Jamie Newberg Chat Archive: Nov. 7

Scout.com national recruiting analyst Jamie Newberg stopped by for a chat today with Bucknuts premium subscribers. We have a transcript posted below.

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:15:12 PM)

Kirk (Nov 7, 2005 1:16:27 PM)
murfinatil asks "What southern studs do you think are seriously considering OSU?"

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:17:49 PM)
I tell you what. LB Colin McCarthy from Clearwater, Florida is a guy that I think could end up at Ohio State. If he had to decide today I think he picks the Buckeyes over Penn State, Miami, GT, USF and others. He is one of the more underrated players in the South. You already have Henton, who to me, is another Troy Smith type with a very good arm.

PigMan (Nov 7, 2005 1:18:00 PM)
Give me a couple out of state guys you think end up signing with OSU.

mansburgbuckeye (Nov 7, 2005 1:18:01 PM)
Hey Jamie, thanks for the chat, who are the oos recruits that are most likely buckeyes?

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:20:41 PM)
I think McCarthy is a guy I would say is an oos right now that is headed their way. As for the others like Wallace, Thomas and Bowman it's too premature.

sameye (Nov 7, 2005 1:20:51 PM)
Jamie, your thoughts on Cumberland (Columbus)and Gibson (Euclid) from an OSU and a grades perspective, and where you see them ending up.

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:23:49 PM)
I like their chances with Gibson especially considering he is an in-state kid and all those OSU linebackers will be in the league. That will entice players like him. You always have to be concerned with the Michigans of the world. Cumberland is a player that could end up at TE. To my knowledge OSU has not offered as of yet.

tj (Nov 7, 2005 1:23:55 PM)
OSU has become a lot more selective with who they recruit. The academic standards have become pretty stringent. As a result they have/will lose out on some excellent players. Do you think this is a good strategy and do you feel it will have an effect (positive or negative) on the program? Thanks.

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:26:51 PM)
I like the strategy. If an Ohio State player is academically ineligible what good does that do your program. The bottom line is that you have to recruit kids and build a program with kids that can go to school and get the job done in the classroom. The NCAA, as you all know, is cracking down on programs that don't have their kids working towards degrees. Nowadays, if you are a player anywhere, you have to work 20% towards your degree each year. So by year two, if you are 35% there, that is no longer good enough and that will hurt the program. Therefore, to answer you question, you have to recruit kids that will work towards their degrees.

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:28:07 PM)
To help explain the academics better, you have to be 20% by year one, 40% by year 2, 60% by year three, etc. If not you become ineligible.

murfinatl (Nov 7, 2005 1:27:04 PM)
Do you think more schools (read Georgia) will start considering grades and character like OSU has started doing. Georgia lost a number of recruits pre-season and now has dismissed Kearney. Richt is a lot like Coach T, but I wonder if he will stop chasing problem kids.

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:30:18 PM)
Yes. Georgia and other schools will have to because there is just too much attrition within these recruiting classes. It's tough bc you want to give some of these borderline kids the benefit of the doubt but you just don't know. What we are now seeing is that many schools will have minimum academic guidelines. If you are a player and not there they will not offer you but they may still recruit you and take a wait and see approach. There is just too much on the line, especially with all the dollars they are paying the coaches these days.

PigMan (Nov 7, 2005 1:30:22 PM)
Any truth to the rumor that Ray Small gave a silent verbal to USC? The Bucknuts guys are still pretty confident he is coming to OSU.

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:32:33 PM)
I would be shocked, even if it were USC, that Small would end up there. I know Ginn was serious about the Trojans when he came out but the bottom line is the distance. I think Small is Ohio State bound and if he wasn't it would be one of the big shockers to me. After saying that, nothing USC does in recruiting is shocking. They are amazing.

buckgrad (Nov 7, 2005 1:32:48 PM)
Jamie, got in late, what position do you see Jake Ballard playing at OSU?

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:34:14 PM)
TE first but he could end up an OL when it is all said and done.

redondo (Nov 7, 2005 1:34:28 PM)
Hi Jamie Are there any adjustments that you think Ohio State should make in its recruiting efforts, from targeting enough guys, to targeting the right guys, to sending the right message to the guys they target, the the mix of out of state versus in-staters, to being more effective closing the deal. How could OSu improve its recruiting program? Thank you.

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:37:37 PM)
redondo - to be honest with you there is not much I would change if I were Jim Tressel. Ohio State is located in a great state when it comes to talent, you won a recent national championship, play in a very good conference, it's a great academic institution, OSU has put many a players in the NFL, etc. etc. So much to offer. You have the recruiting muscle to recruit players just about from anywhere. If there is one thing I would do it would be on the field... open up the offense more. That would be more enticing to the skilled players out there.

buckgrad (Nov 7, 2005 1:37:41 PM)
Jamie, what is your guess on Ausberry? Give us a % on OSU's chances. Thanks

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:40:22 PM)
buckgrad - gonna be tough just bc you are fighting USC. To put a percentage on it would be a guess. I like the fact that he visited early and during the season. He got to digest that great atmosphere at the Horseshoe. I would say 30%. It's a guess. Like Is said, I could be way off but with So Cal after him????

PigMan (Nov 7, 2005 1:40:31 PM)
It's never too early to look ahead. Who will be the top 5 recruits in Ohio for the 2006 season and how many of those do you see ending up at OSU?

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:41:15 PM)
PigMan - I am not that far ahead yet. The one kid I do like is the QB - Chris Smith. But I am not sure where is he looking.

redondo (Nov 7, 2005 1:41:51 PM)
Hi Jamie - Following up on the Henton comments, how polished is he as a QB?

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:43:43 PM)
He's like must kids at this stage... he needs to be groomed for the next level. Much of it is just adjusting to the speed of the college game and learning the offense and reading defenses... just like THEY ALL HAVE TO. But he is well coached at the high school level. I think he has great upside and this is one kid that picked a school in Ohio State where he fits the scheme very well.

buckicrazy (Nov 7, 2005 1:43:52 PM)
Hi Jamie, I would like to see OSU bring in one or two 4 or 5 star DEs in this recruiting class. Who is still out there both in state and OOS that can fill this need?

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:47:18 PM)
Rose would be one guy that I think is headed to Columbus. All those Glenville kids go there if they are wanted. Whitemore and Miller favor Miami while Mathews and Wesley have already visited Ohio State. Those are some names to watch for.

PigMan (Nov 7, 2005 1:47:27 PM)
From things you've heard from recruits over the years, is there a particular school and or coach that has a bad reputation? By bad reputation, I mean a coach who bad mouths other schools, lies to the kids, etc.

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:48:56 PM)
You pretty much here that about everyone. What's true and what's not true? Who knows? But the bottom line is there comes a point of no return, usually at the end of the recruiting campaign, when it gets REAL ugly. I mean REAL ugly. It gets nasty out there.

buckgrad (Nov 7, 2005 1:49:12 PM)
How is the rest of the big ten doing right now with their classes? how would your top 5 look for the big ten? thanks

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:50:45 PM)
1) Ohio State 2) MICH 3) Penn State 4) ILL 5) Purdue - that's how we have them right now. I expect Iowa to make a move for sure.

PigMan (Nov 7, 2005 1:51:10 PM)
If it really gets that ugly at the end of the recruiting season, without naming name's what's the worst thing you can remember hearing about something a coach or school did to get a recruit?

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:52:16 PM)
Pig - I would have to think about that for a moment.

redondo (Nov 7, 2005 1:52:22 PM)
Hi Jamie - Are there any guys out there that you think OSU should look more closely at that they are not, guys that would seriously consider the Buckeyes, have the talent and academic qualifications, etc., but for some reason the Buckeyes haven't warmed to yet? IF so, who might one or two of them be? THank you.

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:54:29 PM)
Put it this way, recruiting is like judging a beauty contest and we all see something different. What you see as a five-star, I could say is a two-star and Tressel could say its a three-star and no offer. To each his own. I am sure there are many kids out there that I would reccomend as offers to many schools.

PigMan (Nov 7, 2005 1:54:50 PM)
OSU appears to have weathered the Clarett storm in terms of recruiting. From talking to the kids are you still hearing any of them having concerns over that fiasco?

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:55:44 PM)
Pig - no. I have not heard any prospect bring his name up to me unless it was regarding how well he played as a true frosh

ripper55 (Nov 7, 2005 1:55:47 PM)
Jamie, Do you think the OSU- Florida pipeline is statrting to dry up?

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 1:57:13 PM)
ripper - no not really. It's not like OSU has to pull five from Florida each year. As long as they get a Holmes one year and Wells the next, etc. The bottom line is that the success of THOSE players will help them in that state.

redondo (Nov 7, 2005 1:57:22 PM)
Hi Jamie - There's been a lot of talk about recruiting resurgence under Coach Weis at ND. Are the Buckeyes head-to-head with ND over any remaining prospects? If so, could you give us a rundown, please? Also, with 20 or so recruits already in the fold, what's your take on ND's class upside - Top 10? Top 5? or even higher? Thank you.

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 2:04:03 PM)
ND is surging in recruiting. I am sure they will go head to head with the Buckeyes but off the top of my head I can't think of any. Right now I would say ND will finish in the top 10 and they are doing well. Just not sure where. Long way to go.

NYCBUCKS (Nov 7, 2005 2:04:15 PM)
What 3-4 players will OSU need to land to wrap up a top five recruiting class this year?

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 2:05:32 PM)
Rose, Small, Gibson and Johnson... that would be icing on the Buckeye recruiting cake.

Jamie Newberg (Nov 7, 2005 2:05:34 PM)
Gotta go. Thanks guys!

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