Conley Chat: Jan. 17 Archive

Here are excerpts from today's Chat session with former Ohio State assistant coach Bill Conley. Coach Conley will be back for his next Chat session on Mon., Jan. 31, two days before national signing day.

muratduke (Jan 17, 2005 3:21:33 PM)
Coach ... Seems to be a reoccurring theme about Ohio State losing out on top recruits down the stretch. What are the many reasons you would attribute this to ??

bucksfan47 (Jan 17, 2005 3:21:41 PM)
Thank you Kdog, I am hoping he does, I feel Tressel, and the staff will wrap this one up! I never lose faith! Go Bucks!

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:21:48 PM)
Hello, we will start in 2 minutes. Will turn on moderation now.

BuckInIll (Jan 17, 2005 3:21:58 PM)
Do you think Biggers gets an offer? Can you compare him to a current or past Buckeye player?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:22:32 PM)
The moderation is on. We will answer the muratduke and BuckInIll questions first ...

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:22:53 PM)
muratduke asks about slow finishes ...

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:23:48 PM)
The biggest problem this year is the pool of players is not as large as it should be. Since Dec. 1, there have been less than 20 visits to campus. Normally that number is around 40. But remember, the great players normally wait until the end of the recruiting process. So your percentages of getting those players anyway are small.

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:24:06 PM)
Only one of 5 schools will be successful for each one of the great players. Four teams will miss out.

Mike68 (Jan 17, 2005 3:24:21 PM)
Coach- How many carries a game do you feel Mo Wells can handle a game? Also, do you see him as a KR or PR? Also, what are his hands like out of the backfield for receivinf?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:25:16 PM)
He definitely will be a returner. He has great big play potential. In a shotgun set offensively, he could be a tremendous threat, probably around 20 carries per game in that type of offense would be normal for a back his size. I think his hands are good, but will need to get a little better.

bucksfan47 (Jan 17, 2005 3:25:24 PM)
Coach Conley, first let me thank you for taking the time to join us today. I really appreciate it. I was wondering your opinion on Mccarthy, from Mooney? Is he what you call a sleeper, or a reach in your opinion? Thank You

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:26:34 PM)
He's probably a reach at this point. He wasn't being heavily recruited by other schools. I do have to say this, the last film I saw on him within the last 2 weeks, he is faster than what I thought. He could fit into the picture as a team type of player, probably not an All-American but a good solid player.

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:27:10 PM)
BuckInIll asked about E.J. Biggers and whether he will get an offer ...

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:27:43 PM)
I don't think he will be offered. He's awful small. The only schools that are still recruiting him hard are Kansas and Western Michigan.

Kdog (Jan 17, 2005 3:27:54 PM)
Bill what have you heard about Gwaltney?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:28:59 PM)
The news seems to be better. I think the friendship with Maurice Wells in San Antonio was a plus, as long as he does not see himself in competition with Wells, which he should not be because he is an entirely different kind of RB. I think the Buckeyes have a good chance at this late date. West Virginia will not give up and USC is always a concern.

Redondo (Jan 17, 2005 3:29:22 PM)
Hi Coach Conley - Thank you for taking my question. What "buying signals" or "non-buying signals" do the coaching staff look for to tell the true intentions of the blue chip recruits in the last month leading up to signing days? Is it as difficult to tell whether a recruit is going to commit to OSU as it appears to us outsiders?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:30:52 PM)
Some of the things you look for as a coach in terms of warning signals toward the end of recruiting are do they still take your telephone calls as much as they did early in the process, are they still scheduling visits of course, do questions come up that reflect negatively on the university that did not come up with before (this means somebody is feeding them that information) and are they as warm and friendly on the phone as they were in the early days of recruiting.

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:31:20 PM)
Keep in mind, this is a moderated Chat. That means all questions come to us and we post them as we're ready to answer them.

muratduke (Jan 17, 2005 3:31:24 PM)
Coach, do you think Troy Smiths actions deserve more then a 2 game penalty ?? If you were the coach, how would you have handled this tough situation ??

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:33:10 PM)
Obviously, there has to be some type of discipline. Until a coach knows the whole story, it's tough to make the call at this point. The concerns of the coach should be are there any other players involved and was this an isolated incident. With what evidence there is at this point, what Coach Tressel (and OSU) did was correct in my mind.

Redondo (Jan 17, 2005 3:33:32 PM)
Hi Coach Conley - how far in advance do the coaches typically know when recruits announce at the Army All Star game whether a prospective recruit is going to select Ohio State? What was the biggest "shock" announcement in either direction you witnessed coming out of that game? Thank you.

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:34:57 PM)
Every athlete is different. Some like to play it up to the last minute. In the case of Maurice Wells, he really indicated a long time ago he was coming to Ohio State. It would have been a major shock if he had chosen Georgia Tech. I don't know if there was any one decision announced that shocked me. I was surprised at how strong Iowa really is finishing.

LV-Buckeye (Jan 17, 2005 3:35:05 PM)
Bill, is it true you offered Mo Wells?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:35:48 PM)
He was the first junior that I was in the high school of last January. I brought the film back to Columbus, we immediately evaluated it as a coaching staff and offered him through his coach.

muratduke (Jan 17, 2005 3:36:08 PM)
Coach, hypothetically lets say we land Lawrence Wilson, would you rather see LW or Frost as the additional TE. Also, what was Frost's injury this year, I have never read what it actually was ?? Thanks and I enjoy reading your comments above all else on Bucknuts. Really happy that we have you here.

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:37:04 PM)
Between the 2, I would keep Frost at tight end and put Wilson on defense. I still think both of them are better defensive players. Marcel's injury was a leg injury, but there were some issues non-physical as well that the coaching staff was dealing with.

scribeohio (Jan 17, 2005 3:37:16 PM)
Coach, if you watched the AA game the East didn't generate any O even with a great OL/RB/WR's. Your thoughts?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:38:18 PM)
I don't think the game was near as good as the one a year ago. I really question the play calling by the East staff. It was very difficult to evaluate some of the players because the game got so out of hand.

muratduke (Jan 17, 2005 3:38:36 PM)
Coach, if we do miss on Gwaltney and seems we will know in 2 days, is offering Ringer out of the question ?? Would you feel comfortable going into 2005 with only 3 scholly TBs

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:39:30 PM)
As long as the coaching staff feels comfortable about Chris Wells, Haw, Pittman and Maurice Wells should be sufficient -- as long as Ohio State still plans on running the spread offense. I worry about short yardage situations without a true big back, however.

Redondo (Jan 17, 2005 3:39:43 PM)
Hi Coach Conley - How big a "blow" was the loss of McCoy to this class? Does this now cripple the line backing corps a couple of years out from now? Thank you.

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:41:11 PM)
I don't consider it a loss because he was never committed. He was one of those guys who was recruited heavily. I believe I said it would be hard to beat Tennessee because they tend to be stronger in that area. It would have been a major get if McCoy would have committed to Ohio State. It is crucial that the LB ranks be solidified with the graduation of Hawk, D'Andrea, Carpenter, Schlegel next year.

scribeohio (Jan 17, 2005 3:41:21 PM)
Coach, what is your gut feel about Lawrence Williams?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:41:31 PM)
You mean Lawrence Wilson, obviously ...

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:41:51 PM)
I would still give Ohio State a 55 percent nod. ND is coming in late and watch out for Michigan.

bucklover (Jan 17, 2005 3:42:07 PM)
Coach-most of the time does the staff know what a player is going to do? With all of the time spent building relationships they must be pretty honest most of the time no?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:43:13 PM)
Most of the time, the staff knows what a young man is thinking throughout the recruiting process. When moods, attitudes and new questions come about, you know as a coach something is going on.

MiniBus (Jan 17, 2005 3:43:34 PM)
Bill: Why would the current staff be unwilling to wait on what seems like decent OOS talent like Anderson Russell and Eric Sledge, but wasnt willing to wait on Myers-White. Also what did you hear regarding Conredge Collins

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:45:12 PM)
It's always been the opinion at a place like Ohio State that there are a lot of guys like Anderson Russell in Ohio. You only want to recruit the great or potentially great players from out of state. I'm not sure Collins fits in that category. The Myers-White situation is a little different. Injury, attitude, etc. brought about the final decision not to take him.

Guest (Jan 17, 2005 3:45:23 PM)
Coach C-in your opinion who is the starting tailback next year for theOSu game 1? Who is the starter when Big 10 play starts?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:45:41 PM)
bucklover asks about tailback to open the season and to start Big Ten play ...

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:46:19 PM)
At this point, you would have to say Pittman is the leading candidate. But with spring practice and two-a-days to evaluate Haw and Wells, I really believe that is a wide open position.

BuckInIll (Jan 17, 2005 3:46:31 PM)
Since Lydell just played his last game, can you comment on his career. What is he missing to be a great back? Will he get drafted? If so how high?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:47:37 PM)
I think it was important for Lydell that he had a good Alamo Bowl. That should have helped him out to the point that he has a chance of getting drafted on the second day. Unfortunately, he didn't show the toughness and cutback ability a great TB needs to play in the NFL. Hopefully, his best football is ahead of him.

muratduke (Jan 17, 2005 3:47:59 PM)
Coach, I am still upset about the Purdue loss. I feel that Snyder did not play a press defense like he should have in that last driive as an injured Orton went 7 for 7 in scoring in the final minutes. This same hands off and play off by 10 yards style of defense was highly attributable to our loss at Northwestern. Do you agree ?? Do you feel we do not play aggressive enough with our CBs and allow long drives that hurt us ?? thanks

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:49:58 PM)
I am certain that if the coaching staff had it to do over again, they would have pressured Orton from the beginning of the drive. Understand, the secondary of Ohio State wasn't at full strength at that point, either. You don't want to give up the big play. At the same time, it was apparent that Purdue needed to be pressured long before they got to the red zone. It should have been an Ohio State victory.

pabuck1 (Jan 17, 2005 3:50:10 PM)
Hi Coach, Coach we could use you down the home stretch, have you given any pointers to Coach Peterson ?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:51:12 PM)
Don't relax on any of the committed athletes at this point. Never take anything for granted, even with in-state players. As other schools start losing recruits to their competition, they'll come back in on kids they haven't contacted in several weeks. Stay alert, finish strong, don't relax.

artbytes1 (Jan 17, 2005 3:51:39 PM)
Thanks for all of your insight Coach Conley. My question is that, at least to the casual recruitnik, OSU has appeared to limp across the recruiting finish line the last couple of years. Not only is OSU not getting those Blue Chippers that are still considering them but tend to lose a few as it gets closer to LOI day. Is the staff being "outworked" or is it more just a matter of coincidence. It would sure be nice to get a pleasant surprise for once!

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:52:59 PM)
Again, as mentioned before, the biggest problem is the pool of players has not been large enough. Normally by this time of year, we would have visited between 35 and 40 players in the 3 big recruiting weekends of Dec. and Jan. The number that have actually visited this year is less than 20. You have to hit a lot of home runs to fill up your needs with great players.

Redondo (Jan 17, 2005 3:53:10 PM)
Hi Coach Conley - Do you think the "allegations" and continued swirl surrounding the program were the real reason for the loss of Bemoll and McCoy, or was it a convenient excuse in your opinion? thank you.

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:54:15 PM)
Because both of those players were from out of state, especially Bemoll being from Calif. with no Ohio teams and he was recruited so early, I never would have counted him as a solid commitment, irregardless of any allegations or problems. As far as McCoy is concerned, Tennessee is tough to beat in that area.

mattent2b (Jan 17, 2005 3:54:30 PM)
Coach: How did you think Boone performed at the AA game?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:55:13 PM)
I believe he played well, even though I didn't quite understand what the East squad was trying to accomplish. He should be an outstanding football player for the Buckeyes because of his athleticism.

woodster (Jan 17, 2005 3:55:22 PM)
Coach, what is your thoughts on Haw?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:56:25 PM)
I think Erik Haw has a definite chance of being the starting tailback next fall. He is at least as talented as Pittman. There are issues that Pittman must deal with, as noted toward the latter half of the season.

ImBack45 (Jan 17, 2005 3:56:34 PM)
Bill, If you can say, do you remain in touch with Peterson and if so, do they ever call and ask advice?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:57:05 PM)
John is a good friend and of course, everyone knows he played for me at Middletown High School. We talk about every other week about various things, including recruiting.

jackson (Jan 17, 2005 3:57:14 PM)
Coach, nice call on the usc/ou game(and the bucks season). What percentage do you give the Bucks to make the next rose bowl .

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:58:33 PM)
I think the biggest concern at this point is the kicking game. If, for some reason, we can get someone close to the talents of Nugent, as consistent at long snapping as Kyle Andrews and a solid punter, we can definitely make it to the Big Dance.

Guest (Jan 17, 2005 3:58:49 PM)
Coach-what players break out in 05-06. I think Richardson, Frost, Mitchum, and D'Andrea shine.

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 3:59:01 PM)
bucklover asks about breakout players for 2005 ...

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:00:49 PM)
The one player who impressed me toward the end of the season was Quinn Pitcock. Also, Ashton Youboty has come on. The improvement by Mike Kudla at DE, along with Jay Richardson, should return that defensive front to one of the most solid units on the team. The player in my opinion that needs to play up to his potential is Roy Hall. If he can do that, that gives the Buckeyes a quadruple threat at WR, along with Ginn and Holmes and Gonzalez. That could be one of the best receiving corps in America.

Guest (Jan 17, 2005 4:01:06 PM)
Bill......Gwaltney seems to be the big story the last couple days. Do you see him really going to OSU or is he just playing us. Also, he now says he will anounce feb. 1

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:01:26 PM)
Spuds 51 asks about Gwaltney and whether he is going to OSU or is just playing us ...

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:02:19 PM)
It always bothers you when recruits continually change their mind about when they're going to announce. That means they really don't know themselves or they're simply seeking attention. Once somebody says they're not going to decide until Feb., it's a crap shoot.

Guest (Jan 17, 2005 4:02:27 PM)
Hey Coach, who among our perspective targets do you think we land down the stretch?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:02:42 PM)
Jkrop asks which targets OSU can figure to land ...

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:02:59 PM)
Probably Lawrence Wilson, Kyle McCarthy and a good shot at Gwaltney.

kambocan (Jan 17, 2005 4:03:23 PM)
Coach thanks for taking our questions today. Do you think we will revisit any recruits who have commited els where and if so, who?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:03:57 PM)
That will only happen if the kid initiates the contact or if there seems to be some late instability in another coaching staff. There really seems to be no indication of that at this point.

toledobuck (Jan 17, 2005 4:04:06 PM)
Coach if Wells and Gwaltney both commit would you expect one of those two to red-shirt?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:04:57 PM)
Not necessarily because Gwaltney is a bigger back, much like a Branden Joe. A big back is needed next year. As far as Wells is concerned, I doubt if he would redshirt at this point either because the TB spot is pretty much up for grabs.

Palmer2 (Jan 17, 2005 4:05:15 PM)
Bill, what do you think about O'neal's performance in the AA game? I thought he played very well and was quick to the ball

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:06:00 PM)
His athletic ability, quickness and speed is one of the reasons why he was a very early offer by the Buckeyes. Barring injury or off-the-field problems, he should be an All-American before he graduates.

WWT (Jan 17, 2005 4:06:19 PM)
I've always thought that if you lose a guy you move on. There will be a new group of recruits next year that you may be able to get, just a good or better, that may come because they depth isn't there that would have been if you'd have gotten the guy the year before.

WWT (Jan 17, 2005 4:06:28 PM)
That said, is that a too optomistic approach to take? Or, from history was there a guy that OSU didn't get that you were just devistated over?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:07:54 PM)
In college football today, there is no tomorrow. You have to go after each great recruit 100 percent. You never know about next year. A great player can get injured, there could be changes in a coaching staff, so recruiting is complete determination every minute possible. ...

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:09:36 PM)
In terms of guys who got away, there are a number of guys looking back that you wish you would have got. There were guys who were great players that you were glad you didn't get. The two players that Penn State got a few years ago in Courtney Brown and Lavar Arrington, they would have been great Buckeyes. But we never really had a shot at either one. Last year, Chad Henne was a young man that we thought was special. Coach Tressel, himself, spent a lot of time recruiting him but never really had a chance when it was all said and done. There are 100 stories like that that every college could tell.

Carr (Jan 17, 2005 4:09:59 PM)
Where do you think Lenix will be played? He looks underrated by how dominant he looks in his videos.

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:10:27 PM)
I think Freddie will probably end up as a safety.

Palmer2 (Jan 17, 2005 4:10:41 PM)
what good linebackers do we already have at OSU besides Freeman and Nicol?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:11:29 PM)
You must mean Freeman and Hoobler. Lukens is a tweener between an LB and a safety. That's why the LB position should be No. 1 in terms of needs for the Buckeyes.

muratduke (Jan 17, 2005 4:11:42 PM)
If the choice is betw taking on some recruits late that we werent really that high on but just to fill the class or to instead, roll them over next year when we have less scholly's available and better talent pool in Ohio ... how do you go about these type of decisions ??

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:12:59 PM)
You don't really get too concerned about saving numbers for the next season. There are so many things that can happen to a player. He may get hurt, he may have academic trouble, he may opt for the NFL draft. It is crucial you keep a full allotment of 85 scholarship players every year. That depth at each position is crucial.

trolley (Jan 17, 2005 4:13:52 PM)
We've heard from many observers that Coach Tressel and his staff have been unable to close strong since he arrived at OSU -- your thougths?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:15:31 PM)
I don't know if that's necessarily true. His first year, we closed extremely strong and kept all but one player right in the middle of a coaching change. Again, I think the biggest problem seems to be the player pool is not large enough. You need to recruit many more players than you can actually take. As a matter of fact, you're allowed to oversign in the Big Ten by 3.

MuskieBuck (Jan 17, 2005 4:15:42 PM)
Is there any additonal news on Wilson, the big DE from Akron? Are we his default choice-is that why he is taking so long?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:16:56 PM)
I don't think that is the situation. I think, as a lot of players do, they get caught up in the recruiting game. It's a compliment to be wanted by a lot of people. Sometimes it's tough to say no to anybody. Only he knows if he's truly made up his mind at this point. Maybe he hasn't.

Palmer2 (Jan 17, 2005 4:17:16 PM)
Bill, it seems like this year that we have been out recruited by Iowa. Do you see a big change in the recruiting powers in the Big Ten? Also, it seems like Iowa got a lot of big Oline and Dline men, but they didnt add any speed. with the way things are changing in the big ten, do you think that is going to hurt them?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:18:16 PM)
I think Iowa has done a tremendous job of recruiting this year. I think they have spread a wide net. The caliber of football player they are recruiting is better than when Ferentz first arrived. They even recruit Florida quite a bit. They work at it very hard. You get as your works deserve.

qbatheart (Jan 17, 2005 4:18:33 PM)
With apparently two different "types" of QB's, Zwick being a pocket type guy and Smith being a scrambler--does this put more pressure on the staff to prepare two different offensive schemes

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:20:12 PM)
This is a very good point you make. I really believe that Coach Tressel needs to make a decision for the future in terms of what type of QB he wants. It's extremely difficult to have a play list that 2 different style quarterbacks can execute equally as well.

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:20:50 PM)
We're going to wind down here in the next 10 minutes. We will look for questions that have not been asked. All questions and answers will be on the archive posted later today.

muratduke (Jan 17, 2005 4:21:03 PM)
If a recruit like McCoy or Worthington are telling Tressel that coach X is madmouthing OSU and making some presumptions about penalties, etc. Does Coach Tressel call and that coach and address the matter or not ?? How would you counter the alleged negative recruiting against OSU that appears to be going on ??

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:22:34 PM)
I would imagine that if a particular head coach would be badmouthing another, it would not be uncommon for the coach to call the other and bring into question the ethics of the allegations. Even though there is nothing illegal about badmouthing your opponent, it is considered unethical by the American Football Coaches Association. Different coaches handle things differently.

TheMinnesotaBuckeye (Jan 17, 2005 4:22:52 PM)
Any word on how Nick Patterson is progressing? What's his best position?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:23:25 PM)
I haven't really heard too much about Nick. I think he's caught in a depth situation at this point. He is a very good player and I do believe his day will come.

alabama Buckeye (Jan 17, 2005 4:23:49 PM)
Coach - One area I would like you to comment on as I have lived in the heart of SEC country for the past 20+ years is how and specifically what the SEC and southern schools do and use as opposed to us in regards to recruiting that us Yankees do not?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:25:57 PM)
I think the SEC, first of all, they limit themselves more in terms of the geographical area they cover. You've got heavily populated states like Georgia, Fla. and Louisiana that have a lot of football players and especially a lot of speed. They don't need to reach out as far as the Big Ten schools have to. Therefore, what may seem like better recruiting is really just better odds because of geography. The one exception is Tennessee. Because they're kind of in a border area, they go all directions. Phil Fullmer is the best recruiting head coach in the country because he works at it harder than anybody else. He is on the road more than his assistants.

muratduke (Jan 17, 2005 4:26:12 PM)
Based on what you saw in each respective bowl game and knowing what you know about returning players, whats your early prediction on the Texas game ??

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:27:10 PM)
Because the game is in Columbus and because I believe the Buckeyes will have a stronger defense, at this point I would favor the Buckeyes by 10. The two biggest factors will be, one, if Troy Smith is the starting quarterback and, two, if the kicking game is solid.

Guest (Jan 17, 2005 4:27:22 PM)
Coach , how would you rate the crop of players coming out of ohio next year?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:27:33 PM)
osufan25 asks about next year's class in Ohio ...

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:28:18 PM)
I think it will be one of the better classes in the last 5 years. There is a good mix of talent offensively and defensively.

ImBack45 (Jan 17, 2005 4:28:33 PM)
Coach, Why is it we never seem to be in on any kids from Illinois? Michigan always seems to pluck a couple from there and now Iowa is having a field day. I realize Doering came to visit, but outside of him I can't think of any and you can't tell me none of the football stars in that state are not interested in OSU. What am I missing?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:30:05 PM)
The Chicago area used to be a very strong area for the Buckeyes. Examples would be Tomczak, Kumerow, Joe Montgomery. I really don't believe it is as strong an area overall as it used to be. There is not as much speed year in and year out. There should be a player or 2 a year, though, that the Buckeyes would be interested in.

duluth buckeye (Jan 17, 2005 4:30:32 PM)
Coach, Does JT encourage his coaches to recruit at all costs within the rules(i.e. negative recruiting towards other schools) or does he drive integrity into recruiting.

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:32:09 PM)
Jim Tressel recruits like almost all head coaches. Ohio State never has been a school that does a lot of negative recruiting. Our success and tradition do not warrant that. But it still takes a tremendous amount of hard work and belief that recruiting is more important than the X's and O's you draw on the chalkboard. Coaches that aren't successful don't understand that.

duluth buckeye (Jan 17, 2005 4:33:33 PM)
Coach, It appears from the outside that Coop was much more into "national" recruiting than JT. JT appears to value the 3 and 4 star ohio players over the 5 star OOS players. Is there any truth to that or just a bad perception on my part.

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:34:36 PM)
I think John Cooper definitely believed in a wider recruiting base. At a place like Ohio State, you need to recruit great players every year, no matter where they're from. I think the biggest difference is the amount of time off-season that John Cooper allowed us to spend on recruiting.

yooperbuck (Jan 17, 2005 4:34:47 PM)
How about Smith and Ginn in the backfield at the same time with JZ at the helm?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:36:14 PM)
I really do not believe Troy Smith would be as good as a pure running back than he may be as a quarterback with the potential to run. His strong point of running is being able to step up into the pocket and make things happen as well as running the draw at the QB spot. He's better running when you take more bodies out of the box, not bringing them in.

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:36:30 PM)
Last question coming up (thanks to everybody for a great array of ?? this time) ...

Linda (Jan 17, 2005 4:36:52 PM)
If tOSU does not receive commitments from its list of primary targets, e.g. Ashley, Wilson, Gwaltney, McCarthy, et al, what do you expect from the coaching staff? Will they go after 'lower rated' recruits, or will they be prone to bank the scholarships for next year's class?

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:38:21 PM)
They may take a second look at prep schools, like Fork Union and Hargrave and Georgia Military, to see if any of those kids would meet the academic standards of Ohio State. There is a fine line between just filling your spots up with bodies and filling your spots up with players. My first inclination would be to start recruiting your butt off for great juniors.

BillConley (Jan 17, 2005 4:38:35 PM)
That's all for today. Thanks for participating. See you next time.


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