Helwagen Chat: Feb. 10 Archive

Here are excerpts from Friday's Chat session with Bucknuts.com managing editor Steve Helwagen.

Poz79 (Feb 10, 2006 1:10:36 PM)
Steve, I posed this question on the insiders board but I didn't get back to see if you answered it. Have you heard anything on the Ohio State @ Iowa game being moved to a night game?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:11:13 PM)
No, I have not heard anything about that. I guess I should check with Jon Miller, the Scout publisher at Iowa

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:11:56 PM)
On the Iowa thing, that makes sense as an ESPN game, early in the year when it would still be warm at night, two possible Big Ten picks with Tate against the Bucks.

JimC (Feb 10, 2006 1:12:20 PM)
Hi Steve, What Jr are coming in today/this weekend?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:14:07 PM)
The only ones I know about are the ones Chris Pool and Bob Lichtenfels unearthed. I am sure there will be several. I guess Chris reported today that Hughes, the RB from Chicago would not be in this weekend, but will come 2/25 for Michigan-OSU bkb instead. WR Toney Clemons from PA should be in.

buckgrad (Feb 10, 2006 1:14:15 PM)
Steve, when should we expect the next issue of the magazine, the last I received was the issue with AJ Hawk on the cover. (great work on it by the way)

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:14:23 PM)
Appreciate the kind words ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:15:34 PM)
I got advance copies of the next one (March cover date with Holmes and Hawk smiling after the Fiesta Bowl) just the other day. That tells me they should start hitting mailboxes any day. This issue should be in your hands by the 15th. If you don't see it by the 20th, then we need to do something. The following month will move back a few days (they give us 5-6 extra days to work on the recruiting issue).

buckgrad (Feb 10, 2006 1:15:40 PM)
Steve, it was nice to beat scUM last night. Whats your feeling on the sanctions the program may face. Do you think we received another post season ban?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:16:29 PM)
No, aboslutely not. Have to say, as an aside, it was weird being there last night and not seeing their NCAA banners for 1992-93 at Crisler Arena. I imagine VCA will look the same way by the start of next year with some dates coming off those banners ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:17:33 PM)
As discussed, I see some scholarship limits (already in place), repayment of NCAA money, vacating records and titles from the Boban era and that's it. They've now blown out the coach, AD and compliance director and already missed one NCAA. What more could they want? Blood?

TheKaiser21 (Feb 10, 2006 1:17:39 PM)
I got to look at Saine's video. Pretty Impressive. Thoughts on an offer or chance of bringing him in.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:19:42 PM)
I have not seen any video of Saine. I have heard a lot of great things about him. He has good size at 6-1, 205 and supposed to have good to great speed. It's still early. There are just so many great RB-DB type players in Ohio this year. OSU will have to sift through that group through the May evaluation period and maybe through camp in June and make some tough decisions.

Jojo (Feb 10, 2006 1:19:51 PM)
When will the position changes/medical redshirts/transfer info come out? Specifically, what's up with Jordan (health), Underwood (health/maturity), Lane (health, CB or RB?) and Washington (moved to WR, or no)?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:21:36 PM)
Haven't heard of any transfers to date. They hope to get Jordan through spring ball. He has now been there 3 years and has not played a down yet of a live game. Underwood should be fine, I believe, for the spring. JT mentioned he wants him to step up. I think Lane goes back to CB. There really is no room at TB if Wells and Haw check out this spring. Heard Washington was moving to WR. That's almost like a Lyons-for-Washington swap. Maybe they'll each rep both ways and just go where they're needed.

buckgrad (Feb 10, 2006 1:21:40 PM)
Anything new on D. Johnson, or are we going to have to wait till May or June?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:23:46 PM)
I have not heard anything. We have two quasi staff members who keep us updated on all those developments -- MCORF and HH. I assume those 2 will be the first ones to break when and if something develops with DJ. I know somebody mentioned that USC and Miami (Fla.) were inquiring about offering. Haven't heard if anything developed there yet. My hunch (almost completely uneducated) is it will take a final high school transcript with an improved core GPA to get this done. He supposedly has an 18 or 19 on the ACT. So you're probably looking at June at the earliest. They may have "signs" and "indications of progress" between now and then.

DHUMP (Feb 10, 2006 1:24:02 PM)
Which Ohio QB do you prefer and why? What is the strongpoint of each?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:26:05 PM)
I don't know much of anything about Mitchell Evans from Milton Union. So I'm at a disadvantage there. Belton has a huge frame, like 6-6 and I think he is a pretty good athlete. He threw for over 2,000 yards against good D-I level competition in the Dayton area at Northmont. Smith is a little smaller and has an absolute cannon. Problem is competition has been poor down on the river (not his fault, obviously). WVU liked enough to offer early and they won a BCS game this year, so that means a lot of schools will probably be in the mix before it's said and done. I want to see them in camp and see more tape, I guess.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:26:34 PM)
This is a moderated Chat by the way.Questions come to me and I post them as I get down to them.

TheKaiser21 (Feb 10, 2006 1:26:38 PM)
Thoughts on the DT transfer from Auburn. First time I've heard of him. Any chance he contributes? Looks massive. name escapes me but his pic was up 2 days ago.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:28:49 PM)
Juan Garnier is something like 6-3 and 330. Walk-on, started out at Auburn and was a walk-on there as well, I believe. OSU needs help at DT. Without moving Patterson inside (which I expect they will do), they only have Pitcock, Penton, Cotton, Abdallah, Denlinger and Larimore. Kind of thin and not real battle tested. He is a walk-on and, not faulting Heacock, but they will give the first, second and third chance to the scholarship guys first. He'd really have to light up some first-team OL in practice and turn some heads to get a strong look. But he has the size. Can he move? Can he make a difference in the middle? I have no idea.

BuckfanTB (Feb 10, 2006 1:29:30 PM)
Whoops. First, Congrats to b-ball team on big win away from home. Second, has Antonio Pittman made any comment on how he feels about the competition Chris Wells will surely give him? Thanks

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:30:27 PM)
Yes, basketball team turned a big corner with that win. Can't be any more efficient offensively than 95 points and 8 turnovers against a big, athletic Michigan team at their place. That game should give them confidence to beat just about anybody anywhere. They had great balance and won on an off night (clearly) for T-Dials.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:30:36 PM)
Regarding Pittman ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:31:39 PM)
He has said he considers Chris Wells to be like his younger brother, only bigger (ha ha). He plans on taking Chris under his wing and showing him the ropes and teaching him how to handle college life. That's great to hear. They are acquainted and are former rivals from the Akron City Series 2 years ago. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:33:54 PM)
In a perfect world, they could start out with Pittman getting 20 carries a game and Wells getting 10 to get his feet wet, then adjust as need be.

buckgrad (Feb 10, 2006 1:34:19 PM)
Steve, whats your take on the Michigan staff shakeups? And it looks like we might actually make it through an offseason with a coach leaving.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:38:38 PM)
Yes, the Michigan thing came up last night. Sounds like they begged the guy who went to the Bears to come back and take over the defense. Sound decision and sound move by Coach Carr, in my book. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:40:36 PM)
Yes, looks like Tressel will keep his group intact. Truly, who is upwardly mobile? Fickell and Peterson are entrenched at their alma mater. Bollman, Daniels, Heacock and D-Tressel are the old guard. They aren't going anywhere until the fun stops. That leaves Hazell, Beckman and Haynes. Haynes is back in his hometown. Beckman is a Cleveland guy who dreamed of working there and will not lightly turn his back on Tressel, who has given him his first big shot in the big time. And Hazell, I think, wants to ride this wave with some great kids and incredible talents like Ted and Gonzo, etc.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:40:59 PM)
So, I think they have a stable group that could stay intact for another year or 2 at the least. That is great news, by the way.

Guest (Feb 10, 2006 1:41:10 PM)
How many scholarships are actually open? Can you clear once and for all if both Pettrey and Pretorius both have theirs, and the Antonio Smith and Norman will get the final two for their final season? (Which makes me wonder about 2007 when there are about 10 preferred walk-ons instead of three or two like the last couple years.)

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:41:25 PM)
Jojo asks about scholarships ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:41:51 PM)
Answering his questions (sometimes you can't see them because of glitch in the software when a user leaves before the ??? is posted) ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:42:36 PM)
Pretorius was on in the fall and Pettrey replaced Huston for the winter. No idea on Antonio Smith, but there is one open presently and he is probably most deserving. Norman was quietly put on last fall ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:43:21 PM)
As it was told to me, Tressel makes a bigger deal about putting senior walk-ons on scholarship so they get their nice day in the sun. But Norman did go on last year, which he definitely deserved. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:44:08 PM)
I tie up the scholarship count tomorrow, but I think my numbers are 84 overall for 2006 with15 seniors. So if nothing changes they could sign 16 (that total will obviously go up, probably via Ginn, injuries, usual attrition factors).

Guest (Feb 10, 2006 1:44:16 PM)
Hey steve love your show!! My question is if J.T. was to put Ted Ginn Jr. on defense which we all know he wants to play would it make him want to stay for his senior year to get polished on the defensive side of the ball? And do you think that there will any chance that he will be on the defensive side of the ball?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:44:36 PM)
Question about Ginn on defense ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:46:01 PM)
They have threatened to start out using him in red zone like they did with Gamble. They'd like to wait till the weather cools, etc. But it is a possibility. It is scary going into spring knowing Jenkins is solid and then you have to choose from Amos, Welch, Roberts, Underwood, Coleman, etc. for the other spot, none of whom have hardly played a down in a real game at corner. Ginn has the athletic ability to make up for any mistakes.

Hicks74 (Feb 10, 2006 1:46:18 PM)
Another paranoia-induced O-Line. Next year we lose Datish and Downing. We are relying on Barton who has had some injuries and could enter draft with a good year which leaves us with Boone/Rehring and maybe Cordle with exp and a lot of greenies. We are going to need a Person and Mitchum to mature in a hurry and maybe Smith or Browning as a frosh the way Sims did....not very reassuring (gulp)...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:48:15 PM)
I agree. The coaches kind of pooh-poohed the OL depth questions. Everybody sees Ballard and Miller as possible answers, but then you're robbing Peter to pay Paul and you hurt your TE depth. Fact is, they wanted Boren and Joe Thomas and would have pushed harder for Aaron Brown if there were not some extenuating circumstances. Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. But I agree, they are 1-2 injuries away from using guys who have hardly ever played in some key roles. You want to be able to ease those guys in with "garbage" minutes, etc.

Guest (Feb 10, 2006 1:48:33 PM)
Pretorious or Pettrey? Who do you like to win the "K" job? Could we see one as the PK and the other win the kickoff job? I am rooting for Pettrey. He stayed loyal while left dangling in the wind for some time.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:48:43 PM)
DHUMP asks about the kicker job ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:50:18 PM)
Pretorius matched Huston almost kick for kick in the preseason kick scrimmage. Pettrey was hurt that day. But by midseason, I think I recall hearing Huston predict that Pettrey was the guy. He made a Kentucky record long kick in high school. But the key is consistency more than distance. It is possible that one may do PAT-FGs and the other may do kickoffs. Should be a good battle and it will probably be clear which one merits the job.

TheKaiser21 (Feb 10, 2006 1:50:40 PM)
Who plays the slot in a 3 reciever set this year. Would you put Hall in the slot and stretch the defense with speed on the Outsides?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:51:15 PM)
No, Hall would be at split end because he has the strength to beat the jam. Gonzo and Ginn would be the flankers/slot men.

Jojo (Feb 10, 2006 1:51:50 PM)
What are your thoughts on Glenville's Sturdivant and Jefferson? Gino is a playmaker but doesn't have exceptional speed or size. Jefferson has the measurables, but not the production. However, we know what type of talent he's been buried behind. Do they eventually get offers with Hines?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:53:01 PM)
Sturdivant is similar in some ways to Lenix. Gary says he'd like to see Jefferson put a little more polish on his game. Maybe he makes some big strides this summer and into his senior year. Hines is probably the closest to an offer today, but he is only 205-210. Does he play LB or safety at the college level? Get him in and find out, I guess. And he is no sure thing with the Southern ties.

xxx (Feb 10, 2006 1:53:18 PM)
Giving your clean up duties to another senior QB is not a good idea, dont you think so?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:54:35 PM)
Good point. They did that with McMullen in 2003, and you see where it got them in 2004 when they started off with 2 newbies who'd never seen the light of day. Zwick has been a good soldier (at least publicly) about all of this. It will be interesting to see how Tressel handles this one. Kind of sticky. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:55:54 PM)
Will be interesting to see if Boeckman or Schoenhoft would go in first when/if that time comes. Seniority usually rules with Tressel, but he also knows that opportunities to season guys can be few and far between. There may not be a true patsy on the nonconf, either, with Northern Illinois, Cincinnati and Bowling green all booked.

kleintime16 (Feb 10, 2006 1:56:04 PM)
Hey Steve, big game this sunday ... who do you see pulling it out?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:56:15 PM)
Sylvester on a three with 5 seconds left.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:56:22 PM)
Oh, that's been done before. My bad.

kleintime16 (Feb 10, 2006 1:56:25 PM)

kleintime16 (Feb 10, 2006 1:56:27 PM)

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:56:38 PM)
Seriously ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:57:28 PM)
Illinois is a nice team and everything but they aren't as good as they were a year ago. Dee Brown and Augustine have been pretty good for them, but there is no excuse losing at home to PSU ... just as there was no excuse for UM to lose by 28 at Iowa ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:58:54 PM)
Maybe I'm on crack, but those games -- I'd call them bad losses -- expose those teams a little bit. Ohio State has not had a bad loss yet. Ohio State is coming home on a wave of enthusiasm. They could get on a downhill roll here and just seize this thing. The team that wants it more will win it. We saw that last night. At crunch time, UM was disjointed and fell apart ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:59:38 PM)
You know Brown will be gunning for redemption (for PSU loss) and revenge (last year's loss), so the Illini will be motivated. But if Butler keeps playing anywhere close to that, forget it. This is his show.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 1:59:55 PM)
I see Ohio State by 5 in another great battle, probably more of a grinder.

xxx (Feb 10, 2006 2:00:03 PM)
Is it a good idea to have JZ doing mop up duties for TS? Why not give the reps to one of the 2007 candidates???

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:01:02 PM)
Yeah, that's the point. I'm not sure it does. He probably needs a series now and then (when they're up in the second half) to stay sharp in case something would happen to Troy. But you hope they have the luxury to get Todd and Robby in there at some point, too.

TheKaiser21 (Feb 10, 2006 2:01:08 PM)
Just to touch back on the 3 receiver set question. Hall will take over Holmes spot and the rest will be the same?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:02:18 PM)
No, not necessarily. They will be in 3 wides quite a bit. But I imagine that when they are in 2 wides, Gonzalez will be the SE and Ginn would be the FL. Hall would also switch in at SE. To me, it's clear Gonzalez needs to be on the field for a few more plays than Hall ... until Hall shows he can be a consistent contributor.

Hicks74 (Feb 10, 2006 2:02:26 PM)
Steve- Any soph's out there worthy of an early offer like Jamario O'Neill. The little I have read on Zerbre Sanders from Clayton Northmont looks worthy of it , no ?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:04:59 PM)
You got me. Duane is starting in on some underclassman stuff. I have not got a good feel on the underclassmen. Duane says Thomas will be Ohio's best OL next year regardless of class. That says a lot. He also likes Shawntel Rowell from Warrensville Heights. OSU seems to be all over Miami Trace LB Nathan Williams. He was at several games.

BuckeyeJoe (Feb 10, 2006 2:05:17 PM)
Sinse we have a decent chance at a NC this year, doesn't make sense to have two great QBs ready to play?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:05:59 PM)
Yes, Tressel has always said his championship teams (other than 02) always needed the second QB somewhere along the way. Troy's style lends itself to a possible injury, but he's been almost indestructible (knock on wood).

rnpaullee (Feb 10, 2006 2:06:07 PM)
Steve, do you feel that our d-line is capable of jamming the running lanes as well putting pressure on the QB as this that may be the key to us coming out of Austin with a "W"?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:07:40 PM)
That will be a big key. Whoever plays QB for Texas will be making his second start (maybe his first if the first-game starter doesn't do well ... ha ha). OSU will need to affect the quarterback in that game with speed off the edge. The DTs will be critical in collapsing the pocket. Problem is UT has some great skill position players for the QB to dump theball off to. If they go controlled passing game and draws they may catch OSU's young defense off guard.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:08:26 PM)
It's too early to predict a W. The Buckeyes would have the clear edge at QB with Smith playing. But do 9 departing OSU defenders match the one departing QB (Young) for Texas? Hmmm. Probably a night game down there, too. Uh oh.

Hicks74 (Feb 10, 2006 2:08:40 PM)
Steve, doesn't there always to be a senior you would wish would just "go away" ? Not to be mean but they seem to get in the way and you wish a younger guy would get in because that senior is as good as he can get. I felt that way with Pagac, Lydell Ross, Hamby and now Schaefer and Zwick.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:10:08 PM)
Yep, but it's a people business they're in. You win with people, some wise man once said. This is not a rotisserie league or a pro league where you trade guys, cut guys, etc. You treat everybody the same and the guys who deserve to play will play. You keep harmony on the team by treating the upperclassmen with some tiny bit of reverence ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:11:22 PM)
The underclassmen see that and know they want to work to being in those seniors' shoes. Plus, if the coaches were to treat a senior badly who has done everything asked of him, it can create divisiveness and cast doubt in the underclassmen's minds over what the coaches stand for. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:11:47 PM)
It is a unique dynamic to say the least. They just don't discard kids. Too many repercussions if they did.

buckicrazy (Feb 10, 2006 2:11:55 PM)
Do you think Cotton every hits his potential?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:13:16 PM)
Good question. I liked Sian from the time I first saw him as a soph or junior in the LeBron James traveling circus at SVSM. I'm stunned that he hasn't made a bigger impact. I think he's been his own worst enemy at times and he's also played behind some pretty good people. They need him now more than ever. Let's see how he fares this spring.

tflo999 (Feb 10, 2006 2:13:24 PM)
I get the impression that Bill Conley doesn't rate the new recruit class as highly as you.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:14:54 PM)
Bill had some misgivings. I guess I would say Bill is a perfectionist. I assume he doesn't like to see Ohio State "settle" for kids that either don't have the measurables or the strong offer lists from other schools. I think he forgets about a kid like Donnie Nickey, who he offered once and took away from that football powerhouse at Ohio U. He ended up helping OSU win an NC, as I recall. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:15:15 PM)
Bill likes the star power, but I think his standards are awfully high. That's all.

Hicks74 (Feb 10, 2006 2:15:31 PM)
Steve, What are your druthers personally with Devon Lyons ? Do we have enough big receivers (Robiskie and Hartline) in losing Chichester and Hall after this year

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:16:14 PM)
I want to see how he does at safety this spring when they have the time to stop and teach him the position. I assume he will be healthy as well. Good question on the WRs. Maybe they decide they need him back on offense.

DantheMan (Feb 10, 2006 2:16:34 PM)
Touching on the back up QB playing time issue, two points: JT has repeatedly said that he will not sit a second string senior to give PT to a younger player; the senior earned it if he is second string; second point-- if we are pushing Troy Smith for Heisman -- and getting a heisman for an OSU QB would be huge for future recruiting purposes -- Troy will need to put up big numbers and perhaps stay in the game longer than he should to get those numbers. But it will be for the overall good of the program.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:17:33 PM)
Pushing Troy Smith for the Heisman -- and he's already in that derby, it seems -- is a noble pursuit. But I don't think Tressel mortgages the season by keeping him in games when they're out of reach and he can get hurt. He doesn't like to throw a lot, either, when games are sewed up.

Hicks74 (Feb 10, 2006 2:17:41 PM)
Shawntel Rowell FYI has joined the Glenville pipeline !! FYI

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:18:24 PM)
I know that was in the works last month, but was told at least a few weeks ago it was not official yet. Maybe it is by now. I know they wanted to tread lightly on that until all i's were dotted and all t's were crossed.

bb1 (Feb 10, 2006 2:18:29 PM)
Don't know if its been asked yet, but for O-line recruiting next year, is there anyone in state? or is the staff going to be pulling out all the stops on out of state guys?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:19:34 PM)
There are some names. Dan Barry from Mentor Lake Catholic was a standout at the San Antonio combine. Mark Wetterer from Cinti. Anderson is another one to watch. I am sure more names will surface. I think OSU will push hard for Josh Oglesby from Wisconsin. He and DL Ben Martin are probably the top two early names on their board.

grimes (Feb 10, 2006 2:20:18 PM)
can Pretorious punt? Wouls there be any advantage for a redshirt to do this?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:20:32 PM)
Trapasso has three more years. I thought he did a great job this year.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:20:50 PM)
Good to have some competition. They have a walk-on John Thoma who can push Trapasso hard, I bet.

BuckeyeJoe (Feb 10, 2006 2:20:53 PM)
What is this academy thing at Glenville? Not sure what that means.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:22:40 PM)
Well, I think they're working on the details of it. Basically, it will begin as a part of Glenville. It will be a select group of kids that are working toward college, may not all be athletes. I don't know a whole lot more about it. Could end up being a prep school outside OHSAA or some type of select school situation. The goal is to do everything they can to increase the odds of graduation and chances to go on to college for kids who show aptitude and want the opportunity.

Guest (Feb 10, 2006 2:24:05 PM)
Hey Steve, its my first time here, im curious as to what you think about Colerain safety Eugene Clifford. Early reports were that he was a huge scUM lean, now it seems that we may be in the drivers seat, any info or insight in this? Thanks.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:24:40 PM)
Endrai asks about Eugene Clifford ... Clifford is 6-2, 190 or so and is a great athlete. You know Mixon will try and pull him toward UM and Smith and Moeller will do the same for OSU. I like what I have seen of him. Got the frame to fill out to 205-210 and could be devastating at that point.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:24:47 PM)
Anything else today??

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:25:38 PM)
For all the first timers, this is the type of fun we have 2-3 times a week as myself, Gary, Duane, NevadaBuck, Bill Conley, Dave, Kyle and others host Chats.

bb1 (Feb 10, 2006 2:25:41 PM)
who commits next?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:25:45 PM)
Hmmm ....

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:26:58 PM)
Maybe Evege. There is talk he wants to wait and see who else is truly interested. I can understand that. You want people to tell you how good they think you are or can be. Beyond that, I really don't see much else happening for a while. With only 16 scholarships, OSU wants to have a measured game plan. They don't want to go overboard and have 10 verbals before camp.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:27:28 PM)
Unless they are the top 10 players on their board and there is a staff consensus they won't do any better by waiting.

buckicrazy (Feb 10, 2006 2:27:33 PM)
Do you think Butler came out of his shell last night? Seems scoring 20 on the road would help out his confidence.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:28:33 PM)
What I loved were all the drives. OSU is a three-point team, OSU is a dump down to Dials team. And now he and Lewis and even Foster have shown they can also take it to the rack themselves. Michigan got caught on switches and overplays and left the lane wide open. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:29:55 PM)
Biggest play of the game (one of them at least) was late when Butler stepped in after running the time down and hit the crushing bank shot to put them up 9 with 1:45 or so left. Why Michigan never fouled was beyond me. I guess I would need a Duke education to understand some of that alleged strategy.

bb1 (Feb 10, 2006 2:30:19 PM)
I think all of this talk about the 16 ships is a little bit bs, I bet it ends up around twenty, do you agree with that assesment?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:31:00 PM)
I readily admit they start today with 16 and that number will grow with likelihood of Ginn leaving, injuries, transfers, grades, whatever else may happen. I think 18-19 is logical to assume.

reallytired2 (Feb 10, 2006 2:31:07 PM)
what is your prediction on the game at the frozen tundra tomorrow between the bucks and wisconsin?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:32:32 PM)
OSU lost a tough one at home to MSU 4-3 on Thursday. The conditions will be interesting with freezing temps, etc. Wisconsin is No. 4 in the country and they will have 40,000 fans up there to back them. Good luck with all of that and don't get frostbite. Been an unfortunate year for OSU, now around .500 after being a preseason CCHA fave and top-5 team.

buckicrazy (Feb 10, 2006 2:32:44 PM)
I love seeing the basketball Bucks doing so well. It makes it nice to have a team to get excited about after football. Great time to be a Buckeye fan

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:33:44 PM)
Yes, and VCA should be off the hook for the men vs. Illinois and women vs. Iowa at 5 p.m. on Sunday. Nice twin-bill. If they were smart, they'd have a fan fest in the practice gym for people to attend between games so they wouldn't have to stand outside. That only deters people from wanting to stay for the women's game.

endrai821 (Feb 10, 2006 2:33:50 PM)
Any news on Oglesby, Clifford, or Martin?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:34:37 PM)
Oglesby and Martin have tobe their top 2 guys on the board. I am not sure if OSU has offered Clifford yet or not, but they probably figure to.

reallytired2 (Feb 10, 2006 2:34:43 PM)
With all of us having spring fever what do you see our baseball team doing this year?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:37:16 PM)
Dave does a nice preview on them in the March Bucknuts mag. They have 2 of their top starters back with DeLucia and Luebke and Meister will return as the closer. That's all very important. Looks like as many as 6-7 position players return as well. They win the Big Ten regular season or tourney almost every year. Todd is somewhat of a legend in my mind. He would cement that status when he finally gets that trip to Omaha. He has worked so hard at this for so long. You want to see him get the brass ring.

endrai821 (Feb 10, 2006 2:37:30 PM)
What do you think of our chances with Deonte Thompson?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:38:29 PM)
Gonna have to beat out the Florida schools. I assume they will come hard. Not sure if there is a connection between he and Holmes and Dukes. I assume they are acquainted somehow some way. OSU needs to get him on campus and let Hazell work on him. Holmes will tell him too, what OSU has done for him.

rnpaullee (Feb 10, 2006 2:38:32 PM)
Steve, the round table was real cool, keep up the good work!

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:39:08 PM)
That was Mr. Bucknuts' doing. he conceptualized it. We want the audio stuff to be a bigger part of our web offerings. We hope to do the Roundtable once a month.

bb1 (Feb 10, 2006 2:39:16 PM)
now w/ all the ESPiN crap out of the way, do you think that the bucks will start landing more kids w/ higher "stars", like in the day of BC?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:39:55 PM)
Oh, I don't know, I don't think Tressel cares what kids are rated. They use that stuff as a guideline, but not the end all be all that some of us make it to be. They want good athletes and good students that fit their program.

endrai821 (Feb 10, 2006 2:39:59 PM)
I know we lost 9 starters, but what are your expectations of our defense for next year?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:41:19 PM)
Heacock and Fickell (and Haynes and Beckman) will pull another rabbit out of their hat. They have the talent with guys like Wilson and Barrow and Richardson at end and Patterson at DT (he was a load for ND), Freeman and probably Grant at OLB and Jenkins, O'Neal, Mitchell and others in the secondary. Young front must step up and young DBs must not have coverage breaks.

TroySmithWnaB (Feb 10, 2006 2:41:23 PM)
How many verbals so far for next years recruiting class? Just Oliver?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:41:32 PM)
Oliver is the only one I know of today.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:41:59 PM)
Hey guys, gotta run. It's been fun. As I said, for those here for the first time, we do this 2-3 times a week. membership has its privileges!!

osub4me (Feb 10, 2006 2:42:25 PM)
Do you think OSU willgo to a pure pocket passer or stick with a smith/henton type QB?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:42:34 PM)
The best guy will play, that's my thought.

reallytired2 (Feb 10, 2006 2:42:37 PM)
Thanks steve

TroySmithWnaB (Feb 10, 2006 2:42:49 PM)
thanks steve, going to the game sunday?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 10, 2006 2:42:53 PM)
Yep, I'll be there.

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