Helwagen Chat: July 29 Archive

Here are excerpts from Friday's Chat session with Bucknuts.com managing editor Steve Helwagen. He conducts these Chat sessions each week for Bucknuts.com subscribers.

BUCKNUTZUKE (Jul 29, 2005 3:08:59 PM)
Connor Smith is he a Buckeye on Aug 1st?!!!!

IBUCKEYEFAN (Jul 29, 2005 3:10:05 PM)
chat time?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:10:10 PM)
yep

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:10:30 PM)
This is a moderated Chat, all questions come to me and I post them as I get to them.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:10:45 PM)
OK, where were we? Oh yes, target No. 1-A on the board ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:12:20 PM)
Yes, I think Connor Smith will be an Ohio State Buckeye. It could happen by Monday, maybe sooner. I have no inside info to pass on other than the vibe Dave Biddle told me he has gotten from talking with Connor and his dad, former Buckeye Joe Smith. Plus, Connor attacked the OSU camp like it was meat on a bone. He put on quite a showing. And they need him (for depth and talent). It is a good fit all the way around.

Drew (Jul 29, 2005 3:12:29 PM)
What do you think about Tressl's comments about the qb situation today - it seems like smith has to win back the coach's favor?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:13:58 PM)
Yes, that is definitely the way Coach Tressel sounds. I think what happened late last year factors into his thinking. But Troy, clearly, needs to walk the straight and narrow. Bad choices will not be rewarded. Tressel said it yesterday -- they expect more from the QBs (both on and off the field) than they did a year ago. He also thinks they are capable of delivering.

IBUCKEYEFAN (Jul 29, 2005 3:14:07 PM)
Ok, Steve, do you know anything about the "twins" from West Branch? Good showings at OSU and Akron Camp- 4.4 40 at osu and 4.3 at akron for Thomas

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:14:43 PM)
Bill Greene sent in a story on those guys and some pics, I believe. First I have ever heard of them and I will defer to Bill on that. Sound like some intriguing prospects.

Drew (Jul 29, 2005 3:14:49 PM)
Have you heard much on how our oline recruits from 04 have been doing this summer?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:16:18 PM)
That would be the Rehring-Mitchum-Person-Skinner quartet, I assume. No, have not honestly heard anything to make me believe any of them will push past any of the veterans for a starting job out of the gate in '05. But it is a long season and one or all could be pressed into service. I'm just glad they can (finally) fill a two-deep with mostly scholarship players on the OL. The OL recruiting from 1998-01 was absolutely abysmal.

BuckeyeDave (Jul 29, 2005 3:16:30 PM)
Spurrier pulled a kind of scummy move didn't he?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:18:37 PM)
Taking several guys' scholarships away? Yes, that is a scummy move. No question. One or two kids who were academic liabilities or screw-offs, perhaps. We never get the full story. It's like O'Brien he dumped some guys when he got to OSU for cause. He took his lumps (from me and others) for it. But he said he protected those kids by not sharing the reasons publicly, and they were valid. However, what works against Spurrier is when you just go up and down your roster and target 4-5 guys Holtz brought in and dump them for no reason. It looks like that may be what he did. The recruits love Spurrier and his offense, though. That is for sure. This should not hurt him too much.

Drew (Jul 29, 2005 3:19:03 PM)
Tressel spoke very highly of antonio pittman in today's news conference - do you think pittman can be a top rb this year?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:21:52 PM)
Yes, I'm in Pittman's camp. He showed me some polish -- stronger running, better cuts, taking hits and falling forward. Last year he showed some flashes and got 400-plus yards. If he plays like he did this past spring, watch out. He could go for 1100-1200 yards, maybe. That would be so huge. The big thing with Pittman may also be maturity off the pitch. If he makes that step and goes straight and narrow, Tressel will push him to the moon.

IBUCKEYEFAN (Jul 29, 2005 3:22:05 PM)
I heard Florida is going to be Smith's pick

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:22:16 PM)
I had not heard that.

buckgrad (Jul 29, 2005 3:22:31 PM)
Good afternoon Steve, I live down here in Charlotte a lot of NC State fans, radio shows are funny they all gripe about how OSU "luckily" won those 2 games. T.A. is the brunt of most jokes, its surprising. Any NC recruits on the Buckeyes board this year or next? Thanks

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:25:12 PM)
Luck? OSU had a big lead in the first game at OSU, then spit the bit in the fourth quarter and got Riversed. Plus, they got homered by the ACC officials, who had the integrity to call the back down at the 1 on the last play in the third OT, at least. The game in Raleigh, the OSU offense could not have been any worse. That was a good to great NCSU defense. But the Pack offense had five TOs and a Big Ten crew nailed them for 12-13 penalties, I guess. The turnovers were the deciding factor in the game, and OSU created those. No luck involved. North Carolina recruits? Nope, I don't see any from there. I see a bunch from Maryland, just up the coast, and few from Ga., though.

Drew (Jul 29, 2005 3:25:44 PM)
It seems that Smith is really the fans choice at qb at this point - do you think this will have any negative effect or added pressure on Zwick as he prepares for the miami game?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:27:10 PM)
No, I don't think sentiment outside the WHAC will impact Zwick at all. He may be on an Alamo Bowl-like short leash with high percentage throws until he proves he won't be throwing to the white jerseys as often. But, no, this kid is in his fourth year as a college player. He has a window of opp here. He needs to stand and deliver. If he doesn't, it should be readily apparent to everybody that it's Troy's time again.

Dingbuck (Jul 29, 2005 3:27:26 PM)
Smith scares me. I am rooting for Zwick to have a great game vs Miami and then lead us to victory over TX. One game hype (Mich) with Smith and that scares me. why is everyone in his corner so strongly? I think had Ginn come on earlier, the same thing could have happened with Zwick at the controls. it is not like Smith is a blazer as a runner. I swear he will end up hurting us as much as helping us. Thoughts?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:28:38 PM)
Good points all. Smith had the game of his life against Michigan as a soph. Germaine had the game of his life against ASU as a soph. He won some nice games after that, including UM in 1998. But never ever duplicated that late-game heroic again. Smith may well never duplicate what he did that day in Nov. I am not ready to give up on him yet, though.

IBUCKEYEFAN (Jul 29, 2005 3:28:43 PM)
who will move to safety if Everitt goes to CB?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:29:02 PM)
The safeties are Salley and Whitner and Mitchell would likely draw in as the nickel/backup safety.

BUCKNUTZUKE (Jul 29, 2005 3:29:11 PM)
Steve, are you concerned about the lack of defensive linemen we seem to be "in on" this recruiting year considering that we couldn't get pressure on the opposing QB's last year?...and what impact D-line prospects are we trying to go after...because I am not hearing many impact names

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:32:28 PM)
They restocked the end position last year with the three W's -- Williams, Wilson and Worthington. And I think they're in good shape with Barrow as a RS freshman and Gholston as a soph. Plus, Richardson and Patterson have 2 more years, too. They are OK there. They need help inside, especially with Maupin done. They moved Schafer over in the spring and he went right into the 2-deep -- not a good sign at all. They need DT help in the worst way this year. None in Ohio seem to be tripping their cord. Duane maintains that Robert Rose adds 20-30 pounds and moves inside, and he could be right. He has to be one of their top recruits on the board now. If they get he and Small, that would add to Smith, Terry, Whitner, Ginn, O'Neal and Lenix and give them 8 Glenville guys on the roster out of 85 on scholarship. Wow. Browning or Adams would make it 9 or 10. We're starting to see these Glenville kids like Nelson and Jones go elsewhere in the Big Ten because OSU can't take them all.

buckgrad (Jul 29, 2005 3:32:54 PM)
How about Alvarez leaving? Were you shocked, I was. Good move or bad move for Wisconsin?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:35:05 PM)
That was a shock. Maybe it will mean an end to UW's dominance of Ohio State. I don't know. That can only be a good thing. He is the winningest coach in UW history, something like 102-70. He really put that program on the map and they showed they could recruit nationally under him. The D-coordinator, I believe, is taking over. He has some huge shoes to fill. I thought Alvarez would go 3-4 years in the dual role. Turns out it will only be 2 years. I'm sure he got into the AD job and realized there was more to it than meets the eye. Plus, after you've been coaching for so long, I'm sure you get burned out. Last year's 0-3 finish (after a 9-0 start) had to be devastating, too.

BUCKNUTZUKE (Jul 29, 2005 3:35:31 PM)
Steve, Iowa has been going HARD after Thad Gibson from Euclid...any chance he leaves the Buckeye State for Iowa or those scumbags from the north?...The loss of Gibson would be demoralizing!

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:36:22 PM)
OSU has a battle on their hands. If Mel Tucker were still at OSU, I'd say it's in the bag. But he isn't. The new contingent recruiting Cleveland needs to haul in this big fish. Everybody who has seen him likes him and OSU needs some impact LBs in this class.

Guest (Jul 29, 2005 3:36:30 PM)
Any word on D'Andrea's health so far?? I wish we could get a full season out of him, is there a linebacking corp in CFB that is as good as Schlegel, Carpenter and AJ?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:36:44 PM)
IBUCKEYEFAN asks about D'Andrea's health ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:38:30 PM)
D'Andrea's name was on a sheet of guys who will be meeting with the media in a week or two. That looks good. That's usually reserved for guys who are in the 2-deep and playing.

BUCKNUTZUKE (Jul 29, 2005 3:38:36 PM)
Steve, any Florida recruits this year that OSU steals away...maybe a Hornsby or a Jones?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:40:17 PM)
I did not read the update on Jones, but I think he is a nice prospect as an LB. WR Bryan Thomas from Zephyrhills, Fla. (Pickett's school and he knows him) says OSU is at the top of his list. He has been offered.

BuckeyeDave (Jul 29, 2005 3:40:28 PM)
I afraid we're not going to get A Brown, more than that we're going to lose C Smith.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:42:38 PM)
Well, you know, they need OL depth. But I think this program is past the point where 1-2 guys will make or break them. Think big picture. Think real world. If they don't get Aaron Brown (and I still give OSU the inside track there), then they'll be after the next 5-6 OL just as hard. Another guy I called this week was JB Walton from Maryland. He said they impressed him by having 3 coaches in his school this spring. Get him up for a good visit and, voila, you're in the top 2-3 maybe for him. I will say this: If/when Smith commits, you should be able to breathe easier.

joestemm (Jul 29, 2005 3:43:12 PM)
Hey Steve, with the distinct possiblity that this would be the last year for Ohio's Participation in the Big 33, Is it a possiblity of a new All Star Game between say Ohio and Michigan? That would be fun!

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:45:21 PM)
No, it isn't a matter of just adding another state. If they could accommodate PA, that would be great. The problem is the timing. The colleges enrolling seniors over the summer means the third weekend in June is the ONLY date for these games -- unless you have a dome and can play one in Dec. Any earlier in June conflicts with track and graduation. March or April conflicts with basketball and the start of track and baseball. The timing is the key issue. The Ohio coaches, if I read this right, want their game with all that tradition -- longest active all-star game in the country -- to continue. Third weekend in June is the only time they see to do it.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:45:33 PM)
Maybe do one with Mich in Dec. in Ford Field. I dunno.

BUCKNUTZUKE (Jul 29, 2005 3:45:41 PM)
You mentioned Maryland and Georgia recruits that OSU had a big shot at...who were you referring to?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:46:57 PM)
Gee, in Maryland, they're after AJ Wallace and JB Walton and they were after Bani Gbadyu before he verbaled for LSU. In GA, they have Henton, they'd also like Chris Slaughter, Carlos Brown OL Kiante Tripp and others. They have put as much into those 2 states this year as just about anywhere, it appears.

osubuck1 (Jul 29, 2005 3:47:01 PM)
the fullback position. We need one this year, any possibilities?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:48:01 PM)
They had a kid named Hunter Haynes from St. Augustine or Jax. Nease at their camp. They don't seem enamored with anybody from Ohio. But I think they do need one. They'll be down to Stan White (who has hardly played there) and Dionte Johnson after this year.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:48:46 PM)
Of course, with Shot Ginn, etc. they don't do as much I-formation as they have in the past. During the Michigan broadcast they had a stat that OSU lined up with one back or no back more than they did with 2 over the course of the year. That's unheard of.

buckgrad (Jul 29, 2005 3:49:01 PM)
I hear you, I feel the same way, the favorite come back is "if we only had Phil Rivers last year, the game would have gone completely different". Joe Pa only has, at most 3-4 years left realistically, who are the hot names you are hearing that are being groomed to replace him?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:49:22 PM)
JoePa's successor? Well, you know, he will be around for another 6-7 years, right?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:54:10 PM)
Seriously, I know they have loved Kirk Ferentz at PSU from the time they laid eyes on him. If they can somehow convince him that the PSU job is as big a deal as it once was, maybe they make a play for him. I know Paterno has had a lot of guys work for him. I'm unclear if anybody in his coaching tree would be right for it or not. They may want to break from the past and go in a new direction. Houston Nutt at Arkansas always gets a look when these things come up. Maybe Tom O'Brien at BC or Gregg Brandon at BGSU. Hard to say.

Guest (Jul 29, 2005 3:54:23 PM)
Steve, Sally is being touted as AA caliber. Is Whitner potentially better (in '06) than Salley, or is Salley that good?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:54:41 PM)
murfinati asks about Salley and Whitner as potential AA caliber ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:55:40 PM)
Salley could get a look this year. He just tees off on people. I see Whitner maybe as a better all around player than Salley. He also hits like a ton of bricks. OSU has a tradition of great safety play, and these guys are the latest 2 in that tradition no doubt. Two different kinds of players, though.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:55:49 PM)
Salley is almost like an extra LB at 225 or so.

Guest (Jul 29, 2005 3:56:05 PM)
Interesting that JT finally mentioned Ginn at CB, probably later in the season when the weather cools. How do you see that playing out and could it happen sooner if Everett doesn't make the grade? How do you bump someone out who wins the job, especially if they are playing well? Do you think we see Ginn only in obvious passing situations?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:56:18 PM)
Dingbuck asks about how Ginn will be used at corner ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 3:57:29 PM)
Everett with his game experience will be given every shot. It hurts that he missed spring ball. The holdover coaches are telling Haynes and Beckman, though, that he is their guy at that spot. I can't disagree (yet, at least). Ginn will factor in more as the season wears on, just like Coach Tressel said, and as needed in maybe some goal line situations, etc.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:00:14 PM)
one sec

osubuck1 (Jul 29, 2005 4:00:54 PM)
we permanately lose 2-3 players a year to either acedemic or off the field problems. Is that high compared to other programs?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:01:19 PM)
Nope, the number had been about one a year until this spate this year with Maupin, E.J. Underwood and whatever it was that snagged Arden.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:01:29 PM)
That's normal everywhere.That's normal in life.

osubuck1 (Jul 29, 2005 4:01:33 PM)
any particular reason schaefer moved back to defense? It seems like we have more players on the d-line than the o-line...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:01:52 PM)
Yeah, because he lost his job at guard to T.J. Downing and they desperately needed help at DT.

Guest (Jul 29, 2005 4:02:00 PM)
Any thing new on Raymar Morgan? I fear a bit for the future if we don't get a banger? Four on the perimeter is fine but someone has got to rebound besides Oden. I do see our guards, Cook and Lighty, as guys who can rebound and Lewis will be a senior but...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:02:09 PM)
Dingbuck asks about Raymar Morgan ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:03:26 PM)
You hear conflicting things. He now says UConn has joined the party with UM, MSU and OSU. I think the Eric Snow situation/family ties pulls him to MSU. However, the Oden/Conley/Cook/Lighty situation and his home state pull him to OSU. The kid has a tough call. You hope this does not turn into a Roethlisberger situation -- too little, too late with the offer.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:04:15 PM)
Some responses from the earlier Smith-Zwick discussion ...

Palmer (Jul 29, 2005 4:04:17 PM)
Are you kidding me, Dingbuck?! I like our chances a lot better with Smith, Just go back to the Iowa game

Guest (Jul 29, 2005 4:04:21 PM)
I agree with what dingbuck was saying earlier about zwick. Early on last year I saw a lot of great flashes from zwick -- quick release, quick reads in the passing game, strong accurate throws in the short passing game -- and he had practically NO help. In the NW game he almost singlehandily led us back to victory while our defense was dismal. He's never been in any trouble, he's by tressel's side the whole time while he's on the sidelines. Plus, Tressel seems to like him a lot. He has a lot of Krenzel-like characteristics with the potential to be a much better passer so why all the hostility??

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:04:41 PM)
Drew also chimed in singing Zwick's praises as well.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:05:29 PM)
I think the morale of the story is what happened last year is yesterday's news. If Zwick can make good decisions on the field, he'll get his chances. If Smith can make good decisions off the field and maintain his level from late last year and build on that, he'll get his chances, too.

osubuck1 (Jul 29, 2005 4:05:37 PM)
do we get the remaining in state guys we're in on? or do you think we lose out on a couple, if so who?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:06:45 PM)
They offered Tyler Moeller, but I don't think he is a lock. Iowa and Tennessee, among others, could be tough to beat. I think they're as good as gold on Small (the next Teddy?) and Rose. I think they're fine on Smith and probably 50-50 on Brown and Gibson, maybe better than that on Gibson. A clean sweep would be premature, but certainly doable.

Guest (Jul 29, 2005 4:06:54 PM)
What's going on with Abdallah and Cotton inside --- are these guys ready to step up and will patterson be playing mostly inside or outside do you think?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:07:05 PM)
Drew asks about Abdallah, Cotton and Patterson ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:08:19 PM)
Abdallah and Cotton are still trying to push past Penton and Schafer to get into the 2-deep. Cotton has a year on Nader, so it would be nice for him to step it up and crack that 2-deep this year. Patterson is listed mostly at DE, but they know he can also play DT, too. At 295 pounds, if he comes free, Patterson could crush some QBs. That is for sure.

Guest (Jul 29, 2005 4:08:25 PM)
What do you think the chances are that D'andrea gets a medical redshirt?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:08:36 PM)
Drew asks about D'Andrea getting the medical RS ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:10:21 PM)
I think those chances are very good. By the letter of the rule, I think he played maybe one game too many. But this is a kinder, gentler NCAA. They seem to be bending over backwards to accommodate kids a little more. If they make a strong case with some extenuating circumstances, let's say, like he missed part of another year as well because of the injuries (which I think is true), he may get some consideration. Comes back to how good a year he has, does he think he is more marketable in the 06 or 07 draft, etc. Tressel, I assume, would love for him to come back, play, graduate, etc.

Palmer (Jul 29, 2005 4:10:42 PM)
Steve, I always read about coaches like Urban Meyer text messaging recruits and doing other little things to get them to come to their schools, Do you know of any OSU coaches doing that?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:11:44 PM)
I assume they do. I can't honestly say. That will be the next thing the NCAA regulates. Text messenging kids. It's like an e-mail -- only a kid can read it anywhere he is.

BUCKNUTZUKE (Jul 29, 2005 4:11:49 PM)
What is the latest situation with the California kids...? Ausberry, Reuland and the Schwartz safety...any of those three kids realistically in OSU's reach?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:13:52 PM)
Schwartz waiting patiently on an offer. May need to show senior defense tape to get it. He is high on their list at safety. It's great that Reuland will get the guided tour next Friday. Ausberry they need to get in for an official visit. He says OSU-USc are his top two, though.

BuckeyeDave (Jul 29, 2005 4:14:24 PM)
What non-conference games would you like to Ohio St schedule? Any interesting match-ups you'd like to see? Maybe some WAC or MWC opponents?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:14:59 PM)
Great question. There were some groans in the room yesterday when Tressel said he wants the 12th game to be an Ohio team. Isn't the 11th game already an Ohio team? You want to play 2 a year? ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:18:47 PM)
I agree, go OOC, go OOS and bring in some nice middle-of-the-road programs like, say, Boise State, Fresno State, Duke, North Carolina (Archie pummeled them), Wake Forest (bring Grobe and Mauk back home to Ohio), Rutgers (play at Giants Stadium, reinforce your NJ-NY recruiting base), South Florida, Baylor, TCU, SMU, Memphis, Southern Miss, Central Florida (PSU plays them like every year), UAB, East Carolina, UTEP, Houston, Arizona (bring Stoops home to Ohio), UNLV, Air Force, Utah, Notre Dame.

BUCKNUTZUKE (Jul 29, 2005 4:18:59 PM)
I read on Bucknuts that Jermiah Hunter the linebacker from PA. hasn't heard from OSU or ND in the last few weeks, considering our need for impact LB's this recruiting class, why as OSU's interest in Hunter seemed to wain as of late?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:19:50 PM)
$64K question. There are contact periods, etc. Not sure what he means by not heard from them. Can't speak for the staff in terms of why they have or have not called or if they're even interested. I believe they have offered, though. I'm sure they will be in touch when they can.

Guest (Jul 29, 2005 4:19:58 PM)
Every team has weaknesses. From the outside, it appears IMO that this year the greatest weakness for tOSU might be in the kicking game. What is your opinion of the team's greatest weakness or the area needing the most work for this upcoming year?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:20:14 PM)
Texas Buckeye says the weaknesses for 05 are in the kicking game ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:20:58 PM)
Good observation. I think Trapasso could be nice at punter. Bill Greene thinks Thoma will give him a run for his money. Will Huston finally make good on five-plus years of scholarship payments? Hmmm.

dully (Jul 29, 2005 4:21:05 PM)
Hypothetical question: If Tressel were to step down now, who would be the best candidates to replace him now? What about a few years from now?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:23:52 PM)
Oh, wow. That's a tough call. I'm not sure anybody on this staff would be considered a long-term answer to that question. The young guys haven't been there long enough, etc. Hazell is a guy I think could be a HC somewhere within 4-5 years. I like him a lot. Mel Tucker's name would be thrown in there. Jeez, Dantonio won a bowl in his first year at UC. For continuity sake, they could draft him, I guess. Snyder, but he'd have to be REAL successful at Marshall first. Outside the coaching tree, probly some of the names I mentioned above. I'm sure Gene Smith has his list already working on guys who one day could get an interview. You have to constantly look at those things. The O'Brien episode (not that Tressel is "dirty") proves that life can change on a dime.

jdawg (Jul 29, 2005 4:24:25 PM)
What do you expect from Tyler Everret this year?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:26:47 PM)
Tyler Everett, to me, outstripped my expectations as a freshman with the amount he played. He's done some nice things for OSU. He competes every day. If he's healthy, I think he'll be fine. Remember, we are talking about the boundary corner in this defense. Fox proved you just need a tenacious competitor over there. Not a great cover guy, per se. A good to great tackler, great closing speed and just compete. They're not trying to solve world peace with that position -- just keep the ball in front of you and make the plays that come your way (sweeps, etc.). This position is tailor made, I think, for Everett. I'm sure the safeties will be shading to help him, too, over the top -- at least early on.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:27:39 PM)
And if he can't do it, bring on O'Neal or Lane or Brandon Underwood or Andre Amos or whoever else.

jdawg (Jul 29, 2005 4:27:48 PM)
Steve, who do you look to surprise people once camp gets under way?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:28:40 PM)
Surprises in camp? Maybe an O'Neal or an Albert Dukes or an Alex Boone. The lineup is pretty much set, as far as I can see. It's a veteran team.

jdawg (Jul 29, 2005 4:29:16 PM)
I like Zwick's chances of surprising people this year. I think he'll benefit from having two guys like Holmes and Ginn to throw too. Remeber he was only a Soph. last year, what are your thoughts on Zwick keeping the job this year?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:30:28 PM)
Oh, man, the key will be how he and Smith perform in practice and in the big scrimmages they have. That will be the big thing. Obviously, fans and media will look at Zwick's numbers against Miami and make declarations like, "they need Smith," or "Justin's the guy." It won't be decided on one day. They'll look at the whole picture.

osubuck1 (Jul 29, 2005 4:30:43 PM)
better shot at a national title this year, or next?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:30:50 PM)
Great question ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:31:51 PM)
Defense wins championships, so I think this is their year. After this year, they lose Kudla, Pitcock, Schlegel, Hawk, Carpenter, D'Andrea (maybe), Salley, Everett and maybe even Youboty (early NFL). That would be 8 potential starters gone off the defense. You tell me.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:32:07 PM)
They'd still have Smith and Ginn back in 06 and that means a lot, though.

osubuck1 (Jul 29, 2005 4:32:10 PM)
Micah Johnson, what position, and what are our chances?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:33:04 PM)
I hear DT at the college level. Kind of a strange size 6-2, 260. But Scout's people love him. OSU in his top 3-5 I believe with Ga., Louisville, LSU and Michigan.

osubuck1 (Jul 29, 2005 4:33:11 PM)
is lenix a true freshman next year?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:33:18 PM)
Yes, he'd be a freshman in 2006.

buckgrad (Jul 29, 2005 4:33:25 PM)
Does Bucknuts have any guest appearances scheduled for a chat in the future, say a recruit or what you guys did with Dustin Fox, kind of like what ESPN does sometimes with prospects.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:33:56 PM)
Dave Telep on the basketball side will be here on Wed., I believe. Bill Conley will be back later in Aug. We'll work on some guest Chats, etc.

jdawg (Jul 29, 2005 4:34:06 PM)
Steve, who do you see having the biggest impact of the incoming Freshman? I think O'neal with his ability to play on ST and probably in the two deep at CB.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:34:45 PM)
Agreed on O'Neal. He's special. They don't need an OT desperately. I think Sims, Barton and Rehring have it pretty well covered. Boone will get a shot, though. Maybe Wilson and/or Worthington at DE.

jdawg (Jul 29, 2005 4:35:05 PM)
Who is our backup PG behind Butler?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:35:27 PM)
This year, probably Mayes and Foster would handle the ball if Butler's not out there.

TexasBuckeye (Jul 29, 2005 4:35:31 PM)
What have you heard about Kerr's playing status for this year?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:35:37 PM)
Eligible as far as I know.

BUCKNUTZUKE (Jul 29, 2005 4:36:04 PM)
What is the story with the Taylor Price kid (I believe that is his name) he ran a 4.29 forty at OSU camp...has he gotten an OSU offer, and if so with Kurt Coleman already in the fold, do you see the Bucks going after another corner this year?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:36:54 PM)
Price is definitely on their radar right now as a keep warm kid, I would think. I did not watch him in drills at their camp. Maybe he just has the great measurable, although a coach who plays them says he can ball. They could take him maybe later on.

TexasBuckeye (Jul 29, 2005 4:37:32 PM)
How much PT do you think Wells as a true freshman will see this year? What have you heard about him?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:38:18 PM)
Heard good things about him in the limited amount of info from the players' summer workouts. I think he gets a chance a la Mo Hall did before he got dinged up, change up back to start out with, then maybe a larger role as he earns it.

Guest (Jul 29, 2005 4:38:23 PM)
Who do you look to start at OLB next year with Freeman and Hoobler? Assuming MDA is not back.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:38:34 PM)
jdawg asks about LBs in 2006 ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:39:07 PM)
You assume Freeman at one OLB and Hoobler at MLB. Maybe Curtis Terry.He's in the 2-deep now behind Hawk. Those would be the obvious 3.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:39:46 PM)
Guys, that's 90 minutes. This has been a slice. Stay tuned to the site for more chats in the weeks to come. In the big game weeks this year, we'll be doing 3-4 a week.

osubuck (Jul 29, 2005 4:39:50 PM)
what about kerr in that mix?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:40:03 PM)
That's a possibility too. They can't afford to overlook any possibilities.

drew (Jul 29, 2005 4:40:11 PM)
Will Lane be returning ko's with Ginn and will HOlmes be back with ginn in punt returns again?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:41:09 PM)
Not sure how that rotation will go. They'll probly decide that over the next month. I think Pittman, Holmes, Lane, Youboty would all be in the running on kicks. If they move Holmes or Ginn from their post on punts, well, that would be hard to imagine.

BUCKNUTZUKE (Jul 29, 2005 4:41:19 PM)
Scenerio situation...if the Bucks do land all of the rest of the top Ohio kids, and get a few OOS studs like Walton, Wallace, Reuland, Ausberry...where would this class rank us this year compared to the classes at Florida and Texas and LSU...top 10, top 5?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:42:29 PM)
If they just get the key Ohio kids and few nice players OOS, they can't be lower than 5th nationally. Heck, there are 12-13 Ohio guys in Scout's top 100 (we'll see where they are in Feb.). If they get all the Ohio guys and 2-3 studs OOS, they should be No. 1 or No. 2. Again, until I look at what other schools get, I can't really say.

osubuck (Jul 29, 2005 4:42:35 PM)
lol texas doesnt have to go out of state at all to have a top 3 class

osubuck (Jul 29, 2005 4:42:38 PM)
its sick

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:43:00 PM)
Agreed, and they are as hot as a firecracker right now after winning the Rose Bowl and, now, being picked to win the Big 12.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:43:16 PM)
They will be hard to beat (in recruiting ... and maybe also on the field ... ha ha).

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:43:42 PM)
That's 97 minutes and I am gonna have to run. It's been fun. I will turn off moderation so you can chat among yourselves.

osubuck (Jul 29, 2005 4:43:48 PM)
they get anyone they want in texas

TexasBuckeye (Jul 29, 2005 4:43:50 PM)
Thanks for the great chat Steve. I am really looking forward to the UT game so all of this overblown UT hype I have to hear down here in Texas will be ended when tOSU Buckeyes carve up the Longhorns and have them for a steak dinner.!

drew (Jul 29, 2005 4:44:01 PM)
Thanks, steve

BUCKNUTZUKE (Jul 29, 2005 4:44:16 PM)
Hey Steve thanks for your commitment to the Bucks fans and this great chat!

SteveHelwagen (Jul 29, 2005 4:44:36 PM)
Thank you for stopping by. It is a labor of love. Take care!

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