Steve, I like the Bucks by a field goal this weekend over the Spartans how do you see it?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:09:10 PM)
Keato, how do?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:09:13 PM)
I'd say ...
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:09:20 PM)
a one-point win would suffice.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:09:32 PM)
MSU looked like they are supposed to on Wed. night against Indiana.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:10:08 PM)
Of course that was not the same IU Ohio state played. They were without DJ White, who had 7 rebs and 6 points against OSU. You take him out of there and they are a different team.
Helwagen's Son (Jan 12, 2006 3:12:40 PM)
Hey Steve. Are you enjoying this weather or what?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:13:02 PM)
My son is 6 and is barely computer literate unless it involves trains ...
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:13:22 PM)
but yes, we are enjoying the weather, high 50s here today, other than one blast in mid-Dec., this winter has been a snap ...
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:13:43 PM)
and it's usually pretty much over here in Cols. by Feb. 20 or so, so we've only got about 5-6 more weeks.
Guest (Jan 12, 2006 3:13:46 PM)
What do you forsee Donte Whitner announcing at his press conference tomorrow?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:13:55 PM)
kleintime asks about Donte Whitner ...
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:14:24 PM)
All indications are he is gone. Maybe he goes Mike Doss on us and sees that safeties truly are a dime a dozen (even the special ones like himself) and he comes back.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:14:48 PM)
He could be a Doss-like leader for a young defense that will play in some really big-time games next year.
TheKaiser21 (Jan 12, 2006 3:14:53 PM)
Is there any new info to the rumor Gibson's trip this weekend may be cancelled?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:15:24 PM)
It is up in the air. They seem to be waiting on somebody's final approval. He is not due in until after a basketball game on Sat. So we'll have to wait and see.
Docbuc (Jan 12, 2006 3:15:31 PM)
Duane, is the staff still trying to get ahold of McCarthy? To me it sounds very bad if he is taking UMiami recruiting site calls but not ours.
Docbuc (Jan 12, 2006 3:15:36 PM)
Sorry I meant Steve...
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:16:08 PM)
No problem. Yes, we have called McCarthy every day this week. Sounds like he is leaning slightly toward Miami right now. Maybe OSU can make one last push.
keato (Jan 12, 2006 3:16:14 PM)
Steve, now that the recruiting season is slowing down what kids do you think we get and where do you see this recruiting class ranked when its all said and done?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:18:13 PM)
They still seem to be in good shape on Browning, Small, Aram Olson, maybe Andy Miller (seems to be between OSU and Pitt), Gibson (if he passes muster) and maybe 1-2 of these DBs (Gant, Fields, whoever). ...
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:18:58 PM)
As far as the ranking, I think anywhere between 8th and 12th in the end nationally. Another good class. Johnson was a big commit. I think he's like 53rd overall nationally. Gibson would be as well. That would give them 5 in the top 100 to go with Wells, Smith and Homan.
TheKaiser21 (Jan 12, 2006 3:19:09 PM)
Mystery DB why a mystery? So you have something in common
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:19:50 PM)
I'm not sure who that is. Maybe it's Brandon Stephens from Strongsville. Hearing they may be sniffing around there some. Everybody else's name is pretty much out there.
buckgrad (Jan 12, 2006 3:19:53 PM)
Steve, just viewed the Henton videos, is he a Troy Smith clone or what??? The spin move and everything, kid looks impressive. Whats your take on him? Thanks
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:21:31 PM)
That was some great video. The team they were playing, LaGrange, was like 11-1 or something and it was a state semifinal so you think that was good competition, probably on the Division II or III level here in Ohio. Henton is a bigger version of Troy Smith, roughly the same speed. He had the best arm strength of anybody I saw at the camp last year (including all of the big Ohio names). He has the complete package. They need to get him in the fold this fall and coach him up. He will be in the mix with Boeckman and Schoenhoft for 2007.
Dood (Jan 12, 2006 3:21:39 PM)
What is the latest on Derrell Johnson? I have heard some question his heart and toughness. Your thoughts?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:23:23 PM)
No, don't question his heart and toughness. No no no. Everything I've seen on him is he is a difference maker. Now he played mostly QB this year and he projects at WR, likely, so it may take a year or 2 to make that full transition. Plus, until his academics are ironed out, it's kind of a moot point. As I wrote in the Quick Read on Monday, he's a "draft-and-follow" kid (that's a pro baseball term). You hope if you sign him you can keep him "in the fold" until you can get him on campus at some point, whatever route that may take.
robobuck (Jan 12, 2006 3:23:30 PM)
Hi Steve. After the Fiesta Bowl I never saw Weis come out to shake JT hand at mid field. Do you know if there was any meeting or did Weis run home to mommy after the but woopin.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:24:28 PM)
There was chaos on the field. I never saw any video of it. I'm sure they tried to meet as a courtesy. Ohio State even rushed the field with 10 seconds left when ND could have run another play. Maybe they saw Charlie already coming out and just followed his lead, I don't know.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:24:42 PM)
Another great postgame scene on the field at Sun Devil Stadium, though.
Helwagen's Son (Jan 12, 2006 3:24:53 PM)
I would like to know who you think take the remaining spots in this class. Think it's safe to say Small, and Browning are locks, but I'm a little concerned right now about a lack of a true CB and a OLB playmaker like Gibson. What are your thoughts on the next few weeks.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:26:05 PM)
Coleman would be a decent CB, I think, and Chekwa is kind of hedge to their bets there as well. Mark Johnson could be an OLB, I suppose. But Gibson is a game changer in my opinion. He's kind of like a Na'il Diggs. Early in his career, he was strictly a pass rusher. After 3 years working with Pug, he was a complete player and now he's a pretty good pro.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:27:01 PM)
I mentioned above my favorites for the last few spots -- Small, Browning, Andy Miller (50-50 with Pitt), Aram Olson at FB and 1-2 DBs (Gant or Fields or somebody else who remains a mystery ... ha ha).
TheKaiser21 (Jan 12, 2006 3:27:11 PM)
Would Tressel entertain bringing in Juco transfer Grant, being he didn't get the grade needed to enroll early with Florida, and he has expressed some Interest for OSU being he is qualified to enroll at OSU.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:28:03 PM)
I'm sure they are investigating that. Tressel has not taken many JUCOs. But in a situation like this with so many starters leaving on defense, this could be a godsend. I'm assuming Grant is a DB (I think that's what I read).
calibuck (Jan 12, 2006 3:28:09 PM)
steve...are there any targets for next year for an out of state QB
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:29:32 PM)
One name I hear is Andrew Nowels from Clearwater Central Catholic, McCarthy's school I believe. I don't know if he is a prospect or a suspect. But he is one name I hear. Belton and Chris Smith will get looks in-state. They were both at one or more OSU games this fall.
buckgrad (Jan 12, 2006 3:29:42 PM)
whats your gut feeling on Miller, I hear he decides tomorrow, is a buck?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:31:38 PM)
Announcing tomorrow at 6 at his school's basketball game. I think the chance to play TE at Ohio State (probably in the Tyree role) is intriguing. He has been silent running this week as he tries to decide. Pitt got the last visit. You hear rumors for both. We'll see. If I guess and I'm wrong, everybody will blow me a bunch of crap for misleading them (ha ha). Who cares, though. I'll say Ohio State. The programs are on 2 entirely different levels, without being arrogant about it.
buckmark (Jan 12, 2006 3:31:57 PM)
Steve, Why do you think so many pundits are putting the Buckeyes so far up in the early prognostications given the losses we are taking on defense? Vegas has us installed as the favorites?!
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:33:05 PM)
They don't look at those losses on defense. They look at that show on offense and see 3 linemen, Troy Smith, Ted Ginn, Antonio Pittman and Anthony Gonzalez -- not to mention Chris Wells on the way. They just assume OSU will reload, as it has done on defense fairly consistently since 1996, and just keep rolling. ...
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:33:23 PM)
Playing at Texas without Vince Young could be the one that sends this team on its way next year.
Guest (Jan 12, 2006 3:33:27 PM)
Steve, any chance we move Jamario back to corner next year since we seem to have more depth at safety?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:33:36 PM)
cantonjohn asks about O'Neal at corner ...
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:34:12 PM)
My feeling is he will crosstrain at corner (all the DBs will get reps at different spots in the spring), but they already tried him there once and decided he should be at safety instead.
wwt (Jan 12, 2006 3:34:28 PM)
Everybody is afraid of OSU's high expectations for next year since they lose so many on D. I say everybody loses people and unless you look at the other top schools, it is difficult to dismiss the Bucks just because they lose more than normal. USC loses their whole backfield, Texas without Young is not Texas, etc. Thoughts?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:35:28 PM)
Agreed, it is so premature to even really think about all of that. Guys can get hurt in the spring, guys could flunk out, etc. On paper, I just think people like what they saw from Ohio State against Michigan and ND. Think about that: They ended the year with wins over UM and ND. Wow.
Helwagen's Son (Jan 12, 2006 3:35:36 PM)
Steve, do you see any of our current verbals not making it academically? I know some are very close and some are still not yet qualified. Also, is someone going to sell Holbrook on Ebay again?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:35:48 PM)
Easy on our president, now (ha ha) ...
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:36:24 PM)
The screening process is so diligent that I have to assume if kids make visits and offer commitments, they will be fine to qualify.
wwt (Jan 12, 2006 3:36:44 PM)
I don't see OSU ever being a No.1 in recruiting again just because JT seems to like quality over quantity (and I agree). He seems to be spreading out the classes so we never need 25. I like the way he is limiting the need so he can go after more top guys instead of having to fill out a class to fill scholarships. Do you agree?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:37:45 PM)
Well, they are also retaining more players from year to year. You only hear about 1-2 caualties a year now. Coop had classes of 20-25 every year because 5-6 guys a year didn't pan out or they'd transfer. Retention is huge.
keato (Jan 12, 2006 3:37:54 PM)
Steve, from watching the BB bucks i feel they have the goods to make a good run tournament time what are your thoughts?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:39:08 PM)
I agree, I think this team has a strong defensive backcourt with Butler, Foster, Mayes and Sullinger. They get after people. Poor Purdue was having simple passes to the wing picked off and turned into layups at the other end. That first 6 minutes of the second half last night was brutal. ...
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:40:57 PM)
If they keep getting cheap points out of their defense, stroke the three like they have AND continue to get Dials point-blank looks against inferior competition, they'll be fine.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:42:13 PM)
I think they can be a top three seed in the Big Ten (with Wisconsin and Illinois) and maybe top four seed in a regional in the NCAA. If they go 10-6 Big Ten, that's 21-6 overall. That's pretty good. Maybe 23-7 after the BTT.
wwt (Jan 12, 2006 3:42:25 PM)
Weis has a potty mouth. I think that will come to bit him at ND as soon as he loses a few games. I can't understand why coaches cover their mouths to hide coversations (plays) and then let the cuss words roll for everyone to read lips.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:43:19 PM)
Because nobody is trying to steal plays off their curse words. One of the players on the ND team reported back to his high school folks (take a guess which one) that every other word out of the man's mouth begins with an F. ...
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:43:44 PM)
Let's face it, they used to be special. They used to be the one. They even honored poor Gerry Faust's contract to the letter.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:44:19 PM)
But when they ripped up Ty's deal that was where they sold their soul. And then to reward this guy 8 games in with $3 mill a year ... You tell me where their priorities lie now.
TheKaiser21 (Jan 12, 2006 3:44:47 PM)
Isn't Coleman That true CB. THink you or Duane might have stated he could be the most underrated recruit maybe in the country.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:45:14 PM)
Yes, Coleman could factor at CB next fall, if he comes in like Jenkins and flashes some stuff right away. They won't be ruling anybody out, that is for sure.
buckgrad (Jan 12, 2006 3:45:20 PM)
Steve, do you think its good for the 4 football players to be running track? Do you think it helps their football skills or sets them back?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:46:40 PM)
As Tressel would say: "Well, I don't know about that, but let me say this -- Ted Ginn was one of the most amazing football players on the planet when he was a track athlete, but when that was pulled away from him this past year he was pretty ordinary until midseason." I think it can only help them -- provided they have all of their academic work, etc. taken care of. I believe Ginn was an academic All-Big Ten pick.
robobuck (Jan 12, 2006 3:46:55 PM)
Any word on Small? Has he inproved his grades or retaken his ACT? I heard he will wait for signing day to make a decision. Is this because he may be waiting on tOSU to approve is enrollment?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:47:37 PM)
I have called Small every day for a week. He is still supposed to visit UNC, I believe, this weekend. I have nothing to update on his academics. Some believe there are some questions there, so stay tuned.
Bigworm (Jan 12, 2006 3:47:45 PM)
Steve, I was sad to hear about the Williams and Worthington injuries, have your heard anything about how they are coming along?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:48:17 PM)
No, I imagine if they needed surgery they had it by now. I know Worthington was on crutches in AZ. Sad to see. I doubt you see much of them in spring ball.
buckicrazy (Jan 12, 2006 3:48:25 PM)
With Frost getting out of Tressels dog house at the end of the season do you think he will have a 'breakout' year next year? He seems to have the size and hands.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:48:55 PM)
Well, with Nicol hopefully coming back, he will have competition. He played almost by default at the end with Hamby out. The better guy who can do more things will play.
Libuck (Jan 12, 2006 3:49:00 PM)
I just saw the clips of henton. When do you think he will start at tOSU, will it be after schoenhoft leaves?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:49:45 PM)
Could be 2007 if he comes in and gets it down. Boeckman is still my first choice on experience alone. Schoenhoft may have a higher ceiling, though. Henton is also special in his own right. QB is not a position of worry, in my opinion, going forward.
TheKaiser21 (Jan 12, 2006 3:49:52 PM)
Is olson an indication, that the Offense may entertain the thought of a more conventional, I'formation play action pass scheme, with a bigger back wells, and a more conventional QB like rob stepping in after Smith graduates?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:52:14 PM)
Yes, great observation. The FB could be a key pass protector for Schoenhoft or Boeckman and a lead blocker for Pittman and Wells, if needed. They need that ability. Part of the reason they moved away from the I is they have not had a fullback to handle that load.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:52:17 PM)
TheKaiser21 (Jan 12, 2006 3:53:15 PM)
Do you think some of us are uneasy about being ranked high, because our offense maybe the dominant squad this year and may have to carry us for a change. At least in the early part of the schedule until the defense gets some experience. IT's not like we don't have talent filling those spots. In the past in reality, the O has been far behind our defense.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:54:37 PM)
The thing that causes me to pause is inexperience on defense. That usually is worth a loss or 2 when the game comes down to the end. Plus, they did not carry momentum offensively from the end of 04 to the start of 05. They need to do that or they will be in a world of hurt right off the bat. That schedule is front loaded again with Texas, PSU and Iowa (with Ferentz staying put) all in the first 5 games.
labsbeabmm (Jan 12, 2006 3:54:45 PM)
What's the likelihood of Haw and/or Lyons playing defense next year? Can they contribute?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:56:46 PM)
Oh, I don't know. Who on this team has moved offense to defense or vice versa and really contributed on this team? Schafer? Brandon Smith? Andre Amos (though just a frosh)? Arden? Coleman back and forth between TE and OL? I guess each case is different, but it just seems like guys move to provide a band-aid on the depth and they start out at the back of the line at their new position and never move up to the starting lineup. Ginn may be the one exception to this rule.
MAY MAY (Jan 12, 2006 3:57:08 PM)
something that really hurts me is the thought of freddie lennix not being apart of this program coulda played safety or linbacker and made an impact your thoughts
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:57:30 PM)
Yep, that one hurts. He could have impacted the bottom line. He is a nice football player. Too bad it didn't work out.
1xbuck (Jan 12, 2006 3:57:36 PM)
Assuming it may be Teddy Junior's. last year in '06, do you feel there may be a possibility of Teddy doing a Chris Gamble next season?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:58:31 PM)
Maybe if they need the help on defense. Without Holmes on offense and punt and kick returns, Ginn will be counted already to power the offense and special teams. You do not want to kill the golden goose. It's like when they had Galloway. He was the only special guy they had in there for a year or 2 and when he went down they were sunk.
buckgrad (Jan 12, 2006 3:58:40 PM)
so what is your guess for the starting defensive backfield for game 1, who is your nickel back? Thanks
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 3:59:06 PM)
Three of them are pretty easy -- Jenkins at corner and Mitchell and O'Neal at the safeties. The rest are pretty hard.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:00:21 PM)
At corner, it will be whoever emerges between Mike Roberts, Sirjo Welch, Brandon Underwood, Shaun Lane, Andre Amos, Chekwa and Coleman. If Underwood stays healthy, I kind of like him. Welch is a football player, but he can't stay on the straight and narrow, it seems. They want dependable guys on the corners.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:00:55 PM)
At the nickel, could be one of those guys or they like using an extra safety. That would be Lukens or Patterson, Russell, Washington or Schwartz.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:01:48 PM)
As you can see, they have a ton of depth but precious few guys who have ever actually played. The cream will rise to the top in the spring. I like Nick patterson, heady guy, maybe he starts at safety or nickel. They'll be going 5 DBs again 50 percent of the time, you know that from the start.
Guest (Jan 12, 2006 4:01:55 PM)
After signing day when recruiting turns to 2007, where do you see the needs to reload at. More on offense or defense or equally split?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:02:12 PM)
copleybuck asks about position needs for 2007 ...
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:04:23 PM)
There will be 14 seniors, so it will start out as a small class and probably grow toward 16-19 as guys leave, etc. Probably two on the OL (Duane says they'll need to look OOS), probably need one QB, one RB, two WRs, two DBs, three DL, three LBs. That's 14. Ohio is loaded with great DBs -- about 6-8 guys who all do about the same thing.
yo (Jan 12, 2006 4:04:45 PM)
You keep mentioning fields as a possible recruit. He has not visited and there does not seem to be any interest on both sides. Why do you feel there is a possibility with this kid?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:06:17 PM)
There is a chance, actually, that Fields may visit OSU this weekend. He had been listing a PSU visit, but there was a chance it could be OSU instead. I agree, they need to get him on campus first. He'd be quite a steal if they could pull it off.
buckeyebilly (Jan 12, 2006 4:06:23 PM)
What are the chances that Youboty and or Whinter return to school, I heard earlyer in the week that Whinter was not yet sold on the NFL.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:07:53 PM)
Youboty told The Dispatch he is gone. Sent them a written statement that they published earlier this week. Everybody around Whitner tells us he's gone. Could be a smokescreen to build him up as the hero/team leader like Doss when he comes back. Donte is a very smart kid. That's why I think there is some small hope. He has to realize that there is never a seller's market on safeties. Teams go with just about every other position first.
TheKaiser21 (Jan 12, 2006 4:08:13 PM)
They need to learn to close out halfs though? Indiana, St Joe's, Seems like they get a big lead and relax down the stretch.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:08:37 PM)
Agreed, that's where Ohio State's depth shows terribly. Indiana cut the lead from 17 to 8 at half last Sat. That's where the game was lost.
buckicrazy (Jan 12, 2006 4:08:42 PM)
Is Ivan Harris ever going to rebound? I saw him play some defense but not as much as he needs to.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:09:14 PM)
He had a jam on the fast break last night, too. He just needs to keep playing. He can be a wild card for this team if he plays like he is capable.
DantheMan (Jan 12, 2006 4:09:22 PM)
With Maroney and Calhoun both gone; and if M. Hart is injured a lot again next year, I think the Buckeyes will have the two best RB's in the Big Ten in the same backfield: of course, I mean Haw and Shaun Lane. :) :)
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:09:32 PM)
Ha ha. Three if you count Mo Wells.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:10:35 PM)
Good observation. Iowa has Young. NW has Sutton. Minnesota will go with Russell, of course. But Pittman and Chris Wells has the makings of quite a tandem. They can seriously play Tressel ball, pound it, control the clock, keep defense off the field, etc. Could be 2002 all over again.
Guest (Jan 12, 2006 4:10:40 PM)
With the success of the football program, how soon does tOSU lose another coach to another head coaching position?
buckeyebilly (Jan 12, 2006 4:10:53 PM)
If Gibson where to commit and have his grades in order is there a chance he could play this fall, and what other if any new LB might have a chance to play
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:11:43 PM)
My feeling is the veterans will get the first call -- Freeman, maybe Laurinaitis, Hoobler or D'Andrea inside. But as I alluded with Diggs, Gibson could be a pass rush specialist as his ticket on to the field, then as he grows and matures he could become an every down player.
buckgrad (Jan 12, 2006 4:11:47 PM)
what do you think about Troutman? PSU bound?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:12:25 PM)
I think the OSU visit gave him a lot to think about. OSU nailed down Dublin, so DL is not as critical as it might have been. I think they'd like to have Troutman, but I think PSU may be hard to beat, too.
buckeyebilly (Jan 12, 2006 4:12:32 PM)
What are the chances that Ryan Hill decommits from Miami and looks at OSU again
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:12:53 PM)
I doubt that happening. You hear rumors and I'm sure whoever was down there this week stopped by to sniff around.
Hicks74 (Jan 12, 2006 4:13:03 PM)
Heartbreaking News with Meeeeeechigan. Marcus Slocum scored about a 4 on his ACT and they lost Gutierrez a QB to Idaho State and a RB - Martin to Alabama on transfers. Now if the lose DB Grant and Matthews WR unexpectedly to OSU I will sleep real well !!
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:13:33 PM)
Yeah, it's kind of in disarray right now. Some rumors have Carr staying through Henne/Hart's run in 07, then calling it quits.
TheKaiser21 (Jan 12, 2006 4:13:48 PM)
Why would Miami Gut their whole staff and Leave Coker. Never seemed like a hands on coach, relied on his Assistants quite a bit. Isnt' this just a brief stay of execution? If you go to the miami boards, I think they would have been more Satisfied if Coker was gone and the Assistants would have been retained. After all they are the ones out doing most of the recruiting.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:14:27 PM)
I don't know. I like Coker. Really nice guy. But they were embarrassed by LSU in that bowl game. They had the ACC in their hands and blew that, too.
robobuck (Jan 12, 2006 4:14:40 PM)
Do you think Jeff Cumberland will get a schollarship? I thought we were in need of a top 10 TE. USC is looking at him for defense. Would he be able to help our D?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:15:31 PM)
Duane's sources say you won't know if he's qualified until June. He said at the basketball event last Sat. that Ohio State has all but stopped looking at him. He is a freak, but if he can't qualify or be admitted it's a waste of time going after him.
Hicks74 (Jan 12, 2006 4:15:44 PM)
Steve - The Glenville pipeline is reloading in ridiculous fashion with some serious transfers from Warrensville and Shaker to name a few. One is a 335 LB DT named Rowell Keep 'em coming Ted Sr ! Another is a junior to be - Davis from Benedictine who is a real specimen worthy of a scholarship entering his JR year per one expert's opinion, A DT/DE
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:17:09 PM)
The kids are migrating to where the action is. They know if they go to Glenville, Ginn will get them exposure and they will play for the best college they can get a scholarship from. Some are making recruiting accusations against him. I don't see it that way, though. Kids are making the first call to him. There was one real high profile kid, in fact, this past year who called and I was told TGI told him to stay put.
buckeyebilly (Jan 12, 2006 4:17:35 PM)
So whats up with youbort and whinter is there any chance the change there minds and return to the Bucks
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:18:13 PM)
Youboty put out a statement that he's gone. My guess is that Whitner follows suit, but it would be a major coup, certainly, if he stayed to be the leader of the defense. I think JT is hoping above hope that happens.
buckgrad (Jan 12, 2006 4:18:17 PM)
who do you think is our other returner next year with Santonio gone?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:18:30 PM)
Maybe Youboty ... oops, he's gone too (ha ha) ...
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:19:10 PM)
Maurice Wells or Shaun Lane or O'neal or Dukes or Amos maybe.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:20:06 PM)
I got about 2 minutes left, great questions today, I'll look for new ones that have not been asked ...
TheKaiser21 (Jan 12, 2006 4:20:08 PM)
Do you think Mitchell is ready? He scares me srry if that is negative, just hasn't shown the athletic ability we're used to seeing back there.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:20:26 PM)
Mitchell has experience and he's smart. He can hit, too. Give him a chance, I guess.
Hicks74 (Jan 12, 2006 4:20:39 PM)
Steve - With the lack of OL why do we not hear from JB Walton ie. He was big on the radar screen for a while....No mention of Sam Young from FL...ND did a great job on the OL !! I hate to say..Other than Browning there are no other OL targeted !!??
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:20:59 PM)
Agreed, none visited and very few will sign. Young, I learned, liked OSU and was born in Centerville.
buckgrad (Jan 12, 2006 4:21:04 PM)
whats your feeling on Mathews? seem to me he is going to stick with scUM.
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:21:14 PM)
I agree. Duane thinks there is some hope there, though.
TheKaiser21 (Jan 12, 2006 4:21:32 PM)
Small? Seems like Holmes clone
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:21:52 PM)
Yeah, maybe a touch faster, though. Good all-purpose football player. He could be on returns if he signs.
buckeyebilly (Jan 12, 2006 4:21:55 PM)
How good is Chris Smith is he a Top National QB
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:22:21 PM)
Lichtenfels and Pool like his arm strength and quick release. Will need to adapt to college game though because prep competition is lacking.
buckeyebilly (Jan 12, 2006 4:22:27 PM)
How Good can Dukes be, is there a chance he moves into Holmes spot and why doesn't Hall move to TE he could be awsome there
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:23:05 PM)
Dukes had a great spring, then something happened. He was the fifth receiver who never got on the field unfortunately. I think Hall can be really good as the third receiver. made big catches vs. UM and ND.
TheKaiser21 (Jan 12, 2006 4:23:12 PM)
He could be awesome int the slot. Reminds me of David Boston Physically?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:23:16 PM)
kleintime16 (Jan 12, 2006 4:23:20 PM)
where do you see the team ending up next year when all is said and done
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:23:43 PM)
I've been saying 10-2, 7-1. With Young gone, amend that to 11-1, 7-1, another BCS win somewhere.
TheKaiser21 (Jan 12, 2006 4:23:53 PM)
The Fiesta Bowl duh
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:23:59 PM)
Where else could it be?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:24:12 PM)
Honestly, with that record it would probably be the Rose Bowl unless they finish 1-2.
buckeyebilly (Jan 12, 2006 4:24:15 PM)
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:24:20 PM)
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:24:41 PM)
Hey gotta scoot. Nevada Chats Monday at 1. Stay tuned to see if Gary can squeeze one in tomorrow.
section22 (Jan 12, 2006 4:24:51 PM)
Their will be a Fiesta Bowl next year, and the BCS championship game will be played in Phoenix, also, true?
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:25:29 PM)
Yes, two different games. I doubt OSU gets tagged to play in the "regular" Fiesta Bowl for a number of years after three times in 4 years out there. But John Junker loves them, doesn't he?
TheKaiser21 (Jan 12, 2006 4:25:31 PM)
Would they retire #10 if he led them to an undefeated season and a NC
SteveHelwagen (Jan 12, 2006 4:25:58 PM)
Policy is Heisman winners. Maybe if he wins the Heisman. They made an exception for Harley, who was The Man for OSU in the pre-Heisman era.
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