Telep Chat: March 29 Archive national recruiting editor Dave Telep joined us in the Bucknuts Hoops Chat Room Tuesday to discuss the verbal commitment of Dayton Dunbar's Daequan Cook, OSU basketball and much more. Click here for excerpts from today's Chat.

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:04:27 PM)
Steve, hey, how on earth did you manage to get Michigan State right anyhow?

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:05:20 PM)
Who would have imagined Michigan State making the final four with Chris Hill hitting ONE 3-pointer the entire tournament thus far

Steve Helwagen (Mar 29, 2005 2:05:27 PM)
I just believed their seniors would get the job done. Duke had not impressed me, I guess. They just always scrape by. That leaves them vulnerable. And UK's SEC title game wipe out was a sign for me as well.

Steve Helwagen (Mar 29, 2005 2:05:59 PM)
How would it be to beat Duke, Ky, and UNC in succession? I'm picking an all-Big Ten final.

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:06:12 PM)
that would be great for the Big Ten

Steve Helwagen (Mar 29, 2005 2:06:21 PM)
I think MSU's athletes will slow down the UNC transition game and I think MSU is better in a halfcourt game than UNC.

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:06:29 PM)
Good afternoon everyone!

Steve Helwagen (Mar 29, 2005 2:06:34 PM)
Telep, I'm sure will tell me I'm on crack ...

riverwatchbucknut (Mar 29, 2005 2:06:36 PM)
Yeah I love it when the ACC goes down

OTC (Mar 29, 2005 2:06:36 PM)
paul davis can slow may down too

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:06:38 PM)
Hello Mr. Telep

Steve Helwagen (Mar 29, 2005 2:06:52 PM)
but I'm picking MSU over UNC and Illinois over Louisville.

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:06:56 PM)
I'm ready, stretched my fingers out and everything!

Steve Helwagen (Mar 29, 2005 2:06:59 PM)
I will bow out and listen in.

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:07:01 PM)
Well, I guess we should go ahead and get started!

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:07:06 PM)
Ill turn the moderation on

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:07:23 PM)
Okay, let's go ahead and fire away!

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:07:44 PM)
First question Dave....

OTC (Mar 29, 2005 2:07:48 PM)
in talking with recruits over the past week, has the cook verbal been noticed by them?

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:09:18 PM)
I think the Cook commitment has been noticed by everyone. He's a big time headliner in the class and what his commitment does is two fold 1) draws attention to the program for other kids to see that it's OK to go to OSU and things are moving in the proper direction and 2) it gives Matta and Co. massive street cred to walk into the gym and make their pitch to high level players having already amassed a commitment from a top freshman and a legit junior.

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:09:24 PM)
We have a question from MrLogic who couldn't be with us today.. he asks if there are any 2006 out-of-state recruits that Ohio State might lead for or are doing really well with?

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:11:23 PM)
I don't know if you could say they lead for any out of state guys right now. One they are looking at is Albert Jackson out of Kentucky. BUT, with the in-state guys they've got pretty good border control going and protecting your in-state assets is a MAJOR part of the future success of this program. Obviously this current commitment didn't hurt them with Conley!

riverwatchbucknut (Mar 29, 2005 2:11:33 PM)
Dave how huge of a recruit is Cook to OSU? Who would you compare him to and do you think he will bring any other national recruits with him?

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:13:20 PM)
I think he can be a Ray Allen type. He's got that kind of a body and the same kind of ease and smoothness to his jumper. Cook knows who he is. He's great shooting it from the elbows and will wear you out from mid-range. He's much more explosive than at first glance and has been a scorer his entire life. OSU will NEED for him to assume that role upon arrival so it's not like you are asking him to do something he's incapable of doing.

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:13:34 PM)
UAbuck asks what kind of comparison you may have for Luke Harangody of Merrillville, IN

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:15:01 PM)
Big kid. I'm not sure what comparison I can draw but I can tell you this: he's Big Ten ready with his body. Draw a 5 foot radius around the rim and he's good from that range. To me he's like the big freshman former FB kid Minnesota had this year. Strong, powerful and not easy to move around on the inside. Think a Spencer Tollackson type.

owubuck (Mar 29, 2005 2:15:14 PM)
what are our chances of getting Dallas Lauderdale?

riverwatchbucknut (Mar 29, 2005 2:15:16 PM)
Dave, what do you think of Dallas Lauderdale (estimated national ranking) and what are you hearing in regards to his recruitment?

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:16:37 PM)
He'll probably begin as a 50-60 type in his class but with bigs like Lauderdale things tend to come together quickly and I can see him having the kind of spring that boosts him even higher. He's got plenty of tools to work with and as analysts become more familiar with his game, he'll move up the charts.

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:16:53 PM)
In terms of Lauderdale's recruitment I'm hearing that OSU is in excellent shape and will be a HUGE factor with him.

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:17:33 PM)
I've had a lot of people want to know just how much of a chance Ohio State has with Conley and Oden (if Oden ends up in college). What are your thoughts on those two Dave?

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:18:50 PM)
Can I explain something: If OSU can capialize on the Cook signing, the implications will be far reaching. The goal of the staff, I assume, is to scare recruiters off in the long term so people understand that they are taking back their state. Putting up barriers around the border is the best groundwork this staff can lay. Once they lock down their region then it'll be time to get some wins and it'll open things up nationally.

riverwatchbucknut (Mar 29, 2005 2:19:45 PM)
According to Kyle there does not seem to be any realistic spring signings for OSU. Is there anyone you may have heard of that OSU has a chance with during the spring signing period

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:19:54 PM)
It sure sounds like Oden and Conley are a package deal to college. If no age limit exists for the NBA then Oden will have to turn down $10 million and so far no one has turned down a chance to be the top pick. I think the Cook commitment had to get some staffs like Wake Forest and Arkansas nervous with Conley so already the Cook deal is having effects. OSU and Wake appear to be the main two with Conley.

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:23:24 PM)
Dave missed the question before.. he's catching up just so you know he hasnt gone anywhere ;)

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:23:40 PM)
Armon Bassett is a guy they like. Can he get the grades? Who knows but they like him. When you are talking about the spring, you aren't just talking about high school. Who know, maybe some kids are unhappy with their present college and it never fails that after the Final Four some transfer news starts popping. In terms of getting guys who can really help out of high school this spring at a place like OSU, the pickings are ridiculously slim. Now. they are involved with a few jucos but nothing firm yet on that end.

riverwatchbucknut (Mar 29, 2005 2:23:47 PM)
How would you rank the top 5 recruits in ohio for 2006? And what are in your opinion OSU's chances with them?

OTC (Mar 29, 2005 2:23:50 PM)
who are your top 5 kids in ohio, doesn't matter what class they are in?

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:26:08 PM)
I likeCook and Lighty better than the rest in 2005. Obviously in 2007, Mayo, Walker and Ellis (watch for him to erupt this spring) are big timers as well. I'm a Raymar Morgan fanbut i'm not sure OSU has warmed up completely to him yet and not sure they will move on Chichester either. I love Lighty and the sheer athleticism that he brings to the table. Shame he got injured because this is a budding super star IMO.

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:26:16 PM)
Dave... here's a follow up on Bassett

MiniBus (Mar 29, 2005 2:26:23 PM)
Dave: What do you think of the PG out of Indiana Armon Bassett? Is he for sure going to the prep route or might he qualify?

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:28:16 PM)
Still up in the air from what i gather about his academics. There is a chance that even if he does qualify he STILL might want to try the prep route (It's important to him that he's viewed as a top guard). Now, I saw him in the summer and viewed him as a mid-major player. I did not see him with his HS team but understand the run they went on and have left room for the possibilitiy that he's a high-major prospect right now. He's certainly getting recruited that way. To make a long story short, I think the young man is deciding on the benefits of a prep year regardless of how his academics work out.

Schaumbuck (Mar 29, 2005 2:28:37 PM)
Dave - Give us an individual read for each player on what you feel the impact on next year's Buckeye team will be from the standpoint of incoming recruits Sylvester Mayes and Brayden Bell. Also, do the same for BGSU transfer Ron Lewis. Thanks.

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:30:33 PM)
Well, Lewis is the guy with the most experience and you can look for him to be a point producer. I know they are really excited about having him in the program and Bowling Green was at a loss when he left. Bell is a big kid who you would think plays inside but he's a perimeter PF. Loves to shoot the three but he's going to have to work out his game on the inside. Mayes is a fast, jitterbug guy who will pull up and has confidence from deep on his shot. Order of impact: Lewis, Mayes, Bell.

Steve Helwagen (Mar 29, 2005 2:30:38 PM)
Regarding O.J. Mayo, people make assumptions and comparisons to LeBron James. It is obvious O.J. is 6-4 and LeBron is 6-8. But from watching O.J. at the state tournament and otherwise, it is clear he has some special skills. In your mind, even at 6-4, can he be one of the handful of "smaller guys" who have made the jump from preps to pros ... and stay there for a while?

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:33:12 PM)
There is little doubt in my mind that OJ can make the jump. The LeBron comparisons are way off base except for one thing: Mayo, like King James, can really pass the basketball. I think he'sa PG in the making. Unselfish, yet high-scoring is a rare and semi-strange characteristic. No way Mayo does what James did that fast in the NBA but we can't kid ourselves either. If he continues to progress (and he has for the last two years) then there is every reason to believe that at 6-4+ he'll be a high draft selection and a fine NBA player. He's very smooth, under control and his demeanor on the court is really outstandng. Now, he's got to stay humble and continue working but I'd bet a lot on him!

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:33:40 PM)
Dave, we have a lot of people who couldn't make it that wanted your opinion on where David Lighty is leaning right now, and how his injury might impact his decision or timeframe of a decisions

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:35:44 PM)
I'm not sure he's in any rush. Syracuse has been hot and heavy since July and poses a threat. If I'm an OSU fan I hope that out of sight, out of mind sets in and the big programs move on with other recruits thus enhancing OSU's chances. There doesn't seem to be any panic in him right now to move quickly but yuo never know how this injury affects his mind once the spring starts and guys start popping.

owubuck (Mar 29, 2005 2:35:49 PM)
is there a player that is relatively under the rader that OSU might get for 06 and would be a surprise?

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:37:27 PM)
Give me the month of April to see some more guys and I'd be more comfortable projecting. It never fails that during the April period someone/many kids take their game to another level and become serious targets. That's why spring recruiting is so exciting. You get to grow your list of potentials so we don't have to talk about the same guys all the time. We'll cover 5 events minimum in the next five weeks at and you just know more targets will emerge.

riverwatchbucknut (Mar 29, 2005 2:37:32 PM)
Dave, OSU is considering Nate Davis from Bellaire in football. There is talk about him wanting to play basketball in college what do you think of him as a prospect?

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:37:59 PM)
Honestly I don't have a read on him as a basketball player.

MiniBus (Mar 29, 2005 2:38:05 PM)
Dave: Albert Jackson out of KY has been mentioning OSU lately if Matta offers do you think OSU has a chance to get him?

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:39:21 PM)
Xavier is in there too and like I said before, he's a guy that could potentially blow up in April. From the sounds of it now, OSu would have a shot. I've been trying to get him on the horn and should have a story in a few days.

ToMac (Mar 29, 2005 2:39:30 PM)
There are differing opinions of Raymar Morgan on this board. How good is he and is he more a wing or a power forward prospect.?

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:42:05 PM)
Frankly, he's got to develop the perimeter aspect of his game to be considered a wing threat. My good friend John Stovall, an authority on hoops in Ohio, projects him to be a 3 man right now. Regardless, you can take a kid like Morgan if at that time in your program you feel you need him. He's probably not for everyone and players like him are valued differently by individual staffs. Me personally, i think he's a solid, four year player that I'd like to have and would start him out at the PF and see how it goes from there.

rbuck (Mar 29, 2005 2:42:13 PM)
Sorry, I joined late. Did anyone ask about Daequan's "70%" commitment, and the fact that he thinks it's a possiblity to jump to the NBA? Is he THAT good?

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:43:47 PM)
He's pretty good. If he's smart, he'll notice how many big kids are going to go ahead of him in next year's draft and head to college. Now, to make the leap he'll have to really start hammering it down off the dribble and at the rim. Does he have a chance? Probably but he's got to have some things go his way. Wing studs like Wayne Ellington and Thaddeus Young are quickly closing the gap on him in regards to best wing in the class so he's got some fending off to do.

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:43:48 PM)
Dave will have to be going here real soon, so we have time for a few more questions if you get them in now...

rbuck (Mar 29, 2005 2:44:12 PM)
Do you see this younger Diebler kid making it to Valpo, or do you think he'll go bigger time? Seems like an awfully good player for such a small time program??

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:45:33 PM)
Well, Valpo is going to try and keep it that way BUT from what I'm hearing after this season and what lies ahead it'll become increasingly more difficult to get him under Homer's control. It's a long time until he enrolls there and if he continues progressing the pressure to go higher usually gets to these guys. Now there is a family tie with Valpo but sometimes that's just not enough!

buckmark (Mar 29, 2005 2:45:58 PM)
It looks like Matta and tOSU are in position to land a very good class for next year. Realistically who do they have the best shot at and who makes up the second tier if the #1 roup doesnt materialize?

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:47:45 PM)
Well, right now they are pushing that Conley situation and in order to feel good about getting it done would need to lock him down before June. Once June rolls around and he gets busy and really, really popular again there's no telling what another summer alongside Oden and Co. will do. I think OSU spends the next month trying to lock down Conley. Lauderdale remains a possibility and maybe a juco PF in the Class of 2005.

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:48:17 PM)
Dave... last two questions... first, do you feel Ohio State is in contention for either Bryce Webster or Anjuan Wilderness?

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:49:16 PM)
Recruiting is about momentum and OSU has a lot of it right now. You can bet that the current plan is to push the Conley thing through as priority No. 1. That's got to be the next commit to keep the momentum going.

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:49:43 PM)
Webster might be tough. Wilderness is so wide open. He's a different kind of guy then they have been recruiting lately. He's an athletic PF in a SF's body. He's an energy guy and if he can steady his jumper maybe they move on him.

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:50:24 PM)
Lastly, what 2006 player that Ohio State is involved with will most likely make a decision next in your mind?

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:50:36 PM)
(For Ohio State or elsewhere)

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:53:44 PM)
Thanks so much for having me over here. Your program is in such good hands. Matta has a history of recruiting at the highest level and making excellent decisions. He's on a short list of HM coaches that have a real PASSION for evaluating and trust me, not all the guys do!

Dave Telep (Mar 29, 2005 2:54:12 PM)
Folks, that just about does it for me. I want to thank Steve and Kyle for the excellent work they have done with the site. will be on the road the next 3 months so please enjoy our tournament reports and breaking news coverage! We value your business and are excited to have OSU as a flagship site on our network!

Kyle S. Lamb (Mar 29, 2005 2:54:49 PM)
Everyone thank Dave for taking the time.. his insight is truly appreciated by Bucknuts

Steve Helwagen (Mar 29, 2005 2:54:58 PM)
Thanks Dave, take care!

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