Telep Chat: Aug. 3 Archive

We welcomed Dave Telep, national recruiting editor for, for a special Chat session Wednesday. We also have a special Chat planned with OSU assistant basketball coach John Groce coming up Aug. 16.

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:07:17 PM)
Everyone be sure to remember August 16th at 9 p.m. ... OSU assistant John Groce will be in the house

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:09:33 PM)
First, Dave, thanks for joining us

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:09:59 PM)
Appreciate you having me in. There is reason to be excited in Columbus!

Sign Pollack (Aug 3, 2005 2:09:47 PM)
Dave what are your impressions of Kosta Koufos compared to the other big men in the state of Ohio?

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:11:02 PM)
Big fan of Kosta. Had a huge Nike Hoop Jamboree then didn't play particularly well in Vegas. Regardless, he's Top 30 to me in the end and I really like him. Back to the basket, facing up or playing outside, he's got a lot of tools. Plus, he was a surprise shot blocker at Nike. Both parents went to OSU as I'm sure you know.

Guest (Aug 3, 2005 2:11:29 PM)
Dave- Many seem to feel that Ohio State needs a "4" in the 2006 class to compliment the Four kids we already have. My question is with Matt Terwilliger, Brayden Bell already on Campus and with players like Kosta Koufos and Dallas Lauderdale seemingly high on OSU wouldn't it make more sense to get another PG like Will Walker since Conley and Butler will be the only two?

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:13:03 PM)
Dave, Orlando Buck asks that with Koufos and Lauderdale coming down the line, wouldn't Ohio State be benefited to find another guard to back up Conley and Butler with this class?

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:13:18 PM)
*potentially, down the line

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:15:02 PM)
Getting a backup point guard to play behind the stud you recruited in the same class isn't as easy as it sounds. In the lengthy history of recruiting, few guys have been excited to be a backup. So what are your options? You look for a combo. Not many out there at this point to get excited about. Your wings are strong, Conley has generally been injury free and you ride him. There are so many players in Ohio getting another one out of the state to provide insurance could be tough.

OTC (Aug 3, 2005 2:15:21 PM)
What is happening with Diebler? Is he OSU quality in your opinion Dave?

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:17:21 PM)
Great question. In the end, he will be Ohio State quality but there's a qualifier here. After a strong HS season and spring AAU season he contracted mono. He came back too early and did not play well this summer. He's still not 75% IMO. In the end, I believe he's HM and OSU quality but the Buckeyes deal is moving quickly and decisions have to be made sooner than later. Having said that, I can't see OSU moving full bore on him coming off his summer. Again, I don't think it's his fault that he wasn't able to show his best in July, I just think he was sick still. In the end, he's definitely HM IMO and someone gets a good one.

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:18:33 PM)
Dave, the most common question we get here obviously... and I'll throw this to you, what do you think the viable options remaining for the fifth spot (the PF position) in the 2006 recruiting class for Ohio State are besides Raymar Morgan

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:20:20 PM)
Tough call. Morgan has earned the right to be that guy. Now, all the while as OSU waffled, Michigan State pressed him hard and has become a formidable foe. Macklin has been mentioned but IMO he won't go out of the Big East, ACC area. I know everyone wants the spot filled but think about this: wtih Guys like Chris Wright, Kosta and Lauderdale potentially in the mix the next year, what's the rush?

riverwatchbucknut (Aug 3, 2005 2:21:35 PM)
Dave what are the odds for OSU and MSU with regards to Raymar? Who would you compare his game to at the collegiate level?

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:23:54 PM)
Another good question. Morgan is a tough one to compare to because one of the beauties of his game is that he's tough to nail down. For example, the ongoing "what position is he debate" rages. The correct answer is that he's a player. If he were a FB guy you might refer to him as an ATHLETE becuase he's multiple positions. To me, he wants to be convinced to stay close to home. I honestly don't know whether he picks OSU or MSU at this point. He's been a tough read. Quiet kid who has consistently been a tough read. Sorry so vague.

SteveHelwagen (Aug 3, 2005 2:22:36 PM)
Dave, welcome to Bucknuts, we appreciate everything the Scout guys -- both football and basketball -- do for our site. Want to ask if you think Ohio State's decision to wait on offering Morgan will be a huge factor in his decision. He says the visits will be a big factor, I know. As they say on the radio, I'll hang up and listen (ha ha). Thanks again for all you guys do.

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:25:09 PM)
Steve, appreciate the note. I think the decision to wait on offering him initially steamed him a little. Remember, at the time he was playing at a high level and was probably thinking an offer should "come any day now." OSU was patient and to me, one of the predictors is exactly what you are talking about: inwardly was he too offended to take the offer? I frankly can't tell yet.

OTC (Aug 3, 2005 2:25:35 PM)
We heard a lot about Conley shutting down Mayo late in the AAU season, was that due to Conley or was Mayo just having a few off games?

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:26:53 PM)
I was at the game. Conley did a great job staying in front of him early. Could he do this all the time? That would be asking a lot. Mayo, at that point in the summer, was settling for jumpers and wasn't at his best. Mike did a nice job with him but i would never use the term shutting him down. Staying in front of him and defending him with success yes, but not fully shutting him down.

ToMac (Aug 3, 2005 2:27:42 PM)
In the last few days we are hearing about several high school players transferring to Ohio from other states. Is this happening a lot in other places?

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:27:42 PM)
(Referring to Herb Pope, and potentially Eric Wallace)

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:28:50 PM)
Have not heard about Pope; he's been in HS in Va, Md and Pa from what I can gather. He's a big timer and we had him at No. 15 BEFORE the summer began. As for Wallace, if he leaves the state of NC then there's a good chance his college choices move as well.

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:29:34 PM)
I want to add to what Dave said, that I hear the staff may have an interest in Wallace, so if he ends up in Ohio, I'm sure they will take a look

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:31:04 PM)
In regards to the second half of your question on transfers: yes, it's happening a lot. Too much IMO.

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:31:08 PM)
Sure, they'd take a look at him but no guarantee they would go on him.

riverwatchbucknut (Aug 3, 2005 2:29:56 PM)
Dave what is your opinion on Dante Jackson? I think he should be offered already, sounds like a great guard with height to go with Koufos and Dallas. Where does he rank nationally overall and in terms of guards?

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:31:39 PM)
Jackson certainly opened my eyes at the AAU's. I don't agree, I would not offer him right now but I would move him up the watchlist and continue recruiting him. His shooting spree at the nationals was witnessed by Matta toward the end of the game. He's a potential National Top 100 guy right now but guys in the region (Gordon, Legion, Tucker, Summers) are much better prospects at this juncture. Credit Jackson, he was great in Orlando and deserves more attention but an offer might be a little early for him. Need more information :)

ucfpengbujck (Aug 3, 2005 2:32:16 PM)
Dave, I was at the AAU nationals and loved Ohio players Dews, Graves,and Ricky Jackson. Any chance that Ricky gets a high major scholarship? I said on our site if Raymar turns us down then give Ricky a ship since this guy gets after it.

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:33:46 PM)
Graves has had a tremendous spring and summer. He was in our Top 100 (thankfully!) before July. Dews is beginning to take his game off the bounce and that's a great sign if you are Miami coach Frank Haith. Didn't watch that much of Ricky.

Sign Pollack (Aug 3, 2005 2:34:43 PM)
How would you rate the trio of talented Ohio wings in the class of 2007 (Nate Miles, Dante Jackson, and Diebler)

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:35:54 PM)
Miles has the most natural talent. I would go Diebler, Miles, Jackson right now but again, Dante is the truly hot guy at this stage. It'll be interesting to see if he keeps ascending. When healthy, i'm a HUGE Diebler guy.

riverwatchbucknut (Aug 3, 2005 2:36:07 PM)
Dave I know Bill Walker is an athletic freak but is he really that much more than a dunking machine currently? Does he have a good shot? And could he play power forward in college?

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:37:43 PM)
Questions I asked myself this summer. Walker does indeed have some perimeter to his game. Made 2 3s in one game I was at and 1 in another. With Mayo around, he doesn't have to play out there. I think he needs to keep improving that area and I would add rebounding to his wishlist. In short, he is more than a dunking machine but I would like to see him show those aspects of his game off a little more. As for dunking, he is without peer.

OTC (Aug 3, 2005 2:38:04 PM)
Could you see Josh Chichester ever contributing to the bball program at OSU since he won't be concentrating on bball all year round?

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:39:33 PM)
Maybe. He's excellent in transition and dunks what he can. Skill set for hoops isn't quite there but with the way he plays, he could conceivably get on the court quickly after FB season. It's not like he's a jump shooter who would have to tweak his stroke. He's a run/jump athlete who gets on the glass. Provided he can pick up the plays quickly, he could get some backup burn.

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:39:57 PM)
Folks, we have time for a few more questions before Dave leaves. So if there are any other pressing questions, get them in now!

ucfpengbujck (Aug 3, 2005 2:40:03 PM)
Dave, whats your take on Chris Wright? The game I saw at Disney he showed electrifying leaping and he seems to have great length to block shots but he also seemed limited at this point.

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:42:17 PM)
UCF: True. He's a super athlete. At the Hoop Jam he made some perimeter shots. In Orlando, he was coming off the spider bite and didn't attempt any perimeter shots in the games I watched. He's Brandon Foust athletically and if he can add a mid-range jumper he could be big time. We rated him at No. 20 before the summer and that was a little aggressive. He deserved to have his name out there so mission accomplished. He's more Top 50 right now but if he can add some skill to that ridiculous leaping ability you can see a little Dahntay Jones in him. Time will tell but he's a great kid and he's got a chance!

OTC (Aug 3, 2005 2:42:50 PM)
Do you think Matta's recruiting success is kind of a fluke, or can OSU fans expect good classes year after year?

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:44:45 PM)
Excellent question. It's no fluke. Some coaches wouldn't even have been able to get those guys on campus for visits, let alone get it done. Dean Smith said that the most important thing you do as a head coach is hire your staff. He did that well. Together they have recruited at a high level via character, commitment to kids and energy. I think OSU will recruit at a high level the next three years especially since the region is loaded. Now, to sustain that nationally they'll need to turn Greg Oden's arrival into a berth in the national semifinals.

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:46:37 PM)
Dave, I know a name that has been thrown in the mix in Columbus seems to be that of Rakim Sanders, what do you think of his game? He's a guy I got to see play with Mike Conley, Greg Oden, and Daequan Cook at the ABCD Camp, and he seemed to be a shooter first, but played under control and a decent passer too.

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:47:54 PM)
He's being evaluated. Alan Major watched him once in Vegas. Way too early to call him a legit target though. He's got a terrific body for a shooting guard. IMO He's a player and is on the watchlist.

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:48:22 PM)
OK Dave, well that's all we've got for you, so thanks for joining us!

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:48:31 PM)
Everyone thank Dave for stopping by,

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:48:32 PM)
and remember...

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:48:47 PM)
August 16th at 9 p.m. is the next hoops chat, which will be with John Groce

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:48:58 PM)
Stay tuned for other chats coming up at Bucknuts, and thanks again Dave!

Dave Telep (Aug 3, 2005 2:49:00 PM)
Folks, excellent questions. I hope we can do this again. I do a lot of these but often times the questions aren't as good as these. Thanks for having me.

OTC (Aug 3, 2005 2:49:03 PM)
Thanks for the chat Dave

MJ (Aug 3, 2005 2:49:13 PM)
Great job Dave!

ucfpengbujck (Aug 3, 2005 2:49:42 PM)
Loved having you Dave. Please come back!

ToMac (Aug 3, 2005 2:49:49 PM)
thanks dave and kyle

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:49:51 PM)
Okay folks, I'm out of here myself. We will stay on top of the chat scene

Kyle S. Lamb (Aug 3, 2005 2:50:24 PM)
Thanks for stopping in everyone! Take care

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