Duane Long Chat Archive: Feb. 6

Duane Long stopped by Bucknuts premium chat this afternoon to talk OSU football and recruiting. We have a transcript posted below.

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:11:03 PM)
Let's roll.

kleintime16 (Feb 6, 2006 3:11:07 PM)
Hey Duane, if you had to make a guess now ... do you think Devon Torrence takes the MLB $$$ and runs or signs with the Bucks?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:12:42 PM)
I think they put too much money on the table. He is a great football player. Sure top 10 and likely top 5. The thing is he may be an even better baseball prospect. He is that good.

tumbucks (Feb 6, 2006 3:12:50 PM)
Hey Duane! Love the site first time chatter and new subscriber best buy of my life great job! My first question is Will jay richardson finally break out finally ? and if not who do you see stepping up?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:14:25 PM)
I think he could get a shot on the strong side. He seemed to play much better when put in the thick of things instead of out on the edge. I think he is done as the designated pass rusher. Wilson and/or Gohlston will fill that role.

Royal Flush47 (Feb 6, 2006 3:14:30 PM)
Series of questions:

Royal Flush47 (Feb 6, 2006 3:14:36 PM)
1. Is Ben Martin as big of a ND lean as it's rumored he is? 2. What players are next in line to get offers? 3. Who else besides Ben Martin is likely to leave Ohio?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:16:57 PM)
I have never heard that he is a "big" Notre Dame lean. I have heard he was a lean but never a big lean. I do not think that is the case. I do not have any clue who else is going to be offered right now. You have to think Clifford is the one great prospect in this class that leaves. There is talk that may not be true either. We are just seeing this class take shape. Fans need to let the smoke clear. It is way early.

Poz79 (Feb 6, 2006 3:17:12 PM)
Duane, how does '07 look for in-state DTs?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:18:44 PM)
We could have a couple of kids. Antonio Jeremiah is going to be a big time kid. He could be a DT or an OT. Withrow's Daryl Ballew has a Maryland offer this early.

Mike68 (Feb 6, 2006 3:18:50 PM)
Duane- You stated a month or so ago that you knew more about the receruitment of Ausberry than you could say. Can you expound at this time on his recruitment and how close he wactually was to picking the Bucks?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:21:00 PM)
The family wanted him here badly. His dads side of the family. That is really all I can say on that. They really pushed hard. I thought around Christmas it could fall this way but in the end when he had to make a decision he chose to stay close to home.

iceman (Feb 6, 2006 3:21:09 PM)
Duane,your thoughts on the big OT at Northmont Zerbre Sanders.He reminds me of a kid I went to school with at Meadowdale named Irv Eatman.

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:22:43 PM)
I think he is going to be special. If he continues to develop we could be seeing the best tackle since Pace. Yes, better than Boone. He is better than Boone at a comparable time in his development.

SCbuck (Feb 6, 2006 3:22:50 PM)
Duane, when will scout release a national top 100 for the 2007 class? And how many kids from ohio have legit shots at making it?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:24:11 PM)
I have no idea when they will decide on that. I can't say how many kids make it. They don't ask me and I have seen too many Ohio kids not be on there that should be, I am not real happy about how that process is done and will say nothing further about it.

starBUCKS (Feb 6, 2006 3:24:25 PM)
With the recent updates on Aaron Pouge, what sport do you forsee him concentrating on, and what kind of football is he/ potential does he have?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:26:18 PM)
He looks pretty good on a basketball court. He does not look as good on a football field but I don't think he really tries. I have not seen the update so I can't comment on what he said. If he decided to concentrate on football I think he could be a great offensive tackle prospect. Based on what I have seen of his effort in both sports I say he plays basketball.

Mike68 (Feb 6, 2006 3:26:34 PM)
Can you give me your top three CB's in the state for next year (in order)

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:27:17 PM)
I am not there yet. I still have several key prospects yet to see.

buckatborder (Feb 6, 2006 3:27:29 PM)
Does Jamario Oneal start at safety this year? If not, is that less than what you expected of him so to speak?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:28:05 PM)
I think he starts. I think Devon Lyons wins the FS spot and O'Neal the strong safety.

pav2130 (Feb 6, 2006 3:28:15 PM)
Duane how does '07 WR's look, how many do we take?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:30:12 PM)
This receiver class is not looking really impressive. Someone is going to have to come out of nowhere. I can see at least 2. You have to look at Hall being a senior and Ginn highly likely to go. Jordan is not looking like he is ever going to contribute. With the spread you are playing 3 and 4 receivers regularly so having 8 on the roster is about right.

mdbuck (Feb 6, 2006 3:30:32 PM)
Duane, I have a question regarding how scout.com rates the recruiting classes. OSU finished with a national rank of 13, yet if you look at there average star rating it is 3.60 which is the 6th best quality ranking in the country. Why are schools rewarded for bringing in inferior talent just because they have more schollies to give out? Doesn't make sense....

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:31:56 PM)
I can't help you with their ratings. I am not asked for input at all. I have no idea how they come up with those ratings. They don't ask the local sites for their input, those that see the most of the kids, so the ratings are off.

rnpaullee (Feb 6, 2006 3:32:08 PM)
Duane, will Grant step in as a starter at linebacker? Is there any film on him around?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:33:19 PM)
I think that is why the Buckeyes went into the JUCO ranks. This is unusual for Ohio State. He is a Sam. That is where the biggest hole is. Will he start? I don't know. Is he brought here to start? Absolutely.

muskiebuck (Feb 6, 2006 3:33:39 PM)
Duane, who do you think will rotate at TB this coming year AFTER Wells and Pittman? Related to this, what is the real poop on Haw?-is he having trouble picking up the plays, poor work ethic, still in the doghouse for smoking gangja? He still seems to have the physical skills to make a real impact.

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:35:35 PM)
I don't think there is rotation after those 2. I think it will be situational which means Wells. I think he spent some time pouting and they are not having it. Pout or work. Those are his options. It is up to him.

rbuck (Feb 6, 2006 3:35:49 PM)
I hear that Saine is not in love with tOSU, and he likes scUM and the Domers?? Do you have any inside scoop on this RB?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:36:28 PM)
Not yet. That is what I have heard. I am trying to find out now.

kopakigo (Feb 6, 2006 3:36:37 PM)
What is E.J. Underwood doing these days? Is he eligible for the NFL draft?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:37:27 PM)
No idea. I have not heard for some time anything verifiable.

redondo (Feb 6, 2006 3:37:35 PM)
Hi Duane - Who are the "must haves" in order in this class from OSU's perspective? Thank you.

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:39:27 PM)
There is no order yet. I know you want info now but the evaluation process is just now getting into full gear. For instance a week ago I would not have had Saine as a must get. I need time to work through all this tape. I can only give half answers right now on things like must gets.

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:39:58 PM)
I would rather not do that.

The Yetti (Feb 6, 2006 3:39:55 PM)
Who is the next to commit

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:40:26 PM)
No clue. None of the offered kids are saying anything about committing.

bucks09 (Feb 6, 2006 3:40:44 PM)
Hey, Duane. Just how good is Mitchell Evans, and how does he compare to the rest of the QB class of 2007?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:41:38 PM)
He is right there. I think he could be the Brady Quinn of this class. He is a real talent. Watch what he does this summer. He could be the hottest property in Ohio.

todwfish (Feb 6, 2006 3:42:05 PM)
Duane, what is our main recruiting focus going to be next year position-wise? I am late getting here, so i am sorry if this has already been asked. WAY TO GO STEELERS!

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:43:56 PM)
I still think offensive line is not getting enough bodies. Look at the Penn State game. A number of things went wrong but Barton going down may have been the biggest thing to go wrong. All the shuffling was a big problem. Defensive tackle is a need and I think wide receiver.

Hicks74 (Feb 6, 2006 3:44:28 PM)
Dale - Can you see a Tyler Moeller moving to Safety ? Can you see him as a Donnie Nickey type ? USC had a linebacker last year #6 that was not as big as Moeller. Do you see them moving him ?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:45:41 PM)
Dale? Who is Dale? Moeller is coming here to play linebacker. I think he plays there. He was not brought in to be a safety. I think he sticks at LB.

tumbucks (Feb 6, 2006 3:50:16 PM)
Do you see us offering Chris Smith??

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:51:41 PM)
I think Belton is the Buckeye target. Smith, and Evans, are going to have to come to camp because of their level of competition.

Kirk (Feb 6, 2006 3:51:44 PM)
kleintime16 asks "I saw you posted on the premium board about Donnie Evege, but did you hear any rumors about Evege committing this weekend? Because it is the first I have heard of any such rumor myself"

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:52:35 PM)
I am looking into this right now. That would be a huge surprise for me. I need to hear it from Donnie or his dad.

buckeyedelite (Feb 6, 2006 3:52:44 PM)
Duane, Are Ray Small and Thad Gibson following in the footsteps of Freddie Lenix? How optimistic are you that they make the grade? And what are the chances of Small contributing at WR?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:53:50 PM)
I am not going to exhale until June. I am very concerned about it. Small will not contribute this year. Depth is too good.

Kirk (Feb 6, 2006 3:54:24 PM)
RoyalFlush47 asks: "Is Devon Torrence's brother the top player in his class in Ohio?"

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:55:10 PM)
No, he is not. He is a top prospect but not #1. That is looking like an impressive line class.

The Yetti (Feb 6, 2006 3:55:27 PM)
Is Maurice Wells going to be out of the picture with Chris Wells moving in? Or will they use Maurice Wells similar to the way they use Ginn?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:57:10 PM)
I think he gets situational. I always thought that. How many debates did I get in over this kid before he arrived? I see him fitting certain things. I do not see him ever being a feature back here. I never did.

Poz79 (Feb 6, 2006 3:57:28 PM)
Your thoughts on Kyle Hubbard. Is he a TE all the way in college? Does he warrant an early offer or do you think they want to see his progress during his senior season?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 3:58:31 PM)
He is a TE all the way. I got a better look at his body recently. I now see less of a chance he plays WR. He has played so little football I would wait. I think the staff waits.

MBuck37 (Feb 6, 2006 3:58:36 PM)
If this has been asked please forgive me, Just how good is Nate Oliver? My best friend lives in Cleveland and has been raving about him for a while..Thanks

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 4:00:13 PM)
He is special. I saw him in the playoffs and was impressed but the recent tape I got from coach Gibbons shows a special player. He will be the best recruited safety since Doss. Whitner and O'Neal were not recruited as safeties.

kopakigo (Feb 6, 2006 4:00:25 PM)
Where are we going to look for OL and DT? Are there any worthy scholarship players in Ohio? PA? IN?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 4:02:19 PM)
I don't know about oos players yet. I think we don't see an offer before camp. This is not a great looking class. I have 2 more big name players to see yet but this is going to be an oos class on the offensive linemen unless someone comes out of the blue, the 2 kids I still need to see are a real deal, or someone takes their game to another level this summer or next season.

buckatborder (Feb 6, 2006 4:02:33 PM)
Where on the OL do you play Datish if you were in charge?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 4:03:55 PM)
Tough question. You want your best lineman at LT, and Datish was by seasons end, but I think you have a better overall line with him at guard and Boone at LT. I would want to wait until the last practice before the first game to make that call.

skeelo (Feb 6, 2006 4:04:05 PM)
is small good enough to start in our 3 wide sets? teddy gozo and small would be the fastest receivers we would have ever put on the field at one time.

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 4:05:00 PM)
He is not going to play this year. He is a great talent but not this year.

rbuck (Feb 6, 2006 4:05:16 PM)
I keep hearing how strong the senior class is in Ohio, but all I'm hearing about are RB's and DB's is that where all of the talent is?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 4:06:30 PM)
Most of it, yes. That is the downside of this talent. It is very concentrated.

iceman (Feb 6, 2006 4:06:41 PM)
Duane-i was really impressed with Frost at tight end last year.Really think he could be a HUGE pice of the puzzle next year.Thoughts??

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 4:08:34 PM)
I think he could make a huge impact. He played so well when given the shot. He blocks great and catches everything thrown to him.

muskiebuck (Feb 6, 2006 4:08:40 PM)
Duane, it seems like every year the OSU classes are actually more talented than the national recruiting gurus rate them-Gamble, Jenkins, Youboty, Mangold and a host of other players develop and are drafted high by the NFL. Is this a case of bias-e.g. Tom Lemming- or simply a case of the national gurus not doing their homewoprk on guys like Coleman and others-or both?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 4:15:49 PM)
I can't say what others in this business have on their minds. I am not asked my opinion and they don't tell me what they are thinking or how they go about this.

Hicks74 (Feb 6, 2006 4:16:11 PM)
Does the OL worry you ? We lose Datish and Downing this year and a number of guys have not seen a snap yet. I am worried the numbers and game experience won't be there. I can see one injury hurting us next year. The Browns have been notorius on ignoring the OL.

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 4:18:27 PM)
I am very worried about the offensive line depth. It is something that keeps me up nights. I keep going back to the Penn State game. One injury and it all went to hell in a handbasket because there aren't enough kids practicing at each position. We know Rob Sims is an NFL caliber guard. He has been good at LT. Look what happened when they moved him to the unfamilar RT position. We need to get out of this situation.

edbuck51 (Feb 6, 2006 4:19:00 PM)
I don't doubt you are correct regarding MoWells. But if he is strictly a situational player, why was Coach Conley so high on him? Didn't he basically offer him on the spot?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 4:20:28 PM)
I have no idea why he was so high on him. You are on the boards all the time. You know I was not high on him. In this business you are right sometimes and wrong sometimes. Anybody that is right most of the time is going to make a living at this.

Mike68 (Feb 6, 2006 4:20:47 PM)
Who would you offer next amongst the in-state kids

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 4:21:22 PM)
It is not easy and there are the glaring mistakes. That is one of coach Conleys. So far, I mean.

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 4:22:22 PM)
I would offer Clifford if he hasn't already been offered. I would not touch Torrence until I was 100% sure he is not going to play baseball.

Hicks74 (Feb 6, 2006 4:22:53 PM)
Duane - Sorry - In your opinion, do you see an edge on Cordle starting and moving Datish to guard or Rehring starting and Datish being the center ?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 4:24:43 PM)
I like Cordle at center with Datish at guard because I want one of those guys in reserve. Datish or Rehring, I mean. Both can play guard or tackle. I want one of them there to spell everyone on the offensiev line or step in if there is an injury.

wwt (Feb 6, 2006 4:24:46 PM)
I don't understand how any national "guru" could come close to evaluating all the talent around the country, let alone Ohio, that JT and his staff can do at a summer camp. Thus, I give JT's opinion on offering or not offering a player 10 times more weight than the "gurus". Also, I think JT puts much more stock in the character issues and grades while the gurus are pretty much evaluating pure talent. Am I off base here?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 4:28:03 PM)
I think you are dead on. I was going to bring this up on the board. JT is going after character kids. He is doing more and more every year as he stocks the shelves with "Tressel" kids. Look at the instate offers right now. What separates these kids? I ahve spoken to all of them but Oliver. What we are seeing is high character kids with grades. We are seeing a staff that is pulling diamonds out of the rough every year. Kirk Bartons next best offer was Ohio U. Jenkins offer list was not overly impressive. They are doing a bangup job of recruiting.

edbuck51 (Feb 6, 2006 4:28:11 PM)
Other than the one year we got Skinner, Person, Mitchum and Rehring (with Big Steve being the only one to see the field), O-line recruiting has seemed suspect. You could even consider the above group suspect unless some start seeing the field. Why do you think OSU struggles in this area. Additionally, it does seem like OSU struggles to get o-lineman from OOS. Why do you think OSU struggles in this area? There doesn't seem to be a logical explanation as to why top o-lineman wouldn't want to come here. This leaves one to question the staff who handle this area. Am I wrong?

Duane (Feb 6, 2006 4:32:58 PM)
Recruiting is local. Going national takes NFL prospects. We are seeing more every year now because this staff is a great COACHING staff. They coach these guys up after getting the kids they want. Orlando Pace is the high profile guy. We need to see more high profile kids over time. I cannot explain what happened this year instate. It was a monster year for instate talent and 3 of the top 5, all offered, went elsewhere. Why is likely an individual thing. Recruiting is about 2 things. Love of a school, 99.99% of those kids are in the schools state, and success at the next level. Out of state they need to get some good promotional information out on NFL success for Ohio State grads. It is getting alot better. It takes time.

Kirk (Feb 6, 2006 4:33:33 PM)
Ok everyone, we'll have to call it a day. Sorry we couldn't get to all the questions today. Duane thanks for stopping by today!


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