Lamb Chat Archive - 10/11

Hoops specialist Kyle Lamb joined us last night for a club chat as the start of the basketball season is right around the corner. We have a transcript posted below.

bw1954 (Oct 11, 2005 9:13:19 PM)
The key to having a great program is having solid recruiting classes year after year . . Losing Morgan doesn't bother me if it helps us get Koufous and/ or Gates . I've seen Raymar several times , Koufous and Gates have a much bigger upside Whats your thoughts ?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:14:36 PM)
I agree on both accounts, but I think Raymar still has a high ceiling. He was limited just because he's not necessarily the quickest, his outside shot isn't refined, and his ball skills are average, but still he's probably the better player at least right now....

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:15:44 PM)
However, as you said, Koufos and Gates both probably have a higher ceiling. I would say Koufos has the highest ceiling because you're talking about a kid that will end up 7-1 or 7-2 by the time he gets to Ohio State, and he will have perimeter skills, he will be able to shoot from the outside, he isn't afraid to bang around with the big boys, and he can play both facing the basket and with his back turned in the paint. He's truly a well-rounded player.

final4 (Oct 11, 2005 9:16:22 PM)
What are your feelings on Butler this year? Will he star in 2007 over Conley?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:17:30 PM)
I believe that Butler (or Mayes) will likely start over Conley for the better part of his freshman year. Butler has the chance to take the reigns of PG this year if he has in fact improved his handle and forms a consistency to his outside shot. I think you will see a lot better (and more confident Butler) this year, but whether he beats out Mayes...we'll see

bw1954 (Oct 11, 2005 9:17:59 PM)
Is OSU in next years pre season NIT ? If so what a show case for the Thad 5 .

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:19:36 PM)
I don't believe next year's NIT has been set this early, but my guess is 'probably not.' Ohio State will have a much more aggressive schedule next year with the likes of UCLA, whoever the ACC opponent ends up being (which I expect to be North Carolina, Wake Forest or Maryland), Iowa State and possibly a few wildcard possibilities such as Florida, Cincinnati or another team or two along that level.

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:20:34 PM)
It has been a slow start, so to those just joining us, it won't take long to get questions in if you act now! ;)

MJ (Oct 11, 2005 9:21:09 PM)
Starting 5?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:21:16 PM)
This year...

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:21:51 PM)
Butler or Mayes, Lewis, Sullinger, Sylvester and Dials. I could also see a scenario where Mayes starts at the two and Lewis and Sullinger battle for minutes at the wing.

billlw (Oct 11, 2005 9:22:00 PM)
Can you elaborate further on why you now feel that the Thad 4 may sign in November? Is there new news on the penalties forthcomming or is it something else?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:23:41 PM)
Can't go too far into detail, but I can tell you the meeting I reported about a few weeks ago where Matta was supposed to sit down with everyone and lay things out on the table reportedly happened. It seems all parties came out with a better understanding of what's likely and what isn't, and there is some protection to everyone by signing. As of this moment, while no decision will be made until close to signing day, the odds favor all five commitments being signed in the second week of November

nhbkye (Oct 11, 2005 9:24:03 PM)
will the big ten do better in acc challenge

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:25:18 PM)
This year and next year both, I would imagine. This year the Big Ten will really only potentially have one elite team (Michigan State), but it will have a handful (up to six or seven) who could be very solid and make a small run in the NCAA Tournament. Next year, I believe with teams like Ohio State stepping up and being much improved, it could give the ACC at least a tough challenge...something that hasn't been happening.

bw1954 (Oct 11, 2005 9:25:38 PM)
Any new info on the recruiting front ? The Offut verbal came out of the blue .

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:26:53 PM)
Well, every once in a while i'm blindsided, and this one caught me off guard just as it did you guys. Certainly, as those who saw my August 1 recruiting chart, Offutt was a guy that Ohio State was going to be heavily involved with, and I knew he was someone really high on the list, but I didn't expect that anywhere near this soon...

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:28:08 PM)
As for what's next, as i've been reporting, I think Dallas Lauderdale is the guy to keep an eye on. At this point in time, I believe there's a great chance he verbal to Ohio State, and I think it should end up happening before his season begins. Kosta Koufos is sitting well with the Buckeyes, and while I still expect a spring decision for him, there's been increasing chatter that he could drop the ball a little sooner than expected.

rbuck (Oct 11, 2005 9:28:19 PM)
Hi Kyle, Does the fact that Oden and Conley are going to wait to sign scare you at all?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:29:31 PM)
Doesn't look like they will wait. You can reference the chat transcript (which should be posted tomorrow) for further details, but as I talked about a few minutes ago, the plan as of now seems to be there's a good chance they may yet sign in November. Even if they wait, there's nothing to be worried about for Ohio State fans and I can't stress that enough. The only way they aren't Buckeyes is if the NCAA comes down with an unprecedented 3-year postseason ban.

nhbkye (Oct 11, 2005 9:29:40 PM)
are students closer to the floor yet @ VCA?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:30:26 PM)
That's a negative. Nothing has been determined on that yet. About the only thing I could see changing for right now is the possibility that they will be behind both baskets, and the media would be moved to the pressbox. As of now, I don't think that determination has been made.

MJ (Oct 11, 2005 9:30:31 PM)
Why did Lauderdale class ranking drop so much over the summer?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:31:19 PM)
That was mostly because he didn't make it to a lot of tournaments. He had a few nagging injuries that kept him out, he stayed back a lot because of his mother's illness, and he didn't make it to the Reebok ABCD Camp in July for that very same reason. That's the biggest reason for his drop.

rbuck (Oct 11, 2005 9:31:38 PM)
How is Lighty coming along?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:33:12 PM)
He's doing real well. The last time I talked to David a few weeks ago, he was in high spirits and he felt by the end of October he would be ready to get back into action. He has worked hard to get back into shape, and i've been hearing constant reports that his upper body is absolutely chiseled.

tarbuck (Oct 11, 2005 9:33:31 PM)
Are we still looking at new uniforms including the grays for Oden and Co. in late 06' ?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:33:51 PM)
Good question. Last time I heard way back in the spring, that was the plan. Let me try to find out if that's still likely for next year.

westpalmbuck (Oct 11, 2005 9:33:59 PM)
Just came on, sorry if this has been asked. Can I get a quick summary of the DeCourcy article on Raymar that is causing such a stir?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:35:10 PM)
In short, DeCourcy surmised that Morgan wasn't a great rebounder or defender, and that all three teams (Michigan State, Ohio State and Michigan) won in this recruitment for various reasons. Aside from the slight jab at Morgan's ability, the article was mostly positive, but it's understandable why Michigan State people were a little upset at it from their end.

nhbkye (Oct 11, 2005 9:35:18 PM)
why doesn't OSU capitalize more on all the great b-ball played in the Dayton area, outside of Mark baker I dont think we've ever really done well there..D Anderson transferred from UK

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:36:28 PM)
I think there have been a lot of academic casualties with some of the Dayton stars unfortunately. Other than Daequan, I really can't remember the last star to come out of there anyhow. But I do know a lot of Dayton area athletes for one reason or another have struggled academically.

rbuck (Oct 11, 2005 9:36:46 PM)
Who would you compare these five recruits that are coming in next year?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:37:56 PM)
I don't know that there's a real good comparison, and it's simply because three of them play so well together...more than i've ever seen three players of their caliber play as a unit. Throw in David Lighty who has really bonded with them and is a similar style of player and personality, and you have four guys that should give Ohio State the kind of chemistry Illinois had this year as a team.

bw1954 (Oct 11, 2005 9:38:11 PM)
How good are your sources under the Matta regime compared to Obie , I'm not asking for you to divulge them . Just curious because they seem to be very reliable under both Coaches .

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:39:45 PM)
They are different, but only because there's a different philosophy with the two coaching staffs, so the sources have a different sort of method as to how the information dissemenates down the line. There was a core group of sources that I have that has solid contacts all throughout the state, as i've also been fortunate enough to have the same benefit myself, but sources close to the program are probably about the same type, just different in what gets passed through the grapevine.

tarbuck (Oct 11, 2005 9:40:18 PM)
What did the basketball staff think of the tourney starting in Columbus? I really feel it should be in the basketball program.

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:41:12 PM)
Still waiting to hear back on that tar. I did pass that along, but given this is a really busy time for the staff, i've yet to hear their take on it and whether they knew it previously.

Guest (Oct 11, 2005 9:41:32 PM)
Is the game between Dunbar and Oden/Conley's high school still set for December on ESPN?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:42:01 PM)
The question was whether Dunbar and Lawrence North are still playing on ESPN. That is an affirmative. I believe the exact date is December 8 at Conseco Fieldhouse in Indianapolis.

MJ (Oct 11, 2005 9:42:56 PM)
Would Ohio U. give OSU a good game this year?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:44:13 PM)
On paper, yes. That Ohio U. team under Tim O'Shea is very talented. They have a lot of young good kids there that should make them a tournament team the next few years. But that being said, I think Ohio State has the chance to have a really good year if they get rebounding and solid PG play.

nhbkye (Oct 11, 2005 9:45:00 PM)
Can TD make all america this year...I believe he is the heart and soul of the bucks

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:46:08 PM)
I don't think he's a guy that would make All-American. The reason being, he's not considered a pro prospect, he's playing center and he's 6-9, but he doesn't block shots and he's not considered a monster rebounder. He just won't get the type of attention necessary to get that high of an honor. However, make no mistake, he's a guy that might mean as much to his team as anyone in the country, and I think he's going to be a very good player this year.

buckmark (Oct 11, 2005 9:46:14 PM)
what is your expectation for the length of stay we will see from Oden, Cook, and Conley? Will they all stay 2-3 years?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:46:32 PM)
My belief is that you're going to see two years out of Oden and Cook. Conley should be around three or even four.

buckmark (Oct 11, 2005 9:47:21 PM)
Kyle, if you were to guess at some stats for this year, what might they be? How many points per game, high defensive pressure with lots of steals, etc. Not sure I asked that very well.

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:47:34 PM)
You asked it fine... I get the gist of it!

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:49:28 PM)
I think you will see this team average around 75 to 78 points a game, but they will have the firepower of busting out for 90 to 100 points on rare occasion. They will not run an awful lot simply because they won't have a lot of depth, but you'll see some opportune pressure both full court and half court. Steals should be high this year with Butler, Mayes and Foster. I think you will see a real good defensive field goal percentage number this year too. Possibly under 38 percent.

nhbkye (Oct 11, 2005 9:49:45 PM)
follow up...20ppg and 12rebs a game w/ 20+ win season wont do it?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:50:58 PM)
Oh sure, if Dials put up those kind of numbers and Ohio State had well over 20 wins I think it's possible. But I think while the 20 point number might be possible, realistically you should be expecting around 8 or 9 rebounds a game. In the next Schott in the Arm, myself, Dave Biddle and Steve Helwagen will be giving our preseason predictions, and in them, I'll have Dials at around 16 points and 9 rebounds.

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:52:06 PM)
I've got time for about 10 more minutes of questions if you have any others

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:52:20 PM)
While i'm thinking about it, our next basketball chat will be in two weeks...

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:52:44 PM)
Also, stay tuned because Thursday is media day for Ohio State basketball, so our staff will have complete coverage on both the website and for next month's Bucknuts Magazine.

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:53:39 PM)
One last reminder, the practice starts on Friday at 9 PM. It will not be open to the public, but a public practice similar to that of last year is tentatively planned for sometime in late October or early November.

buckmark (Oct 11, 2005 9:53:45 PM)
Leading scorer this year? Dials? AssistS, etc. Just trying to get a feel for who you really see as the main producers.

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:54:17 PM)
I see Ron Lewis as the leading scorer, Dials as the leading rebounder, Butler as the leading assist man, Foster as the leader in steals (with Mayes a close second)...

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:54:43 PM)
In points, I see the top five as being Lews, Dials, Mayes, Sylvester and Sullinger.

bballbucks (Oct 11, 2005 9:54:49 PM)
Have you heard anything new on Raed Mostafa from North Dakota?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:55:31 PM)
Yes actually. Ohio State is no longer pursuing him. They did look at him this summer, and early in the fall, but they are no longer after Mostafa from what i'm told. I still hear they are looking at 3/4 prospects though, so i'll continue to keep my eyes peeled.

MJ (Oct 11, 2005 9:55:38 PM)
Who is the better X and O coach between Matta and O'Brien?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:57:09 PM)
This will be unpopular, but I think Jim O'Brien was one of the top five x's and o's coaches in America. Not slighting Thad Matta in any way, shape or form as far as x's and o's, but that might be the one knock is that i've seen a few coaches get the best of him before. But as far as motivation, running a program, recruiting, etc etc, he's a terrific coach. But I given O'Brien a nod here. That guy, like him or hate him, knows the game of basketball.

nhbkye (Oct 11, 2005 9:57:18 PM)
thanks kyle, will Sylvester be consistent like his dad, or is it hit and miss?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:57:52 PM)
I think it's about attitude with Matt. If he wants to be consistent, he can be. He's got the talent, but he has to bring his mind with him on every night out.

buckmark (Oct 11, 2005 9:58:03 PM)
Are you or anyone there going to be able to keep us regularly updated on the seasons of our recruits this year

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:58:54 PM)
We will definitely be doing that, especially with the guys coming in. It's tough to do sometimes given accessibility and when guys don't have local newspaper coverage online, or when we don't have relationships with their coaches, but none of that is a problem with these guys.

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 9:59:41 PM)
Along those lines...I want everyone to know that Friday, November 4 and Saturday, November 5, Othello Hunter's team (Hillsborough Community College) will be playing up in Toledo against Owens College. I hope to be up there on Friday to cover it and get pictures and a story.

buckmark (Oct 11, 2005 9:59:56 PM)
with all the talk of Tress' controlling coaching style, how woulfd you descibe Matta's. relationship with staff, players, freedom for input, etc.

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 10:01:15 PM)
He's very open-minded. He has tough demands, and he expects a lot from his staff and players alike. However, players know they can go to him with problems and he's not a guy that is going to berate a player. He's energetic but in control. Honestly, he strikes me as the Pete Carroll of the basketball coaching profession in the way he conducts himself as a person and as a coach.

MJ (Oct 11, 2005 10:01:20 PM)
Any current OSU players have a shot at the NBA?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 10:02:11 PM)
Lewis and Mayes both I believe have a shot. Dials will get a cup of coffee with a big senior season, but he will have his work cut out unless he improves his range and perimeter game.

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 10:03:32 PM)
I have time for about two or three more questions then I'm calling it a night to get some work done!

nhbkye (Oct 11, 2005 10:04:23 PM)
Willis Reed?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 10:04:31 PM)
What about him? haha.

nhbkye (Oct 11, 2005 10:04:37 PM)
Will OSU win 20?

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 10:05:11 PM)
I'll be very surprised if they don't surpass 20. I'm tentatively saying 21-6 in regular season and 2-1 in the BTT. So you're looking at heading to the NCAA's with a 23-7 record.

nhbkye (Oct 11, 2005 10:05:23 PM)
6-9 guy who could get it done...obviously a Dials fan!

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 10:05:52 PM)
Good point. But that was a different era. It was before basketball became a game of athleticism, perimeter shooting and beating people off the dribble.

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 10:06:16 PM)
I agree with you though, Terence Dials is a great basketball player. There are not many college players better than he is.

buckmark (Oct 11, 2005 10:06:26 PM)
thanks for all you are doing to spur tOSU basketball fervor that is sure to take off with all the top talent coming. It is exciting to be a fan of the Buckeyes.

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 10:07:03 PM)
And thanks for all the support. We've been proud to step up our coverage, and it has been a lot easier to do with the excitement surrounding the program and with our base here at the site.

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 10:07:31 PM)
Thanks everyone for joining tonight. We'll do it again in about two weeks, and hopefully with a much better turnout!

Kyle S. Lamb (Oct 11, 2005 10:07:35 PM)
Good night everyone.

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