Helwagen Chat: Jan. 27 Archive

Below are excerpts from Steve Helwagen's Chat session on Friday. Bill Conley will Chat at 1 p.m. Monday and Duane Long will Chat at 2 p.m. Tuesday.

SFBUCKEYE (Jan 27, 2006 3:13:20 PM)
what's the real scoop on lyons....considering we don't have another "tall" receiver?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:13:29 PM)
I assume you mean Wes Lyons ...

SFBUCKEYE (Jan 27, 2006 3:13:40 PM)

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:14:26 PM)
I just don't think Ohio State felt he was a top priority. They just never pursued him, it seems, like he was one of their "have-to-have" recruits. They don't drop the ball very often. Maybe it gets dropped when they want it to. I dunno.

starBUCKS (Jan 27, 2006 3:14:30 PM)
Hey Steve, What's the timetable on knowing when Derrell Johnson could be offically part of this class?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:15:44 PM)
I don't think anything happens between now and signing day. I would be surprised. He hasn't made an official visit. I think some other schools may be nosing around Johnson trying to see if they can work him in. But for OSU this could be a while. Complex situation and I don't think a resolution involving OSU is forthcoming anytime soon.

SFBUCKEYE (Jan 27, 2006 3:15:49 PM)
any surprises that have not been mentioned?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:16:47 PM)
I was tracking one off-the-radar player but he was told he would not be extended a visit or scholarship at this late date. I don't see anything in the 11th hour that is imminent. I think they're watching Grant and Peters closely. From there, if somebody else is still really in play for them we'll have to see.

kleintime16 (Jan 27, 2006 3:16:55 PM)
Hey Steve, I asked this question to Gary H last night if he thought we were getting any early commitments for the 07 class and he came up with Oliver and Evege. Do you agree with these and do you think that there could be more/less? Thanks/

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:17:46 PM)
There are a ton of great RB-DB candidates in Ohio for 07 (mostly DBs), so if a few of those guys get offers, they would be well served to jump at them early. Duane likes this 2007 class. Too bad Ohio State doesn't have 25 scholarships to give (ha ha).

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:17:52 PM)
As far as quick verbals ...

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:18:32 PM)
I'm not sure. I have not personally built a rapport with any juniors where I would say categorically "this kid is verbaling on Feb. 2." Last year, Wells and Homan verbaled within 3-4 days of signing day.

rbuck (Jan 27, 2006 3:18:36 PM)
Is it true that the NCAA should be coming down with a ruling for the BB team?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:19:15 PM)
No the hearing is set for next week. The ruling should come down between March 1-20 somewhere. Gene Smith is adamant no more postseason bans will be handed down and he used to be on the infractions committee.

buckman (Jan 27, 2006 3:20:14 PM)
Steve, has anyone been able to get ahold of Marcus Ball?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:20:34 PM)
He announces Tuesday between Florida State, Miami, and Virginia Tech. Not visiting OSU this weekend, at least at last check.

rbuck (Jan 27, 2006 3:20:41 PM)
One the academics side, 2 years ago does a Thad Gibson and Ray Small get an offer.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:22:05 PM)
Maybe not. Then again, I'm missing a ton of info to make an informed response (i.e., their EXACT academic marks and the standards OSU is using now and was using 2 years ago). I think Tressel's track record (50-plus 3.0 students and on-field success) may be buying them a tiny bit of latitude with a small number of players. Any discussion of academics is uninformed because we just don't have the full story.

82dBuckeye (Jan 27, 2006 3:22:08 PM)
Hey Steve, how many days until the Michigan game?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:23:40 PM)
4 more days in Jan., 28 in Feb., 31 in March, 30 in April, 31 in May, 30 in June, 31 in July, 31 in Aug., 30 in Sept., 31 in Oct. and 18 in Nov. A total of 295 -- way too many, I know that.

ODOGG45 (Jan 27, 2006 3:23:50 PM)
Steve- how in the world did the Schott. become such a disaster and what do you think the future of that building is? It seems with the way it was financed there is not much change on the horizon.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:23:59 PM)
Oh man, I could talk for days about this one ...

Woody's Bouy (Jan 27, 2006 3:24:18 PM)
Not Steve but 295 till UM

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:25:58 PM)
They built the building on seat license money. That's fine, but that doesn't explain faculty/staff sitting behind the benches. The first 5 rows behind the benches and scorer's table should be students (like it used to be at St. John and is everywhere else). But Gene Smith says they would lose revenue because they can charge faculty/staff $21 a game for those choice seats. It is just a mess. They need a creative solution that makes it a better place to play without affecting the revenue streams. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:27:49 PM)
I'm in the minority, but I like the place. It has helped them build a decent hockey program. The women's program still draws nil but they don't even bother trying to market it and they have the No. 8 team in the country. For big games, it can be imposing as hell. But that's only once or twice a year. It was for MSU, then wasn't at all for Wisconsin. Go figure.

kleintime16 (Jan 27, 2006 3:28:03 PM)
Is there any talk of modifying the jerseys at all? I know that sounds rediculous but I asked Kyle during one of his chats and he believed that the OSU BBall team potentially would have new jerseys next year? And with teams this past year (VA TECH, FLA,MIAMI,MICH) all updating their jerseys is OSU going to follow suit?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:29:01 PM)
No talk in football that I know of. Why screw up an American classic like that? Basketball probably will transition into something new, a Matta look, whatever that may be. That will probably be done with collaboration from Nike, if they continue to do the uniforms.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:29:38 PM)
They added a new twist with some gray in there for the alternate home uni. I like that. I loved the old gray unis they "switched" to late in the season, kind of for the stretch run. But O'Brien ditched that.

Redlegs (Jan 27, 2006 3:29:47 PM)
Duane had brought up the fact that Dante Jackson, 4* Bball recruit, would be a pretty good, athletic WR. Have you heard anything beyond Bball for this kid?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:31:51 PM)
He has basketball offers from Xavier, Dayton and Michigan. I really like this kid. Haven't heard of any football offers yet. I agree with one of the posters the caliber of competition in football (and probably in bkb as well) is not the greatest for Greenfield McClain. Their league is Miami Trace, London, Washington CH, Wilmington, Hillsboro, etc. hard to say. But I like him for bkb. I think he'd be a nice complementary player for the OSU class. His 2 favorite schools, I believe, are OSU and Kentucky.

rbuck (Jan 27, 2006 3:32:03 PM)
Steve, If D'Andrea is healthy will he play the same role as Carpenter last year?? Maybe putting his hand down and rushing the quarterback?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:33:41 PM)
That makes sense. But I think some of that was done because OSU only had one impact end (Kudla). The hope is that some of those younger ends (Richardson, not really younger, as well as Barrow, Gholston, Wilson, maybe Rose or Worthington, or Dublin, etc.) will provide the pass rush they need. Would be premature to assume they'll keep the same scheme because it may not fit their personnel. But D'Andrea, if healthy, could be similar to Carpenter athletically. He deserves a happy ending to his story.

TheKaiser21 (Jan 27, 2006 3:33:45 PM)
Or do we see more of a traditional 4-3 like 2002 where the D-line was dominant?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:34:41 PM)
Yes, that's my point. Until you go through spring ball and see how your D-line is going to handle things, you don't know what scheme they will accentuate. They will put it all in during the spring and then decide what best fits them. Whatever it is, they need to be ready for the spread. That much seems certain.

GoldenBearBuck (Jan 27, 2006 3:34:47 PM)
What is your take on Tressel's first five years and what do you expect during the next 5 years? What is an appropriate salary raise for JT?- I think he should be on par w the Weisguy

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:36:23 PM)
They have had five not good but five GREAT years under Jim Tressel. First year, 7 wins but one over UM -- great year. Second year, 14-0, win over UM and a national title -- great year. Third year, 11-2, top-five finish, BCS bowl win -- great year. Fourth year, 8-4, win over UM, bowl win -- great year. Fifth year, 10-2, Big Ten co-champs, win at UM, BCS bowl win over Notre Dame (no less) -- great year ...

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:38:50 PM)
Fifty wins in five years. Tied Earle Bruce for getting to 50 wins in 63 games. Woody didn't do that. Next five years? They are set up at QB with a winner from either Boeckman, Schoenhoft or Henton and a great TB with Wells and you know they will rebuild the defense. The pieces are there. I see 2-3 more Big Tens, probably 2-3 more BCS bids and at least one title game appearance. They really need 2006 to be a big year. It's the last year with Smith and possibly with Ginn as well. A big year would set them up for more success over the next five years. The future is real bright, in my opinion.

TheKaiser21 (Jan 27, 2006 3:39:19 PM)
I hate being late. Correct me if I'm wrong Mcdaniels name was on the prospect list, but wasn't there today. News on him or was he never on the prospect list?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:40:38 PM)
McDaniels has not been available for a Scout update since Jan. 8. Hard to know exactly what is going on there. You hear rumblings OSU could convert him. What an 11th hour coup that would be, but I am not banking on that.

kleintime16 (Jan 27, 2006 3:40:50 PM)
What do you think are the chances that we land the Belle Glades WR Deonte Thompson next year? Seems to me, outside of O-Line needs, a good crop of WRs is desperately needed and this player seems to be one of the best, if not the best WR prospects in the nation.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:46:52 PM)
Thompson is 5-11, 183 and runs a reported 4.28 40. Wow. You know that Florida, FSU and nearby Miami will be all over him. Like anybody else, the key will be to get him up for summer camp or a fall game and/or official visit. Short of that, they have no shot. May depend on how solid Dukes is with Ohio State next fall. If he is still languishing in the shadows, then maybe it would be a problem. If he has a starring role and can help recruit Thompson, then that would be helpful.

rbuck (Jan 27, 2006 3:47:05 PM)
Steve, Crazy stupid question. Pull out your Crystal Ball. Will Thad Matta and Jim Tressel still be here in 5 years? 10 years? Feel free to call me an idiot for asking.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:47:29 PM)
No, you're not an idiot. Fact is, this is Matta's third job in 6 years as a head coach. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:47:36 PM)
So it's a fair question. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:49:02 PM)
Five years, I would say yes. I think they have each put so much work into Ohio State and the great recruits are just around the corner for each program (Oden and Co. for Matta, Wells and others for Tressel). Tressel is still just 53 (I believe). He has quite a few miles left on his tread. I think he will be here 5 more years at least and possibly 10 if he feels good and things are going like he would like. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:51:09 PM)
Matta is taking almost the Tom Izzo approach (as opposed to the Jim O'Brien approach, which was recruit 4-year players like Brian Brown and expect them to dominate as juniors and seniors). The Izzo approach is go volume, keep the great talent coming and expect that 1-2 guys a year will be going pro early. Ohio is so loaded over the next 3 years or so that OSU can afford to "lose out" on guys like Mayo and Walker. As long as they're able to keep people like Cook, Lighty and maybe Koufos, Lauderdale, Buford, Roe, Gaines, Mullens, etc. at home they should be fine.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:53:13 PM)
The problem is as Ohio State perhaps makes some deep tournament runs (and at this point you just want to see them on CBS in the tournament), some schools and perhaps even NBA GMs will try and come after Matta. Basketball has long been an afterthought at OSU -- even with a 19,000 seat arena. They will need to step up and give him a Tubby Smith/Rick Pitino type deal one day, perhaps, to guarantee he'll be here for the long haul (and of course that will be predicated on how well they do within the Big Ten and in the NCAA). If they start selling out the Schott and sell merchandise out the ying yang that would be a no-brainer.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:53:20 PM)
Regarding Tressel ...

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:55:38 PM)
Somebody asked if he should get Charlie Weis money, which I think is around $3 million a year. That is an absurd amount of money for a college coach. I was driving up 315 today and looked at that massive stadium next to the towers and the hospital. Pretty amazing that they pay somebody $1.5 million to operate the football program almost as a PR vehicle for the school/entertainment for the citizens of the state. But that's where we are in the year 2006. Gene Smith is on record saying an extension will be in order after signing day is complete. Perhaps Tressel approaches $2 million on that deal. On merit -- 8-2 vs. UM and in bowls, 3 BCS wins, academic improvement of his program -- he deserves a raise.

Desertmatt (Jan 27, 2006 3:56:01 PM)
With the apr report coming out how many teams do you see being affected and how hard do they cut back on recruiting borderline players?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:57:24 PM)
The chickens are coming home to roost and now we know why Geiger took such tough steps (and it wasn't only Geiger, but Holbrook and the athletic council, etc.). They have proactively prepared Ohio State for the future. You can't play a football game with a kid who is ineligible. We won't look around in a year or 2 and wonder what happened to Gonzo or Stan White or in 4 years for Andy Miller or Browning or Aram Olson.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:57:41 PM)
I have no idea which schools will be hardest hit by these standards. Haven't seen the data yet.

TheKaiser21 (Jan 27, 2006 3:57:53 PM)
Been some rumblings that OSU has entered the mix on Reggie Ball's younger brother at LB/S. True? and with Grant still a realistic possibility is OSU looking to land another LB/S. He looks to be an Outstanding Prospect, but Hard to believe Tress spends another schollie at either of those Positions. Your THoughts?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 3:58:20 PM)
Our network has a Hot News on Ball. He does not mention an OSU visit this weekend and says he will announce Tuesday between three other schools. That's all I know.

TJ Buck (Jan 27, 2006 3:58:30 PM)
Steve, just wondering if you know of the progress of a few of our young guys and what the coaches might be saying about them. Nader Abdallah, Sian Cotton, Kyle Mitchum, Rory Nicol, and Albert Dukes. Thanks!

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:00:13 PM)
All of those guys -- provided their healthy -- will be in the running for jobs in the spring. They'd love to see Abdallah or Cotton take the step forward and become dependable DTs. That would allow them to keep Patterson as a swing guy. They need another dependable DT almost above anything else. Mitchum and his classmates Skinner and Person will be on the firing line this spring. They need to elevate or they'll be behind the projected top 6 of Datish, Downing, Barton, Boone, Cordle and Rehring. Those 6 could simply rotate all year and they probably wouldn't miss a beat ...

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:02:10 PM)
Nicol, you hope he is healthy and ready to go for the spring. I think he is a more complete TE than Frost, but Frost came up big vs. Michigan and ND. He could be a player. Dukes just has consistency issues. he was listed in the 2-deep but hardly ever saw the field. That tells me he has issues with Hazell or just didn't get it done in practice like they wanted. You think Gonzalez moves into the 2 receiver spot with Ginn as the 1. Hall would then be the 3. But they need a couple more guys to round out the group. Robiskie, Dukes, maybe Hartline, etc. would help this year.

kleintime16 (Jan 27, 2006 4:02:20 PM)
On the "other site" Jermale Hinds is listed as HIGH on Florida. I asked Gary H if OSU would offer this player would he commit and he seemed to think it was a done deal for OSU, whats up with FLA then???

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:03:16 PM)
I dunno. Hines of course came in from Georgia last year, so he probably has some SEC blood in him. I just think he needs to be exposed more to OSU and Ohio and maybe that will change. He's only been in Ohio since last summer, I think, although he may have lived here previously.

82dBuckeye (Jan 27, 2006 4:03:25 PM)
Steve, although there are several holes to fill in the D backfield next year, I think it's a tribute to the CBs like Jenkins, Amos, et al that there is little(if any) talk about Ginn possibly playing on that side of the ball. I think Heacock is a fabulous DC, and expect him to have the D ready. Your thoughts?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:04:51 PM)
Agreed 150 percent on Heacock. Yes, they had players last year -- as many as 7 or 8 will be drafted and Pitcock will be a year from now. But he came into a tough spot after spring ball and put that defense together. The defense did not cost them one football game in my mind, and that speaks volumes for the job Heacock did. They held Texas to 25 points and played well enough to win that game 5 times. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:06:23 PM)
Agreed on the CBs. My feeling is Jenkins will man one spot and it will be open competition with Brandon Underwood (my early choice, if he's healthy and head on straight), Amos, Lane, Mike Roberts, Coleman, Chekwa, etc. also in the running.

rbuck (Jan 27, 2006 4:06:28 PM)
In one word, could you give a description of coach Tressel and Coach Conley's relationship? Or if you care to expand that would be great too.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:08:31 PM)
Respect. I'd say there is respect for each man's accomplishments. I just think they have different world views if that makes any sense. They see 2 different ways to get the same job done and that may have led Coach Conley to leave OSU when he could (retirement situation, etc.). I believe Bill had some autonomy under Coach Cooper and less of that perhaps with Tressel. When you're used to operating a certain way for years and things change, that can be hard for any of us to deal with.

TroySmithWnaB (Jan 27, 2006 4:08:47 PM)
This was probably covered but, Are there any new names poping up at WR after the news today?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:09:38 PM)
I think the new names -- Bowman, McDaniel, Mathews, etc. -- popped up 2 weeks ago when somebody at OSU realized Chichester probably wasn't going to make it. Those cards have apparently been played, and it's hard to get guys to change their verbal at the 10th or 11th hour.

82dBuckeye (Jan 27, 2006 4:09:53 PM)
Steve, I have always wondered how the Bucknuts site stacks up against the other college sites from Scout. I see the message board with a regular attendance of 700 visitors and was wondering if you could name a few that are more popular than Ohio State's. Thanks

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:10:51 PM)
Well, they told us that in the calendar year of 2005, within Scout, Notre Dame (with the newness of Weis) sold the most subscriptions (i.e., improved most from Jan. 1 to Dec. 31). We were next and Penn State was third. I think those 3 sites and Michigan are extremely vibrant as well as Iowa in the Midwest ...

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:11:20 PM)
I think that helps us to have great sister sites like those 4 and probably Wisconsin as well because we're selling you our premium info as well as theirs ...

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:12:40 PM)
In terms of nationally, they tell us some of the very best selling sites are probably USC, Oklahoma, North Carolina, etc. A lot of those were 2-3 sites merged into one. I'm not sure anybody has started at ground zero like Mr. B did here and built it into anything close to what we have. There was no merging or anything like that. Nothing artificial here. Just the genuine article (ha ha).

homesickbuck (Jan 27, 2006 4:12:58 PM)
Steve...It sounds as if Chichester's H.S. coach is a bit miffed at OSU's staff. Did they leave them in the dark about what was going on with the offer situation? It seems very irresponsible to not let them know exactly what was going on long before now. Am I misreading the tone in his comments?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:14:57 PM)
No, I think you caught the gist from Coach Cox. But I think from OSU's perspective, their hands were tied as well (just reading between the lines). I can't speak as to whether anybody ever communicated with Chichester or Cox that a visit or letter of intent was not forthcoming. OSU can't comment either until LOI day -- and even then Tressel rarely speaks on kids who don't sign with OSU. Sometimes silence (from a college coach) is golden to protect the kid and what really may have happened from public consumption.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:15:30 PM)
Coach Cox is just frustrated that this story is not going to have a happy ending. It is too bad. Josh is a great kid from the 2-3 times I have interviewed him in person.

TheKaiser21 (Jan 27, 2006 4:15:42 PM)
Do you think knowing what the staff knows now, they would have taken bowman? No Lyons, No Chichester, and most likely No Mathews or Mcdaniels.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:17:23 PM)
Maybe, I don't know. I can't say if they dropped Bowman because of academics or because they were gambling on getting better players or what. But they definitely canceled the in-home last Friday, which is the same as dropping him. There would be worse things than banking a spot or 2 for next year. Maybe I'm in the minority, but if they get Small in there and he plays WR, I'm not sure they needed another one in this class.

kleintime16 (Jan 27, 2006 4:17:47 PM)
Who takes over the kicking game next year??? obviously punter is set with Trapasso for at least 3 more years, who do you see taking over the PK duties?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:19:18 PM)
Good question. That's why they have the special teams scrimmages in April and August to settle it. They will chart every kick Pettrey and Pretorius make. There were rumors that Skeete could come back after pleading to a lesser charge in his situation. We'll check on that. But competition should make them better. The best man will win. I think Huston said Pettrey had his nod, but Pretorius matched him almost kick for kick in the fall kick scrimmage when Pettrey was hurt.

rbuck (Jan 27, 2006 4:19:35 PM)
Steve, How do I get on the message boards to chat, I've never done it. I'm particularly interested in being involved with chats where Nevadabuck is. Other than the modified chats, which I'm a regular, I do not chat, but would be interested in it. THANKS!

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:20:43 PM)
All of the scheduled Chats are done in this Chat room at the appointed times (watch the home page and top of the Ask The Insiders message board for the schedule). Nevada is doing one chat per month (third Monday of each month) right now. If you have questions for him, just post them on the Ask The Insiders board.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:20:59 PM)
We don't do message board Chats, per se, like some sites do.

TroySmithWnaB (Jan 27, 2006 4:25:34 PM)
I would have been exstatic to land Chinchester and Small at WR. I just feel with the departure, next year, of Hall and probably TGII, we just needed a very solid class. Its early, but what does next years group of WRs in Ohio look?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:27:40 PM)
There are a few WR possibilities. Kyle Hubbard is 6-3, 225 from St. Ed., Chris Givens 6-3, 195 from Chilicothe, Kyle Jefferson 6-4, 175 from Glenville, Terence White 6-1, 180 from Picktown Central. Those are some of the key names. Not a great year, but some adequate players. See how they develop and test in the spring and summer. Doubt any of them get an immediate offer.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:27:56 PM)
May need to go out of state and find a great one.

82dBuckeye (Jan 27, 2006 4:28:24 PM)
Steve, I remember hearing about OSU coaches visiting other programs in the offseason ti discuss schemes and strategy. Is there anything like that planned this year?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:29:09 PM)
I'm sure there is. They go somewhere every year. Probably studying what's the next thing after the spread/one back offense and how to stop the spread on defense. No particular destinations announced yet.

Hicks74 (Jan 27, 2006 4:29:15 PM)
Steve, Sorry, late log in..Your feelings on the lineman attained by our Midwest buddies, namely Young and now Schilling and our lack of success and numbers on the OL ?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:30:39 PM)
They did well and they had to do well. Some of their OL are on their way out. Hey, Ohio State got Smith and Browning plus 2 more versatile guys (Ballard and Miller) who could be the next Barton (remember, he never played one down of OL until he got to OSU). Bollman knows what he likes. They came out OK here. Have to go OOS next year, Duane says, because it is not a bumper crop in Ohio.

TroySmithWnaB (Jan 27, 2006 4:30:47 PM)
I saw some of the video of QB Henton. He has an absolute cannon. To me, he is almost a clone of TSmith. Your thoughts? Is this a trend of QB that Tressle is shifting towards, mobile and athletic?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:32:01 PM)
You might say Tressel is shifting that way, but he also has 2 nice pocket passers in Boeckman and Schoenhoft as well. Even Henton's coach noted the similarities between his kid and Smith. He thinks it's great that Antonio will learn from Smith this fall. I think Tressel is prepared to go in whatever direction he needs to for the offense to be successful.

tflo (Jan 27, 2006 4:32:11 PM)
I think the sleeper in the class is the wrestler from Merrilville.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:32:38 PM)
Agreed, talking at lunch today that if they could get 2 years from Larimore like they got from Timmy A. they'd be on to something. Needed DT in this class.

TheKaiser21 (Jan 27, 2006 4:32:42 PM)
Is Devon going to be practicing at Safety full time. Has the switch been officially made. SOme think he still could be in the mix at WR.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:33:14 PM)
I bet he plays on both sides in the spring and they figure where he is needed/can make the most impact. I don't think anything is ever done officially in January.

Hicks74 (Jan 27, 2006 4:33:22 PM)
Is there a possibility of Devin Jordan resurfacing ? What were the perceptions on him coming out of Massillon before all of the injuries ?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:34:50 PM)
Jordan was a had-to-have recruit in the 2003 class. As a junior, he caught a ton of balls from Zwick. He verbaled, then suffered when the next Massillon QB struggled to get him the ball. He has been hurt ever since he arrived at OSU, it seems. He may be eligible for an extra year if he applies. Otherwise, he is down to 2 years left. Would be nice if he could stay on the field and get in the mix. We honestly don't know what he has to offer because he's always been hurt.

kleintime16 (Jan 27, 2006 4:35:01 PM)
I read somewhere that now that the OSU coaches are done recruiting for the 06 year they are getting a jump start on the 07 year ... where specifically, if this is true, are they visitng and what prospects are they trying to sway our way this early?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:35:33 PM)
Sorry, I don't have their travel itineraries. I'm sure they used this week to get into schools and gather tapes/transcripts/brushes with the top juniors.

tflo (Jan 27, 2006 4:35:38 PM)
Do we lose any assistant coaches this year?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:36:27 PM)
Haven't yet, but sometimes things get jumbled after signing day.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:36:44 PM)
Hey guys, it has been a great 90 minutes. Any last blasts?

tflo (Jan 27, 2006 4:36:47 PM)
Does Vrabel come to OSU in a year or two?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:37:32 PM)
Maybe if there is a spot. I think he still has 2-3 years to play, then I think he'd like to give coaching a shot. He may have some pro offers as well to coach, given his high profile (kind of like Mike Singletary now with the 49ers), etc.

TroySmithWnaB (Jan 27, 2006 4:37:38 PM)
garuntee an NC next year?

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:37:41 PM)
Nope, can

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:38:17 PM)
Can not do that, too many young players on defense will probably get them beat at some point. It happened in 2004 and you had guys like Hawk and Carpenter running around out there.

TheKaiser21 (Jan 27, 2006 4:38:23 PM)
Does OSU have to land one of Ogglesby(bad speller) or Martin. Losing both to ND would seem Devastating

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:38:48 PM)
You pinpoint two key linemen OSU (or any school) would love to have. We'll see if they have it in them to nail those guys down.

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:39:13 PM)
Hey guys, gotta run. Look for Bill Conley Monday at 1, Duane Long on Tuesday and signing day coverage Wed.

Hicks74 (Jan 27, 2006 4:39:16 PM)
Inside info on Grant ?!!! : ))

SteveHelwagen (Jan 27, 2006 4:39:50 PM)
I think OSU, but I just wonder if there is an admissions/academic snag that prevented him from verbaling after his visit and that's why he went to Oregon. We should know more when he returns from Oregon.

Guest (Jan 27, 2006 4:39:53 PM)
Steve, I gotta run. Another great chat. Thanks, TGIF!

rbuck (Jan 27, 2006 4:39:55 PM)
Steve, You're Great. Thanks for making my SLOW Friday afternoon go soooo much quicker.

kleintime16 (Jan 27, 2006 4:39:57 PM)
thanks steve

TroySmithWnaB (Jan 27, 2006 4:40:00 PM)
alright, Thanks...GO Bucks!!!

TheKaiser21 (Jan 27, 2006 4:40:02 PM)
thx alway for the info

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