he wants

Hubbard (Dec 19, 2003 3:13:00 PM)
Hey it is Friday ;)

afh_98 (Dec 19, 2003 3:13:08 PM)
How about FB status next year, where do we stand?

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:13:09 PM)
and its five oclock somewhere

cheller1159 (Dec 19, 2003 3:13:14 PM)
I have seen Aaron Agnew play a number of times and he will not big a quality big man int he big ten

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:13:15 PM)
DiHard, sad to see Tovar go to Army. If he had waited 2-3 weeks he could have been full-time here. Great great great guy. Oh well, maybe he'll be back here another time.

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:13:20 PM)
5:00? I always went by noon

t-val (Dec 19, 2003 3:13:27 PM)
Do you think Brandon Smith has much of a future at Ohio State, I go to the same high school as him

bucknutrobb69 (Dec 19, 2003 3:13:27 PM)
What do u think of RS fresh. Devin Jordan?

bucknutrobb69 (Dec 19, 2003 3:13:29 PM)
what do u think of RS Fresh. Devin Jordan?

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:13:33 PM)
my thoughts exactly steve...thanks

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:13:34 PM)
afh, FB as in fullback? Joe, Schnittker and Dionte Johnson (probably redshirts(.

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:13:35 PM)
Who do you see starting on the O-Line next year, Steve?

afh_98 (Dec 19, 2003 3:14:05 PM)
Oh, I didn't realize Joe and Schnittker were back - thanks!

laker79 (Dec 19, 2003 3:14:06 PM)
steve - if for some reason the bucks can't get X. Lee or Reid, how does Szep look as a backup to Smith and Zwick?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:14:09 PM)
t-val, I like Brandon Smith. Has a Big Ten body. Good to great play maker at Euclid. Good competition there, too. Good grades, good kid, good pick up.

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:14:11 PM)
Would Tressel be bringing in all these receiver recruits if he didn't plan on getting them the ball??

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:14:28 PM)
buck, I like Devin Jordan. Been dinged up this year. Needs to have a great spring IMO

Hubbard (Dec 19, 2003 3:14:34 PM)
Laker don't forget abotu Boeckman

cheller1159 (Dec 19, 2003 3:14:35 PM)

ncinthenext3 (Dec 19, 2003 3:14:37 PM)
I thought I had heard that Szep had left the team

likwid82 (Dec 19, 2003 3:14:53 PM)
Hey Steve, your thoughts on Kerr and Schlegal and where they fit into the mix next season?

afh_98 (Dec 19, 2003 3:14:56 PM)
Why not bring in the WR recruits if for nothing else than to keep them from TSUN!

Cincinnatibuck (Dec 19, 2003 3:14:57 PM)
Glass City Buck and Toledo Buck - How's Fred Davis looking on the hardwood? Really wish he wouldn't be taken a chance for injury. Rogers looks like they could have a long season.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:15:04 PM)
Glass, OL next year, Mangold at C, Sims at LT, Kne at one guard, then rest between Barton, Schafer, Datish, Coleman and Downing.

t-val (Dec 19, 2003 3:15:19 PM)
do we still have a shot at Robert Ried and what are the odds that we get Xavier Lee?

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:15:31 PM)
No chance with Reid. Does Frost start at one of the DE spots next year?

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:15:38 PM)
does anyone find it strange that shavers would commit to the bucks without visiting.....or did i miss his visit?

Hubbard (Dec 19, 2003 3:15:41 PM)

laker79 (Dec 19, 2003 3:15:43 PM)
And why aren't we after Brohm?

osu (Dec 19, 2003 3:15:45 PM)

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:15:45 PM)
I haven't been following basketball, sorry

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:15:47 PM)
Shavers doesn't have an offer

Hubbard (Dec 19, 2003 3:15:50 PM)
Lee very very small

cheller1159 (Dec 19, 2003 3:15:53 PM)
Steve - If we don't open our offense up will we start to lose some blue chip offensive players

cheller1159 (Dec 19, 2003 3:16:02 PM)
recruiting that is

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:16:03 PM)
likwid, regarding LBs. I think Schlegel with an extra year and an extra spring here has the edge on Kerr. D'Andrea needs to get healthy and get back.

starbucknuts2 (Dec 19, 2003 3:16:11 PM)
what player will call the defensive signals next year?

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:16:19 PM)
Schlegel, IMO

sharp_ii (Dec 19, 2003 3:16:20 PM)
according to rivals.com shavers did not commit

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:16:29 PM)
Davis is playing basketball? I thought he was going to enroll early wherever he commits?

Cincinnatibuck (Dec 19, 2003 3:16:40 PM)
has anyone other than the mlb called plays

afh_98 (Dec 19, 2003 3:16:51 PM)
I hope we don't have a two-headed monster at QB next year - may the best man win, PERIOD!

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:16:54 PM)
t-val, I think Reid is a long shot (25 percent) or less to even visit, let alone sign. Lee probably 30 percent chance., seems to like Auburn.

ncinthenext3 (Dec 19, 2003 3:16:57 PM)
I don't think we can even verify if Shavers has an offer as yet

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:16:58 PM)
bellisari called them from the sam katz freshman year

observant (Dec 19, 2003 3:17:16 PM)
shouldve offered hoyer

t-val (Dec 19, 2003 3:17:20 PM)
who is shavers and what position doe she play??

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:17:20 PM)
If Kurelic says Shavers doesn't have an offer at this point, he doesn't have an offer

t-val (Dec 19, 2003 3:17:23 PM)

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:17:32 PM)
DiHard, yes strange that Shavers verbals without a visit. I think he has been offered, but it may be contingent on grades. Shavers is an RB.

buckalum01 (Dec 19, 2003 3:17:35 PM)
Steve, for what it's worth I was never raining praise on Coach Bollman. I agree that he has good people skills, but it seems like his lines always find a way to underachieve- even during the NC year. We just had the nation's best RB in the backfield. If we have similar problems with this position next year, would changes to the O-line (coaching and otherwise) be more likely than any this year?

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:17:41 PM)
for a second i thought we had a terry glenn question tval

Hubbard (Dec 19, 2003 3:17:56 PM)
Shavers a RB from Dade county

likwid82 (Dec 19, 2003 3:18:00 PM)
good question buckalum

afh_98 (Dec 19, 2003 3:18:00 PM)
Good one, Di Hard!

ncinthenext3 (Dec 19, 2003 3:18:05 PM)
Steve, looking past this season into next - boy are the Bucks going to be young. Can you tell us how you feel about that and who you feel is the QB heir apparent?

go bucks (Dec 19, 2003 3:18:05 PM)
needs a new offensive cordinator

Hubbard (Dec 19, 2003 3:18:09 PM)
Won the Dade rushign title

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:18:24 PM)
starbucknuts, probably one of the LBs, Hawk maybe, since MLB comes in and goes out. I guess it was Reynolds this past year. Usually its MLB, but that guy seemed to shuttle with nickel man.

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:18:26 PM)
Shavers...his name should be Shakers!

st.pete.bucki (Dec 19, 2003 3:18:30 PM)
is tressel going to play both smith and zwick ?

t-val (Dec 19, 2003 3:18:37 PM)
what are the odds of us landing kyle mitchum and or leon hart

laker79 (Dec 19, 2003 3:18:40 PM)
steve - any chance of m. bush transferring, since he is 3rd at QB at L-ville and it looks like Brohm may be headed to U of L

osub4me (Dec 19, 2003 3:18:43 PM)
who plays qb next year?

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:18:48 PM)

go bucks (Dec 19, 2003 3:18:51 PM)

laker79 (Dec 19, 2003 3:18:56 PM)
jim otis?

likwid82 (Dec 19, 2003 3:19:02 PM)

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:19:04 PM)
good one laker! lol

observant (Dec 19, 2003 3:19:35 PM)
yo anybody see the chat with Ginn on ESPN? His idol...Charles Woodson. His bestfriend...Pierre Woods

observant (Dec 19, 2003 3:19:45 PM)
doesnt sound good for the Bucks

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:19:51 PM)
just got booted, repeat any ???

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:19:59 PM)
observant, are you being serious?

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:19:59 PM)
what are you talkin?

observant (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:04 PM)

ncinthenext3 (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:04 PM)
Bush really made a great move going to Lville. Kind of like Prescott BUrgess playing safety at scrotUM. Bahhhh

Hubbard (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:04 PM)
Ginn has said in the past he plays liek Woodson th emost, but looks up to him the least

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:06 PM)
full of bologna

osub4me (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:06 PM)
both ohio gentleman!!!

BABuckeye (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:13 PM)
What's up with Ohio State and Pennsylvania recruiting. This is the most action we have had in that state in 20years. Is Ohio State finally giving Pennslvania talent the same priority Michigan does?

Seabus (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:15 PM)
If Fred Davis decides to come to OSU, do you see him playing immediately?? What about Ginn?

afh_98 (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:17 PM)
Steve, any chance of 2-headed monster @QB position next year?

Guest (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:19 PM)
Who do you see as this years A.J. Hawk of the recruitng class (great player, not as highly publicized)?

observant (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:19 PM)
go look at it, him and lemming i believe

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:22 PM)
I saw the Lemming chat, but we're not in trouble for Ginn

Hubbard (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:33 PM)
This is the craziest chat ever! AHhhhhhhhhhhh

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:37 PM)
the penn. recruiting has to be linked to joe pa

cheller1159 (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:39 PM)
Do we need to open our offense up not to lose some blue-chip offensive recruits -STEVE

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:39 PM)
Agreed Hubbard! lol

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:41 PM)
smitdog; i agree

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:20:47 PM)
BA, yes, OSU is all over Pa. Michigan has feasted on Pa. for a while, so why shouldn't OSU. It's obvious PSU isn't going to get it done.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:21:18 PM)
Seabus, Davis could be in two-deep and Ginn might start if Gamble leaves.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:21:41 PM)
afh, yes, good chance Zwick and Smith will split time. They need to know which one will stand tall when bullets are really flying in a game.

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:21:41 PM)
Any word on Duane's computer?

likwid82 (Dec 19, 2003 3:21:46 PM)
Steve, looking at our present committs, who is most likely contributor next season in your opinion?

st.pete.bucki (Dec 19, 2003 3:21:50 PM)
davis and ginn both will be buckeyes

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:21:52 PM)
is the bobby bowden award the funniest thing you have ever heard of......the first winner is....marlon jackson

OSUbuck (Dec 19, 2003 3:22:02 PM)
Steve- What do you see as the position of most pressing need this recruiting season?

buck in lll (Dec 19, 2003 3:22:11 PM)
Steve: What about a scholarship for a punter this year Tranpaso?

Hubbard (Dec 19, 2003 3:22:11 PM)
Dihard huh? what is that

ncinthenext3 (Dec 19, 2003 3:22:18 PM)
DI Hard.....hilarious

Seabus (Dec 19, 2003 3:22:20 PM)
I do think it is crazy how many Pa recruits don't even have Penn St on their lists. So much talent in that area that if Penn St was ever able to get a good recruiter in there, they could be scary.

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:22:20 PM)
what's the bobby bowden award?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:22:27 PM)
cheller, they will not open the offense just so they can recruit. They'll open it if it gives them the best chance to win and, most importantly,the QBs show they won't throw costly game turning picks.

WOHBuckeye (Dec 19, 2003 3:22:36 PM)
the winner will get a free set of shoes, right?

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:22:41 PM)

laker79 (Dec 19, 2003 3:22:55 PM)
steve - whatever happened to R.J. Coleman? I know Tressel moved him to OG, but the guy was a former HS All-American I think...was it a situation of him not panning out at TE or bigger needs on OL? And where do you see Stan White settling in?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:22:57 PM)
BlueChip, Duane's computer should be fixed. he should be back on boards today or tomorrow as he has time.

st.pete.bucki (Dec 19, 2003 3:22:57 PM)
who cares, bobby who?

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:22:59 PM)
Steve; who else will come to OSU?

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:23:03 PM)
its the fellowship of christian athletes award named after the classy bobby bowden. its an annual award presented b4 the nc game

afh_98 (Dec 19, 2003 3:23:03 PM)
Yeah, and PSU used to be LB University. Seems like it will be OSU's title now. Along with CB University!

Hubbard (Dec 19, 2003 3:23:23 PM)

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:23:25 PM)
Thanks, Steve.

floyd (Dec 19, 2003 3:23:35 PM)
Steve, what are your expections this next year compared to this past year? Also, thanks for your time.

rabbit (Dec 19, 2003 3:23:36 PM)
Steve, I just got on so sorry if this was asked. Are you planning to have a get together in Tempe like last year? That was fun. Thanks!

BABuckeye (Dec 19, 2003 3:23:36 PM)
Steve, who's the next PA. recruit to go Ohio States way?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:23:44 PM)
laker79, heard great things about Coleman. He will be in the mix. Not sure about White. Charles Babb loves him, but he just seems to be a tweener.

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:23:52 PM)
Will Frost start at one of the DE spots next year?? I'm excited to see him on the field.

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:24:24 PM)
steve....please tell me that you have seen someone other than mo hall practicing kick returns....no offense to mo.

gmsbears86 (Dec 19, 2003 3:24:25 PM)
that would be great if coleman was actually up to 295 like person said

ncinthenext3 (Dec 19, 2003 3:24:28 PM)
I would like to see Maupin get on the field

raven284 (Dec 19, 2003 3:24:30 PM)
Why do big recruits like Ginn and Davis wait so long to commit, when they are pretty sure of their choice? Knowing Ginn and Davis are in the class might draw in other big recruits, so wouldn't commiting early help the situation?

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:24:33 PM)
Steve, if this year's Defensive Line was a 10, how do you see next year's line stacking up?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:24:42 PM)
youngbuck, some names I would see them adding to this class: Davis, Mitchum, Bauta, Zuttah (maybe), Barrow, Ginn, Patterson and 2-3 others probably.

jblum (Dec 19, 2003 3:24:50 PM)
Steve- Given the glamour and the style of offense and lack of depth, why can't we get a blue-chip running back in here- any second tiers like Bradley Glatthar worth bringing in?

st.pete.bucki (Dec 19, 2003 3:25:24 PM)
buckeyes have a good thing going in fla. they need to keep hitting it hard down here.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:25:28 PM)
floyd, expectations next year must be tempered with a new QB, new OL and new DL. Probably top 3 in Big Ten 9-2 overall

Kirk (Dec 19, 2003 3:25:37 PM)
NEWS FLASH! Strange day. JJHuddle just e-mailed me, saying that he talked to A.J. Trapasso's dad, and Trapasso will be a Buckeye. Trapasso will be graduating early. Didn't specify more than that, but we'll follow up.

cheller1159 (Dec 19, 2003 3:25:41 PM)
Do you think if we had a RB like Quincy WIlson of WVU would things of been different this year

OSUbuck (Dec 19, 2003 3:25:47 PM)
Steve- Does OSU have any visits set this weekend or is it a quite period?

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:25:48 PM)
awesome news, Kirk

ncinthenext3 (Dec 19, 2003 3:25:50 PM)
wow, another one

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:26:06 PM)
rabbit, would love to do a get together in Tempe, maybe 30th at McDuffies at 6 p.m. to watch OSU-UMBC basketball. We will see.

floyd (Dec 19, 2003 3:26:20 PM)
great news, this kid did it ALL for Pickerington

Seabus (Dec 19, 2003 3:26:24 PM)
I just went and looked at that Penna linebacker, James Bryant's, video clips. If we can land that guy, he could be a monster. The clips are mostly of him at fullback and he is just running folks over.

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:26:25 PM)
Congrats to AJ!

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:26:25 PM)
man...you read their emails....but ignore mine.... ;)

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:26:32 PM)

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:26:38 PM)
lol DiHard

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:26:48 PM)
BlueChip, I like Frost a lot. Star during preseason gave people fits. I see Fraser and Kudla starting. But he and Patterson will play and probably Richardson, too.

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:27:00 PM)
Could the X-man start, if he came to us? Or would't Tressel do that?

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:27:06 PM)
Maybe the DE spot isn

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:27:09 PM)

afh_98 (Dec 19, 2003 3:27:11 PM)
FYI - just returned from overnight trip to Phoenix. Arrived in OSU sweatshirt and received nothing but POSITIVE feedback on OSU fans last year!

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:27:12 PM)
Great news on Trapasso, great kid !

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:27:23 PM)
Maybe the DE cupboard is not as bare as some think.

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:27:32 PM)
sounds like jt's type of kicker....athletic

osub4me (Dec 19, 2003 3:27:44 PM)
what about white as a de?

laker79 (Dec 19, 2003 3:27:48 PM)
Is 2004 the year Mike Roberts cracks the 2-deep at DB? Still wondering where this guy came from

cheller1159 (Dec 19, 2003 3:27:56 PM)

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:28:00 PM)
raven, they wait because they want to take those visits and getwined and dined. Plus, they may be favoring OSU but they want to make positive. Nothing wrong with that.

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:28:01 PM)
Up North

rd'sbucks (Dec 19, 2003 3:28:03 PM)
is trapasso a preferred walk-on or a schollie?

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:28:03 PM)
Roberts is tiny.

osub4me (Dec 19, 2003 3:28:09 PM)
stan white jr.

claytonbuckfan (Dec 19, 2003 3:28:28 PM)
Steve, Have you seen any film yet on Javon Ringer ,a running back at Dayton Chaminade Julienne? I saw him play a couple of times this fall and he was very impressive against good competition. Are the Bucks aware of him and do they like him?

gmsbears86 (Dec 19, 2003 3:28:32 PM)
trapasso isnt getting a scholarship is he?

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:28:42 PM)
steve- any predictions on the Nebraska Coaching fiasco....?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:28:48 PM)
smitdog, probably back down to a 6 or 7 with that DL, But great thing is LBs and DBs should be 8's or 9's, right?

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:29:02 PM)
Really? That low, huh? Thanks Steve.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:29:18 PM)
OSUbuck, no visits this weekend, everybody going home, quiet period begins Mon. I believe.

laker79 (Dec 19, 2003 3:29:21 PM)
yeah, and along the lines of Nebraska, any news on Delbert Ferguson? Any new offers, or still Syracuse and Nebraska?

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:29:28 PM)
I agree on the LBs and DBs

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:29:32 PM)
who's gonna play tackle besides Patterson? Green?

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:29:45 PM)

Seabus (Dec 19, 2003 3:29:46 PM)
Pitcock will, he's a beast

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:29:47 PM)
cotton, maupin

buckeyeguy (Dec 19, 2003 3:29:50 PM)
will Whitner step in when/if Gamble leaves early?

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:29:52 PM)
ahhh yeah forgot about him

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:29:52 PM)

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:30:00 PM)
ginn would

t-val (Dec 19, 2003 3:30:04 PM)
hey steve, what are our chanes of landing estopanin

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:30:04 PM)
yeah he was a beast when he got on the field

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:30:05 PM)

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:30:09 PM)
anybody hear much about Richardson?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:30:14 PM)
osub4me, white too small for DE, IMO

Seabus (Dec 19, 2003 3:30:22 PM)
Steve, Whitner looks like a CB to me, why does the coaching staff see him at Safety

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:30:25 PM)
laker79, not sure if Mike Roberts will ever crack the 2-deep

galionbuck (Dec 19, 2003 3:30:49 PM)
most glaring weakness on Off this year - poor vision by RBs, bad run blocking, or injuries to MO and Flydell

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:30:54 PM)
between Pitcock and Patterson and the guys behind them, I think we'll be fine

likwid82 (Dec 19, 2003 3:30:59 PM)
Steve, if Tress could get one guy to committ right now who would he want? Is there a kid that he absolutely loves?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:31:02 PM)
clayton, I thnk grades are holding Ringer back right now.

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:31:05 PM)
Good question Seabus...I'd love to see Whitner and Ginn (HS teammates) starting at CB in 2005 together.

afh_98 (Dec 19, 2003 3:31:13 PM)
Glass City - Lancaster or not? Just curious.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:31:13 PM)
no idea on Trapasso, this all coming together real quickly.

buckeye59 (Dec 19, 2003 3:31:13 PM)
saw pitcock quite often in hs. He had no technique at all and still was a beast. Watch next year if healthy.

BABuckeye (Dec 19, 2003 3:31:24 PM)
Steve whats the word on a punter next year?

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:31:30 PM)

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:31:31 PM)
I can't wait to see Hiley in action.

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:31:38 PM)
steve_ anything to my theory that maybe jt practices his running backs a little to physically? would explain two years of injuries

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:31:38 PM)
I thought he (Pitcock) looked pretty good this year in relief of D. Scott.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:31:49 PM)
Glass City, tackles would be Patterson, Green, Pitcock, Penton, Maupin and Cotton, by my count.,

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:31:50 PM)
I can't wait to see everybody in action

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:32:02 PM)
Its been so long

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:32:07 PM)

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:32:14 PM)
Will Gonzo make an impact anywhere next year?

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:32:26 PM)
only 14 more days youngbuck_9

afh_98 (Dec 19, 2003 3:32:31 PM)
I am sad - looking very much forward to the Fiesta, but am already counting down for next year!

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:32:34 PM)
buckeyeguy, Whitner would be an option at CB, certainly. They like him at safety as well, obviously.

osub4me (Dec 19, 2003 3:32:39 PM)
we need a solid running back with decisiveness,vision and explosion. tell me who fits

buckeye59 (Dec 19, 2003 3:32:40 PM)
Let's hope they are ready for action.

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:32:46 PM)
where is Hiley going to end up?

reality buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:32:52 PM)
susan z is a tramp

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:32:53 PM)
t-val, I think Estopinan ends up at Fla. or FSU or Miami (if they offer).

laker79 (Dec 19, 2003 3:32:53 PM)
why wasn't osu ever in on Brock BoleN?

osub4me (Dec 19, 2003 3:33:09 PM)
they were!!

gmsbears86 (Dec 19, 2003 3:33:10 PM)
they offered him as a fb

laker79 (Dec 19, 2003 3:33:15 PM)

t-val (Dec 19, 2003 3:33:23 PM)
hey steve, can troy smith really be better than ell roberson

rd'sbucks (Dec 19, 2003 3:33:29 PM)

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:33:30 PM)
likwid, Ginn would be targets 1-5. Fills a glaring glaring need at CB, IMO

osub4me (Dec 19, 2003 3:33:34 PM)
he said no to fb1

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:33:49 PM)
Agree about CB. We need Ginn, bad!

buckeye59 (Dec 19, 2003 3:33:53 PM)
Illinois has done well in dayton area. 2 trotwood kids as well.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:34:04 PM)
BABuckeye, punter could be Huston, Nugent, Pierce or new verbal Trapasso, I guess.

afh_98 (Dec 19, 2003 3:34:09 PM)
Wonder if our favorite lineman from NC State will be on the field next year?

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:34:18 PM)
I'm sure it's been discussed, but how realistic is it that Ginn could redshirt next year in order to pursue the '04 Olympics?

osub4me (Dec 19, 2003 3:34:32 PM)
buckeye, both 2 star athletes i believe

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:34:48 PM)
afh....i doubt it

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:34:49 PM)
DiHard, good theory, they've had so few, they've had to beat them up in practice.

raven284 (Dec 19, 2003 3:35:21 PM)
smitdog....i think he said he wasn't going to redshirt either way

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:35:21 PM)
I thought Ginn was waiting for 2008?

buckeye59 (Dec 19, 2003 3:35:25 PM)
2 stars but i doubt anyone would see them in person.

afh_98 (Dec 19, 2003 3:35:39 PM)
DiHard...I am only hoping so we can further embarrass him.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:35:44 PM)
BlueChip, Gonzalez will be key on special teams, will get a look at WR as well, so will Hiley

floyd (Dec 19, 2003 3:35:51 PM)
Steve, so many athletes and we were so bad @ kickoff and punt returns. Who returns kicks this year? Why doesn't Bam?

osub4me (Dec 19, 2003 3:35:58 PM)
steve who playsrb next year besides ross

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:36:03 PM)
any thoughts on lukens.....i find him very intriguing

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:36:15 PM)
Good call DiHard

Seabus (Dec 19, 2003 3:36:19 PM)
Hiley looks like he would be a great candidate for kick returns next year.

likwid82 (Dec 19, 2003 3:36:19 PM)
I look forward to next year and having Ginn and Holmes return kicks

t-val (Dec 19, 2003 3:36:28 PM)
anyway lydell ross ahs a year like chris perry did this year

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:36:43 PM)
Is fumbling the only thing keeping Childress from returning kicks?

gmsbears86 (Dec 19, 2003 3:36:51 PM)
i cant wait to see hiley get a shot at returning punts

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:36:56 PM)
Holmes better get rid of his fumbilitis on punt/kick returns first....

gmsbears86 (Dec 19, 2003 3:36:58 PM)
hes seems like a freak

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:04 PM)
t-val: we'd be undefeated

osub4me (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:10 PM)
holmes still has trouble with holding on to the ball

westbuck04 (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:10 PM)
steve- what do you think about our chances with vernon gholston? scUM fans think he's there's, even though were tied after his visit, and he' s yet to visit osu.

Tatum (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:13 PM)
Steve, please tell me that we have better kick returners than Mo Hall and Troy Smith????

twex (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:14 PM)
i thought that ross was a senior how is he coming back next year

BABuckeye (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:15 PM)
likwid82 Holmes needs to learn how to hang on to the ball.

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:21 PM)
Reading all of these names makes me realize how much talent we have. Nice.

t-val (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:22 PM)
chris perry had a lydelesque season last year

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:32 PM)
Glass City, Hiley is at WR now. Where he will ultimately star at OSU is anybody's guess.

afh_98 (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:39 PM)
Ross and Hall both back

observant (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:45 PM)
did anyone hear that old guy tell speilman on his radio show that bam childress should start at fullback? speilman tore him apart

twex (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:47 PM)

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:49 PM)
i agree he will be a star, Steve

Seabus (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:51 PM)
I saw that Santonio was able to make some progress on his fumblitis towards the end of the year. It appears he might have learned his lesson.

buckeyeguy (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:54 PM)
If Zwick is half as good as advertised, the next 3 years will be very exciting. He will set records with the WR/TE's he will have surrounding him.

likwid82 (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:55 PM)
Holmes is in the clear, becomng the starting WR has gotten him over that problem IMO, the more touches he gets at WR the easier it will be for him to hang onto kick returns

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:37:59 PM)
laker79, they had Bolen in camp, I believe. They ended up with a good FB in Dionte Johnson who wants to be a FB. Bolen wanted the ball.

osub4me (Dec 19, 2003 3:38:15 PM)
hall has no acceleration and no vision but he does run tuff

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:38:17 PM)
t-val: Perry had 1110 yards in '02....Hardly "Lydelesque"

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:38:29 PM)

Kirk (Dec 19, 2003 3:38:30 PM)
More on Trapasso - JJ told me that it IS a scholarship, and the early graduation is so it wouldn't count on this year's scholarship count. We're in the process of following up on this.

twex (Dec 19, 2003 3:38:33 PM)
how is it that ross is coming back when everyone said hes a senior

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:38:48 PM)
ross is a junior twex

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:38:49 PM)
a Tom Tupa type, eh?

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:38:51 PM)
t-val, on Troy Smith, nobody knows. But the defense likes the look he gives Smith certainly a better thrower than Roberson, who may be a better run (I'm sure we'll see that in living color on the 2nd).

likwid82 (Dec 19, 2003 3:38:51 PM)
thanks Kirk

hooner1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:38:52 PM)
Steve Give a percentage chance of Maurice Clarett being our running back next year

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:38:54 PM)
he's a Junior

t-val (Dec 19, 2003 3:38:55 PM)
who is tropasso?

NYBUCKEYE (Dec 19, 2003 3:39:00 PM)
are we still feeling positive about getting Ginn and Davis?? They seemed to like what they say at USC :(

twex (Dec 19, 2003 3:39:01 PM)

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:39:01 PM)

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:39:02 PM)
Well we are about to have one of the biggest punters in the country.

BuzzardBuck (Dec 19, 2003 3:39:09 PM)
Steve, I'd like to see OSU take a flyer on either Delbert Ferguson or Raymond Williams, if we had a scholarship left! What are the odds?

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:39:22 PM)
Ferguson is headed to Nebraska I think.

laker79 (Dec 19, 2003 3:39:30 PM)
it'll be interesting to see what JAJa Riley does at UNLV compared with Lydell and Mo Hall

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:39:32 PM)
wetsbuck, on Gholston, great news he went to UM and MSU and didn't verbal.

BABuckeye (Dec 19, 2003 3:39:39 PM)
Ilewid82 that was the only thing I saw in his game. he runs great routes and finds the holes in the zone.

t-val (Dec 19, 2003 3:39:40 PM)
ray williams is an ineligable waiting ot happen

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:39:41 PM)
I think we lan d Gholston

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:39:53 PM)
that would be awesome

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:01 PM)
I have a feeling Ferguson is a guy that will get healthy, improve, and make us regret not making him an offer....Just my gut feeling.

twex (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:15 PM)
i just wish so much that theres some conspiracy organized by osu to stop any communication w/ davis to usc and lee w/ fsu and then theyll both b ours hahaha

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:17 PM)
Gholston seemed turned off by scUM trying to get him to verbal. He won't have that problem here.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:21 PM)
Tatum, they have to have better kick returners than Hall and Smith, but we'll never see them, unfortunately. Give me the New Freak please.

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:23 PM)
What are the chances Gamble will go pro? I'm thinking it's like a 33% chance.

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:33 PM)

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:38 PM)

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:40 PM)

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:42 PM)
My feeling is that Gamble going pro is better than 33%

likwid82 (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:43 PM)

aerobuck (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:45 PM)

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:48 PM)
33% a good guess

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:52 PM)
I'd say 60%

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:53 PM)
He'll be a first round pick, he's gone, IMO.

hooner1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:58 PM)
Zwick, Smith, or someone else.

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:59 PM)
hes not ready

osub4me (Dec 19, 2003 3:40:59 PM)
win some lose some 40%

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:41:10 PM)
He's not ready but he's still going to be a 1st round pick.

JHo (Dec 19, 2003 3:41:10 PM)
Please address Ferguson questions

likwid82 (Dec 19, 2003 3:41:13 PM)
inless he get pressure from his mom to get his degree, i think he is gone

joey (Dec 19, 2003 3:41:27 PM)
hey steve, who do you think will start at the linebacker and safetie spots for next year?

BuckeyeDave (Dec 19, 2003 3:41:31 PM)
The '03 season wasn't good enough for Gamble. He'll be back.

osub4me (Dec 19, 2003 3:41:40 PM)

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:41:40 PM)
hooner1, percentage on Reecie's (long awaited) return: 30-40 percent, tops. I think this lady judge moves him right into the NFL, causing a hail of fresh appeallate litigation.

twex (Dec 19, 2003 3:41:44 PM)
how did osu fall off the page so fast w/ leon hart he was rite in the middle of things awhile ago

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:41:45 PM)
Hawk, Carpenter, Schlegel, Salley, Whitner.

WOHBuckeye (Dec 19, 2003 3:41:48 PM)
i thought his technique got exposed, one good season could put him in the top 10

gmoney (Dec 19, 2003 3:41:54 PM)
Gamble did not even get 3rd team all american. he has a lot of improving to do at his new position.

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:41:55 PM)
agreed steve on clarett....

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:41:55 PM)
at the very least Gamble needs to work on his tackling technique

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:42:08 PM)

aerobuck (Dec 19, 2003 3:42:10 PM)
OSU has solid players on offense, but the only gamebreaker I've seen is Holmes. Steve, who in the background is a player that can take it 80 yds?

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:42:21 PM)
even if its not an official overturn of the cba, she will at least let reecie go to the sunday league while it is appealed

BuckeyeDave (Dec 19, 2003 3:42:21 PM)
MoC is gone. Will never play another down for Ohio State. Take it to the bank.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:42:24 PM)
BuzzardBuck, seems unlikely they will go after another RB. There are reports that Gartrell Shavers from Fla. has verbaled to OSU. We are trying to follow up.

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:42:32 PM)
gmoney: pro scouts don't judge talent based on all-american teams....

starbucknuts2 (Dec 19, 2003 3:42:34 PM)
does Tressel pick up the ? grade players at the last minute on purpose? does he have a

buckeye59 (Dec 19, 2003 3:42:37 PM)
Bam can

starbucknuts2 (Dec 19, 2003 3:42:41 PM)

gmoney (Dec 19, 2003 3:42:56 PM)
Who is Gartrell Shavers???

t-val (Dec 19, 2003 3:43:11 PM)
with people like shavers signing, does that mean hes writing off are chances at players like xavier lee

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:43:13 PM)
Love the hair on Gartrell

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:43:13 PM)
Glass City, I think Gamble is 70 percent out the door. Can you blame him (not a knock on OSU, just a chance for him to get paid ... a lot)?

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:43:18 PM)
see recruiting board for a post on Shavers.

youngbuck_9 (Dec 19, 2003 3:43:21 PM)

JHo (Dec 19, 2003 3:43:27 PM)
Steve, please address the Ferguson questions.

twex (Dec 19, 2003 3:43:41 PM)
ferguson is hurt and out of the picture

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:43:53 PM)
yeah gotta pay the bills

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:43:55 PM)
i dont blame any first rounder for leaving school......

BABuckeye (Dec 19, 2003 3:43:57 PM)
Steve Is Haw as good as advertised? I see that ESPN guy finally realizes hes not a fullback?

westbuck04 (Dec 19, 2003 3:44:01 PM)
gamble may not be "ready" yet, but he's as good as gone. all the nfl cares about is potential, which chris has plenty of.

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:44:19 PM)
JHo, doing my best, if you mean Delbert, he's been off my radar since OSU isn't involved. I guess he goes to Neb. if the new coach takes a liking to him. That's what I've read. Would be great for him, obviously. I understand they play football there, too.

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:44:32 PM)
Steve, thanks for this chat....this is great....gotta go make some money though.

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:44:33 PM)
I've seen video of Shavers. I don't like him. We could do better...Williams and Russell come to mind

rd'sbucks (Dec 19, 2003 3:44:35 PM)
JT must think that Darius Walker is not coming if Shavers is

DiHard (Dec 19, 2003 3:44:35 PM)
later fellas

osub4me (Dec 19, 2003 3:44:37 PM)
- steve- do you think gamble is really ready? He got beat more ondouble moves than????

Hubbard (Dec 19, 2003 3:44:49 PM)
Later DiHard

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:44:52 PM)

laker79 (Dec 19, 2003 3:44:54 PM)
yeah, where does Gary Russel wind up?

Rory Nicol (Dec 19, 2003 3:44:59 PM)
Hey guys great to be apart of the buckeye nation.

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:45:03 PM)

BlueChipRecruit (Dec 19, 2003 3:45:09 PM)
Welcome Rory lol

t-val (Dec 19, 2003 3:45:10 PM)
steve, with us signing 2 star prospects, does that mean we are giving up on some 4 and 5 star prospects

Glass City Buck (Dec 19, 2003 3:45:19 PM)
hello Rory

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:45:20 PM)
aerobuck, great point about play makers. Holmes only proven one. They need 2-3 more to emerge. Maybe Haw or Hiley or Hall (Roy) will fill that role.

smitdog1 (Dec 19, 2003 3:45:32 PM)
osub4me: that's not for a lack of athleticism on Gamble's part....a good coach will get a hold of him and make sure he's disciplined not to bite on those moves. That can be coached. Gamble's ability and potential can't.

rd'sbucks (Dec 19, 2003 3:45:33 PM)
and you always will be Rory!

t-val (Dec 19, 2003 3:45:34 PM)
hey rory, I think you will be a great tight-end like ben hartsock and a real gamer

osub4me (Dec 19, 2003 3:45:35 PM)
hey rory great choice!!!!

marinebuckeye (Dec 19, 2003 3:45:36 PM)
welcome Rory, you'll be proud to be a Buckeye...

Rory Nicol (Dec 19, 2003 3:45:44 PM)
Thanks alot

SteveHelwagen (Dec 19, 2003 3:45:57 PM)
t-val, not sure how Shavers' verbal clouds picture on Lee.

Rory Nicol (Dec 19, 2003 3:46:00 PM)
Ive got a question for Steve....

BuzzardBuck (Dec 19, 2003 3:46:02 PM)
Steve, I also heard recently that OSU has picked up it's interest in Bradley Glatthar (sp) from Elder! What do you know about that?

gmoney (Dec 19, 2003 3:46:04 PM)
Hey Rory - you are our pride and glory - the gem of this class!

Tatum (Dec 19, 2003 3:46:21 PM)
Rory, are you stoked to have those Buckeye decals on your helmet?

laker79 (Dec 19, 2003 3:46:24 PM)
better watch out for hoobler though

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