Helwagen Chat: Aug. 20 Archive

Here is the archive of Friday's Chat session with Bucknuts.com managing editor Steve Helwagen. He conducts these Chat sessions each Friday for Bucknuts.com subscribers. Click this free link for excerpts from this Chat.

PooBah (Aug 20, 2004 1:05:28 PM)
Has Tress decided to handcuff the QB's or let them to whatever regarding them running?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:06:45 PM)
Coach Tressel was only available to the media after Monday's practice. The topic never came up at that time. We have no idea what he is thinking at this point. My guess is they may be allowed to run during certain portions and off limits at others because you don't want them to get hurt.

bucksfan47 (Aug 20, 2004 1:06:48 PM)
Steve, hello..... Who are you looking forward to seeing in the jersey scrimmage? upperclass, and freshmen? Again thank you for your coverage on all things buckeye...Go Bucks!

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:07:08 PM)
Oh man, if I could videotape the thing I would. I want to watch and evaluate everybody ...

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:08:43 PM)
but most specifically, the QBs, the RTs, the RBs, the MLBs, the DLs and DTs and the safeties. Just half the team (ha ha). Plus, I want to see how some of the redshirts and true freshmen mix in. This will go a long way toward determining how much some of those guys will play. I want to see Frost at TE, Ginn anywhere, Haw, Lyons, Dukes, Gonzalez and Jordan, too, Richardson in place of Kudla, etc.

bucksfan47 (Aug 20, 2004 1:08:47 PM)
Do you think Tressel will give Teddy "ballgame" Ginn some looks on Sat. on Offense?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:09:15 PM)
No doubt. He might get 5-10 plays on offense. It will be interesting to see if they truly call his number with a reverse or bubble screen.

redondo (Aug 20, 2004 1:09:27 PM)
Hi Steve - To your knowledge have any of OSU's "verbal commits" like Schoenhoft been attending practice(s)? How about any at the jersey scrimmage? Thank you.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:10:29 PM)
Practice has only been open to the media twice and I did not see recruits at either one. Keep in mind, the Ohio high school season starts next Friday, so most of them are in 2-a-days through this weekend and that doesn't leave much time. Maybe some will be there on Sat. if their schedule allows.

bucksfan47 (Aug 20, 2004 1:10:33 PM)
isn't Frost injured? I thought he had a knee injury?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:10:59 PM)
He left practice early on Monday. They didn't tell us if it was serious or not. I'm assuming he'll be in there.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:11:08 PM)
We'll see, I guess.

dragonknight (Aug 20, 2004 1:11:45 PM)
Ok, so I'm officially an idiot. I used the password for my nickname the first time :0

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:11:56 PM)
That's OK, that happens from time to time.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:12:29 PM)
I may try and do an impromptu Chat around 3:15 or 3:30 tomorrow. Watch the Insiders board if I'm able to break free for that. Plus ...

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:12:45 PM)
Bill Conley's first Chat is a week from Monday, tentatively at 3 p.m. Eastern.

bucksfan47 (Aug 20, 2004 1:12:48 PM)
I know there has been some speculation about Doc Tressel improving the running game, and that he is a step up from Spencer... What is your take on that?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:14:19 PM)
The proof will be in the pudding. Spencer did not have much luck with Lydell Ross. Not a knock on Lydell because there were a lot of variables involved with his success/non-success (injuries, line play, Reecie, etc.). I want to see how they do. It would be real hard to be much worse running the ball (or just plain moving it) than they were a year ago.

PooBah (Aug 20, 2004 1:14:24 PM)
What do you think about Tress's comment that he doubts either Haw or T-Pitt will redshirt? I'd really like Haw to redshirt.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:16:13 PM)
I'm not as worried about that. The limited live reps I have seen of both freshmen show me they can play. I think Tressel may look at it that 1 or both of those guys can keep pressure on Ross if he falters or will be there when/if he gets hurt. That doesn't surprise me one bit that they're going to get a chance. They're that good. And it doesn't bother me either that they aren't saving Pittman or Haw for 2008, either. They need to play now, at worst to get ready for 2005.

Guest (Aug 20, 2004 1:16:19 PM)
Steve, why do you think that Alex Boone's ranking is slipping on some sites? Do you think he is the best offensive lineman in the country?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:17:34 PM)
Who knows? I don't do those rankings. It's ridiculous because he has done nothing to merit moving down. He hasn' t played in a game since last Dec. Maybe they have new tape in and other guys have 40 offers. I don't know. I know Boone played hurt late last year. There aren't many 6-8, 300 pound guys with his measurables.

dragonknight (Aug 20, 2004 1:17:38 PM)
OSU has 2 scholarship RBs on their roster next year. Both need some sort of experience

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:18:04 PM)
Yep, DK, that's my point. They need to recruit at least 2 more this year, too, and hope for Chris Wells next year.

ken (Aug 20, 2004 1:18:48 PM)
I saw earlier today in a Bucknuts article that Lyons was "The man" as far as recieving abliity goes. Is he the next BMW ? Wouls his physical style be similar? What does that say about TGII in the Big 33 shutting him down? Is he really as advertised or are they both just realy really good? I know too many questions but this freshman class is intriguing.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:19:53 PM)
You lost me on BMW, but I like Lyons a lot. Says a lot that Tressel lopped him in with the freshmen who will probably play (or it indicts the upperclassman WRs, take your pick). They are both that darn good.

dragonknight (Aug 20, 2004 1:19:58 PM)
Have you seen Terry Stross, the WR who committed to Iowa? I'd love to know how you think he compares to Amos and Hartline

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:22:15 PM)
I am tripping over video of Trey Stross. But since he verbaled to Iowa, I never stopped to look at them. Great for him. Iowa is a legit program now. Stross is 6-4, 194 and runs a 4.43 40. That's pretty good for such a big kid. Amos is 6-2, 170 and he's a good sprinter (10.8 100). Hartline is 6-3, 175 and a good track hurdler. I look as Hartline as a relentless athletic type, just a great competitor. Type cast the others as you see fit.

PooBah (Aug 20, 2004 1:22:24 PM)
Speaking of Amos, anything new here? Do we have a slight lead in your opinion?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:23:29 PM)
I think it's mostly between OSU and Purdue. I think his heart is pulling him toward OSU but his head (and Stubblefield and Standeford's numbers) are pulling him toward Purdue. Plus, I think he's related to Antwaun Rogers (Jenkins' friend ... ha ha), too.

dragonknight (Aug 20, 2004 1:23:35 PM)
What's your prediction for Ringer. Does OSU offer? If so, is he a great get or just a decent one?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:25:15 PM)
I think Ringer ends up at Ohio State. There are a lot of things going on behind the scenes I understand to try and make that a reality. I give OSU a 60-70 percent chance to land this kid, provided everything falls into place. You know, he has some other offers. He is being more than polite to bide his time until Ohio State gets all of its ducks in a row, so to speak.

dbostonstill#1 (Aug 20, 2004 1:25:23 PM)
Steve, how many games will Ted Ginn win by himself? I will say 2.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:27:38 PM)
I don't know if he'll win games by himself this year, but he can't hurt. I'm waiting for that first moment where you're able to scream to the guy next to you "There he goes!" like we were able to for the Texas Tech game with Reecie on that first long run. Let me say this: He was returning punts the other day. he caught one and started glidng toward the sideline effortlessly. The coverage team had some real fliers and they seemed to be standing still. It was like that FSU-OSU Sugar Bowl where E.G. Green caught that pass in the left flat and it looked like his 7 steps were the same as 4 for Berry and Winfield. He's that special.

PooBah (Aug 20, 2004 1:27:47 PM)
Any idea why we never pursured Stross? Any chance we will get back in the game?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:28:26 PM)
Hey, they can't take 'em all. They apparently like Hartline and Lymon and Amos better than Robiskie (may still offer) and Stross and Orton. That's their call.

edbuck51 (Aug 20, 2004 1:28:32 PM)
What impact do you think OHSAA's ruling on Dennis Underwood have on his opportunity for a D1 scholarship?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:30:19 PM)
I think it hurts him from the standpoint of getting a major D-I scholarship. He may want to go the Fork Union or prep school route this year so he can play (if even that's an option, I don't know). I think MAC schools would be more likely to take a flier on him. Duane had him No. 22 in Ohio, which is right on the edge of where guys start "falling" to MAC schools. West Virginia did offer him previously. That ain't all bad, I guess.

ken (Aug 20, 2004 1:30:38 PM)
Is Zwick still throwing off his back foot when under pressure?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:31:30 PM)
To be honest, I've seen Justin make 3 throws under pressure this fall so far. We'll know more after tomorrow. He did that some in the spring and it was disconcerting, although that's his style and he will complete a few of those, too. It ain't pretty, but sometimes he gets the job done anyway.

theFLBuckeye (Aug 20, 2004 1:31:37 PM)
Steve, from what you've seen at practices, is Ohio State better skilled at QB and RB , comparing 2004 to 2001 (Tressel & Staff's 1 st year) ? If yes, does this mean 9 wins ?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:34:05 PM)
Better skilled at RB? Wells was pumped up and got his 1,000 yards and trampled Michigan. Do they have anybody who will do that? Maybe not one individual, but certainly collectively they are better at RB today than they were 3 years ago. Better at QB? You had Bellisari as a senior, who before the DUI was pretty good. Then Krenzel, etc. Man that's tough to say because early in that year Bellisari was terrible (see UCLA). How's this for an answer: I expect the QB play to be just as inconsistent (unless I really see a high completion percentage and no INTs tomorrow, they did not have those good marks in the spring, by and large).

redondo (Aug 20, 2004 1:34:28 PM)
Hi Steve - UC Coach Dantonio knows the OSU defensive talent as well as anyone. Any guesses as to matchups he would consider favorable for his offense, particularly in light of the experience and talent he has at QB and with Delbert running the ball?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:37:06 PM)
I think Richard Hall will be running the ball. I haven't followed UC's camp, but I imagine Dantonio goes with the seniors. I'm not sure Guidugli throwing the ball all over the lot is Dantonio's cup of tea. In fact, I did hear a sound byte where he said they had to establish the run. I think at some point he'll come to the realization that establishing the run might be a nice long-term goal, but if he wants any hope of beating OSU, he'll allow his O-coord to do exactly what every OC he faced over the last 2 years tried to do -- spread the field and put it in the air. UC can't beat Ohio State running straight at them (unless I see the offense running the ball better than expected tomorrow). Won't happen, and Mark, of all people, should know that.

Buckwildin' (Aug 20, 2004 1:37:34 PM)
What's our chances with Lymon? I think this kid is the biggest WR out there that we're currently in on.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:38:42 PM)
I read a snippet of an article from his hometown paper in Fort Wayne and it sounded dead even between OSU, Purdue and Michigan with some others mixed in. Sounds like 33 percent to me. The article portrayed Lymon and his dad as down-to-earth people, those are always good signs for OSU, which is not so much into the "heroic" types.

tulsabuck (Aug 20, 2004 1:38:48 PM)
Which of the players from the past couple of years do you see back in Columbus on the coaching staff in the future? It seems that superstars usually don't return to coaching, but the players that did/do the most with their talent.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:41:16 PM)
That's hard to say. Mike Vrabel was more than the past couple of years, but he has made no bones about the fact he'd like to coach one day (and I think OSU is where he wants to be). Doss will probably have a long pro career, maybe him. Nickey? That's a hard question. I see these guys as players, not really how they'd fit in as coaches.

edbuck51 (Aug 20, 2004 1:41:22 PM)
It sounds like the seniors are stepping up on this team. Do you get a sense they are going to be strong enough to lead this team to a Big Ten title?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:42:46 PM)
Yeah, it could happen. The paper today had a big article on Fraser and how unhappy he was with last year. He seems to be a good team guy and a good leader. Now he needs to play like a senior and get 7-10 sacks and make some things happen. Leadership is important, but so are tangible results from those experienced guys on the field. They won the national title in 2002 because Doss and Wilhelm, in particular, stood on their heads.

dragonknight (Aug 20, 2004 1:42:56 PM)
How well do you know Fred Davis? Is he the type who will be just fine with the move to TE?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:45:57 PM)
I talked to Fred several times on the phone. I don't think he was the villain he was portrayed to be by many people. He was put in kind of an untenable position, did not want to tell anybody (including his coach) no and just kind of went off one day, got on a plane and did his own thing by going to USC. Now he has to live with those consequences. I think the whole fiasco was ridiculous, in many respects. What does it say that Mike Williams isn't even in camp and there's no room for Davis at WR? Flip side, of course, is they're selling him the "You're the next kellen Winslow" crap and maybe there is a legit opp for him to catch 20-30 balls this year as a freshman at TE. If so, good for him, make the switch and don't look back. After all the crap he took in going to USC, I don't look for him to walk away so easily, if that's what you're asking.

edbuck51 (Aug 20, 2004 1:46:29 PM)
How do you compare this years coaching staff to the one originally brought in by JT? What role does Stan Jefferson play on this staff (not just his title, what does he do on a day to day basis)?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:49:17 PM)
Stronger staff today than the one he came with. Nothing against Ken Conatser, but that struck me as a favor to bring him to the big time so he'd have a nicer retirement package. He had been with Tressel since his first day 15 years prior at YSU. That experiment lasted 1 year. And, really, Ken was a nice guy, so I don't want to bag on him. It hurts, obviously, that Dantonio and Conley aren't around any more. But Hazell is a great addition. Snyder is ready for this opportunity. I look around and I don't see as many weak links, if that's a fair answer.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:50:43 PM)
Regarding Stan Jefferson, he takes over Dick Tressel's role. Dick Tressel assisted Bob Tucker in administrative duties and also was involved as the academic liaison and in community outreach. Jefferson has worked at a city school his whole life and Tressel knows how well he relates to kids from that background. He'll be another set of ears for those kids when they need some counseling, too. Another good hire.

tulsabuck (Aug 20, 2004 1:51:02 PM)
From all appearances, Tressell is a workaholic. They used to write about Joe Gibbs setting up a cot in his office to burn the midnight oil. Do you know what kind of hours Tressell works? His staff?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:54:04 PM)
I think during the season, his schedule is pretty brutal. Really, 12 months out of the year, he's living a continuous non-stop tilt-a-whirl with appearances all over the country, recruiting duties, coaching, administrative, etc. During camp, I assume most days they all stay at the hotel. Maybe he gets to go home since he's the HC, although he always says he believes there should be no special privileges. Somehow I see him right there in the chow line with these guys at breakfast and back there at dinner, too. Since he is so hands-on with the offense as the "de facto" coordinator, I think he spends a ton of "extra" time watching tape and game planning beyond what a regular HC might do. They give the staff most of the month of July off to recharge, then demand almost 110 percent commitment from them from Aug. through the following June. It is pretty brutal (have I said that?)

Buckwildin' (Aug 20, 2004 1:54:32 PM)
How does O'State sell their offense to skill position recruits? To me, it's still a pretty easy sell, as skill position offense players were drafted this year, even though the offense itself was less than impressive. It would appear to me that a great player is a great player regardless of the scheme. In an offense like O'State's, a great skill position player would seem to stand out even more in an offense like ours. Your thoughts?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:57:43 PM)
They don't sell the offense ... they sell the whole experience -- the school, the city, the opportunities after football, the coaches they'll play for, the teammates they'll have and, oh yes, the offense they'll play in. In this case, they can tell guys "Look what Michael Jenkins did with his records he set here and where he was drafted." They can also say "You can help us get back to the top of the Big Ten in offense, where we belong." Flip side, as an example, Purdue may have great coaches and a great offense. But will there be the same opps after graduation? Where will you spend 4 years, W. Lafayette or in Columbus? And so on (and not a knock on Purdue, just using it as an example). You don't sell one piece of anything. You focus on everything and sell it as a package. If they ask specific questions about your offense, you answer them truthfully and honestly.

edbuck51 (Aug 20, 2004 1:58:17 PM)
I met Fred Davis at USC's spring game. He seemed like a heck of a nice guy. USC moves the ball around a lot on offense. Doesn't it seem like if he's on the field there he will get his chances?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 1:58:29 PM)
Yep, probably so ... could not care less.

rbuck (Aug 20, 2004 1:58:34 PM)
I know it's way early, but could you give me an overall record and a Big Ten Prediction for the Basketball Team?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:02:05 PM)
It's early because we don't know who they're playing in the nonconf. I gave you 6 or 7 of the 11 nonconf opponents in Buckeye Grove. Off those, I imagine they could go 4-3 very easily (losses at LSU, Texas Tech in Dallas and probably St. Joseph's at home, even without Nelson). Let's say they go 7-4 nonconf and somewhere between 7-9 and 10-6 in the Big Ten. That's right around 17-10 or 16-11. They have the potential to be within 2 games of that mark either way, I think. Butler will definitely help. He's not Scoonie Penn, who came here with 2 years of experience. But the pointless possessions should be fewer. Dials needs to stay healthy, be a man and get you 16 and 9. Stockman needs to play his next 33 like his last 10 and everything could be good, real good, in fact.

bucksfan47 (Aug 20, 2004 2:02:36 PM)
Steve, in your mind, do you believe Coach Tressel is the best coach in all of college? All bull aside about his offense, and being conservative.... I'm talking plan X's and O's.... and game prep?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:05:07 PM)
In putting a college football program together, assembling it through recruiting, hiring coaches, coaching them up during practice and pushing the right buttons during the games, I would be hard pressed to know who does a better job. Maybe Stoops or Saban. I want to see Carroll sustain it, although they are my preseason No. 1. Now, in terms of various facets, I think there are better X's and O's guys somewhere than Tressel. But putting the whole package together, I'm not sure who is better. Does anybody have any suggestions? He and Saban have to be neck and neck and Stoops is right there, too.

Buckwildin' (Aug 20, 2004 2:05:18 PM)
What's a realistic expectation of this year's team? Will we be reloading or rebuilding?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:06:43 PM)
Mostly reloading. There is an incredible amount of depth and talent at many positions and, at the least, just a ton of depth at some (OL). My call is 9-2 with a win over Michigan to deny UM (not sure who they lose to otherwise, should be favored in every game they play) the Orange Bowl. OSU to the Rose for the second time since 1984 and first time since 96.

ToledoBucknutty (Aug 20, 2004 2:06:57 PM)
Good afternoon Steve and Kirk! Was just a little surprised to see you had the Horns ranked ahead of our beloved Bucks!! They haven't proven ever that they can win a big game under Brown. And watch out for my hometown Rockets...they could give Minnesota a run for their money. Who do you thinkwill take the scrimmage? I imagine the D is probably a little ahead of the O at this point. And is there a huge dropoff after Kudla or can Jay fill shoes well? How is Mike by the way? Sorry just got here!

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:07:32 PM)
But their schedule sucks, too. If they throw their helmets on the field, they'll be 9-2, which is where I have OSU pegged, too. Oklahoma, as always will hand them their ...

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:08:57 PM)
Defense should take it. They missed 6-7 key guys and it showed in the spring. The young DTs tried, but kind of got chewed up by the time it was over. Richardson is a stud with a Spellman-like wingspan. He's made some plays this year already. Kudla should be OK and may return next week, Heacock said. They want to be cautious with neck injuries.

dragonknight (Aug 20, 2004 2:09:17 PM)
For what it's worth on the Fred Davis line, OSU threw almost twice as many passes to it's TEs than USC last year, even though OSU threw a lot less passes.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:09:25 PM)
How about that?!

Seabus (Aug 20, 2004 2:09:29 PM)
Steve, not sure if this has been covered yet, but what did Marcel Frost look like at TE? How much playing time do you see him getting?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:10:28 PM)
Marcel looked great against air before they put pads on. He probably caught 10-15 balls that day in practice. He was not there Monday when I got there. He was injured early in that padded practice. There has been no injury update from OSU on his status. We'll see if he's up and running tomorrow.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:11:05 PM)
He will play quite a bit as the first and second TE if healthy. He looks doggone good to me. Heacock admitted they needed an athletic TE when they lost Irizarry, even mentioning him by name yesterday.

ken (Aug 20, 2004 2:11:16 PM)
The O-line looked soooooo good for most of the K-State game. Instead of slow getting off the ball , making one hit and falling down they seemed to have a fire under them and react so much quicker.. Was this injuries? Can we hope that this years version will look like that on a more consistant basis?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:12:28 PM)
You can hope, and that's what Coach Bollman wants to see, too. Bollman admitted, if you read it, that the athletic OL are what he wants. Now if there is a big guy who maybe doesn't move as well, but can be a great pass blocker he will take those guys and use them too from time to time. But as a rule, he wants guys that can move. that explains so many of his pickups last 2-3 years.

Uk Buckeye (Aug 20, 2004 2:12:41 PM)

Uk Buckeye (Aug 20, 2004 2:12:44 PM)
just arrived...you may recall I emailed you to tell you Conley would be leaving the program...never dreamed he would b on your staff...great get!!

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:12:52 PM)
How about that, too?!

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:13:03 PM)
I still remember that e-mail ...

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:14:07 PM)
I actually think it was an EZBox message. You sent it to me in Dec. or Jan. Then, when they had signing day and we did the interviews and Conley did not even hint that something might be up, I dismissed it. Then, when the murmurs came around on April 1 he was out, I recalled what you said and the scenario you gave came to pass ...

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:14:27 PM)
We could not be any happier to have Bill contributing to our staff. I'm going to make a request ...

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:15:54 PM)
I know everybody wants to know every dirty little secret of everything that's ever happened there over the last 20 years and that's fine. But, please, let's not be rude when we get the chance to talk with Bill. You will be given a chance to tap into his mind and insights on what is REALLY happening with this football program. Ask those DLS questions if you have to, but, please, take advantage of the opportunity we all will have.

edbuck51 (Aug 20, 2004 2:16:04 PM)
You would have to think Bobby Bowden is right in there as well.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:16:10 PM)
On the coaching thing ...

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:16:14 PM)

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:16:25 PM)
Paterno would have been too about 8-10 years ago.

Buckwildin' (Aug 20, 2004 2:16:30 PM)
What are some acceptable numbers out of the QB position this year?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:16:44 PM)
Great question ...

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:18:50 PM)
This is interesting. A year ago, Ohio State was 6th in the Big Ten in passing yards per game at 206.1. I was just going to say if they could average 220 yards a game (which would have ranked them 5th), I'd take it. 220 over an 11 game season is over 2,400 yards. That would be phenomenal.

Buckwildin' (Aug 20, 2004 2:19:08 PM)
What took so long to move Caldwell? Was he just altogether forgotten and has since resurfaced his senior year?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:19:45 PM)
Not sure, but I think he can help them. He has nothing to lose. Especially if Kudla is out, he could get some snaps.

bucks4fun (Aug 20, 2004 2:19:48 PM)
I read that there will be no public sale of tickets this season. Steve, do you need an assistant to help carry notebooks, camera's, etc.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:19:56 PM)
No, I think I can manage ... ha ha.

Biggieval (Aug 20, 2004 2:20:00 PM)
Steve, we heard a lot of talk about Alex Barrow after both all-star games- how has he been adjusting to the speed and strength of the college game?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:20:32 PM)
He made 1-2 nice plays on Monday when I was there. High motor kid, decent student, he will be there. He's in the pipeline, look up in 2-3 years and you just might have a bright star.

Buckwildin' (Aug 20, 2004 2:20:38 PM)
The last couple of years, it seems like our first and last games are our best games, What does O'State need to do to keep that emotion for the games in between?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:21:55 PM)
That's hard to say because the regimen these kids keep here has to wear on them. They play games for several weeks before they start school. I think that is hard on them to start school in late Sept and change their rhythm in mid-season like that. Places on semesters start in another week or so and are in school the whole way. That may be one reason why there can be a lull sometimes at midseason.

edbuck51 (Aug 20, 2004 2:22:03 PM)
How worried are you about the punting situation this year?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:22:46 PM)
The inconsistency is what worries me. Huston can hit a 50-yarder every other punt. But will he even field the snap (like he failed to do the other day) on the next one? Turano I think is No. 2 for that job.

BuckeyeDave (Aug 20, 2004 2:22:50 PM)
Steve -I'll only be at one home game and 3 away games this season. How can I recognize you and Gary at the games? Do you get down to the sidelines?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:23:34 PM)
Depends what game. Most games I'm in the press box. Sometimes I shoot pics, but that is rare. Just drop me a line before one of those games and we'll see if we can hook up.

BuckeyeDave (Aug 20, 2004 2:23:38 PM)
On QB numbers...JT once sais his goal for the offense is 200 yds rushing and 250 passing per game.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:24:40 PM)
There you go. Those would be great marks ... if they could ever hit them (ha ha). Those marks would have been 3rd in rushing, 3rd in passing and 2nd total offense in the Big Ten last year.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:25:00 PM)
I will be right back in 2 mins.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:27:43 PM)
I am back ... had to take care of something.

BuckeyeDave (Aug 20, 2004 2:27:51 PM)
3rd in passing and rushing, 2nd in total offense? I'll take those numbers!

Biggieval (Aug 20, 2004 2:27:57 PM)
Steve- I do not know if this has already been asked, but what do the remaining DT recruits look like? What is your feel on Walker Ashley, etc?

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:30:39 PM)
His top 4 are Ohio State, USC, Penn State and nearby Minnesota. That looks good for OSU because it is the best school nearest to him, in my opinion. They need toget him in here for his visit in early Dec. and show him what the school has to offer.

bucks4fun (Aug 20, 2004 2:30:42 PM)
Mike Nugent seems to have a very strong leg. Why don't we get away from the directional kick off and just let him kick it out ot the end zone. I don't see what we gain from a drive starting at our 20 as opposed the 17 yd line. Takes away the chance for a long return.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:31:30 PM)
I honestly have not studied that situation much. I would agree if he can give you a TB, you should take it. Huston also wants a shot at that job and he has a real strong leg.

BuckeyeDave (Aug 20, 2004 2:31:40 PM)
One last comment for the week: Its my hope that Jim Tresel is the football coach at Ohio State at least until we even up the all-time series with that school up north. If we can do that, we're bound to win some Big10 titles and a Natioanl Champoinship or 2 along the way. Have a great weekend!

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:31:45 PM)
Oh dear ...

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:33:29 PM)
Michigan holds the all-time lead now 57-37-6 after last year's win. JT would have to win the next 20 to even it up. He could go 25-5 and even it up, too, but that would take 30 years and he'd be older than Paterno (ha ha). I don't see that happening. I'm sorry but I'm going to wager none of us will be breathing when/if that series gets even up.

ToledoBucknutty (Aug 20, 2004 2:33:33 PM)
lol Buckeye Dave is a character!!

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:34:22 PM)
Anything else on this rainy Friday?

ToledoBucknutty (Aug 20, 2004 2:39:15 PM)
That number is skewed anyway because scUM won like th efirst 16 meetings in the series!!

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:39:38 PM)
That's right. So really, taking all those away, OSU is just 4 games under .500.

Guest (Aug 20, 2004 2:39:44 PM)
BuckeyeDave should wish in one hand and **** in the other and see which one fills up first..

Biggieval (Aug 20, 2004 2:39:50 PM)
thanks steve... appreciate everything

ToledoBucknutty (Aug 20, 2004 2:39:53 PM)
Have a great weekend Steve and Kirk and thanks always for the best damn website in the land...not to mention the best damn chats in the land! GO BUCKS!!!!

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:40:29 PM)
Thanks guys. Forecast for tomorrow is 73 and partly cloudy. The radar shows rain clear to Illinois. I don't know how Tressel does it, but when he wants good weather he usually gets it.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:40:41 PM)
See you all later. And hey, ...

SteveHelwagen (Aug 20, 2004 2:41:17 PM)
watch the ONN Sports Site Preview show tonight at 8 and repeat at 11 or 11:30. JJ, Jerry Rud and myself are on there with Dan Fronczak. The guys at ONN did a fabulous job.

Stay Tuned: I may be available for a Chat beginning at 3:15 or 3:30 p.m. Saturday to discuss the scrimmage. Keep an eye on the Ask The Insiders web site for details on that.

Plus, former OSU assistant Bill Conley will conduct his first Chat for Bucknuts.com subscribers on Mon., Aug. 30, at approximately 3 p.m. Eastern.

Hey, what can we say? Membership has its privileges (ha ha).

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