Helwagen Chat: Feb. 27 Archive

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Here is the archive of Friday's Chat with Bucknuts.com managing editor Steve Helwagen.

brutus4prez (Feb 27, 2004 1:09:22 PM)
Just read the DB's and specialists on the big board. Sounds like we're loaded.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:10:58 PM)
yeah, that's my take on the DBs, at least. I think they are positioned nicely for the next 3-4 years. I personally think Patterson will be a guy to watch. 4.0 student. You won't be looking around in 4 years and wondering what happened to him. If Ginn and O'Neal pan out, watch out

ButlerForCaptain (Feb 27, 2004 1:10:13 PM)
Steve, What positions are the most important to pick up in 2005? Do you have any favorite Juniors to fill those positions?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:13:20 PM)
My personal biggest areas of need would be OL, TB, QB and maybe DE. They obviously have a head start at OL with Boone. TB they may be waiting for 6-2, 220-pound Chris Wells, who will be a junior at Akron Garfield next year. QB won't be such a pressing need if Bauserman enrolls. DE you are always after big guys who can run. Unfortunately, other than maybe Todd Denlinger of Troy there may not be any impact DEs in Ohio this year.

ButlerForCaptain (Feb 27, 2004 1:11:59 PM)
Steve, How do you feel about the Basketball season? Will it end well? Will next year be something to look forward to with the 3 new recruits and a possible 4th joining the team?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:15:56 PM)
Butler, well, basketball season has definitely perked up in the last 6 days. They played great ball in winning at Indiana and Minnesota. Only OSU's 5th win in 31 tries at Assembly Hall. Granted, this is by far the worst IU team in nearly 2 decades. But a win there is still a big deal, no matter the circumstance. They need to win Sunday at Michigan, which will be no easy task. Then, they have to beat PSU at home and make a representative showing against Illinois, which is flexing its muscles. A win or 2 in Indy or an NIT bid would be a nice finish for this season and set the stage for next year, which is suddenly looking more promising. Butler will be a big key at PG and adding Hairston could propel them to NCAA, maybe Sweet 16 a year from now.

Tipdogusaf (Feb 27, 2004 1:14:35 PM)
Just got here and dont know if this has been hit on but do you have any thoughts on dick tressel as possibly our new rb coach?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:18:31 PM)
Tipdog, the rumors to that effect began swirling 2 weeks ago, but did not come to light until just the last day or so. It seems like that may be where Jim Tressel is headed. Some will not like it because he isn't a marquee name like Tim Spencer. But other than Maurice Clarett (whom Tressel, himself, brought in), name a 4-star RB who has signed with OSU in last 8-10 years who panned out. Sam Maldonado was 4-star, but didn't pan out. Will Dick Tressel help land 4-star RBs? I don't know. But he's a good football coach with 3 decades experience and cut from same cloth as the HC. Good enough for me and should be good enough for any OSU fan. JT is 25-2 the last 2 years, right?

edbuck51 (Feb 27, 2004 1:19:52 PM)
Sorry I'm late. Did you discuss the Dick Tressel possible hire? It would seem like a younger, more up and coming guy would be a good choice don't you think?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:21:54 PM)
Just discussed it. If Jim Tressel can get a rising star, so be it. But it is late in the process to be running people down. I think he may go the safe route and hire his brother. Is it a marquee name that will attract 4-star RBs? Maybe not. But the guy has 3 decades in football and is a clone of his younger bro, to a degree. Two of them on staff? You want to bet against them getting it done again?

osufan25 (Feb 27, 2004 1:21:58 PM)
Steve, What recruits do u think the bucks will pick up on the d-line and limebackers.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:24:57 PM)
On the DL, it was good to see Troy's Todd Denlinger at the junior day. He may be Ohio's best. I think he probably grows into a DT, but we'll see. Otherwise, they may have to go ourt of state. I don't think DL is such a big priority with 7 signees in the last 2 classes. LB? May have to go out of state for an impact guy there, too. Again, OSU seems loaded there. They may take Freddie Lenix, who plays LB from Glenville. But he is just 6-0, 195. Probably a college safety.

Tipdogusaf (Feb 27, 2004 1:25:06 PM)
Is nike camp open to the public?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:26:34 PM)
I'm not running it, so I won't declare it "open to the public". However, my experience has been that parents, etc. are welcome at such events as spectators. If you work the crowd and blend in, it should be OK. But, again, I am not personally inviting anybody or encouarging anybody to attend.

edbuck51 (Feb 27, 2004 1:26:44 PM)
Has there been any word and the development of Steve Rehring? I know they are only in conditioning right now, but is he expected to be in the mix this spring?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:29:52 PM)
No word whatsoever on how anybody "looks". Got to be good for him to be there for conditioning and spring ball. I do not, honestly, look for him to be in the two-deep this year. He is behind several guys with 2-3 years in program (i.e. Sims, Downing, Barton and maybe Coleman or Schafer). I can't even guess how all these guys will be slotted this spring and Bollman has promised to mix and match all spring until he gets the right five in the lineup. Stay tuned. But I think Rehring is a guy to watch down the line, maybe in a year or 2 really push for time then.

osufan25 (Feb 27, 2004 1:29:57 PM)
Steve, What is the latest on Brandon Harrison, Brad Jones and Myers-White? Are they leaning to the bucks.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:32:24 PM)
I think Myers-White is. Harrison and Jones, I'm not sure. If OSU offers, they would probably look hard at OSU as well. As you may have read in the Big Board, I'm not sure OSU really needs 4 more DBs in this class. They already have O'Neal and have offered Myers-White. Who else they go after, time will tell. Was good that those guys made it for junior day, too, though.

edbuck51 (Feb 27, 2004 1:32:30 PM)
What are your thoughts on how the Tressel camp deals with the media (diseminates information) versus the Cooper camp. Seems like real imformation is pretty hard to come by these days.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:36:56 PM)
The one big difference is access to the assistants. Tressel takes the Earle Bruce/Woody Hayes approach, apparently, that the assistants have enough to do between coaching and recruiting that they should not be weighed down by talking to the media any more than they have to. I won't say we never see them, but the access is probably 25 percent as much as we got in the Cooper regime. That really hurts because those guys provide insight on how guys are progressing. You could gauge how guys who weren't getting to play were coming along. Tressel, as the main mouthpiece for the program, doesn't have time to give you all of those insights. (He probably has them, but he gets asked the standard questions at each session and we rarely get to look beyond that day's events for those kind of informative "How does Kirk Barton look?" kind of questions, as an example). That's probably the biggest difference. I'm not necessarily complaining about that, either, but access to the assistants is somewhat different. And that isn't to say we never get them, either.

may may (Feb 27, 2004 1:37:01 PM)
Outside Manningham who do u think is the no.1 reciever in state.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:39:30 PM)
I get asked that a lot. Duane really likes Brian Hartline from Canton Glen Oak. He's 6-3, 175. I like Craig Orton from HHWayne at 6-4, 175. He could fill out into a Michael Jenkins type, maybe. Also high on everybody's list is Chagrin Falls' Brian Robiskie (6-3, 175), son of Browns assistant (and former Oakland standout) Terry Robiskie. You could probably throw a blanket over those 3. Let's see who gets it done at the camps and on the field this fall.

edbuck51 (Feb 27, 2004 1:39:39 PM)
Do you think it is possible to get a grass roots effort going to build the new training facility? How would one go about getting something like that started?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:43:44 PM)
I'm sure OSU athletics would love any help they could get to get that building built. They were talking about an addition in the $6-10 million range and they need to raise that money before they build. This project got moved down the list of priorities and then the trustees hit the brakes on the sports complex building craze. Geiger has shown he can finance such projects (stadium, Schott as shining examples). Now they need this next piece of the puzzle. I have been very outspoken that they needed the WHAC renovations as long as 5 years ago. But I also understand the importance of the campus rec center (new Larkins) with natotorium, etc. that athletics will also use. I know for some of you it is unfortunate that it is not the Ohio State University of the Woody Hayes Athletic Center, as Geiger once derisively said when Coop suggested they build the academic center next to the WHAC instead of on campus. But that is the climate we live in. Geiger and athletics have to be good campus citizens. I would say contact OSU athletics and see what they say about getting a grass roots campaign going.

bellevuebuck (Feb 27, 2004 1:44:55 PM)
I believe an o-line is the core of a team. They can also be the defenses best friend. Are we gonna see an improvement next season?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:47:02 PM)
That is the $64,000 question, my friend. I hear a lot of people grumble "They can't be any worse than they were last year." Well, yes they can be. If these young guys don't take hold (i.e. don't hold, ha ha), then OSU will have a big problem because a young QB will be running for his life. Ross has shown he isn't going to exactly run over tacklers in the hole, either. So they really need to come through or you're maybe looking at 7-4. We'll know more after the spring.

osufan25 (Feb 27, 2004 1:47:11 PM)
Steve, which oos QB's will get an OSU offer. I've heard that Bill Stull may get one very soon.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:49:55 PM)
Stull would be a candidate because of OSU's sudden movement into Pa., plus his own propensity for the Buckeyes. I can't tell you if he is better or worse than Gene DelleDonne from Delaware state or not. Those may be the 2 OOS QBs who get the biggest look. Again, I think they'll know more about what they want to do in July. They will have some or all of the QBs they'd like to look at in camp, plus Bauserman should know his draft status and whether he plans to go to pro or not.

edbuck51 (Feb 27, 2004 1:50:05 PM)
It would just seem that if George Steinbrenner and I wanted to reaise the money and earmark it for the facility it might move up the priority list.

edbuck51 (Feb 27, 2004 1:50:08 PM)
Do you know who is going to handle scheduling football games now that Archie is out of the Athletic department?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:54:14 PM)
Edbuck, good point on Steinbrenner. I have not heard who will take over supervision of the football program since Archie's departure. Perhaps Geiger, himself, will do that. But it has been his style to delegate such hands-on supervisory matters to an associate AD. They have not hired any since Archie's departure. Miechelle Willis oversees basketball and many of the women's sports. Maybe she'll take over football as well. Good ?? for Geiger next time I get a chance to speak with him. That is an important duty (scheduling) because they do have an open date on Sept. 2, 2006. Otherwise, I think Archie had them fairly well booked toward 2010.

edbuck51 (Feb 27, 2004 1:54:20 PM)
Are you expecting the Bucks to stick with one starter at QB beginning the season, or do you think both guys will see time in the early games?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:59:03 PM)
I think both guys play early in the season, as much as they can do that. I have also heard they are working on sets where they line up almost as split backs in the shotgun and the ball could go to either one. Think about the possibilities that sets up -- direct snaps to Troy, snaps to Justin for a shovel pass to Troy, Justin to Troy circle routes beyond the line, Troy run/pass option rollouts, etc. That would be a lot to scheme for, certainly.

brutus4prez (Feb 27, 2004 1:59:09 PM)
What about the specialists? Who do you think has a chance to start? You've got Huston, Trapasso, Pettrey and Pierce.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 1:59:33 PM)
I'm not sure if Pierce is still around or not. Have to check on that.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 2:00:54 PM)
I think Trapasso starts at punter this year (unless Huston comes out of nowhere). Then, Pettrey moves in and starts 2005-08 at kicker. Set for next several years at both spots, you have to hope. Will be neat to see Trapasso this spring.

brutus4prez (Feb 27, 2004 2:01:03 PM)
Last year Bucknuts said he gave up schollies to walk on at OSU. Why would he leave?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 2:02:33 PM)
I honestly do not know. Just heard a rumor he was not around any more. Have not confirmed it and it could be totally off base. Again, I spend almost no time tracking the comings and goings of the walk-ons. I'm too busy with recruiting and covering the scholarship guys the best we can.

may may (Feb 27, 2004 2:02:39 PM)
Our basketball program has let an all conference team leave our state over the last 3 years Jawad Williams ,Rick Daniels, Chris Quinn, Robert hite and others and we already lost the no 3 in state recruit next year to Notre Dame and the no 2. in state player is on record of saying if michigan offers he is going Jamelle Cornely do u feel now Ben raymond No1 in ohio is now a must get and why is Obie losing all these kids and bringing in Charles Bass's

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 2:06:35 PM)
Great questions, all of them. Raymond is a great talent as a 6-6 wing forward. I think OSU's status and whether they offer him will be decided upon whether they get Hairston or not. Honestly, Ohio doesn't have that much to offer with the junior class. The sophomore class with Daequan Cook, David Lighty and others is the one to watch. Cornley is a 6-5 power forward. Nice player, but I'm not sure he changes the world, either. I admit, it hurt watching Chris Quinn put the dagger in Syracuse at the Carrier Dome last week. It just seems that recruiting Ohio has never worked out well for O'Brien. The timing has always been off.

buckeyeJoe (Feb 27, 2004 2:06:46 PM)
Thanks Kirk- One question, are the OSU coaches able to attend the NIKE clinic

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 2:08:36 PM)
No, to my knowledge they can't actively participate. I've heard mixed rulings on whether they can "observe." They are having practice that day, so campers can also come to watch practice (a scrimmage, I presume) and cozy up with the players and coaches there.

bellevuebuck (Feb 27, 2004 2:08:41 PM)
Whats the latest word on Maurice Hall, how is his rehab going?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 2:09:40 PM)
No idea, sorry. We are invited to watch a conditioning session next week. Maybe we'll glean something from that.

buckeyeJoe (Feb 27, 2004 2:09:46 PM)
Is OSU looking at Michael Hall? A junior and brother of UD basketball player Brooks Hall. He is also a teammate of Tewilliger

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 2:11:33 PM)
Well, from watching Terwilliger they have to know about him. He's a big reason Troy is 19-1, no doubt. I can't tell you anything more about him, though.

buckeyeJoe (Feb 27, 2004 2:13:43 PM)
When is the Bucknuts magazine going to arrive?

Kirk (Feb 27, 2004 2:13:43 PM)
I would look out for it within the first two weeks of March. Should be sent over the next few days.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 2:13:44 PM)
Any last blasts?

buckeyeJoe (Feb 27, 2004 2:14:51 PM)
anything new on recruiting...offers?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 2:16:14 PM)
Nope. Have not heard of any new offers beyond the few that are listed in the database. There are rumors that some movement could come on March 1. Not sure what the significance of that date is. Maybe it begins a contact period of some sort by phone. I really do not know. But have heard several kids can expect offers on or about March 1. I guess we need to stay tuned.

Kirk (Feb 27, 2004 2:16:59 PM)
Three days away already! There doesn't appear to be any more questions for Steve, so we'll let him go today. Thanks everyone for stopping by!

buckeyeJoe (Feb 27, 2004 2:17:13 PM)
thanks guys!

SteveHelwagen (Feb 27, 2004 2:19:07 PM)
Thanks everybody. See you later!!

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