Helwagen Chat: Feb. 11 Archive

Here are excerpts from Friday's Chat with Bucknuts.com managing editor Steve Helwagen.

rockmason29 (Feb 11, 2005 11:36:56 AM)
Hey Steve- Do you see thad Gibbson as a top 100 guy this year , and is his 4.3 - 40 time somewhere near close??

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 11:38:27 AM)
That's tough to say. I always get wary when I hear 40s under 4.4 or so. But somebody believes he is legit to have an offer from Ohio State this early. I guess you can put him in a top 50 or top 100 list today. But, obviously, those things will change over time.

bugs (Feb 11, 2005 11:38:43 AM)
What are the chances that Mike Vrabel will become a coach for OSU after he retires from the NFL?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 11:40:02 AM)
I know he would like that very much. Vrabes probably has 3-5 more good years left in him with the pros. He has often talked about coaching. Doing it at Ohio State would be great. But the thing is he also has a family. And college coaching is kind of a thankless job, the pay is OK, but the hours and travel are horrendous. Have to believe after this type of NFL career, he is set for life.

getanotherback (Feb 11, 2005 11:40:18 AM)
like most of us i'm excited about the cwells news, but i wonder about all the national championship talk with only three schollarship rb's. with injury and grade challenges to deal with, we're only an injury or grade challenge away from a real problem. tell us of some walk ons (hopefully bigbodied) that we may not be aware of, or are we going to pass 60 times a game

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 11:41:56 AM)
No, they aren't going to pass 60 times a game. They don't have any walk-ons in the program that I would consider as serious threats to help them or get serious playing time. They had guys like Ro Parker and Mike DeMaria here the last couple of years and they never played, so I don't look for any of the walk-ons they have (and they have a couple still at RB) to make any kind of impact. The backup plan appears to be Anderson Russell and Fred Lenix.

BuckeyeDave (Feb 11, 2005 11:42:03 AM)
I posed the same question to Gary yesterday. Chris Wells seems like a cornerstone to the 2006 recruiting class. What other 3 recruits do you think would be the other cornerstones to the '06 class?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 11:43:40 AM)
Well, they've offered 3 Ohio OL and they need probably 3-4 OL in this class to balance things out, so I'd start with Boren, Brown and Smith. After that, they addressed DE with Wilson and Worthington pretty well. Still missing that great athletic OLB. Maybe that is Thad Gibson. The numbers are pretty good across the board. Probably could use an impact DT in this class, too.

MinnesotaBuckeye (Feb 11, 2005 11:43:48 AM)
Steve...what is the latest on Coach Conley coming up here to Minnesota? The Minneapolis papers are all over it...saying that he will be able to tap into Ohio for more recruits...your thoughts on this? Also his relationship with Coach Tress, that press conference on signing day was perhaps enlightening?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 11:45:17 AM)
I spoke to Coach Conley yesterday and he said he did interview with Coach Mason, a former colleague and OSU teammate, at Minnesota. I did not get the impression he is ready to dive back into college coaching. Minnesota already does a real good job in Ohio, I'm sure Conley would help them some here and also in south Fla. The Tressel comment was blown out of proportion. Charles Babb asked a question ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 11:47:32 AM)
Citing what Bill had said in a Chat that the admissions policy actually allows Michigan to take some guys OSU can't take now. Tressel sort of laughed and said what he said. I took it as a joke, as it was intended. This is a dead horse that continually gets beaten. I think regardless of what happened or how it happened, they respect each other for the results they get. Do they have a personal relationship still? I dunno. I don't care.

Toledo Pete (Feb 11, 2005 11:47:53 AM)
Steve... What is the situations with OSU's at risk kids. I know Alberts Dukes is in trouble , but I don't know why. Basically could you give me a run down on past recruits who may never see the field to their own problems.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 11:49:30 AM)
Albert Dukes has been charged with having sex with a minor in his hometown of Belle Glade, Fla. He is out of school at OSU while he goes through the legal system. The hope is the charges will be unfounded and he'll return in time for spring ball. Maupin and E.J. Underwood are also on a team suspension. I assume they still can be in school and have things they need to get done to get back on the field.

BUCK35 (Feb 11, 2005 11:49:36 AM)
Rivals has Boren, Brown, Small, Rose and Wells on the pre evaluated 100 for 2006. Ohio is looking strong. Do you think we get all five? And who else in ohio could end up being a top 100 player in the country when it is all said and done?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 11:50:16 AM)
I think they are all good on Rose and Small. They have Wells. I think they also get Brown. Boren said he has no reason not to attend OSU, so they're probably better than 50-50 there, too.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 11:50:47 AM)
I think Gibson may be a top-100 guy at some point. Maybe one of theQBs if they light people up at the camps.

rockmason29 (Feb 11, 2005 11:50:54 AM)
Steve - How does this years Ohio OL compare to Alex Boone. ....as far as Boren , Smith and so on.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 11:51:40 AM)
I would hesitate to say that anybody is in Boone's category just yet. He was the No. 2 OL in the country. Smith looks good in that video we posted from the title game. No honest opinion on Boren yet.

Pastor Jack (Feb 11, 2005 11:51:49 AM)
Do you have any insight into why Coach JT is seemingly going back on his word to the greyshirt kicker from last year and is now possibly being asked to either wait or walk on? It just doesn't seem to be representative of the ethical JT we all know and respect.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 11:54:15 AM)
That's the way things happen sometimes, I guess. No real explanation to it. I report what Aaron has told me. There could be more to the story. My feeling is they have 2 scholarships left. They need to put the new long snapper, probably Drew Norman, on scholarship. I think they are keeping the other one back in case Thoma, Pretorious or Pettrey or somebody else lights them up and wins a kicking or punting job. How fair would it be to those guys if they give it to Pettrey now, then one of them wins a job and can't have one? On the surface, it does not look good. But I'm not sure we have all of the data. You have to look big picture, I guess.

mike (Feb 11, 2005 11:54:36 AM)
Steve, I saw a quote from Rose saying he is waiting until next year's signing day to announce. How does the staff recruit someone like this?? He got a really early offer and was at Junior day. Now there is a whole year of recruiting. Seems like the early offer would help sway him to OSU, but he's willing to wait it out. This just leads to a late offer by someone who hasn't spent a lot of time recruiting him, and a late push by a USC or Miami with a ton of late attention could sway him at the end. Thoughts?? Thanks!

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 11:56:17 AM)
This is how the Glenville kids like to do it. The reason is simple: Glenville got 12 kids signed this year to various places. By having the headliners wait, they keep the traffic of coaches coming through there strong. It is a total team effort at Glenville. Ohio State will be clued in by Coach Ginn as they need to be (i.e. the dreaded silent verbal) when the time is right. But this way the kids like Lenix get to take some nice visits, too.

MinnesotaBuckeye (Feb 11, 2005 11:56:37 AM)
Steve...thanks for your forthright comments regarding Coach Conley and Coach Tressel. One thing I have heard related to the recruitment of Alex Daniels is that he and his two teammates came as a package deal to Minnesota. Did you hear this as well? Could it have been the case that Alex didn't want to go to Ohio State unless his fellow schoolmates came with? And what was the story on those guys, have you ever heard of this happening like this before?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 11:58:49 AM)
I don't know that it was a package deal, per se, but it made it much easier for AD to go there to be around people he knew. They'll probably room together there, I would think. I'm not sure OSU was interested in Jones or Massey, although you'd have to be blind to not see what Jones brought to the table in the D-II title game vs. Avon Lake. For Minnesota, it was an easy decision to take a couple of guys they liked already in hopes of landing the big fish (AD). It does happen -- not so much at Ohio State, where every scholarship needs to be filled with a kid that can help you beat Michigan.

edbuck51 (Feb 11, 2005 11:59:10 AM)
I know it's difficult to pinpoint when the NCAA will be done with the football investigation, but in general what do you think? Before the end of spring practice? How much stuff could there be to look at. The Smith stuff seems pretty cut and dried, and they've already talked to the booster, and the Clarett stuff is a rehash. Just curious.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:00:28 PM)
I'm not sure spring football factors into this equation at all. I would think sometime before June 1. The last probe took about 5-6 months, so this one probably will, too. That's all I have to go on. They want to be thorough, but they also want to clear the case, I'm sure, as well.

05theyear (Feb 11, 2005 12:00:35 PM)
Just out of curiosity what do you think was the best team OSU ever had. Even though we we won it al in 02 I think that 98 the the best we ever had. 69 team dont remmeber. diffeence between 98 and 02 IMHO was the coach. But everything we had in 98 was great

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:00:47 PM)
Oh wow!!!

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:00:57 PM)
They have had some great teams here ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:01:55 PM)
I think it's hard to compare even the 70's to today because the athletes are bigger and stronger and probably just a tad faster (or in Teddy's case, a lot faster). It's like people comparing today's Patriots with the 70's Steelers. All you can do is compare how well they dominated in their era, I guess.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:03:17 PM)
Going back the last 12 years, the 93, 95, 96, 98 and 02 teams were all extremely special. 93 had Big Daddy, 95 had Pace and Springs and Glenn and George. 96 had Pace and Springs and Vrabes. 98 was Katzenmoyer, Germaine, Boston, Winfield. 02 was Krenzel, Doss, Wilhelm, Reecie. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:05:33 PM)
The 95 and 98 teams were probably the best offensively. 98 was better than 95 defensively. 96 and 02 were real good defensively. If those 98 and 02 teams played each other, that would be one hell of a football game, I'd say that. 98 lost the only nail-biter they had, pretty much, to MSU, while 02 lived on the edge the last 7 weeks. 98 was dominant, but lost a game. 02 was not so dominant, but won every game.

Toledo Pete (Feb 11, 2005 12:05:50 PM)
I heard JT had problems at YSU with some players recieving improper benefits. Are we wearing rose colered glasses about him because he woops the UMorons and wins bowls? If we are is it that JT gets so involved in coaching football that the kids kind of run crazy? He seems like a class act with strong moral fiber, or am I reading too much into to guy who wears big bright white shoes with dark grey pants?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:09:04 PM)
In Cols., beating Michigan (he's 3-1) and winning bowl games (he's 3-1 and won the last 3) is supposed to cure all ills. I am not distressed that they had problems at YSU. The only thing distressing about that is Ray Isaac's quote that JT told him he wanted him to tell the truth to the NCAA, but he, himself, did not want to know. That kind of fits with not reading the Times article on Reecie, etc. Kind of a "what I don't know won't hurt me" kind of thing. At the end of the day, though, he is accountable. I think he has worked hard to educate his players and counsel them on what is right and what is wrong. But they have not heeded those messages. Complex issue, indeed, but I still think this is the right guy for this job.

BMC (Feb 11, 2005 12:09:37 PM)
Steve, do you think C. Wells will be the best back in the country this year?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:10:59 PM)
Hard to say. Just like when I raised hell over Mo Wells' rating. I do not have tape of the top 25 backs for this year and next year. That's not my job to rate the kids. I would say this. His name is out there. He is the kind of athletic big back they apparently like (since the experts didn't like Mo). If he has another great year and puts some people away, he will be in the top five or 10, certainly.

getanotherback (Feb 11, 2005 12:11:04 PM)
is there any great wr that we gotta have,that we're on and that we have a real shot

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:12:31 PM)
Alliance Marlington''s Troy Paisley, Glenville's Daven Jones, CSI's Robby Parris will all get solid looks. Maybe around camp time, sort of with Hartline, one or more will be offered. Outside Ohio? Not real sure. Nobody offered yet that I know of.

BuckeyeDave (Feb 11, 2005 12:12:40 PM)
Steve - Gary said you were "The Man" to ask about getting Rose Bowl tickets. The game is a contractual sell-out every year. How does an Average Joe like me get tickets without having to pay a scalper an arm and a leg?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:15:28 PM)
It's sad, but that is what it has come down to. I have a friend who has become a "member" of the Orange, Sugar and Fiesta Bowls (not sure Rose offers this plan). He buys tickets every year to each game. Then goes on ebay and sells the ones he doesn't want or ones OSU is not playing in. That's a neat angle right there. And he comes out ahead if there is a hot title game he can get 2-3 times his money for the tickets (and he isn't going). But the Rose Bowl this coming year -- especially with USC supposed to be in the mix -- will be an extremely difficult ticket. My guess is face value will be $125 or thereabouts and the market value will again be $400-$500 for even the bad seats. Just the way it is.

Pastor Jack (Feb 11, 2005 12:15:52 PM)
Do you think JoPa will actually coach State Penn another 2 years, or will the dismal rescuiting the past few years just be too much a strain for the 'old man'?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:17:16 PM)
Somehow they got Justin King, Derrick Williams and a top LB from N.J. Jerome Hayes to go there this year, so he is still doing OK with recruiting. Many thought he'd be out after this past year. They start over at QB with Mills gone, so this year doesn't figure to be much better than .500. I think another sub-.500 year and he has to go.

BUCK35 (Feb 11, 2005 12:17:25 PM)
Who do you see out of state that TOSU has a good shot at landing? I know its early but do we have any in's with the TE from Mission Viejo or any others like that?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:18:35 PM)
Too early to say. They have a few offers out there. But, really, doesn't heat up until June when these kids can get out and see some places and camp a little bit. That's when things got going with Sanchez last year, if you'll recall. Too early to say with any definitive degree.

05theyear (Feb 11, 2005 12:18:52 PM)
What do you think the player are thinking with this season coming up. They know what it takes to win a title and some were there in 02. Maybe this is a stupid quesion but do you think JT will bring in alot of 02 guys to pump them up before the games

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:20:05 PM)
No, they don't do a lot of gimmicky stuff like that. I think this team needs a leader like a Doss who says get behind me. Who is that on this team? Hawk, maybe. You'd say Troy but he betrayed the group with his behavior. Maybe he can regain that spot as the season wears on with the way he plays.

Guest (Feb 11, 2005 12:20:19 PM)
What are your thoughts on the departure of OC Norm Chow from USC and the effects of this there down the line? How about the OC position here at tOSU in the future?

Toledo Pete (Feb 11, 2005 12:20:27 PM)
When will the ranking for the recruits come out for recruits for the 2006 class? I know you probably aren't given a schedule but what does the past indicate?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:22:16 PM)
On Scout, I believe they probably revealed their top 100 in April or May last year. They don't want to do a list for the sake of doing a list. They devote all of their resources to seniors, so I can understand that. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:23:52 PM)
We will be having a convention with them in the spring. At that time, I am going to suggest that they appoint/hire somebody as their "underclassman specialist." This guy can start culling video of the top juniors and sophs and work exclusively on that. Then, after signing day, he would be ready to release his findings across the network and it would be treated as a "starting point." I am tired of reading questions of "why don't we have rankings" and "the other guys do."

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:25:28 PM)
This is not a knock on anybody. But sometimes the early lists are flawed and we end up with guys on national top-100 lists that don't even get a Big Ten offer. You have to put the time in to properly evaluate before you attach your name to a ranking, I think. (And I'm not being critical of the other network. They did a common sense thing and said it was a pre-evaluation list, so you have to take it with a grain of salt.)

Toledo Pete (Feb 11, 2005 12:25:39 PM)
The 98 team did not lose that game to MSU. Coop did. He had to 4th and ones in field goal range and came out with no points. Always take the points!

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:27:05 PM)
Good point. They lost that game a bunch of ways ... the all running play drive ... the Germaine fumble that gave MSU a FG that pushed the lead from 1 to 4 at the end ... a freshman named Clements getting hit with a punt ... first and 10 at the 15 at the end and 3 incompletions and an INT ... and on and on and on.

labsbeabmm (Feb 11, 2005 12:27:22 PM)
Re: C. Collins. Could Chris Wells have been the second back in question?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:27:30 PM)
No it was Gwaltney.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:27:59 PM)
Not saying he verbaled, but Tressel did not want to take Collins and Wells and then tell Collins no thanks if Gwaltney verbaled later. They gambled and lost.

05theyear (Feb 11, 2005 12:28:14 PM)
Another thought wouldnt it be great if USC goes undefeated and we do and meat int the Rose bowl. With USC on a 25-0 run and they would get to meet the mighty OSU. And yes OSU is an underdog and yes there is no way we can win and yes 2 titles in 3 years. Man i wish 05 was here

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:28:33 PM)
And no Norm Chow now either. Petey will get to see if it was him or Norm, huh?

MinnesotaBuckeye (Feb 11, 2005 12:28:39 PM)
Steve, Buckeye basketball question...men and women...with regards to the guys...how far do they go in the Big Ten tourney, since that is our post-season? Out of the last 6 regular season games do they get a split to get to 19 wins or more? And with the women...WOW...can the "don't call 'em the Lady" Bucks win it all...and will the crowds be there for em?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:28:59 PM)
First the men ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:32:17 PM)
I thought a 6-3 finish was possible, others said 4-5 or 5-4. This next game is the key. If they can't win at Penn State, then they will probably finish below fifth in the Big Ten and miss the opening round bye. They have to win this game. PSU is beyond terrible. Just lost by 27 to 6-16 Purdue. Then, I think OSU should beat Indiana and have a chance to beat Minnesota there, Wisconsin here and/or Iowa there (without Pierce). I think they can write off Illinois. It will be a great spectacle, but Illinois is just too tough. ....

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:33:24 PM)
If they go 3-3 from here, that's 19-11. They probably go in as the sixth seed and blast Purdue in the BTT opener to get 20. Then, they'd probably play Wisconsin in the quarters. That is probably the end of the line. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:34:13 PM)
If they somehow go 4-2 from here, that's 20-10 and they probably have the five seed and a date with bubble team Minnesota. Let's just say if the Gophers "need it" I don't see OSU winning it (got me?). They end up 20-11 either way.

BuckeyeDave (Feb 11, 2005 12:34:25 PM)
Gotta plug Bucknuts -the Magazine. I read it when I'm on the cross-trainer for my workout and the time flies by. Great job! Great magazine!

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:34:34 PM)
I forgot the women ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:36:02 PM)
Thanks for the comments Dave. Much appreciated. We have put a lot of time, effort, money and energy into that mag. The first year it was out it was 32 pages. Now it's as big as Sports Illustrated (80 pages every week, with the next one 144 because of the 64-page recruiting insert). The photography is great between Getty Photos and the ones Terry Gilliam and Gary Housteau send in. I think it makes the annual subscription a no brainer.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:36:06 PM)
Now for the women ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:39:03 PM)
They just keep right on barreling along. My hope is that they get 19,200 for the season finale against PSU. That game is at 6 after OSU men host Wisconsin at 2. That will be kind of neat to spend all day there. Hopefully folks will take in both games. That PSU game could be for 15-1 in the conference and maybe, by that point, a No. 1 ranking (although LSU looked tough against the Vols last night). They just need to keep taking care of their business. I see a one seed in the NCAA in their cards. Then from there, it's all about the draw and who they get as an 8-9 in the second round and a 4-5 in the third round and so on. But they should be fun to watch down the stretch, through the BTT in Indy and on to the NCAA. Just two losses so far all year. They are having one of the great seasons in school history ... in just about any sport.

Toledo Pete (Feb 11, 2005 12:39:39 PM)
If I were you, I might mention Fred Davis to getanotherback. Word in my neck of the woods is he is very unhappy out west and is talking to BGSU. It only seems natural for a discussion with OSU. Also, the Bucks are holding a few scholarships. HMMMMM! Makes you think.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:40:27 PM)
Fred Davis is bound by his letter of intent for USC through the entire freshman year.. He'll go through spring ball and maybe things will change. But, yes, there have been some rumors that he wants out.

Guest (Feb 11, 2005 12:41:08 PM)
Is R Rose fast enough to be a outside linebacker? It seems with the WWW on board at DE we got deep fast at that position.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:41:28 PM)
Buck35 asks about Robert Rose possibly playing OLB because of the sudden logjam at DE ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:42:21 PM)
No, I don't see it. Rose is 6-5, 230. I say he fills out to 6-5 or 6-6 and 260 or better. You can't have enough big guys who can run. You lose Kudla after this season and Richardson after next I believe, so you do need to replenish there.

Guest (Feb 11, 2005 12:42:29 PM)
ESPN's pre-season top 25 1.USC 2. TEXAS 3.MICHIGAN 4.TENN. 5.IOWA 6. OKLAHOMA 7.TOSU. This would be great for the bucks if thats the case. You want to beat the best.

BuckeyeDave (Feb 11, 2005 12:42:43 PM)
Do you think that U$S's loss of Norm Chow will impact the trojans as much as Ohio St's loss of Dantonio impacted the Buckeyes?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:42:49 PM)
Great question ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:44:44 PM)
It did take OSU about half a year to jell defensively, but some of that was youth not entirely scheme. I have no idea who is going to replace Chow, so I can't say. But he defintely got some great results. I think it hurts them, at least in the short term. Kids wanted to go there to learn from him.

edbuck51 (Feb 11, 2005 12:44:54 PM)
What role do you think Coach Peterson had in the early offers, and two nice commits? Do you think this is the beginning of him putting his stamp on the recruiting program, or is it all of the coaches putting it together?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:46:42 PM)
I think they are doing things as a staff and, really, with Tressel more involved than perhaps in the past. They knew they needed Wells and Homan and made strong pitches to land them ... and did. So whatever they're doing ... keep doing that.

edbuck51 (Feb 11, 2005 12:46:47 PM)
What are your thoughts on Coaches Matta and Foster?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:47:02 PM)
Best combo of men's and women's coaches in the country, I feel ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:47:28 PM)
OK, maybe Auriemma and that caustic Calhoun (or is it the other way around) would have something to say about that ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:48:30 PM)
But seriously, the things I have seen so far have been great. Foster has taken this program to the top of the Big Ten and the country in 3 years. They have helped Davenport really blossom. She's an All-American this year, guys and gals.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:49:23 PM)
And Matta was dealt a crappy hand (late start and postseason ban) and still has the guys playing hard and doing everything they can. The big test for him is filling all of these scholarships they have (5-6) with great players to solidify the future. The next 4 months will be telling in that regard.

edbuck51 (Feb 11, 2005 12:49:31 PM)
Do you think there should be a change in the wrestling program?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:49:37 PM)
No. I don't ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:51:57 PM)
Yes, they are having a terrible year this year, but they are young. I know Geiger was unhappy with finishing eighth in the Big Ten meet in their own building last year, but Hellickson was redeemed with another Rowlands title and a third-place team finish at the NCAA. I know the lack of scholarships has been a problem for Hellickson in years past (i.e. he has to parcel some of his out and maybe some of his competition does not). I think he's earned a chance to turn it around. Ohio wrestling is really good in the high school ranks. Some would say he has not capitalized on that. But Iowa is always going to be Iowa (like Indiana used to be in basketball, etc.).

redondo (Feb 11, 2005 12:52:19 PM)
Steve - Please thank Dave Biddle for the just posted interview article with Lee Corso. Outstanding!!!!

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:52:48 PM)
I will. That was Mr. Bucknuts' doing in helping that get arranged around Lee Corso's visit to Ohio earlier this week. Glad you liked it!

edbuck51 (Feb 11, 2005 12:52:55 PM)
Do you think losing Anderson, Smith, Scott, Reynolds, Gamble and Allen had more of an impact than losing Dantonio? Tressel promoted Snyder who also went through a learning curve where maybe bringing in a more experienced outside guy you might not have had a drop off. To me it was more gaining experience than missing Dantonio. On the other hand, the media will lament on Chow's departure if USC loses, and won't mention the other four coaches who left.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:53:27 PM)
Yeah, as I said, they were young. USC has Leinhart back, so that's a different landscape, certainly, for that offense.

edbuck51 (Feb 11, 2005 12:53:35 PM)
Why is it that some coaches are good women's basketball coaches but never go over to the men's side? Tressel went from 1-AA and is successful at 1-A, but you never see a basketball coach go from women to men, or vice versa.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:55:55 PM)
Hard to say. I think Summit had a chance once to take over the UT men's program and turned it down. Not sure about Auriemma. The thing is it's women's basketball. The pressure is nowhere near as great as it is with the men. You have to work just as hard, certainly, to get the same results (i.e. recruiting, scouting, etc.) in the end. But the flip side is if you only go .500 and only draw 2,000 fans a game, you haven't blown the athletic department's budget for a year like you would if you falter with a men's program, which is expected to get to the NCAA and draw 15,000 a game.

edbuck51 (Feb 11, 2005 12:56:17 PM)
Is there any buzz on the winter conditioning program for football. This seems to be when the championship runs get started. Any word on how hard they are working in there and who the leaders are?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:56:41 PM)
They are lifting now. The running and heavy duty training with the morning program begins later this month.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:56:54 PM)
Those are closed, by the way, so no idea who's doing what to whom.

edbuck51 (Feb 11, 2005 12:56:59 PM)
The buzz on QB's next year seem to be on Hartline, Schlitcher and Davis. Do you think those are the top three in the coaches eyes, or are they looking at Teebow and other top out of staters?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 12:59:32 PM)
I can't speak for them. The only indication I got was from Davis, himself, who was told he was essentially competing for an offer with Hartline and Schlichter. I think that staff would fall over itself to get a national QB like Tebow (I saw one list that said he was No. 1 nationally at the position) and he'd be a prototype Tressel QB with 3,000 yards passing and 1,000 rushing this past year. But I think they are realistic to know they may have a hard time luring that type of guy in since Smith/Zwick will still be starting in 2006. My feeling is they will go through the camp phase, pick one Ohio guy to offer and go from there. My money is on Hartline with Davis right there with him.

edbuck51 (Feb 11, 2005 12:59:47 PM)
Are there any commits for this last class coming in early besides Cordle?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 1:00:01 PM)
No, not aware of any. Cordle is the only one they announced on signing day.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 1:00:15 PM)
Is there anything else today?

Guest (Feb 11, 2005 1:00:23 PM)
Thanks again Steve.

wwt (Feb 11, 2005 1:01:50 PM)
With Harline's brother here already I can't see him going anywhere else (assume he's offered). I think the Schlichter name has too much baggage for OSU - it would be better for both parties if he went to another school. With that in mind, I think Hartline is the guy - of course I haven't seen either play a down. Is there much difference between the two? Do they really think one will develop much over the next 6-9 months to seperate themselves from each other?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 1:03:40 PM)
Hartline is probably 6-5, 190, while Schlichter is 6-1, 185. Those are rough estimates. Hartline probably needs to fill out to 205 or 210, but that's probably the biggest knock on him. I think most coaches would like to see Schlichter grow an inch or 2. I agree the next 6-9 months will be key for these guys. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 1:05:12 PM)
I would disagree on the Schlichter name working against Miles. He has been a fixture around the OSU practice facility for several years, seems to be a great kid. You can't hold something his uncle did against him. Tressel is very comfortable with him, I'm sure. If he and the coaches deem he is No. 1 on their list, then that is who will get the offer (and almost certainly accept). That goes for all 3 of those guys. If OSU offers, they will be there with bells on.

getanotherback (Feb 11, 2005 1:05:17 PM)
of the early offers is anyone else close to saying "i do"

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 1:05:39 PM)
No, no inclination of that. Maybe the OL Brown, although I heard he may wait a while. We'll see.

wwt (Feb 11, 2005 1:05:43 PM)
One last question - is Hartline a QB all the way or could he be in for a position change?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 1:05:48 PM)
No, QB all the way.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 11, 2005 1:07:07 PM)
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