Housteau Chat Archive - Nov. 18

Gary Housteau stopped by chat today to talk recruiting, high school football, and of course the OSU-Michigan game. We have a transcript posted below.

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:07:40 AM)
Good morning everyone...I'm wishing this was Saturday morning already...how about you? Can't wait!

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:09:27 AM)
Tonight I'm going to Fawcett Stadium to check out the freshman running back from Licking Valley against Steubenville. I think that game is on ONN. They I'll head on over to Ann Arbor so I'll be at the Big House bright and early on Saturday.

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:10:21 AM)
Feel free to fire away with any playoff questions as well as anything on your mind about the game.

mansfieldbuckeye (Nov 18, 2005 11:13:28 AM)
what's your prediction for tomorrows game? Who's going to stand out for the bucks

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:13:28 AM)
Hi mansfieldbuckeye...thanks for the opening question...I'm looking for Pittman to have a Jonathan Wells type of a performance in the Big House. I also think Michigan will officially become Ted Ginn's game. He will take ownership of the Wolverines in his first and probably last trip to the Big House. I can see the Buckeyes winning 23-14.

rbuck (Nov 18, 2005 11:14:11 AM)
Hi Gary, How bout we start off with a bang! What's your prediction on THE GAME?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:14:11 AM)
Hi rbuck...see above...I go with the Buckeyes 23-14. That's two TD's and three Josh Huston Field goals.

mansfieldbuckeye (Nov 18, 2005 11:16:05 AM)
Do you know much about the Bucyrus Wynford v Patrick Henry Game

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:16:05 AM)
No but I did meet their terrific receiver, Krauss - is that his name, in the preseason at the tremendous 26 photo shoot. They've quietly flown under the radar for how good a season they're having and I would love to see my South Range Raiders get a piece of them to see how they would stack up. South Range should win tonight and advance to the State Semis ... I'm guessing Patrick Henry will advance also.

rbuck (Nov 18, 2005 11:18:46 AM)
Do you think Troy is more of a Run first, Pass Second?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:18:46 AM)
rbuck...I still haven't decided how I really feel about TS under center but it doesn't really matter at this point. As long as he makes plays and avoids any Stanley Jackson turnovers...I'll be more than happy. I would love for him to become more of a complete quarterback but I still think he has a couple of shortcomings...but he seems to be getting better. Why he waited until his fourth year junior season to start studying film more is beyond me but he seems to be progressing as a quarterback. His experience should help him grow more next season.

rbuck (Nov 18, 2005 11:21:08 AM)
How soon will C Wells jump ahead of M Wells?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:21:08 AM)
M. Wells was pretty impressive last week no question. C. Wells is a whole different animal however. What a potential stable of running backs OSU could have next year, 1 thru 4, from Pittman to Wells to Haw to Wells. Wow! I think C. Wells will help himself in a big way next spring. He will be a serious option from week one. It should be a great competition. We all need to remember just how good M. Wells was in his junior year in Florida.

Poz79 (Nov 18, 2005 11:24:59 AM)
Gary, have you been in contact with Derrell Johnson lately? Are his grades going to be in order for a Buckeye offer?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:25:00 AM)
Yes Poz79 I have been in contact with Derrell lately and I was with his father on the sideline of the Mooney game for quite a while. He's into photography so we have a lot in common. I'll have a photo gallery of DJ up on Bucknuts later today and there should be a different photo gallery up on J.J. Huddle sometime today or tomorrow of the Mooney Manchester game. Yes grades are a concern but things are improving. Whether they get to where they need to be in time is another question. He would love the option of going to Ohio State or not I can tell you that. Right now everyone is being positive about the prognosis. We shall see. It could be a January or February decision by the OSU staff to offer or not. He will go somewhere big if not OSU. A big time talent.

Guest (Nov 18, 2005 11:28:08 AM)
Gary- Is Joe Morgan OSU qaulity or would an offer to him be more of a way to "get in good" w/ the Jr's at CM that are OSU quality?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:28:08 AM)
Hi Mike68...no I don't believe JT would or needs to make a "get in good" offer to anyone. JT believes a lot in Ohio State selling itself to a recruit and he's the master of the soft sell approach. I like Morgan but he just didn't give me that feel good feeling I like to get in a recruit. I'd like to see him have a much better Massillon game this time around. He's a track kid and a good athlete but I don't know if he's OSU material or not.

rbuck (Nov 18, 2005 11:33:04 AM)
Gary, I know you've always thought of TGII as a Cornerback first. Do you still think he'll earn his paycheck at the next level as a CB?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:33:05 AM)
You are correct rbuck. He's a pickpocket at cornerback, a master of the bait and steal approach to the cornerback position. I still see him as a cornerback at Glenville. He was such a good high school player and left an indelible impression on me as a corner. But he hasn't played the position now in some time so I would be a fool to say he will at the next level right now. I think it might be his best position however. I still would have him as a fulltime corner and play him situationally on offense and of course as a full time returner. But I still think Jamario O'Neal should have played offense as well as defense at Glenville last year. That was a waste of talent not using him at all on offense last year, IMHO. Teddy can play some corner...so ultimately I believe he still will play that position at the next level....somehow, someway.

mansfieldbuckeye (Nov 18, 2005 11:37:11 AM)
What's the glenville game this week shaping up like?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:37:11 AM)
Boy is that loaded question or what manfield??? Well let's see, Glenville routed them last year and they're a better team this year. You tell me? I shall repeat an old an tired mantra...the only team that can beat Glenville this year is Glenville. At least I'm consistent! It's ironic that both tailbacks in this game started out at John Marshall...at least I think both of them did. Frieson is a senior and Edmunds is a junior. They're almost identical types of backs. I give the victory to Glenville...shocking I know!

buckgrad (Nov 18, 2005 11:39:04 AM)
Gary, put to rest any talk of Pittman or Whitner not playing tomorrow so that I can sleep tonight. Thanks

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:39:04 AM)
I checked with a couple of sources last night and both will be playing. Maybe there is a lot of damage control out there by OSU since word got out about Whitner specifically but people I know close to the program have told me that Whitner will play. Pittman also.

Guest (Nov 18, 2005 11:41:54 AM)
Hi Gary, asked Steve about A.Spitler yesterday. What's your take on him next year. Redshirt this year?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:41:54 AM)
Hi spout...I would say Spitler would have an uphill battle for PT next year. I see him as a carbon copy of a Chad Hoobler who has two years remaining after this. I think next year that Freeman, D'Andrea, Kerr, Laurinaitis and maybe Terry or Homan will be the main cast of characters. Hoobler is right there as well. That's a fairly deep corps right there. I think Spitler needs to be patient and his chance will come.

buckgrad (Nov 18, 2005 11:45:18 AM)
Gary, I hope you did a little shmoozing at the Ginn party, the pictures were great. Any "wink wink" comments you can throw our way from the party, maybe a Wallace, Small and Rose announcement at the All American game?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:45:18 AM)
Thanks Buckgrad for the kudos on the photos....Rose will announce for OSU at the A.A. game. The time frame is not certain for Small or Browning at this time. Both will be Buckeyes. I think Wallace will be heavily influenced by the Glenville contingent at the A.A. game. As far as I know he intends to announce at the game as well. I will be in San Antonio on either Tuesday or Wednesday of that week, Steve hasn't finalized my itinerary yet, so I will be well connected to the goings-on down there to say the least. Smile! Nothing new on Freddie Lenix...still trying to get qualified.

boulderbuck1 (Nov 18, 2005 11:51:43 AM)
who should we complain about amongst ourselves for making the academic standards so much tougher this year? There seems like a lot of confusion about who we should blame for it when we need to flame, thanks

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:51:43 AM)
If you find out boulderbuck let me know to who and where because I want to get in line. I'm all for the land grant approach or whatever Steve was talking about. Football players aren't rocket scientists nor are intended to become one for the most part. Who's kidding whom? Losing out on guys like Lenix and even Gibson, who meet the Clearinghouse standards is just not fair to them. I can't point you to any specific direction sorry. Unfortunately it is what it is. As far as Jim Tressel is concerned it's all about graduation rates so indirectly it is important to his success in that aspect that good student/athletes come to play for him at Ohio State.

mackv (Nov 18, 2005 11:55:41 AM)
I see they will be replaying Glenville game Sat night on OSS. That will be a good opp for people to see a entire game and not just highlights. Who should i watch of the under classmen?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:55:41 AM)
Hi mackv...number 18 is Jamale Hines. He plays LB/S on defense. He's another kid, IMHO, that they should use on offense. He's a stud. Kyle Jefferson, #3, has a ton of unfulfilled potential and could be a top player next year. He's a great 400 meter man and has really good size. Gino Sturdivant, #7, is a poor man's Freddie Lenix - even wears his number. All good players. There's a few really good sophomores that don't even play because they're so top heavy with talent. If there is a better receiving corps anywhere than Small, Daven Jones and Bryant Milligan then I would like to see them.

rbuck (Nov 18, 2005 11:58:06 AM)
Who do you like in the St. X / Wayne game?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:58:06 AM)
I like Wayne's offense under Alex Early but X seems to have a stifling defense. X's offense doesn't do a whole lot for me at all but their defense wins games. I guess everyone will pick X so I will go with Wayne in the upset. I will say that X has a really great sophomore class behind Schneider and Ashley, et al.

Guest (Nov 18, 2005 11:59:15 AM)
How can A.J. be left out of the Nagursky?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 11:59:15 AM)
Someone blatantly didn't do their homework spout. There's no other explanation.

ToledoBucknutty (Nov 18, 2005 12:01:17 PM)
Morning Gary! So are we gonna kick that a#$ tomorrow or what??

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:01:17 PM)
You got it toledobucknutty. I went to school in Adrian and I was always a misfit there. I could smell Ann Arbor from Adrian! I hope the better team wins tomorrow. And we all know the better team is Ohio State.

mackv (Nov 18, 2005 12:05:22 PM)
Conley stated in his chat that the only linebacker OSU had a chance with on the list is McCarthy from Florida. That suprised me.

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:05:22 PM)
I liked McCarthy when I eyeballed him on his visit earlier in the year. I hate to rehash but Gibson would be a lock if it weren't for admissions. I don't even think he made an unofficial to Ohio Stadium so that in itself says a lot about his academic standing at this time. Let's hope there's an 11th hour change in his situation for the better. He's one Ohio talent that you would hate to see, like Manningham - a personal favorite of mine, on the other side of the ball against Ohio State. As much as I'm going to hate to see him in those colors tomorrow, I can't wait to say hello MM tomorrow. Great kid although a bit misguided obviously...smile!

Poz79 (Nov 18, 2005 12:09:31 PM)
Gary, outside Cardinal Mooney, do you think any other Mahoning Valley teams make it past this weekend?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:09:31 PM)
Hi Poz79...I think Liberty has a really good chance to beat a good Buchtel team. Liberty is so underrated that even I haven't seen them play this year and they're in my own back yard. They're really good and they beat Lake Catholic...enough said. I think David Lewis of Buchtel, #26, is one of the most underrated players out there. Liberty by the way has John Humphrey who is a Purdue commit from the early summer. He can kick the crap out of the ball as well. I would personally love to see South Range make it also because I have a friend who's son is on the team there. They may have their best team ever but can't see to get beyond the regional finals. This could be their year. They can run and throw. Canfield is also pretty good and I think they can beat Louisville. I think the MAC competition is better than the NBC level overall so that bodes well for Canfeild who has a ridiculous defense and a great player in Angelo Babbaro. Louisville has the Kuhn kid who is outstanding as well.

Guest (Nov 18, 2005 12:12:08 PM)
Gary- Besides Hines, what other Jr's do at G'Ville do you see the Bucks going after

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:12:08 PM)
Potentially Jefferson I would say for Mike68's question. He has great skill and has been improving slowly this season. He has a lot of work to do. Depending on who else transfers in at this time, smile, that could potentially be it for next year. Hines is a top priority. He's a top five talent in Ohio next year in my book. Martin is one, Hines could be number 2 at this time.

buckgrad (Nov 18, 2005 12:15:19 PM)
Anyone else thankful that the Gameday crew isnt going to Ann Arbor tomorrow? The 3 of them are great but Desmond and then the cuts to Holtz and May simply suck. Those other 3 add nothing to Sat. mornings.

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:15:19 PM)
I still have nightmares of Desmond and Nick Lachey singing the Michigan fight song from atop Ohio Stadium. I was right there at the set of game day and I looked up across the way to see two people on top of Ohio Stadium singing that horrible song. I'm sure I'll hear more of it than I want to tomorrow as well. It's almost as annoying as Penn State's Lion's roar over the loudspeaker. I usually don't get to see game day on TV anyway because I'm somewhere in the tailgate lots at that time or inside Ohio Stadium.

boulderbuck1 (Nov 18, 2005 12:18:12 PM)
Gary, sorry if this has already been asked, but is Gibson gone for good? also, some one on the free board said Mathews may commit to tOSU next week, any truth?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:18:12 PM)
I think Gibson will hold out for as long as possible. I'm sure OSU will politely string him along as long as they can as well boulderbuck...I don't think he's completely gone or there wouldn't be any dialogue. In a perfect world he would probably be an OSU recruit already. Time will tell. I haven't heard anything on the Mathews situation so I can not comment. Ohio State needs some recruiting momentum, at least publicly, so that would be a good start obviously.

DantheMan (Nov 18, 2005 12:21:14 PM)
This may be a philosophical question: but if Jake Long plays, and you are Mike Kudla or Bobby Carpenter, Marcus Green, etc. do you intentionally step on his foot during the course of a play and put him out so you can face Reuben Riley? You remember what Leo Durocher said: plus I REALLY HATE those guys.

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:21:14 PM)
Hi DantheMan...anything goes this week. I'm sure OSU will not intentionally do anything of the sort but if it would happen by accident...what can you do. Even Sam Webb thinks there would be a drop off if Riley had to play tackle so that will bode well for OSU. But turnabout is fair play. I'm sure Michigan has been hearing about Donte Whitner's situation...so it works both ways.

mackv (Nov 18, 2005 12:25:54 PM)
Its funny when you look back at some recruiting info and see players like Gonzo and Lyons rated as very high safety and corner prospects. I think Gonzo would be a lock down corner.

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:25:54 PM)
I always though Gonzo would be a great corner too because his closing speed on the ball was incredible. He could be beat and then all of the sudden come up with an interception. I never saw Lyons on defense in high school so I can't really comment on him specifically. But yes I initially thought Gonzo would be a defender I have to admit (the same with TGII on defense).

boulderbuck1 (Nov 18, 2005 12:28:29 PM)
is that the staffs M.O Gary, slower middle backer, with fast outside backers?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:28:29 PM)
I wouldn't call D'Andrea slow and that's who they originally recruited to play there. I wouldn't call Hoobler or Spitler slow either. Schlegel is obviously no burner but he can play tackle to tackle very well and besides he transferred in. It's all about speed on defense for the Buckeyes.

mackv (Nov 18, 2005 12:32:35 PM)
The players i feel we get T Gibson somehow, Small, Rose, Browning, D Johnson, A Nelson late offer. OOS AJ Wallace, Ginn Sr locks him up for us, McCarthy, Dekle, Larimore and two more that we havent heard about yet. Your list?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:32:35 PM)
I don't see Nelson getting an offer although he's having a really good season. He's much improved this year over last year. I would consider revisiting Nate Davis again. You're a little bit more optimistic than I am but if OSU gets Small, Rose, Browning and Wallace for starters...then they'll be in good shape. McCarthy looks promising. Larimore is right there also. The rest I don't know enough about to call. I don't feel as good about Gibson as you do although I really like the kid personally and hope things work out for him.

Guest (Nov 18, 2005 12:33:52 PM)
Hi Gary, I have a good feeling about tomorrow. Our offense seems to be hitting their stride and I think the only thing that beats us is turnovers. And for gosh sakes, don't get behind by more than 10 early.

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:33:52 PM)
I agree beatttun...don't get down big early and don't turn the ball over early. I'm thinking all positive when the head hits the pillow tonight...if it hits the pillow!

Guest (Nov 18, 2005 12:36:32 PM)
Gary, at this point, who do you think Lyons signs with in February? Has he soured on Ohio Stae?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:36:32 PM)
I wouldn't say he's soured hondo...it just might be that he sees himself fitting in better someplace else. But in the end, if he's not overwhelmed enough with West Virginia, then he could be a future teammate with his brother once again. Family ties might win out in the end. I haven't talked to Wes in about two weeks now but I don't much has changed with them playing for a WPIAL AAAA championship. I live right near the OH-PA border and I still don't understand the WPIAL...smile!

Guest (Nov 18, 2005 12:38:45 PM)
I am concerned about our recruiting. Seems more than a bit weak. What are your thoughts ?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:38:45 PM)
Hi bamabucknut... I'm certain he has a plan with respect to recruiting and he's executing it. It's still November and signing day isn't until the first of February if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure things will begin to heat up come December and into January. I'm sure they have a really good idea of who they still have a real good shot with.

buckgrad (Nov 18, 2005 12:41:14 PM)
Gary, I wonder if a guy like Chris Wells goes out there and tries to recruit? It would make sense, why wouldnt he push for a guy like Aaron Brown, in the end it will only help him?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:41:14 PM)
I know Chris fairly well and he's a quiet guy and he keeps to himself for the most part. I would have to say he doesn't really recruit unless he would see someone at a game like last week. I haven't spoken with him this week so I don't know if he talked to anybody last week while he was at the game. But I'll chat with him soon to see how his situation is up to this point and I'm sure I'll spend some time with him in San Antonio.

mackv (Nov 18, 2005 12:46:24 PM)
When watching video clips on recruits i realize they are supposed to be highlights but there are some guys that just jump off the screen. This year i love Coleman & Schwartz and obviously Wells. How much stock should i put into these videos?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:46:24 PM)
I put most of my stock in seeing kids play in person. I've been watching high school football games for so many years now, every possible Thursday, Friday and Saturday for a long time and from my perspective, it's really easy to pick out the good ones. No matter what, the good ones always make plays when you go to their games...always! They stand out...always! I don't watch as much video because I don't have the time to commit to it so I can't comment on the validity of watching highlights as a source of seeing talent. Wells is the real deal, I've seen that. Coleman and Schwartz look really good on video...that's about all I can say with them. I'm usually not too far off in my evaluation if I've seen a kid play in person on more than one occasion.

buckgrad (Nov 18, 2005 12:48:42 PM)
Gary, another thing I wanted to ask you and Steve (didnt get a chance yesterday though) does JZ seem a little heavy? Everyone I watch the games with agrees, JZ looks about 15lbs heavier.

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:48:42 PM)
Maybe he could lose a few pounds to help him avoid a sack or two. If I were JZ at this time I would continue to prepare as a starter so he will be ready if TS goes down and at the same I would try to stay sharp for an eventual chance at a combine workout. I would think he would have a chance to become a professional, probably a better chance than TS.

redondo (Nov 18, 2005 12:52:34 PM)
Hi Gary - I heard Coach T say after the game to the ABC regional audience last week that OSU needs to pass better. I see the dismissal over the last few weeks for less than stellar passing as well, the qulaity of the opponent is thus and such and OSU didn't really need to pass or pass that well. I guess I look at it differently. I think if you can't pass effectively against the opponents of the last few weeks, with NW being the most recent example, what makes anyone think that against a better opponent (Michigan) things are automatically going to be better? Your thoughts?

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:52:34 PM)
I've always been an advocate of being able to do both well and make the defense adapt to your strengths or being able to exploit the weakness of the defense. I think you need to pass from week one on a consistent basis to get better at it so you can use it when needed. Sure you need to run the ball, no question, but I can never understand why any team would handicap themselves in one are over another. You can never be too sharp in the passing game and it's something you need to hone every week in my opinion, regardless of the quality of the opponent. I'm with you redondo.

boulderbuck1 (Nov 18, 2005 12:53:06 PM)
score>

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:53:07 PM)
I've said it earlier 23-14 OSU.

mackv (Nov 18, 2005 12:55:01 PM)
If Whitner was actually hurt that would scare me. Hes like a fourth linebacker. Salley gets that rep as a heat seaking missle but Whitner is who i see laying the wood.

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:55:01 PM)
Whitner is an All-American in my book. Sure one more season would only help his draft status, but the hardship rule was made with someone like Whitner in mind. Whitner is a really good football player and really solid young man. OSU would definitely miss him if he were unable to go because he's so well prepared when he goes into a game. He knows the opponent as well as they know themself.

mackv (Nov 18, 2005 12:56:57 PM)
Malcom Jenkins is going to have a big game, just a feeling. His aggresive style vs _ichigans we think our _ _ _t dont stink attitude. We may see some fireworks.

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 12:56:57 PM)
Jenkins is a good one no question. I'd like to see him and MM go at it on the field. What a challenge it would be for Jenkins if he were assigned to Manningham. Two true freshman going at it...wow! That's exciting stuff!

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 1:00:06 PM)
That's it for me today. Sleep well my Buckeye bretheren if you can. It's here in about 24 hours from now. Thanks for chatting with me today and thanks for taking to read thru the chat at a later time. I feel much better about OSU's chances than I did two years ago! Enjoy the game wherever you're watching it! Go Bucks!

boulderbuck1 (Nov 18, 2005 1:00:38 PM)
thanks gary

GaryHousteau (Nov 18, 2005 1:00:38 PM)
Thank you! Go Bucks!


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