Housteau Chat Archive: Oct. 14

Gary Housteau stopped by chat today to discuss the state of OSU football as well as some recruiting chatter. A transcript is posted below.

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:08:45 AM)
Good morning to all you Bucknuts out there. This is a moderated chat so please feel free to send in your questions any time and I'll address them as I come upon them.

BuckeyeDave (Oct 14, 2005 11:13:55 AM)
Gary - Thanks for your time today. A lot of people have expressed a certain amount of frustration with the Ohio St's sputtering offense this season. You are an adamant Jim Tressel support (as am I, in general). What is your view of the season thus far, specifically in terms of offensive performance? Do you think Coach Tressel will ever allow an OC to take control of game planning and play calling?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:13:55 AM)
Hi BuckeyeDave, thanks for firing off the first question. I am a avid supporter of Jim Tressel the person and Jim Tressel the head coach...I always have been. But if you know my history dating back to YSU, I've never been a proponent of Jim Tressel the offensive coordinator...never. If I've stated this once, I've said it a thousand times that Jim Tressel believes in a philosophy and executing to the nth degree more than he believes in any individual talent at his disposal. This is now obvious to most people. From day one, I've always said the Jim Tressel plays not to lose, that time of possession and field possession and the turnover margin - especially on the road, are things he believes more than anything. He is the guy who has stated over and over that the PUNT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PLAY IN FOOTBALL...I see him doing nothing different than he's always done in the past. It will never change. He plays not to lose and he's won five national titles that way.

OscarMeyer (Oct 14, 2005 11:19:09 AM)
Gary, if you were the head coach would you give Zwick another shot?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:19:09 AM)
Hi OscarMeyer, again I'm the lone voice in the wind on this one. You bet Justin Zwick would be my QB to this day. He's a quarterback that knows how to look the defense over and pick you apart. I chuckle out loud when I hear people say that Troy Smith is a better runner, who the heck cares about being a better runner at QB? I want a QB who can throw five completions to four different receivers in one game. I want a QB who set a sophomore passing mark against Marshall last year. What may I ask has JZ done wrong since the Alamo Bowl game when he was reinserted back in the game. Everyone wants to hold his first six games from last year against him...horsehockey! This offense was pathetic as a whole last year early in the season and TS benefited from maturity and the emergence of TGII who has been stifled for no logical reason this year. If Ryan Hamby catches that pass in the end zone against Texas, JZ would still be running the show. He deserves another shot. Oh he really does. How much more do we have to endure for the sake of athleticism?

military buck (Oct 14, 2005 11:21:44 AM)
so who and when is the next commit

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:21:44 AM)
Hi military buck...we appreciate your service if you are in the military...thank you! I know Browning won't commit tomorrow or the next day but he will commit. I still firmly believe that Rose and Small, despite the offense, will commit in December as well. I really have no read on the way recruiting is going except for the players that I come in contact with. The players that want to Buckeyes, they don't want obviously! Go figure! Chris Wells can't get here fast enough if this offense is never going to change.

military buck (Oct 14, 2005 11:22:51 AM)
what is going on with grant swchartz from cali thought he was going to commit soon

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:22:51 AM)
Military he's another guy that wants to be a Buckeye that is floating out there somewhere. I don't have any firsthand knowledge of any imminent commitment from him but that doesn't mean he won't commit.

buckicrazy (Oct 14, 2005 11:26:23 AM)
If JT wanted a running QB why doesn't he put TGJR in at QB. I feel that the offense would be in better shape right now if Zwick had been the QB.

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:26:23 AM)
Hi buckicrazy...I've been following JT loyally for close to 20 years and I still can't figure out some things that he does and doesn't do on offense. I too feel this offense would be better served with JZ at the controls. And that's not easy for me to say. I hear it from the Glenville contingent all the time because they think I don't like Troy Smith. I like both guys personally and you all know I really like Glenville ... but I can only take so much. Give JZ a fair chance already. Not two lame series to start the Texas game. He was the one suspended. He's been very honorable in his role no matter how much it's killing him privately. You don't hear him lashing out in the media like Smith did last year. Hello!

jasongermany (Oct 14, 2005 11:30:09 AM)
Gary, I had the pleasure of seing Maurice Clarett play in high school. Can i expect Chris Wells to make the same impact for the offense next year?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:30:09 AM)
Hi jasongermany...I don't know that ultimately but I have a really special feeling about what I've seen from Wells as I did when I watch Reecie play in high school. I really think Beanie is special and I'm trying to be as objective as I can. I don't say that without much contemplation. His attributes, other than his pure heart and desire which is still to be determined, are a notch better than Clarett's already. I've seen him become very determined as a runner this year but I don't know if he's of Reecie's caliber in that aspect. I sure think he will be special...very special.

rbuck (Oct 14, 2005 11:34:16 AM)
Gary, I know you've been around JT a long time. If it came to Gene Smith telling him either hire a coordinator with some innovation or your gone... Would he go? I would really like to see him here for another 10-15 years, but with someone innovative running that offense.

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:34:16 AM)
These hypotheticals will never come to fruition. He's already of JoPa status from an administrative standpoint. Just the fact that OSU will host YSU some day, according to Gene Smith himself, is all the proof you need on JT's status with the people that count. He's a lifer. OSU fans just have to learn, as I already have, to take the good with the bad. The offense allows Jim Tressel to control the flow of the game and he will never give that control up. It's not because of ego, it's because of the way he coaches football. It's all that he knows. If Josh Huston kicks that 50 yarder against Texas, Tressel Ball is still thriving. PSU game may have turned out differently. I'm just surprised it's take most of you this long to see what I've been preaching here for five years. Get used to it.

jasongermany (Oct 14, 2005 11:34:47 AM)
Gary, Do you think the Kuhn player from Louisville is worthy of an Ohio State Offer?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:34:47 AM)
No.

Guest (Oct 14, 2005 11:38:01 AM)
I agree about JZ, Gary. Any word on Joe Thomas? Is he going to stick with Pitt?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:38:01 AM)
OscarMeyer asks about Joe Thomas...I've had a brief but informative conversation the week of the Iowa game...I can't say with certainty that he will or will not stick with Pitt but based on that one brief conversation alone...I say he will. I will talk with Joe Thomas on Saturday night I hope to get the real story on his recruitment. Maybe with Boone playing right tackle now, his overall view of the situation could change. I think OSU at least has a legitimate shot.

BuckeyeDave (Oct 14, 2005 11:41:00 AM)
Gary - I hate to beat a dead horse (so to speak) but how do you suppose Coach Tressel will respond if AD Smith, President Holbrook or the *real* powers that be, "strongly reccomend" that he hires an OC and hands the offense off to him?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:41:00 AM)
It's just not going to happen! Dream on!

buckicrazy (Oct 14, 2005 11:42:16 AM)
I'm glad to see Mike D is back. How much playing time can we exspect to see him get?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:42:16 AM)
I don't think a whole lot initially buckicrazy. I'm sure he'll be eased very slowly back into action.

jasongermany (Oct 14, 2005 11:45:37 AM)
Gary, what high school game will you be attending this evening?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:45:37 AM)
Thanks for asking jason...I'm really excited to be going to the Coldwater-Versailles game this evening. I'm leaving shortly after my chat today. My expectations for this game are sky high. Granted it's a D-IV game, but the atmosphere and excitement should be second to none. I also am looking forward to watching Ross Homan play, very much. Homan is truly one of the very good guys in this class. Just love the kid as a person and a football player. Tomorrow night I'll catch the second half of the Holy War in Cleveland. How's that for a weekend. Da-Da-Da-Da-Da...I'm loving it! Smile!

LA_buck (Oct 14, 2005 11:49:27 AM)
I understand all of the frustration from OSU fans because of the lack of offense against PSU. But, c'mon, asking for Tressel's head on a platter? Isn't that a bit premature? I mean, you change 3 or 4 plays in the PSU and Texas games and we're ranked #2 and headed for the NC game. People have a right to complain, but JT has brought back the swagger to OSU football again. He's not perfect ( kind of boring ), but he

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:49:27 AM)
Hi LA...I too have been amazed, astonished and flabbergasted with the melt down this week. It's quite comical from my perspective. It's obviously a knee-jerk reaction. When you consider all of the positives that Jim Tressel stands for and has already brung to this program, it's hilarious! But by the same token, Tressel ball give-ith and Tressel ball take-ith away. Premature is surely the word!

LA_buck (Oct 14, 2005 11:51:03 AM)
How about Larry Kehres from Mount Union as offensive coordinator? I played for him in the 90s, he is an amazing offensive mind.

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:51:04 AM)
I agree but never happen. I'd like to have Chuck Kyle or the guy who runs his offense take over. None of that will ever happen. For Jim Tressel, it's simply a fabric of his being.

texbucknut (Oct 14, 2005 11:53:41 AM)
Gary, Do we need Mike D back or Marcus F back this year and waste a year of eligibity. If these two were on offense and could bring needed that is another story. But to waste a year?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:53:41 AM)
Hi texbuck...I surely do think it would be a waste of a season for Marcus Freeman at this point. In D'Andrea's case, he doesn't get a sixth year from this...which I still don't understand why?...so it would be in his best interest to play whenever he's cleared or start to get back into action then. I hope Freeman takes a medical redshirt this year but I don't get the feeling that will happen.

navybuck (Oct 14, 2005 11:56:04 AM)
Gary - That is what I think will turn out tragically for JT. IMO he has been very clear that he has no intention of surrendering control over the offense, new staff member or not. I don't think JT will survive puttering along at 9-3, and I think 9-3 may well end up as his overall average with the offense he is putting out there. I admire the man for his ability to stick to what he thinks is right; but in this case that may be his undoing.

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:56:04 AM)
Navy I respect your insight as always but I think JT will always be solid enough on and off the field to remain the coach as long as he desires. I just can't even imagine him ever being fired or asked to resign. I just can't fathom that.

LA_buck (Oct 14, 2005 11:58:13 AM)
Confused about the DAndrea situation. So, he only gets the remainder of this year and next year to play?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:58:13 AM)
Don't know what happened to the five year to play four with D'Andrea when one of those years, this year, could be a medical redshirt year? I know I'm ignorant of the precise rule here...I guess that's why I don't understand it. It's my understanding that whether he actually plays this year or not he only has five years? The same as Zwick and the other guys who came in that class?

navybuck (Oct 14, 2005 11:58:44 AM)
Gary - It was somewhat unusual for MD to get the waiver when he did. Normally, you have to wait until you have exhausted all your eligibility. I bet that part of MD's request pointed out that he didn't need a 6th year, just another year of competition. It doesn't mean he couldn't have gotten it if he asked, but I think tactically the request was limited to another year of competition to make favorable action more likely by the NCAA.

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:58:44 AM)
Thank you navy but I still don't understand the logic.

LA_buck (Oct 14, 2005 11:59:39 AM)
Just a thought. What about AJ Hawk at tailback? He runs like a 4.5 40 right?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 11:59:40 AM)
Nice thought LA but not going to happen. Smile!

LA_buck (Oct 14, 2005 12:02:14 PM)
I am a huge JT fan...grew up in Y-town and watched him turn YSU into a national power. Then, as expected, he went to OSU and won a championship in 2 years. I mean, this guy is one of the greats in football coaching. Sure, he frustrates me too, but let's throw as much positive energy as we can behind JT and the team. We need to win the rest of them this year.

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:02:14 PM)
Patience is obviously wearing very thin LA. I think it's going to take more than positive energy at this point. It's going to take TDs and lots of them. I've this many times already as well that this defense deserves a better offense. It's not like the cupboard is bare. Two Elite 11 QB's and four awesome wideouts and this offense is a national embarrassment. But OSU leads the league in time of possession! There's the disconnect! There's the denial!

jasongermany (Oct 14, 2005 12:07:07 PM)
Gary, are there any current Ohio High School Coaches that have realistic chances to be a part of the Ohio State Staff in a few years?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:07:07 PM)
Boy that's a difficult question for sure...It's really a shame that I don't see very many offenses in high school that are adept at both running and passing. St. Ignatius is probably the best one in that aspect and that's a veteran staff. For the life of me, I can not ignore why these coaches handicapp themselves by either running or passing exclusively. Some offenses I see are downright painful to watch. So no I have not really seen a dynamic football coach in Ohio with the requisite age and qualifications I would be looking for. Again that's just thinking off the top of my head.

LA_buck (Oct 14, 2005 12:09:31 PM)
Anyone hot coming out of the Youngstown area this and next year?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:09:31 PM)
Derrell Johnson hopefully will make it out in a big way this year. John Humphrey from Liberty is going to Purdue. Rayen has some good young kids. Danny Herron will be big time next year from Harding. Harding has a lot of solid juniors this year. Mooney has Michael Zordich and Dan McCarthy who are both sophomores. Not an overwhelmingly amount of big time talent I must say.

osufan26 (Oct 14, 2005 12:11:42 PM)
Gary...Now that AB and Boren are gone...Where do we turn next? This was supposed to be a banner year from o-linemen in ohio and now we only have one to show for our efforts or lack-there-of...

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:11:42 PM)
Hi OSUfan26...I obviously see Browning now in the mix and I think there is a legitimate shot at Thomas still and I like both of those guys. Don't know where they're headed after that. I would guess OSU would need four guys to bring in this year overall.

osufan26 (Oct 14, 2005 12:14:06 PM)
Gary, where do we stand with Ben Martin next year? I think it should be a priority to go after this guy hard and early..

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:14:07 PM)
Love the kid but I'm afraid he will be swept off his feet at Notre Dame this week. He at least has the Ohio State-Texas game as a reference point. I see it potentially being a two-horse race and I hope OSU doesn't fall asleep on this one. He should be top priority in Ohio, probably the top prospect in the state IMHO. Can't lose this guy to anyone.

texbucknut (Oct 14, 2005 12:16:33 PM)
Gaary, Watching the USC offense is to die for.... can we borrow Beanie for the balance of the season?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:16:33 PM)
I agree textbuck...why can't TGII be Reggie Bush???? Why??? Beanie could be a great complement to TGII next year. Along with all four receivers back. Don't think Santonio will have the big time numbers to leave.

osufan26 (Oct 14, 2005 12:24:02 PM)
i know about all the great Sr. class that Glenville has but what about their Jr's and Soph's..What names should jump out the next few years?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:24:02 PM)
If Ben Martin is number one, Jermale Hines could be number two in the state. Hines has moved to linebacker after playing some safety early on and he's very active. Kyle Jefferson needs to step up more and Gino Sturdivant may be too small for the next level. Eddie Mason is a playmaker but he's too small for certain. Mason is a track star and a very solid defender in the secondary for Glenville. Dawawn Whitner leads the sophomore class. Shelton Lundy, Eric Simmons, Cordale Scott is drawing raves from his coaches as the JV QB, Shannon Freison, and Kevin Johnson is the next Ray Small I'm told. And Travis Freeman is the future at RB for Glenville in the 9th grade class. How do I know these names, because their staff promotes the heck out of their kids and makes sure that these names are out there.

jasongermany (Oct 14, 2005 12:25:01 PM)
Gary, Who would you like to see Ohio State offer that they have not yet offered?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:25:02 PM)
Derrell Johnson but with his injury and his uncertainty academically, that decision will be coming down the line.

BuckeyeDave (Oct 14, 2005 12:26:13 PM)
Gary - Predictions for: Ohio St - MSU. Penn St - UM. U$C - Notre Dame.

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:26:14 PM)
OSU, UM and USC! I think USC just might spank ND!

texbucknut (Oct 14, 2005 12:29:02 PM)
Gary, I live in Southlake, Texas and have the pleasure to watch Todd Dodge run an offense @ SL Carroll, a true spread offense. This guy has to be on someones radar.

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:29:02 PM)
Speaking of spread offenses, much is being made about how JT didn't bring in a guru to run the spread offense. Who needs a guru, it's just another formation to run Tresselball out of. The spread in this instance is just a misnomer! Who needs a guru to run this spread offense!

LA_buck (Oct 14, 2005 12:30:56 PM)
I might be in the minority, but I'm not a huge Troy Smith fan. I mean, he's a great athlete and the players seem to like him, but I think he is too quick to run the ball. IMO, he was a big reason that OSU lost on Saturday. I counted many plays where he missed receivers that were open. Is that coaching? It could be, but the coach can only call the plays and hope his players execute. I think Troy Smith misses a lot of receivers, and that hurts the offense a ton. If Troy Smith hits a couple of reeivers on 2-3 plays, and doesn't throw that interception, that outcome could have been totally different. Just a thought.

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:30:56 PM)
I think TS is challenged as a QB and I don't say that lightly. He's a good athlete, no where near the Vincent Young model, and he just might be a better receiver in the whole scheme of things. Ask yourself who has the better chance of being an NFL quarterback? The answer is so obvious it's ridiculous!

osufan26 (Oct 14, 2005 12:31:09 PM)
What do you see our chances being with oos guys like M. Johnson and Ausberry?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:31:09 PM)
Nil!

osufan26 (Oct 14, 2005 12:32:37 PM)
What have you heard about Fred Lenix, Cumberland and Gibson? Are they gonna be grade casualties?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:32:37 PM)
Not good with the last two. Lenix's recent domestic situation certainly didn't help his cause. It's possible we may ever see any of the three in an OSU uniform but I think Lenix has the best shot of the three right now.

jasongermany (Oct 14, 2005 12:33:24 PM)
Gary, Where do you think Nagy from Hudson will end up and what side of the ball do you see him playing on?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:33:24 PM)
He's a better offensive player IMHO. From last I heard there still is a mutual interest unless something has gone down recently that I'm not aware of.

osufan26 (Oct 14, 2005 12:34:43 PM)
Is Jake Miller a legit osu recruit at Tackle and do you see us getting in on Tilley or has that ship sailed?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:34:43 PM)
Miller is a guy I've seen at OSU games this year and he has the imposing size you're looking for but I don't know enough about him as a football player to comment. He hasn't come across my radar as a legitimate guy of interest to this point. I think the ship sailed on Tilley a long time ago.

LA_buck (Oct 14, 2005 12:35:06 PM)
Gary, You really don't think Santonio will leave?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:35:06 PM)
Not if big money is his main motivation!

LA_buck (Oct 14, 2005 12:35:55 PM)
Chris Wells draws a lot of comparisons to Adrian Peterson. Is he as fast as Peterson? Have you seen him in person?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:35:55 PM)
Peterson is a good comparison. I think Eddie George is really the most accurate comparison I can draw. No question.

texbucknut (Oct 14, 2005 12:37:01 PM)
Gary, You bring up an intersting topic, does Santonio stay or leave? With family priorities and the question mark of this offense going forward, he may bolt. Pro scouts know his skills, I am not sure he stays.

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:37:01 PM)
It could be he's already at a point of diminishing returns in this offense and jumps anyway like Darnell Sanders realized a few yeas ago. So it is possible he leaves still.

Guest (Oct 14, 2005 12:39:23 PM)
Does Quinn Pticock have the ability to go pro?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:39:23 PM)
ptownbuck asked about Pitcock...another year will help him immensely. But he's a good one no question.

LA_buck (Oct 14, 2005 12:40:06 PM)
Is Dawawn Whitner related to Donte?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:40:06 PM)
Yes little brother who looks like him in the face, exactly, and talks like him, exactly, but probably weighs 60 or more pounds than him. He's a defensive tackle prospect.

texbucknut (Oct 14, 2005 12:42:04 PM)
Gary, Does Browning and Thomas feel like are the third or fourth choices after AB? I assume they have been treated as must gets.

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:42:04 PM)
No as far as Browning is concerned. He's proud as can be he got an offer, kind of like how Ryan Palmer would feel if he got an offer. Here's a kid who's bedroom is all OSU and would love to be a Buckeye if it happens any time. I'll know more of how Thomas thinks this weekend.

BuckeyeDave (Oct 14, 2005 12:42:25 PM)
What the latest on Lyons "little" brother?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:42:25 PM)
I don't see it looking good at this time.

BuckeyeDave (Oct 14, 2005 12:43:17 PM)
Gary - what about scores for those three games?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:43:17 PM)
Close in the first two a rout in the last one. Too hard to predict scores. U of M has to win.

osufan26 (Oct 14, 2005 12:44:50 PM)
Are there any Jr. o-linemen making waves this year?

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:44:50 PM)
I really like a lineman #72 at Walsh Jesuit, I can't think of his name right now but he's a really good one.

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:47:59 PM)
Guys and gals...I really want to get a early start on my trip to Versailles so I have to call it a wrap with more calls still in que. Sorry if I seemed to come across a little more negative than I usually am, but I was so flippin disappointed with the egg laid at PSU on offense last week that I'm still beside myself. Let's hope we get enough offense to reward the defense with a victory. Another loss and it could get really ugly really fast. Enjoy a high school game tonight and the Buckeye game tomorrow. I'm off to Versailles. Thanks for everyone who participated in the chat today. Go Bucks!

osufan26 (Oct 14, 2005 12:48:39 PM)
thanks gary..have a good one

GaryHousteau (Oct 14, 2005 12:48:39 PM)
You as well. Smile!


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