Helwagen Chat: Feb. 24 Archive

Here are excerpts from Steve Helwagen's Chat session on Friday afternoon.

lorainbuckeye7 (Feb 24, 2006 2:11:04 PM)
When do you think OSU will pick up there next football commitment?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:12:01 PM)
That's hard to say. I don't know of anybody who is ready to verbal this week or any time soon. You hear talk that maybe some new offers will be made in the days or weeks ahead and maybe that will spur some activity. I think they are in good shape on most of the key instate prospects.

kleintime16 (Feb 24, 2006 2:12:06 PM)
Hey Steve, how do you see the O-line shaping out next year positionally?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:13:40 PM)
The unknown is how will Jimmy Cordle do at center coming off his injury. They reportedly liked him last spring and he was not going to redshirt. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:16:21 PM)
My guess is, if he's healthy ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:16:42 PM)
Barton and Boone at the tackles, Datish and Downing at the guards and Cordle at center. That makes the most sense to me.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:17:12 PM)
Now, if they don't think he's ready, Datish could play center and Rehring and Downing could be the guards and Boone and Barton would be the tackles.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:17:37 PM)
I'm confused how they keep Boone out of the lineup and Datish has too much experience not to play somewhere. He can play any of the 5 positions.

kleintime16 (Feb 24, 2006 2:17:40 PM)
Another sub-question to go with my previously O-line Q ... do you think that both Browning and Smith redshirt this coming year?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:18:38 PM)
Yes, I think both are strong redshirt candidates. They have the depth. There is no need to push them into action. This may be dependent on how Person (hearing good things) and Skinner (pretty much the same) and Mitchum respond this spring.

Ryebuck12 (Feb 24, 2006 2:18:41 PM)
Steve i have heard some good news lately about Gibson. Does the same go for Small or even Johnson

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:20:09 PM)
Can't say today. We'll have to check it out. Gary said, I guess, in his Chat that Gibson had a 20 on the ACT. That's great, if true. Perhaps the others have new marks or will get them any day. My feeling on DJ, and I could be wrong, is Ohio State must wait until his final grades are posted in June before they can do anything, so it may still be another 3 months or so before you know anything on him.

DaytonBuckeye (Feb 24, 2006 2:20:13 PM)
Hello Steve! Could you please tell us if you know the interest level of Brandon Saine and Donnie Evege. Are both players in the top ten in Ohio and possibly top ten at their position?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:21:40 PM)
Yes, I believe both will be in Duane's new top 10. Evege was 7 and Saine was 19 in the last issue, which we wrapped up back on Jan. 10 or so. I have not seen the new top 10. I expect Duane to have it done in the next week or so. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:22:50 PM)
Both have reportedly been offered. I'm not sure we have done an update in the last 2-3 weeks to give you a proper gauge. Evege, I know, was excited about the early offer and you hear rumors he may be next to verbal. Saine has to probably be wondering about the RB position with Chris Wells coming in, so he may want to explore some options.

lorainbuckeye7 (Feb 24, 2006 2:23:58 PM)
Where do you think Ben Martin and Oglesby will end up?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:26:39 PM)
Martin is a high character kid according to his Coach Tom Grippa. I believe Illinois and WVU have joined OSU and ND as early offers. My guess is he will explore all options and not make a rushed decision. The key will be how well the schools do with him on unofficial visits, etc. before his season starts and also on game days, etc. I think it's either ND or OSU. You hear ND has a homefield advantage because he's at a Catholic school. I'd be called a homer if I said it was OSU. I'd be guessing if I said I knew. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:27:49 PM)
Oglesby, the big key is getting him on campus for an official visit, maybe for the Michigan game weekend or something like that. That's the biggest obstacle they have. Once he's in town for an official visit, I put OSU's chances in the 40 percent range. The last 2 years they've done well with kids they have gotten to campus ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:29:22 PM)
My thought is his final 5 probably will include some of these schools -- Wisconsin (you wonder if coaching change may cause some pause -- as in, what direction is it truly headed?), Iowa (great OL lineage), ND, Michigan, OSU and probably a Southern school (maybe Miami or FSU). Again, fighting those schools for a great visit date to properly present your case is the key. He can't come here if he never visits.

kleintime16 (Feb 24, 2006 2:29:44 PM)
I have read in all reports that it is a down year for Offensive linemen in Ohio and that there is a chance that OSU might not even offer one O-lineman in the upcoming recruiting year. My question is ... looking back on previously ranked Ohio O-linemen, that Doug Datish was 43rd nationally (3 star), T.J. Downing was 121 nationally (2 star), Rob Sims was 38th nationally (3 star), Kirk Barton was 101st nationally (3 star), all of which was determined by scout.com So isn't there some players that OSU will offer in the upcoming year ... OR ... is it really the case that this years Ohio O-line crop just isn't up to par?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:32:46 PM)
I don't think Duane is all that enamored with the group. In fact, there is one player whose name has come up that Duane doesn't think can play much at all. I will protect the kid because I don't want to torpedo him. I think they have to offer 3 OL, whatever happens. They wanted 3 last year when Bemoll dropped out and left them with just Cordle and Boone. They only got 2 this year with Browning and Smith. They lose 2 with Downing and Datish. But that only leaves them with 8, I believe, on scholarship. They need to take at least 2 and 3 would be optimum. Dan Barry from Mentor Lake Cath. may be the best of the bunch, along with Nick Schepis from CFWJ.

Hicks74 (Feb 24, 2006 2:32:52 PM)
Steve. Good afternoon. Has Mitchum or Skinner added weight. Both came in around 270-275. Have they filled out ?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:33:49 PM)
Skinner is listed at 300 and Mitchum at 295. I do not personally weigh these kids, so I have to take their word for it. But, yes, it seems they have bulked up.

redondo (Feb 24, 2006 2:34:00 PM)
Hi Steve - I understand there are very specific rules about contacting recruits during the prime recruiting period leading up to signing day. But, when there's a recruit like a Hazelton who doesn't sign on signing day, how structured are the rules regarding contact with him thereafter? in other words, what are USC and PSU allowed to do in terms of contact with him at thsi point? Thank you.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:35:49 PM)
I think signing day opens up a new contact period with seniors. I think coaches are allowed to resume contact by phone, I imagine. I doubt they are allowed off-campus contact or anything like that. It's only dead for the 2-3 days leading up to signing day, then it opens back up.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:36:23 PM)
This signing period goes until April 1. I think things then close down until after a kid graduates.

lorainbuckeye7 (Feb 24, 2006 2:38:31 PM)
Are you concerned with the list of kids interested in OSU so far? We have a definant large need for a few defensive tackle prospects this year, along with offensive linemen. We are in on some great prospects, but if we strike out on a few like Barksdale, Oglesby, and Blankenship, then the second options are exactly that great.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:40:10 PM)
Well, I think it's premature to say that. Those are 3 of the top 4 or 5 names you're hearing now. More great players will be unearthed by the experts and coaches, alike. It's very early in the process for 07. And it isn't like they need 5 OL. I think 2 or 3 would be ideal. They need to be guys with the potential to start 2-3 years, certainly, since the OL in 07 will be 2 seniors, a junior, a soph and probably a RS freshman (or another soph, if it's Rehring).

spout (Feb 24, 2006 2:40:22 PM)
HI Steve,thanks for the chat. I'm a Browns fan and a number of the mocks have them taking Greenway. How do YOU compare him to Bobby C? How do you think the "mockers" and true NFL "experts" compare them?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:43:09 PM)
Greenway is ranked 10th overall by the Scout TFY guy and Carpenter is 34th. The injury may play a factor in that. Greenway is a nice player at 6-4, 235, while Carpenter is able to probably play 3-4 different positions at 6-3, 255. I like Carpenter, if he proves he is back to 100 percent. But for people who didn't watch either guy play 12 games a year for 3 years, they'll probably say take the guy who is healthy first.

kleintime16 (Feb 24, 2006 2:43:15 PM)
Pettrey or Pretorious ... OR ... one of each doing respective PK duties?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:44:38 PM)
I'll know more after the kick scrimmage in mid-April. We hear both are building great leg strength. Pettrey had the KY prep record. I always say Pretorius pushed Huston within a kick or 2 during the fall kick scrimmage. But as the season went on and Pettrey (who was hurt and missed it) came on, we heard Huston declare it was probably his job to lose. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:46:06 PM)
The most important thing is OSU has options and competition at that spot. If Skeete comes back (and we heard he was fighting to get back on as a walk-on), that would be even more competition. My feeling is he'd have to clearly beat out Pettrey and Pretorius to get the job and his scholarship back. I doubt they'd want 3 kickers on scholarship unless they had no choice and he was clearly clearly the best.

homer (Feb 24, 2006 2:46:27 PM)
Hi Steve, Saw a prospect named Antonio Jeremiahs (i think I'm recalling the name correctly) video from a link on our board & he looks like he could be a very good interior D-line or Olineman. Big, powerful, nose for the ball. He really gets after it. Any early word or impression on him?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:47:21 PM)
Yes, Duane loves him. I know that. He has mentioned him to me several times. I do not have all of his particulars in front of me. But Duane has tape and he loves the kid.

celinabuck (Feb 24, 2006 2:47:26 PM)
hey steve, I live about 8 miles away from coldwater, what are the chances that we will see Homan on the field?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:48:40 PM)
Very strong ... this year in some capacity. We have heard he is wowing everybody at OSU with his work ethic and attitude. He is a "yes sir, no sir" kind of kid and he has mixed in very well with the Hawk/Laurinaitis group, we hear, that lives in the weight room (or weight indoor field, ha ha). Let's see how he does this spring.

celinabuck (Feb 24, 2006 2:48:46 PM)
I heard that Whitner is running a 4.39 40? If so, do you think there is a chance of him playing CB in the NFL

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:49:17 PM)
Maybe. The great thing is he has the ability to do both. Man, a 4.39, that kid could be a millionaire. Great to hear it, if that's the case.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:49:40 PM)
That helps his marketability if he can play all 4-5 secondary positions. Maybe they use him as a nickel as a rook.

kleintime16 (Feb 24, 2006 2:49:48 PM)
When do you think Jermale Hines gets his schollie and if or when he does will he end up at OSU

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:51:37 PM)
Hines is listed at 6-2, 200, so he may be lapped in with all of the other great safety prospects and not so much the LBs. So there may not be an urgency to offer him today. Not sure about his academics (as in, I don't know his marks, not that I think they're bad or anything). And he's from the South, so even if they offer, if Fla. or Ga. do likewise, he may be tempted to go down there.

lorainbuckeye7 (Feb 24, 2006 2:51:48 PM)
Obviously we all expect a drop-off from last years great defense, but how big of a drop-off do you expect? Where do you think we will rank defensively in the Big 10 next year?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:53:27 PM)
OSU has too many great athletes to fall much below third or fourth in the Big Ten defensively. You watch, OSU and PSU were neck and neck this past year. I bet the fall off at PSU is to the middle of the pack. They don't have the kind of talented depth in their program as OSU does. At least I don't think. There will be a drop off, and I can't honestly sit here today and say that Michigan or Purdue or anybody else will be the one to replace OSU at the top. Let me say this ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:54:18 PM)
... If OSU is tops in the Big Ten in defense, then they should win the NC and Jim Heacock should win the Broyles Award (top assistant) hands down. I was surprised he wasn't a nominee this past year, given the situation, taking over for the last week of spring ball.

celinabuck (Feb 24, 2006 2:54:25 PM)
Out of Chimdi Chekwa, Aaron Grant, and Grant Schwartz, who has the most upside?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:55:49 PM)
Probably Chekwa. Go watch his tape. Wow. Big corner who can run, reminds me of Chris Gamble a little bit. Gant and Schwartz also come highly regarded and I don't want to shortchange them. Schwartz needs to adapt a little bit to being a full-time defensive player. But he is smart enough to handle that. Chekwa may be the closest right now.

kleintime16 (Feb 24, 2006 2:56:13 PM)
Howcome all the best touted D-tackles seem to be some the south????? It seems like every year that the best d-tackle is from Louisiana or Texas or Oklahoma. I think this is one of the main reasons OSU is currently lacking in the depth chart at this time. Why don't the northern states seem to produce the caliber d-tackles being produced in the south?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:57:35 PM)
I don't honestly know. OSU had great success with Pickett at DT. Peterson was a converted end. Pitcock and Anderson were from Ohio as well. Darrion Scott converted end from WV. Patterson, who I expect to be a full-time or at least most-of-the-time DT, is from Ohio. But I know what you're saying. They just grow them big and fast down there.

rbuck (Feb 24, 2006 2:57:44 PM)
Cowherd made a comment that the three biggest sports at OSU are regular season football, recruiting season, and spring football, and that Basketball is fourth. I completely disagree and think that basketball can be huge at OSU just not as big as football.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 2:59:51 PM)
It will never be as big as football. Won't happen. But Ohio, in general, is also a GREAT basketball state. I saw in 1999 when OSU made the Final Four an outpouring that OSU fans reserve for the biggest football events. When OSU won its NCAA opener that year and was facing Detroit for a trip to the Sweet 16, thousands of fans -- maybe 8,000-10,000 -- traveled to Indy to see that game on the weekend. That's an outpouring that only the biggest bkb schools like UK, UNC and Indiana can match. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:00:50 PM)
Ohio State fans will travel and support a winner in men's basketball. They traveled en masse down to Knoxville to see the regional there as well. When something like this year happens, support for the team heats up in a hurry ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:02:24 PM)
The problem OSU basketball has is exposure across the state. The football games are carried live all across the state every week, either on ABC, ESPN or ESPN-Plus. Basketball, at least this year, is rarely on CBS or ESPN and the ESPN-Plus is Channel 10, one station in Dayton and a low power BS station in Cleveland and that's about it. People outside central Ohio don't get to see the games unless they pay per view them. Maybe that will change as the team gets good and more games will then be on CBS and ESPN anyway. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:03:11 PM)
But even the Scoonie and Mike teams didn't help them build a real, true ESPN-Plus network around the state. In the ACC states, you have try to avoid watching the games. They're on everywhere. Here, you can't get them ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:04:10 PM)
Plus, the papers other than Dayton (occasionally) and Cleveland (typically) do not cover Ohio State basketball at all. They have a football story in the paper and on their site every day during the season. Add it all up and you see why OSU basketball is at a disadvantage in its "quest" to ever be as big as OSU football.

rbuck (Feb 24, 2006 3:05:01 PM)
On that Basketball note. Any word on when the sanctions will be announced? With a win on Saturday and winning out in the regular season, is that a sure #2 seed, and playing at the Dayton Decibal Dungeon?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:07:00 PM)
Rumors are we may know something in the next 2 weeks. Stay tuned, I guess. Yes, getting to 23-4 would be a 2 seed regardless of what happens at Indy. I think if they win out through Indy, they'll be like 3-4 in RPI and may push the one line. And, yes, it would be a felony if they play anywhere but Dayton. Somebody said UD still had a few scattered ducats. I attended a women's game there once (a friend of my wife's played at UMass), never attended a men's game. Does it get loud or does sound dissipate?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:08:50 PM)
As we saw in 2002, I think the committee has most of the heavy lifting done on Friday or Sat. of that weekend anyway. They never seem to penalize teams who get dumped early in conf tourneys. They don't want to be accused of letting one bad game dictate a seed. And we saw they didn't exactly reward OSU in 02, either, for its damn impressive run (that win over Illinois in the semis stands out, in my mind, as one of the most well played, entertaining games OSU has ever played).

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:09:16 PM)
And they just obliterated Iowa in the finals. The tourney MVP was somebody named ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:09:24 PM)
Boban Savovic (egads).

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:09:42 PM)
Oh, but we'll always have the memories.

homer (Feb 24, 2006 3:09:48 PM)
What is the ideal number of OL to have on scholarship? I would think 12 min. to 14 concerning time it typically takes to develop, injuries, need for true 2 deep, guys who aren't as good as we thought etc. Are we cutting it dangerously close?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:11:27 PM)
Yes, I think 12 is the ideal number. They will have 12 this year if you count Schafer (I have honestly lost track of which side of the ball he is on). Counting him, they lose 3 (Schafer, Downing and Datish), so that leaves them with 9. Thus my contention that they need at least 2, maybe 3 in this class. Anything above that is a luxury for scout team purposes, etc.

kleintime16 (Feb 24, 2006 3:11:37 PM)
There have been some rumblings on the board that Worthington might move over to the O-line in the upcoming years. Any truth to these rumors?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:12:42 PM)
Oh, I don't know. He seemed like a pass rushing monster coming out of high school. Then he got hurt. Maybe because of the injury his athletic ability could be affected and he may have to settle in as an OL. But I think it's way too premature to assume that. I think once he's healthy they will want to see how he does ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:14:18 PM)
I don't want to say that the OL is not an important or skilled position. But you can not ever have too many big guys who can run and change a game with a negative play (sack, forced fumble, TFL, batted pass, etc.) at the defensive end position. There are not enough of those guys to go around. I imagine when he's able, he will try and win a spot at DE first, then go to the next option if that does not work out. His big thing now is just doing his rehab and getting back to 100 percent ASAP.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:15:25 PM)
Another thing about end, you change a game -- like, say, the Fiesta Bowl -- by getting after the quarterback. You do that with big athletes who can run. Ask Brady Quinn about the pressure OSU exerted on him and whether it impacted his decisionmaking, Weis' play calling, etc. as that game wore on.

celinabuck (Feb 24, 2006 3:15:54 PM)
I'm sort of a young'n, but going back to the Eddie George days, was he a big timer coming out of high school like Wells? Or was he more of a Antonio Pittman? If like more Wells, compare them to each other, because I see alout in common.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:16:00 PM)
Great, great question ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:16:28 PM)
Bill Conley wrote a column in August detailing Eddie's story. He helped recruit him to OSU way back in 91-92.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:17:46 PM)
In a nutshell, Eddie lived near Philly and fell in with the wrong crowd. His mom sent him to Fork Union Military Acad. Conley "found" him there, so to speak. He was probably 6-2, 210-215 at that point and was just killing people. As Bill says, this was turn on the tape, watch 4 plays, turn it off and offer the kid almost on the spot ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:18:46 PM)
Penn State did not want him as an RB. Eventually, other schools got in on him. But he remembered that OSU was one of if not the first, he loved his visit and Bill says he verbaled right before he headed home from his visit. The rest is history and now he has a restaurant on high street. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:20:16 PM)
Eddie made himself into a monster, kind of like Pittman did this past year. Don't get me wrong. Pittman is still a notch or 2 below the Eddie we saw in 1995. But Eddie in 1992 or 1993 could not hold a candle to the Eddie in 1995, almost like Pitt's 2004 and 2005 are like night and day. Eddie worked hard to get to 6-3, 227 and winning the Heisman. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:20:51 PM)
Wells comes in at or near those dimensions, he is much closer to a finished product. I hope that answers what you were asking.

lorainbuckeye7 (Feb 24, 2006 3:21:11 PM)
Man, Ohio State could have a devastating DT rotation next year. Pitcock is probably a top-5 DT in the nation, and Penton and Patterson are both studs also. The X-factor could be Cotton, who could be on Pitcocks level if he works at it. The only thing is that I think all of these guys are gone after this coming year, whats the word on Delinger and Abdullah, do you think that they will become great players in the future?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:21:59 PM)
It's on them to step up this year and crash the rotation and get the experience they need, so then it is not such a big blow in 2007. I think hopes are high for those 2 as well as Larimore, who kind of projects like a Tim Anderson.

homer (Feb 24, 2006 3:22:15 PM)
Prospect Corey Pigg mentioned he transferred from Edgewood to Middletown because Edgewoods program was threatened by lack of funding. I'm from Middletown and everytime in the last few years that I've been home, heated tax levy issues are in the news. Always Football is threatened with being terminated if they don't pass. Franklin and Edgewood dodged a bullet last year, and Preble-Shawnee was in a similar situation, not sure the outcome. Is this a big problem statewide? Seems like it could seriously damage OH high school Fball.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:24:23 PM)
Yes, it is a big problem all over the state. We could discuss this issue on here for days. Suffice to say, there is a state Supreme Court ruling 10 years old that says funding for public schools is unconstitutional. The court asked the legislature to fix it and, because of politics, they still don't have the first clue about what to do. Another factor is tax base. These small districts rely on property taxes from factories, etc. When those things dry up and pull out (as we see everywhere), they lose tax revenue. ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:25:19 PM)
It falls back on voters and school boards are smart. They institute pay to play or just say we'll cut sports and busing and band, etc. unless you pass the levy. The blackmail threats work a good percentage of the time and people agree to tax themselves even more ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:27:09 PM)
These are hotly contested issues in small and big towns alike. The thing that kills me is some of the levies ask for millage that would amount to an additional $200 a year for people who own a $100,000 house or something like that. And people balk over something as small as that for something that should be tantamount (their kids' education). We also figured one time at a paper I worked for that the bleeping parents didn't register or voted against one of the school issues. Don't get me started ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:27:43 PM)
The good news is there are enough areas and districts where people value extracurriculars as part of the education process that they are continuing to thrive.

rbuck (Feb 24, 2006 3:27:48 PM)
Stupid question! How is Cook on the West team and Oden and Conley are on the East squad?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:28:16 PM)
Just balancing the rosters, I'm sure, by position. Plus, it gives ESPN a talking point that the future teammates are on opposite sides.

rbuck (Feb 24, 2006 3:28:25 PM)
Steve, Your Brother-In-Law went to UD for a few years, he should be able to tell you. Although they sucked when we were there. But yes, It gets LOUD!

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:29:33 PM)
Thank you. I know he was there for a cup of coffee, as they say (that's what they say when a baseball player gets a month in the bigs before heading back down). I am hoping to cover 2 NCAA tourney games there in a few weeks. I did not cover them when they played there in 91 (and nearly got dumped by Ga. Tech).

Hicks74 (Feb 24, 2006 3:29:41 PM)
Thank God for Kleintime 16 and Homer..I thought I was the only paranoid/frightened fan as far as the OL ! They do seem lax ! Getting Nagy this year ie would have made sense since in-state linemen next year are sub par.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:30:31 PM)
We say that, but I trust Bollman's judgment. He knows what he wants/likes when he sees it. Browning doesn't really fit the mold of guys he has taken. But he must like something ... in addition to the 4.0 GPA.

kleintime16 (Feb 24, 2006 3:30:44 PM)
I like what im hearing if Homan ends up with number 6 ... potentially OSU could have 1 (Freeman) on the outside ... 5 (D'Andrea) in the middle ... and 6 (Homan) on the other side. Intimidating to have all these small numbered people chasing you down i think

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:31:43 PM)
They just run faster with a smaller number, huh. But we'll see. Like the kicker position, they have a ton of talent there and the competition for playing time should be fierce. Fickell is not awarding time by default. There is talk Laurinaitis may move inside to shake things up there if D'Andrea can't go.

Guest (Feb 24, 2006 3:35:46 PM)
lets say that tOSU wins out, and makes it to the Big Ten championship game and wins, do they have a shot at 1 seed?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:37:17 PM)
I think if the committee wants to do the job right, yes, Ohio State would merit a one if they win out. They would be 26-4. They talk about Texas, which has 4 losses TODAY and could lose 2 more before it's all said and done, as a one seed. Of course, Texas did play Duke and Tennessee and maybe even Memphis. The nonconf holds OSU back, but RPI does not like. OSU is 6 in RPI. If they go on a run and beat say ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:39:49 PM)
Michigan, NW, Purdue then Minnesota, Illinois and Iowa at the tournament, their RPI would be no worse than 4. With upsets taking others down (Nova or UConn and any others), OSU could move up. The two seed seems more likely. I like OSU as a one ahead of Memphis. C-USA is a joke. It's C-USA in name only with no Charlotte, DePaul, Marquette, Louisville or Cincinnati (nice gack job against Nova, beaten on an inbounds pass layup in the final second ... at home, no less).

rbuck (Feb 24, 2006 3:40:15 PM)
Regarding Bill, I think he is right up there with all of you guys who work for this Site. Every single one of you Steve, Dave, Kirk, Gary, Bill, Kyle, and whomever else I'm leaving out do an absolutely INCREDIBLE job. I would say between work and home I check the site 10-20 times a day.....Does this mean I need to get a life?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:40:41 PM)
No, it means you need to recruit 20 other people like yourself to spend most of their day here (ha ha) ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:42:02 PM)
Thanks for the comments, by the way. And, seriously, we have built something nice here by bringing Dave on full time last year and the rest of the people we have. We've built a nice staff. We want to keep building and make it even better. One way to do it is through word of mouth of our subscribers. Spead the word.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:42:46 PM)
I am excited about Fox's purchase of Scout, even if things move at glacier speed at times. The new leadership group is in tune with what we want to do and I think we'll make some steady advances locally on the site and at the network level.

lorainbuckeye7 (Feb 24, 2006 3:43:12 PM)
Any chance Derrel Johnson walks on to OSU?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:44:25 PM)
If he does, I imagine it would only be with the idea that he would go on scholarship quickly if he proves himself/stays eligible/whatever. I have a feeling if he checks out academically in June, one or more schools will offer him and he may have a tough choice to make. I can not speak for the OSU coaches, though ...

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:46:34 PM)
This will be their call and admissions' call as well. People are like "He should just walk on" and get the scholarship later. He can't even enroll and walk on if he doesn't get through admissions. Perhaps that's the biggest hurdle now. I say just relax and let the process play out. If there are any major developments, I assume HH or mcorf will clue us in within the hour. That would be exciting, to say the least, when and if that day comes.

rbuck (Feb 24, 2006 3:46:49 PM)
Will we see Gary's dream come true...TGII on defense this year? I want to see if he is as good on that side of the ball that Gary says he is. I'm sure Gary is right.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:48:27 PM)
With Ted all things are possible. He hasn't let me down yet, I know that. He is amazing. He made ND's defense look like Kent State. And my thought is you hope OSU has corners in the pipeline who can play so Ginn doesn't have to also play defense.

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:48:34 PM)
Anything else today ???

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:48:49 PM)
As we approach the 100 minute mark?

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:49:25 PM)
Enjoy the weekend, watch the game at 1:30 tomorrow, the Schottenbanger should be hoppin'

SteveHelwagen (Feb 24, 2006 3:49:32 PM)
Good night now.

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