Helwagen Chat: June 10 Archive

Here are excerpts from Friday's Chat session with Bucknuts.com managing editor Steve Helwagen. He conducts these Chat sessions each week for Bucknuts.com subscribers.

edbuck51 (Jun 10, 2005 1:06:18 PM)
Ausberry sounded more like he was "going to try" to come to camp, not like I'm going to camp. Is he a definite or a maybe?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:07:20 PM)
I'd put a kid from Calif. in the maybe pile when it comes to camp. That's a long haul. It would be great to get him to come out to Cols. and check it out this summer. We'll stay on top of him and see what happens.

edbuck51 (Jun 10, 2005 1:07:23 PM)
Are you guys going to have access to the camps this year?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:08:19 PM)
As far as I know, we'll be there just like any other year. Usually, we go to the early sessions but any more the real news comes out of the advanced camp, set for next Friday and Sat. Fewer "true prospects" attend the all-position camps and they have even shortened each of those one day.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:08:40 PM)
Got my dates screwed up. The advanced camp is the 24th and 25th

edbuck51 (Jun 10, 2005 1:09:19 PM)
Are the coaches on the road recruiting, or are they stuck in town by NCAA rule?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:10:23 PM)
The observation period for football and basketball is closed now. Football gets 4 weeks over a 6-week period in late April and May. They choose the 4 weeks when as many as 7 coaches, I believe, can be on the road. Basketball coaches get another window in July with the Nike, ABCD camps and national AAU events.

Guest (Jun 10, 2005 1:10:27 PM)
Hey Steve, what do you think of the Interview with Gene Smith on Speilmans show. Specifically about the scheduling for both football and basketball.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:11:11 PM)
mansfieldbuckeye asked about the Gene Smith issue and the scheduling policies ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:11:30 PM)
In regards to Youngstown State and I-AA, Smith said "once every six or seven years

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:12:56 PM)
and he also said it would be for only Ohio schools, not I-AA beyond the state of Ohio. I don't have as big a problem with that. This is kind of like the MAC argument they started in the late 90s. Support the home schools, don't waste money on schools like Rice, Houston, etc. In that context, once every six or seven years, I guess it's OK.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:13:31 PM)
The Big Ten it seems is loathe to going to a 9-game conference schedule. They'd rather play a patsy and pile up the wins (and money), so that's understandable.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:14:25 PM)
In regards to basketball, they haven't played UC in 43 years. That's long enough. My hunch is Matta is telling him to wait until the Cook-Lighty-etc. mother lode is in place to take UC apart in the "first meeting in 45 years" on national TV.

mansfieldbuckeye (Jun 10, 2005 1:14:30 PM)
What do you think about His desire for a 12th team in the conference

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:15:47 PM)
That was interesting. I think he is showing up and saying that because, in theory, it does look like something is missing. But Geiger and Delany have always said No. 12 had to make sense and had to add something. ND would add something and grow your overall revenue pie. Nobody else would do that. You'd just be dividing the pie 12 ways instead of 11. I think once somebody explains that to Gene he won't be mentioning a 12th team again.

edbuck51 (Jun 10, 2005 1:16:04 PM)
Is Coach Peterson getting more settled in as RC? It didn't seem like he had a ton of input last year.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:16:57 PM)
It is pretty much Coach Tressel's baby. I get the sense he and the coordinators drive the agenda. Peterson is a good coach and a good recruiter. He will do a great job in that role, but it's just part of Coach Tressel's overall scheme of how he wants things done.

Mr. February (Jun 10, 2005 1:17:01 PM)
Steve, what 3 incoming freshmen do you think will have the biggest impact on the team this fall?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:17:31 PM)
It looks like Boone, Worthington and O'Neal will all be there for summer school and conditioning, so those three as well as Mo Wells would be obvious choices.

edbuck51 (Jun 10, 2005 1:17:41 PM)
Don't you think Smith talking to ND is doing them a huge favor? It would seem after how they snubbed the Big Ten, they should not be on our schedule.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:19:40 PM)
It is interesting, isn't it? Michigan, Purdue and MSU play ND almost every year. I think Purdue does and the others usually play 8 out of 10 years. Nebraska subbed in for Michigan for 2 years a few years ago. Those three schools have not given up contracts with ND, so there is no Big Ten boycott of ND. They believe those games -- particularly MSU and Purdue -- are important for their programs. Michigan doesn't really need ND (and they especially don't need to lose to them, as they did in stunning fashion a year ago). So ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:20:59 PM)
I don't have a big problem with Ohio State scheduling Notre Dame. That two-year series in 1995-96 was fabulous. ND is changing its scheduling dynamics somewhat and trying to soften it up. Whether there will be room in that plan for Ohio State, which now seems like a top-10 fixture, remains to be seen. Probly only in a 2-year window when they don't play Michigan.

alabama buckeye (Jun 10, 2005 1:21:10 PM)
Steve - Do you feel that we are being more selective with our in state kids this year? It seems like we are playing the wait and see game.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:22:58 PM)
Again, they have limited scholarships. They have a good handle on what they need and how many spots they have to provide. They will work things out accordingly. I, for one, appreciate the Jake Ballard pick-up. He had a nice combine at Akron. He is a versatile player. They targeted him and got him. They are in good to great shape on guys like Gibson, Rose, Small, Brown, Smith and Coleman. If they get 4 or 5 of them, they'll be right where they want to be.

zulu1 (Jun 10, 2005 1:23:09 PM)
Can't help playing what-if...at the start of the draft I had a dream that maybe Mo would not get drafted, we found out he never signed with an agent, he kissed Tressel's ring and came back home to play out his senior year. Help me decide Steve, was this a dream or a nightmare?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:23:19 PM)
No, that was a nightmare.

Ostate (Jun 10, 2005 1:23:25 PM)
Hi Steve, thanks for the chat, two questions: Did Lavender transfer to X bc OSU wasn't interested? Second, when do expect an announcement from Aaron Brown, soon or last minute guy?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:24:28 PM)
OSU never offered, probably believing that Conley could be imminent. That's my take at first blush. Aaron Brown has visits set in Sept. for Miami-FSU and OSU-Texas. Doesn't sound like a decision is forthcoming any time soon.

edbuck51 (Jun 10, 2005 1:24:32 PM)
Are the football players totally on their own now, or are they allowed supervision from the strength and conditioning coaches?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:25:55 PM)
This is exam week, so there are limited activities on their own with supervision as warranted in the weight room. Next week is an off week to let everybody relax a bit. The body does need rest. Then they start in on June 20 with the Bottom Line. That will go through July 30 or so. They'll get another week off, then report to camp on Aug. 7.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:26:33 PM)
In case some don't know, this is a moderated Chat. All questions come to me and I post them as I get to them. Helps us keep better order that way. Here we go ...

alabama buckeye (Jun 10, 2005 1:26:41 PM)
I am sure most fans are like me and would like to have our class in the barn as far as Ohio kids before school begins. If that is so how many kids do you feel the staff wants committed prior to 9/03/05? Secondarily is it me or does it seem that we are seeing far more of our Ohio kids getting offers from SEC schools and USC?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:27:51 PM)
I agree the staff would like to finalize things as quickly as possible, but they will be patient with must-have kids like Aaron Brown or others who want to wait a while. I am impressed with how they are managing their offers so far. This has the makings of a top-five class, even if they only sign 18 to 20. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:30:04 PM)
Yes, schools from other areas are making themselves at home here in Ohio. There are too many good players here to ignore them. That photo shoot we did at Ohio Stadium was incredible. USC is becoming more involved here with high end kids like Ray Small and Connor Smith. Miami is up here, too.

ImBack45 (Jun 10, 2005 1:30:14 PM)
Hi Steve, Just wondering which road game scares you more...minnesota or penn st. I realize penn st. is at night, but with the way minny has played mich. the last few years and with the people they have coming back don't you think that one will be more challenging?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:31:52 PM)
Penn State. It's at night. It's a much tougher place to play than the dome. And, on paper, they should have better talent. Mason has done an amazing job at Minnesota the last three years with bowl wins there. But PSU is one of the truly tough places to play in the country. Don't get me wrong, Minn. will be tough too. They could very easily go in and lose one or both of them. OSU has lost two Big Ten road games each of the last two years.

BuckeyeDave (Jun 10, 2005 1:32:02 PM)
How hard did Ohio St recruit Craig Krenzel out of high school? At the time, was he considered a "great get" or was he expected to be a role player/2nd teamer?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:34:30 PM)
He and McMullen were in the same class. Both were early commits. They were spaced out behind Bellisari and Moherman so you knew one or the other would one day be the starter. UM wasn't as interested because they just got Drew Henson, so he looked around and picked OSU after his junior year. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:35:47 PM)
Krenzel had a 3.7 GPA and a 30 on the ACT (wow!). He picked OSU over BC, Stanford, MSU and Duke (his brother was there). he was a SuperPrep A-A (top 265 nationally) and was the No. 6 prospect in Michigan according to The Detroit News. Good stuff. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:36:00 PM)
Coop said the only other QB they were after that year was Chris Simms.

alabama buckeye (Jun 10, 2005 1:36:07 PM)
When will you be able to confirm the news on EJ and Maupin for sure? Does the university or the foorball program release that information? If so when?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:36:50 PM)
We have an audience with Coach Tressel later today, believe it or not. Maybe it will come up then. Usually you have to wait until the roster comes out in August and these guys may still have summer school to try and get back in.

zulu1 (Jun 10, 2005 1:36:58 PM)
I haven't heard much of OSU recruiting this Cumberland kid who apparantly started a droolfest at the Akron combine. Where does he stand with the Bucks?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:37:45 PM)
I just think he needs to improve his academic profile a smidge. He claims offers from some different places. He is as fine an athlete as I've seen. May take some time to get his academics in order, though, before he merits an offer.

alabama buckeye (Jun 10, 2005 1:37:56 PM)
Steve - Can Strength coaches like Butch Reynolds recruit off campus or are they only permitted contact once on campus?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:39:01 PM)
Only the 7 coaches designated on a certain day may recruit off campus. And that pool is the 9 full-time position coaches and the head coach, so, no, a strength coach can NOT recruit off campus. Chance meetings, etc. are excluded, but should not be construed by a recruit or his family or intended by Butch (or whoever) as "recruiting contacts."

redondo (Jun 10, 2005 1:39:25 PM)
Steve - Coach T's OOS recruiting seems scattered and disjointed to me. And, it seems kind fo "me too" regarding big names. He's trying to do well in Florida one year, then like last year the Buckeyes get Wells and that's it. It looks good in Pa. a couple of years ago, now where are the Buckeyes. It seems to me from Gary's and others comments on how Michigan does it in Ohio that building relationships yields the best "fruit" long term for a program like Ohio State. What are your thoughts?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:41:12 PM)
This is a function of a constantly changing staff. Michigan retains its coaches fairly well. Tressel only has 3 guys left from 2001. OSU is starting over in a lot of places this year with new guys in schools and talking to prep coaches they've never seen before. It's just the hand they have to play. Luckily, the Ohio State name opens a lot of doors. The name is on par with USC, Miami, Oklahoma, FSU, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Michigan. So that helps. They have a great product to sell. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:43:03 PM)
They want to get 2-3 nice players from Fla. every year, certainly. They fell off that a bit last year. Pa. was dead to Ohio until 2 years ago. They have some nice guys there Walls, Lyons, Dickerson, Byham who they'd love to get in for visits. We'll see how they succeed with that. Michigan's dynamic is different than Ohio State's. Michigan, as of a few weeks ago, had only offered 2-3 kids instate because the talent isn't there. They HAVE to work outside their state. OSU can get 10 of the top 15 in Ohio and just fill gaps outside the state from there.

edbuck51 (Jun 10, 2005 1:43:29 PM)
Coming from YSU to OSU is quite a change for JT. He's had no problem on the field, and his team does seem like a family. Recruiting has to be one of the biggest transitions between those two levels. Do you think JT is really starting to find his niche in this arena? As you said, they seem to be managing their offers better each year and zeroing in on the right targets. There is a ton of talent in Columbus.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:45:04 PM)
Agreed, they have recruited well. They were caught in a transitional year last year. But once they figured out what they had and the young kids like Barton and Ginn and others grew up, they had a top-15 team on their hands at the end of the year. Expectations are high, but this team, as it stands, needs to win on its own merits, not the coattails of Doss, Wilhelm, Krenzel, Smith, etc. We'll see how they do.

dozerbuck51 (Jun 10, 2005 1:45:12 PM)
I noticed from the transcript of last evenings chat that Maupin may be out once again. I thought he was back with the team for the spring?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:46:01 PM)
Lots of questions about Maupin. The best intelligence we have is he may again be on the outs. Nothing definite from anybody who we can quote. Maybe this will come up today. Summer school probably awaits several guys. That's my guess.

alabama buckeye (Jun 10, 2005 1:46:10 PM)
It seems incredible to me that two schools with built in fertile recruiting areas in their backyards in South Florida and Southern California feel they have to come accross the country to recruit Ohio when they only have 20 scholarships to provide. Explain that one to me please!!!

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:47:38 PM)
In Florida, Miami has to split the take with FSU, Fla., Ga. and Auburn. Steve Spurrier is also going to be in there. Heck, he was in there taking guys out last year after just a couple weeks on the job. Coaches will go anywhere in the country to get talent. If there are 6-7 national top 150 kids in Cleveland-Akron, you'd be crazy not to send a guy in there for a day or two to press the flesh and see what you get.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:48:18 PM)
In Cali, USC is now the standardbearer, but UCLA and Cal are coming on and the rest of the Pac-10, plus Utah and so on will recruit the key areas very hard.

zulu1 (Jun 10, 2005 1:48:25 PM)
With the loss of Arden, Maupin and Underwood seemingly immanent where does that put us in total scholarships for the taking? Also, what have you heard about Troy being in Tressel's doghouse?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:50:28 PM)
Let's don't start giving scholarships away just yet. Underwood and Arden were seniors anyway, so all that does is maybe open something for a deserving walk-on. Tressel's MO has been to give guys like Maupin every chance to get back in before cutting the cord and re-issuing the scholarship. If he isn't in school by January, it will be re-issued (if they have somebody they like to fill it). Haven't heard a word about the Troy thing. I guess we'll have to see if there is anything to that.

alabama buckeye (Jun 10, 2005 1:50:39 PM)
Maybe my OSU paranoia is taking over but it sure seems like ESPN set us up on the night game at Penn State. Why does that merit a night game? They were 4 - 7 last year. It just seems odd that game would be tapped so early for a night game. Your thoughts.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:52:25 PM)
It's an attractive game, early on the schedule (i.e. before PSU tanks). ABC apparently said ESPN could have it and they took the ball and ran with it. They have the option of doing 3-4 Big Ten night games now, and that was one they wanted right away. Just the names of the schools make it a marquee must-see match-up (that is if your forget that PSU is like 20-30 the last 5 years). ESPN is going for ratings, and Ohio State-Penn State will get them that. Pure, plain and simple.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:53:00 PM)
If it's bumped to ESPN2 by some SEC game, it will be the highest rated game in ESPN2's history. I believe that was the case for that OSU-NU "thriller" last year.

Mr. February (Jun 10, 2005 1:53:12 PM)
What's the word on Georgia QB Antonio Henton? Scott Kennedy claims he may be our #1 QB target. Can we expect an update soon? He might be the mobile QB we're looking for.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:53:27 PM)
Hello, Mack Brown, how are things in Austin (ha ha). ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:54:09 PM)
Henton is on my list of guys to call. I hope to reach him this weekend or early next week for an update. We're coming into a stretch where kids will be away at camps and it will be hard tracking them down.

Ostate (Jun 10, 2005 1:54:18 PM)
What' s the big difference between Texas and Ohio St. recruiting? I saw where they already have 20 verbals, granted mostly in-state, versus 3 for OSU. How many freaking guys can they take and are they all high quality (3 stars and above)?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:55:05 PM)
Scout has not assigned such rankings yet, so I don't know how many of Texas' guys are top shelf guys. Brown was a great recruiter before they ever won anything. You think that's gonna slow down after they beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl?

edbuck51 (Jun 10, 2005 1:55:14 PM)
Was John Cooper a fun guy to work with? I didn't care for him much as a coach, but he seems like he would be fun to play golf with.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:56:28 PM)
Yes and no. Yes, he had a great sense of humor, he was witty and tried to bring some levity to things at times. He was good to work with and went out of his way, most times, to be accommodating. He really enjoyed his job. Lots of great stories about college football and his experiences. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 1:57:55 PM)
No, because when I got to BSB in 1994, the publication had just written a column saying he should be fired after the OSU-PSU 63-14 debacle. Needless to say, I walked into a hornet's nest. It took me 2-3 good years to get that smoothed out. "We're not very happy right now with BSB," Cooper said in my very first conversation with him after I took that job. As you can imagine, that didn't help me get off to a rousing start there.

alabama buckeye (Jun 10, 2005 1:58:15 PM)
Do you feel the limited access Coach Tressel gives the National media is reflective in their treatment of our program? Also what does Mark May have against Ohio State. He cleary is not objective when it comes to us. Is Kellen Winslow Sr still an analyst for Fox Sports for college football? He is also a Tressel and Ohio State hater. Welcome to Cleveland KW, Sr.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:00:06 PM)
I have no idea why anybody "came after" Ohio State. It is again my contention that ESPN is after one thing -- ratings. Their integrity as a news organization takes second fiddle to that. They allow their analysts like Alberts, May to cover college football like it's the NFL or MLB, constantly making comments about job security, etc. I don't think it should be covered that way. Controversy is king. Get us dirty laundry. No idea on Winslow.

redondo (Jun 10, 2005 2:00:16 PM)
Hi Steve - Steve B. was suspended two plus games at the end of his Senior year for the DUI. Can we extrapolate that discipline to Haw and Skeete, for example?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:01:32 PM)
No, each situation was different. I think DUI is much more serious that MJ possession, but maybe not as serious or the same as MJ trafficking. Just my opinion. SB could have killed himself or somebody else with what he did (thank goodness nothing bad happened). He got exactly what he deserved, including the shot at redemption in the bowl game. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:02:44 PM)
The OSU policy carries no specific suspension for Haw after one instance. Totally the coach's call. Tressel may never announce publicly what he is doing with Haw. He may dress him and have him ready and play him only if needed or in a mop-up role or not at all against Miami. Skeete, I think, is in for a stiffer penalty if proven guilty.

alabama buckeye (Jun 10, 2005 2:02:55 PM)
Steve - Why is it that Michigan keeps their coaches it seems forever and they rarely move onto head coaching jobs and our coaches seem to get offered Head Coaching or coordinator positions? It just seems strange. What is your take on that. It hurts our continuity.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:03:21 PM)
It means you had good people, I guess. Michigan guys move on too. It just probably hasn't been at the same turnover rate.

alabama buckeye (Jun 10, 2005 2:03:34 PM)
How does a school that has only won 1/2 of a national title since 1940 ALWAYS get picked to win or compete for a championship preseason? Did anyone watch their last two games unless I am wrong they lost and gave up over 70 points? What gives?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:03:55 PM)
I agree, that defense needs a lot of work if they're going to be there in Nov. Helps to have the QB and RB back, though.

BuckeyeDave (Jun 10, 2005 2:04:02 PM)
Assuming the 2005 campaign goes well, what will the key losses be? What areas should we be concerned about regarding the 2006 season?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:04:07 PM)
Ha ha ha ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:04:11 PM)
The key losses ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:04:15 PM)
Oh my gosh ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:04:51 PM)
Sims, Mangold, probably Holmes, Hamby, Schnittker, Kudla, Green, Hawk, Schlegel, Carpenter, Salley, Everett and Huston.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:05:56 PM)
That's a pretty good nucleus of players headed out the door. The good news is they have the depth to recoup the OL. Nicol and Frost are set at TE. Johnson at FB, Gholston, Barrow, Wilson and Worthington at DE, not so sure about DT (maybe Patterson), LBs have promise. Safeties have promise ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:06:08 PM)
2006 will be about riding Troy Smith and Ted Ginn Jr.

alabama buckeye (Jun 10, 2005 2:06:16 PM)
When will we find out who the preferred walk ons are? Especially the notables ones (i.e RBs)?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:06:25 PM)
I imagine when the roster is finalized in August.

alabama buckeye (Jun 10, 2005 2:06:37 PM)
Has the shine come off of our boy Bob Stoops since the back to back beatings on national tv? His profile seems much lower. Do you feel we will start to see that in national perception? Is the fact that Texas already has 20 verbals where OU was recruiting says anything?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:08:45 PM)
Maybe, but OU will be up there again this year. I don't think recruits are scared off by the two losses. It does take hard work to stay on top, though.

alabama buckeye (Jun 10, 2005 2:08:52 PM)
Do you feel Smith (AD) will go out of his way to patch up the relationship between TOSU and espn?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:09:53 PM)
Yeah, he brings a new approach to the situation. He has no axe to grind with them, and I'd assume vice versa. I just don't think ESPN was "personal" with its vendetta against OSU. It was a business decision made to garner ratings. Nothing more. Tabloid journalism.

redondo (Jun 10, 2005 2:09:59 PM)
Hi Steve - Following up on Coach Cooper and BSB, was BSB where your paths first crossed? I would find it surprising that if you had an already established relationship with him that he wouldn't cut you some slack when you transitioned over to BSB. Thank you.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:10:56 PM)
No, I covered them some on the Lantern back to 89 and with BSB part-time from 90-94. But I wasn't there every day, so in some regards I was kind of "new" when I showed up in Dec. 94.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:11:38 PM)
You have to remember, there are sometimes 20-30 reporters at some of these events, so keeping track of guys coming and going isn't at the front of the coach's mind. You get to know the 6-10 people who are at every event.

dozerbuck51 (Jun 10, 2005 2:11:58 PM)
Steve, When does the team report for camp? Do the Freshman guys come early? I seem to remember when the 2002 class came in, they arrived before the rest of the team.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:12:41 PM)
Sun., Aug. 7 the team reports. They did away with the early freshman report date and now the whole team reports an extra week early. (Camp is 4 weeks instead of the old 3. They just spread things out a little more.)

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:13:26 PM)
Camp is also a misnomer. Camp probably refers to the first 2-1/2 weeks. When they get down to 10 days before the opener things shift to "normal game week" operations (no 2-a-days, etc.).

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:14:54 PM)
Is there anything else today?

alabama buckeye (Jun 10, 2005 2:15:42 PM)
Thank you for your insight. I am sorry I asked some many questions but I rarely get to participate. I love what you guys do.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:16:01 PM)
No problem that's why we're here. I got about 5-10 minutes left if there is anything else today.

zulu1 (Jun 10, 2005 2:16:50 PM)
I can't help but notice that you seem to be high on Troy Smith remaining at the helm while Gary holds onto the hope that Zwick will lead us to the promised land. Can you give us a sample exchange between you two at the water cooler on the Monday morning after the Miami game, 5 days before the Texas game and Troy being eligible?

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:17:54 PM)
I don't know if Gary "favors" Zwick over Smith or what. I don't want to put words in his mouth. That week leading up to Texas will be interesting. Let's examine the scenarios ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:19:13 PM)
If Zwick goes 20 for 30 for 250 yards and 2 TDs against Miami (and they win like 35-14), then he's the clear starter against Texas. Troy Smith should also still play, though. Over the course of a 3-1/2 hour game, his entry would bring a spark to the proceedings. Plus, he will have paid his penance and, honestly, will deserve to play if he's still doing well in practice.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:20:10 PM)
If Zwick is so-so against Miami (let's say 15 of 30 for 160, 1 TD, 1 INT), then there will be clamor for Smith to play most of the game, if not start. I think Zwick still gets the start, provided he's healthy and all things being equal. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:21:09 PM)
If Zwick is less than so-so against Miami (can't see this happening, but let's say 12 of 30 for 105, 0 TDs, 2 INTs) and, even better, Boeckman gets in there and shows something, then you've got a real mess on your hands. All three would make a case to start and/or play. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:21:43 PM)
My final guess, following Tressel's movements, is Zwick starts both Miami and Texas. But whoever helps them beat Texas will be the guy the following week and thereafter.

redondo (Jun 10, 2005 2:21:51 PM)
Steve - I hate to admit it, but I was impressed that a team from Michigan could win the women's softball title. How far away is the Buckeye program? And, was the feat that impressive to you? Was UM that much betterthan everyone in the Big Ten. Thank you for your perspective.

hamiltuckbuck (Jun 10, 2005 2:23:29 PM)
First womens softball team east of the mississippi to take the title...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:23:32 PM)
It was a dramatic win. I saw the HR live. Right before she hit it, the announcer said no team east of the Mississippi had ever won the softball CWS. OSU was 4th or 5th in the Big Ten this year. The coach, Linda Kalafatis, has now been around about 7-8 years. They have a nice facility there next to the WHAC. Not sure what the hold-up is with OSU softball.

zulu1 (Jun 10, 2005 2:23:44 PM)
Any word on how our offensive line is looking physically? If they're in shape and ready to run are we going to see more traps, sweeps and the like with pulling lineman? Also, I have to get in the standard inquiry on Oden and Conley in bball - you know the drill...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:24:31 PM)
Yeah, they say the OL looks good. I liked what I saw in spring ball, more finishing blocks and the like. Barton and Downing have that nasty streak to them. Lot of depth, lot of ability. Could be their best line since the Pace days. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:25:38 PM)
Latest on Conley and Oden is Conley may decide by July 1. I think he gets the sense he needs to finish it and be fair to the two schools involved. Oden is expected to fall into lock step. We'll see if he holds true to his vow to play college ball. Even one year would give OSU and Matta a tremendous amount of credibility.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:26:13 PM)
Anything else today???

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:27:19 PM)
We have some big plans for the next month here at Bucknuts.com. We will be all over the all-star game next week, the football and basketball camps and the Worthington league. Stay tuned!

zulu1 (Jun 10, 2005 2:27:24 PM)
OK...both of those answers have got me geeked!!! Thanks a bunch for "being there."

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:27:43 PM)
Take care ... I will turn off moderation now, feel free to talk among yourselves.

SteveHelwagen (Jun 10, 2005 2:27:57 PM)
Bye now!

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