Good morning, I think I finally made it. Looks like we are having some technical difficulties on the front page but I'm willing to kickoff now and hope more will trickle in as the chat moves along.
GaryHousteau (Oct 22, 2004 10:18:53 AM)
Week number nine of the high school season is upon us and of course our Buckeyes need a big win in the Horseshoe tomorrow. I can't believe the high school regular season is almost in the books.
crazynuts (Oct 22, 2004 10:18:24 AM)
What are your thoughts on Ringer. Seems like a great kid, and it is really unfortunate that he has an injury
GaryHousteau (Oct 22, 2004 10:22:31 AM)
Hi crazynuts...I feel terrible about the Ringer situation. What a great kid who doing all the right things and going about his recruitment in such a positive and classy manner. I've said it already...I hope honors any type of commitment they had previously made to him or his coaches before the injury. This kid will be back on top of his game and I'd love to see him in Scarlet and Gray on Saturdays. I'm hoping he is at the game tomorrow so I can wish him a speedy recovery in person. I was hoping for a Mr. Football shootout down to the wire with him and Sutton. Maybe even deciding it in week 15. So much for that now! God speed.
BlueChip (Oct 22, 2004 10:22:35 AM)
Is JT making the gameplan even more conservative than it has been really the right way to go, in your opinion?
GaryHousteau (Oct 22, 2004 10:27:02 AM)
Hi Bluechip...really at this point there is no other realistic alternative for the offense to pursue. What else can they really do except beat up on a team that they should be able to beat up on. I can see it now...the post game presser will be all fine and dandy after we pummel Indiana but in the long term we've accomplished nothing. There's too many question marks on this team to solve by running the ball successfully against Indiana...if we're able to indeed do that. I guess we will just have to write off this season as one of youth and inexperience and build toward next year. Unfortunately for Indiana, the wrath of Buckeye nation will be upon them on Saturday.
crazynuts (Oct 22, 2004 10:27:07 AM)
Do you think OSU is going to take advantage of Smith's rollout capabilities or are they going to lock him in the pocket all day?
GaryHousteau (Oct 22, 2004 10:31:27 AM)
Other than happy feet that we're likely to see from Smith until he settles in at some point, I don't think we will see much more than the basics so that Smith can do nothing else but come to the line and recognize the defense and try to execute the most basic play against it. He will pass in the pocket but the only rolling pockets we'll see Saturday will likely be from escaping pressure in the pocket. Smith needs to sit in the pocket as long as he can and make football plays. The touchdown to Nicol last week was a great play...I don't care what the situation in the game was. Real nice execution.
nbuck (Oct 22, 2004 10:31:32 AM)
this is for kirk or gary who is ohio state going to get as a running back this year from 1st best guess to last
GaryHousteau (Oct 22, 2004 10:36:25 AM)
Hi nbuck...my best guess from first to last is to lock in Wells and Ringer as many people expect. Despite the injury to Ringer...they have to honor any previous commitment or allusions that they've made to him or his coach. JT's word in Southwest Ohio is at stake here. Next, with JT being the point man in the Stewart recruitment...I have to believe he is their next main target. After Stewart or maybe in addition to him...I think Joe Daniels would like to shore up his situation in the Pittsburgh area by landing Collington. I think any two or even three of those four would be a welcome addition to the backfield stable. I think Stewart or Collington would be considered bigger backs in that group or Reecie types. That's my best guess right now.
cderekw (Oct 22, 2004 10:36:47 AM)
Gary, Why has JT appeared to go out of his way to specifically criticize or downplay what Troy Smith has done or not done the field this yr and at the same time handle JZ with kid gloves?
GaryHousteau (Oct 22, 2004 10:46:32 AM)
Hi cderekw...I'm not sure I agree with basic premise of your question although it might look that way I guess. The point with JT here is that he had to establish a number one quarterback beyond any resaonable doubt so there wouldn't be an ongoing quarterback controversy...which Zwick's play has now allowed there to become one. From some of the people that I've spoken to...Smith has been the one that hasn't been able to pick up the progressions that a quarterback needs to in order to be comfortable with the offense. Now just how complicated the progressions could be with JT running the passing offense is another topic, but it's probably the main thing that put Zwick on the field ahead of Smith in the first place. I look at Zwick's situation now in much the same light as what Nugent went through as a freshman. You have to experience the terrible in order to rise up and reach the ultimate heights. If we abandon Zwick now, despite his shortcomings we are now seeing, then the process would have to start all over
jpbucks (Oct 22, 2004 10:48:23 AM)
how much heat is bollman under
GaryHousteau (Oct 22, 2004 10:53:45 AM)
Hi jpbucks...according to the fans on the websites and everywhere else Bollman would be in a lot of trouble. But I believe there is not a lot of panic among JT and the coaching staff and I'm sure he's still very secure at this time. JT believes that we will ride this storm out and build from it. But since Bollman is the de facto coordinator...and the offensive line play seems to be in disarray...he needs to be held accountable. Or the head coach has some explaining to do if this trend continues. One thing I will mention about Bollman again is that I do believe he is pretty solid and underrated recruiter on this staff.
crazynuts (Oct 22, 2004 10:55:10 AM)
it seems to me like Zwick sitting this one out is a win/ win for both QB's. Smith gets to show his stuff, and Zwick gets to take a step back. It seemed to me that in the last few games his mechanics really fell apart. Is it possible this injury was present a few weeks ago?
GaryHousteau (Oct 22, 2004 11:01:41 AM)
My last answer on the quarterback situation got snipped off at the end and I was going to say that I believe that we need to get Zwick back in sooner rather than later, if he is indeed healthy. He needs to rebuild his own confidence as well as the confidence that the team needs to have in him and the confidence that the fans need to have in him as well. Right now the injury...if that's what it is...gives Smith a chance to show his stuff against Indiana. Let's face it... his two TD passes this year were both things of beauty so we know he can throw a nice ball. Maybe this will indeed give him the opportunity to seize the moment and make a long term case for himself. If Smith has little success against Indiana, however, then Zwick needs to be reinserted back in the equation, unless he truly is hurt. I wouldn't be too worried about Zwick's mechanics because that's never been his forte in the first place.
mulder (Oct 22, 2004 11:01:46 AM)
What's the latest on Chris Wells, and what other juniors are you excited about right now?
GaryHousteau (Oct 22, 2004 11:08:03 AM)
Hi mulder...week 10 of the high school season is my Akron Buchtel vs. Akron Garfield week. This will be my third game with Wells this year and I hope to see him even more in the playoffs. Actually I'm hoping that Nordonia will play Garfield on the first Friday of the playoffs so I can see Wells and their sophomore running back on the same field if that works out. I like DE Rob Rose from Glenville as a nice sleeper prospect for sure. Ignatius has Kirbus and Parris along with a couple of nice junior DE's on their squad. Benedictine is loaded with sophomores and juniors. Jerome Jones of Ursuline is a great looking prospect and so is Joe Underwood for that matter. I don't carry around an ongoing list but I have seen a lot of good juniors and a couple of sophomores this year. Daven Jones is a great looking receiver from Glenville to name another. Mike Hartline at GlenOak is going to be a premiere player as well.
JohnnyBuckeye (Oct 22, 2004 11:08:09 AM)
Are you hearing anything positive about Doering or any other out-of-state OL's?
GaryHousteau (Oct 22, 2004 11:12:27 AM)
Hi JohnnyBuckeye...Nothing new with Doering other than my last update with him when he genuinely seemed to have an interest in OSU. I haven't spoken with Wilson recently but I'm pretty sure OSU has a real decent shot with him. Those are really the only two OOS linemen that I'm familiar with. I have a good buddy who follows ND recruiting and he's given me a couple of names to look at but I don't believe OSU is in on those particular guys right now. I'm sure Duane or Steve might have a better answer for you.
ToledoBucknutty (Oct 22, 2004 11:13:04 AM)
Good morning Gary and Kirk! Boy do our Bucks look flat...why is that? They seemed to have no fire at all last Saturday! So I guess we're all spoiled and it seems the only redemption possible for this season is somehow (haha) kicking the crap out of scUM!! Do you see this getting better next year? It seems like we have recruited so well lately...hopefully a couple of the young guys can be major contributors on the line...I think it was Steve that told me that he felt Kyle Mitchum would start next year from that class. What happened to Person? I thought he was supposed to be the stud there. Thanks guys!!!
GaryHousteau (Oct 22, 2004 11:19:33 AM)
Hi ToledoBucknutty...I think we have to beat Indiana and Penn State at home, no easy assignment right now and face the fact that we're going to get beat at MSU and Purdue to set up a 6-5 or 5-6 scenario at home against Michigan...which I welcome. We better beat Henne and Hart while they're freshman because they're only going to get better. I had commented after a Big 33 practice this summer that I thought both Henne and Morelli looked like better prospects at that stage than any other high school QB that I've seen including the highly touted JZ coming out of high school. I think the intangibles are so important and that's what Henne really has in addition to some nice ability. I think we have good young talent but maybe young is the operative word here. Let's all be patient this year and hope for a 6-5 season and move on. BTW I watched more offense in the first quarter of the MSU-Minn game than I've seen all year from our beloved Buckeyes. Sad.
BlueChip (Oct 22, 2004 11:19:58 AM)
Should Brian Robiskie get an OSU offer?
GaryHousteau (Oct 22, 2004 11:25:39 AM)
Hi BlueChip...I haven't decided yet if I'm going to the Walsh-Hoban game tonight or the Fitch-GlenOak game. I say that because I want to see Chambers from Walsh and they just happen to be playing Hoban so I will coincidentally get to see Sutton again as well. Chambers is having too good of a season to ignore right now. I like Robiskie a lot. He's young but poised beyond his years and football is in his blood. I think he has great frame and great upside to him. He'll turn just17 in December. I want to see what Chambers is about. He's related to Chris Chambers of the Dolphins and maybe we can redeem ourselves from not getting Chris to come to OSU. I'll see if I like Robiskie more or Chambers after tonight possibly. Unless I go to see how Hartline will respond to a big game against Austintown Fitch and the road-grader team that they are. It's Hartline's biggest game under center to date. I have to decide here soon.
SpielmanIsDaMan (Oct 22, 2004 11:23:26 AM)
Hey guys, getting in late so sorry if this has been addressed. I heard Herbstreit this week publicly call for Coach Tressel to hire a top flight OC to run the offense next year. If things continue, do you think there will be a shakeup in the offseason?? thanks, Go Bucks
GaryHousteau (Oct 22, 2004 11:33:59 AM)
I think JT's comment about not consulting with Kirk if there are going to be changes is very telling about the circle the wagons type mentality that JT believes. Or maybe even have other suggest they circle the wagons like his seniors did this week with regards to the media. No public backlash will deter JT from doing what JT is going to do. Again, he ultimately follows certain tenets or guidelines and believes in what he does because he knows his way is best way to win games. To me, one of the biggest shocks was when Ken Conatser left his staff to pursue a job at Kansas...that made no sense. Somehow other situations...like Spencer and Conley...are reasons were seeing coaching changes on this staff. Maybe Bollman will have another opportunity somewhere else next season. I don't really see much changing after this year. We shall see.
GaryHousteau (Oct 22, 2004 11:37:44 AM)
Thanks to everyone for chatting this morning. Let's hope the Bucks get things together at home tomorrow and get back on the winning track. Enjoy a high school game tonight. My picks tonight are Hoban over Walsh, Fitch over GlenOak and my upset pick tomorrow is Moeller over St. Ed's. Go Bucks!