Lamb Chat Archive: July 18

There's been plenty of news to discuss with the OSU basketball program recruiting-wise, and Bucknuts basketball reporter Kyle Lamb stopped by Tuesday afternoon to chat it up about hoops recruiting. We have a transcript posted below.

KyleLamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:14:09 PM)
Ok, I'm here...

keato (Jul 18, 2006 12:14:14 PM)
Kyle, I posted earlier about the chances of the Bucks bringing in 3 more recruits for 2008 do you think Matta can get Buford, Crater and Roe or Gates to go along with the 2 committed already

jd (Jul 18, 2006 12:14:26 PM)
Kyle, is Roe really that serious about UM ? I mean they look like a perineal NIT team with the talent that all the other Big10 schools are picking up. Is is all about early playing time with him ?

KyleLamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:14:57 PM)
Any questions, fire away.... (any questions you sent earlier you may have to send again so that I can take over the moderation from here)

KyleLamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:15:04 PM)
(This user is now known as Kyle S. Lamb)

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:16:05 PM)
Keato, I think Ohio State ideally would like to see three more recruits including those three you mentioned... and If Oden and Cook were to both leave after the first year or two as expected, taking up to six players would not be out of the question... to answer your question directly, yes I think it's highly possible Matta can get those guys

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:17:39 PM)
JD... Roe is serious about Michigan. He likes the fact he could make a difference there and they have been in for a long time and loyal to him. However, he's very concerned by the fact they have struggled to recruit other players and take the next level to the NCAA. I think Michigan holds a slight lead, but deciding to attend Michigan over an Ohio State, Florida or Michigan State is another thing

hoopsgolden (Jul 18, 2006 12:18:08 PM)
How long will Oden need to heal?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:19:19 PM)
Realistically about 6-7 months to be 100 percent, but that's as of last month when the surgery was performed. I know there's a lot of doomsday, "oh know, Greg could be out the entire season," type of talk, but realistically he will be playing in 2006-2007 and possibly as soon as late November or December. I would say don't count on him being back until early January, however.

MJ (Jul 18, 2006 12:19:40 PM)
Starting 5 next season?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:20:42 PM)
If you mean this upcoming season... I'll say Conley, Butler, Cook and Lewis or Harris along with Terwilliger to start the season, and Oden when he returns then Terwilliger or Lewis at the four. Othello Hunter and Harris will both see a lot of time regardless

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:21:10 PM)
Next season (2007-2008)... I think it will be Conley, Butler, Cook, Lighty or Koufos and Oden (yes, I do believe he will be there two seasons)

keato (Jul 18, 2006 12:21:26 PM)
Kyle, at 7-1 Kosta Koufos and the style of his game that NBA scouts covit do you see him leaving after a year or two?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:22:59 PM)
Kosta is the type of kid that will probably be around a few years. I see him staying two or three years and four isn't out of the question. I'll say this about Koufos - in addition to his unbelievable skill, he's one of the hardest working basketball players I've seen. The kid lives in the gymnasium. He has a couple of different trainers, he works out at Walsh College with their training staff, he has a key to his high school gymnasium where he goes for hours a night on his own... he's an unbelievable worker

mike4180 (Jul 18, 2006 12:23:09 PM)
Kyle keep hearing that Roe wants to leave the state. What's that all about? Is that directed towards osu cause it does not seem to be a distance thing with UM and MSU involvement.

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:25:17 PM)
Although he could end up leaving the state, I don't think it was much more than telling some people what they wanted to hear. That's not to say it's a slam dunk he goes to Ohio State.. but Ohio State and Michigan are probably the top two teams right now, and although other people might tell you differently (folks in East Lansing), I really do not believe it's the case. Roe has not even mentioned Michigan State in interviews to anyone other than when Michigan State reporters were present at Nike Camp. Now let me make one thing clear... I think the Spartans are involved and I think Tom Izzo is the kind of coach that might be in it until the end, but a lot of people believe Ohio State may be the team to beat for Roe (while I happen to think Michigan has a slight edge)

ohs (Jul 18, 2006 12:25:49 PM)
who is starting line up for us in 07, 08 and 09?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:26:14 PM)
I gave the lineups for this year and next year in my opinion, but looking beyond next year is a little too early for me to speculate haha

keato (Jul 18, 2006 12:26:22 PM)
Mayo to USC or not? I never did see or hear of his press conference!

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:27:14 PM)
I'm skeptical, still, that he ends up there, although they do seem to be the favorite. I really think the Mayo recruitment will drag on for a good while and it may take some twists and turns. In the end, USC has a shot certainly.

ohs (Jul 18, 2006 12:27:31 PM)
who completes the 08 class? which recruits?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:28:32 PM)
I feel like William Buford is a very, very likely target. Anthony Crater is also a good possibility for Ohio State. I think you'll see either Delvon Roe or Yancy Gates, but not both, although Ohio State might like to have both of them if they're fortunate enough

mike4180 (Jul 18, 2006 12:28:46 PM)
Kyle ... do you feel more love coming from the Gates camp?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:29:28 PM)
I think Ohio State is in a much better position to land him than where I felt they were several months ago. The combination of not getting Alex Tyus, Brayden Bell leaving the program, etc... it's not hurt matters whatsoever.

ohs (Jul 18, 2006 12:29:39 PM)
when does oden start back and what seed do we get in tourney in march?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:30:41 PM)
My own personal opinion, and it's just that - an opinion, is that you'll see Oden back on the floor by the end of December if not a few weeks sooner. But understand it could be as late ast January or the first of February hypothetically before he returns (I still say it's not likely to be that long, however).

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:31:29 PM)
As far as the seed, it will much depend on people staying healthy, especially while he's out of the lineup. WIthout Oden, a few non-conference losses are extremely likely, but if Ohio State can make a good run through the Big Ten at something like 13-3, I would anticipate another No. 2 seed again this year

keato (Jul 18, 2006 12:31:43 PM)
Kyle, with Mullens in the fold does Matta still go after Frease?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:32:44 PM)
Frease is certainly still being recruited. Whether he gets a scholarship offer or not? Hard to say. If he does, it's a tough call as to whether he takes it or not. He would love to play for Ohio State, but right now he questions how much playing time he would get on that roster

rbuck (Jul 18, 2006 12:32:59 PM)
I'm not sure if that was your report or not, but I read that Mullens has been impressive at camps. Have you seen this with your own eyes?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:33:12 PM)
He really improved the last three or four weeks...

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:33:40 PM)
I did not see his Adidas performance, but I saw him dismantle Dallas Lauderdale at the OSU Team Camp. He had 26 points and something like seven rebounds, I believe

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:34:03 PM)
He was aggressive and showed a lot of versatility on the offensive end with post moves, outside shot and also being able to attack the defense inside

rnpaullee (Jul 18, 2006 12:34:23 PM)
How interested is Coach Matta in the development of Kenny Frease as Kenny can be gauged by games vs Kosta/Glenoak and Canton Mckinley?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:35:21 PM)
I think you hit the nail on the head - Matta already seems to like Frease but he can help himself tremendously with games against Lauderdale and Koufos. I'm sure Ohio State doesn't feel Frease needs to 'prove' himself, so to speak, but a big performance against those two wouldn't hurt

MJ (Jul 18, 2006 12:35:27 PM)
Eric Gordon going to IU or UI?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:36:34 PM)
I'll say Illinois for now, but I feel strongly the 'rumors' of his looking around at a few other programs were legit. Nothing would surprise me with this situation. There's even a third team beyond those two I could see him possibly going to. For now though, I'd give Illinois the benefit of the doubt.

osuhoops1 (Jul 18, 2006 12:36:51 PM)
Two more scholarships available, Buford, Crater, and Gates or Roe, how do you convince one of the three that yes, someone will leave early and there will be a scholarship available. For example, say Buford and Gates verbal and that makes numbers 12 and 13 for the scholarsip count. What does the staff tell a Crater or someone else?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:37:37 PM)
I don't think it's hard to convince them that someone like Greg Oden will be gone after a couple of years. No matter how much he were to say otherwise, most people struggle to believe he will stay beyond one season.

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:38:24 PM)
The real predicament here is if for some reason Greg Oden went to Thad Matta after two years and said he wants to stay a third year.... that would be an interesting problem to have

Ytownridah (Jul 18, 2006 12:38:35 PM)
Is OJ Mayo a lock for USC or does OSU still have a chance or does OSU even want him?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:39:24 PM)
Mayo is definitely not a lock anywhere. It seems Ohio State has decided to go in a different direction, but they would take him if he wanted to go to Ohio State, knowing it would only be for one season and they would have a scholarship available for next year anyhow.

rbuck (Jul 18, 2006 12:39:34 PM)
With OSU's almost guaranteed success in the next couple of years, which coaches do you see moving on first? Groce first then Major?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:40:32 PM)
John Groce will almost assuredly get his chance as a head coach. I expect him to be offered some good jobs in the next year or two. It's a matter of when he would like to take that next step in his career.

rbuck (Jul 18, 2006 12:40:59 PM)
Is it a possibility of oden playing with a soft cast? If there is no risk of reinjury, he doesn't need to score! He can change the game so much just being on the floor.

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:41:31 PM)
I'm sure there's a chance of that, but it's tough to predict the exact dynamic of the injury later this year and what he will be able to do and not do, as well as when.

keato (Jul 18, 2006 12:41:41 PM)
Kyle, from your post above about Mullens vs Lauderdale what is up with Dallas he went from top 30 to # 100 in rankings is thier reason for concern?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:43:20 PM)
Look at it like this: when he was ranked No. 30... as with a lot of other prospects at that time of their careers, it was based more on potential. Over the last year, he has probably not played very well, especially in some key challenges, but now that some of these kids have begun living up to their potential, Lauderdale did not and consequently fell in the rankings. College coaches and recruiting analysts still feel he could be a very good player in 2-3 years with that physique, so give him some time

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:45:12 PM)
By the way, we're about caught up on questions... so if you have anything else to ask as I take these next few, now is a good time to ask

mike4180 (Jul 18, 2006 12:45:37 PM)
Even though I think Tyus is a very good player. I was so excited when Turner committed. Who would you compare his (Turner) game to?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:46:19 PM)
This comparison probably is not as good as the Dante Jackson comparison, but from a Buckeye standpoint, I can see a lot of Brian Brown in Evan Turner

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:46:48 PM)
Turner is a very smart player and a great defender. He can score off the dribble and needs to work on his jumper. Good ball handler for his position, as well.

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:46:58 PM)
Turner will be a popular player in Columbus, I believe

keato (Jul 18, 2006 12:47:12 PM)
Kyle, any news to report on Dante Jackson or Alex Kellogg?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:48:02 PM)
Dante appears to be favoring Xavier. I think Michigan may still be involved. As far as Kellogg, he will probably end up in the MAC. If he were just a few inches taller or had range about 5-7 feet further out, we would be talking high major for Alex

JoJoBuck (Jul 18, 2006 12:48:13 PM)
How does Crater compare with Conley and who do you feel has more upside?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:50:07 PM)
That's like comparing a ferrari to a jaguar. I'd take either! Really tough to say. They're both good defenders, although Conley is probably the more consistent. They're both good ball-handlers, although I give the edge to Conley in that department as well. Crater may have a smaller upside because of his ability to score from the outside when he uses it, but I have a hard time saying either player has a better upside. I think they both will have excellent careers

Byars (Jul 18, 2006 12:50:20 PM)
Who are going to be the top 3 points-per-game leaders next year? How many?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:51:04 PM)
I'm guessing Jamar Butler and Daequan Cook will lead the team in 3-pointers. I see Butler shooting about 45 percent from 3-point range next year and Cook around 42 percent

rbuck (Jul 18, 2006 12:51:20 PM)
Will Dante Jackson play Basetball or Football? Last I read that is if OSU offers in football he would take it, what do you think?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:52:09 PM)
If Ohio State offers a football scholarship, I do believe he would take it and try to play both sports. Dante's biggest problem is that I think he doesn't know what he wants, any more. He may have gotten focused on getting one thing, and since it didn't come, he didn't have a good contigency

osuhoops1 (Jul 18, 2006 12:52:23 PM)
I feel that the staff is beginning to take a lot of tall wing players. Cook, Lighty, Turner, Diebler, Koufus. They are heavily on Buford, will this be a consistant thing for the staff? Tall, lanky guards.

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:53:31 PM)
The Ohio State staff loves players that can shoot, that can defend and also that can beat people off the dribble. I'm not sure they favor lanky guards as much as these kids simply have amazing talent. William Buford reminds me a lot of Daequan Cook offensively at that age, although he doesn't have the mid-range but he's catching up.

mike4180 (Jul 18, 2006 12:53:53 PM)
Kyle are you allow to do interviews with the players already on the team like Butler or Cook . Or is that a no no with Coach Matta.

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:54:33 PM)
Technically, once they arrive on campus, interviews are supposed to be done through the athletic department. It can be done, although Ohio State is very guarded about who is interviewed and when.

ohs (Jul 18, 2006 12:54:52 PM)
who of the recruits in 07-09 will emerge out of "no where" like Anderson Russell in football and be really good in basketball?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:56:53 PM)
So far, every 2007 or 2008 recruit we've talked about is ranked in the top 100 and most of them is in the top 50, so I don't think the opportunity will be there for anyone to come out of nowhere. But the guys that probably get the least bit of attention right now are Jon Diebler and Walter Offutt because of his injury. I think Diebler is really playing terfiffic basketball and he seems to do better around better players and against better competition. Offutt is a kid that is really smooth, very athletic and has a very high upside

Byars (Jul 18, 2006 12:57:11 PM)
Matta has a rep for 4 around the arc and 1 underneath. With all the height OSU has been committing, is that likely to change?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:58:31 PM)
Same philosophy, but there will be the opportunity to play different styles against different teams. Last year the biggest knock was that Ohio State could only play one style of basketball and when it wasn't working, you saw a very flat basketball team. I think in the future, he would still like to play the 4-out 1-in philosophy, bu the has a lot of guys that can give them different looks. They can go 4-guards, they can go 2-posts... high-low, Princeton, pretty much any style they want

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 12:59:22 PM)
We have fielded a lot of Mayo questions. I've answered at least two or three so far, so for those that haven't been able to get their questions in about Mayo, we will try to post the chat transcript where you can read up later on him if you missed those answers!

rbuck (Jul 18, 2006 12:59:33 PM)
Do you have any insight as to where Ben Martin ens up? Along those same lines, I saw him play basketball last year (very athletic), but there was a young kid on that team, I think McElroy?? Do you know anything about him?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 1:01:15 PM)
In the end, I think Martin could choose Ohio State. Nevada, Duane or Gary may have better insight and are paying a little closer attention, but the people I talk to that have knowledge on La Salle and Martin's situation seem to indicate he loves Ohio State and Notre Dame both, but in the end, if his mother feels good about Ohio State, they could win out. Danny McElroy is a 6-6 PF from La Salle in the class of 2009. He's reportedly a very good athlete and very strong, but he is undersized and needs to work on his perimeter skills a bit more.

osuhoops1 (Jul 18, 2006 1:01:30 PM)
Until Oden returns, it is Terwilliger, Harris, and Hunter as our post players. Is it realistic to say that a guard such as Lewis or Cook could actually be leading this team in rebounds until Oden gets healthy?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 1:02:39 PM)
It's very realistic to say that. I still think Hunter is capable of providing 6.5-8 rebounds a game, however. It will be tough to tell. Hunter will be on campus beginning in about September, so hopefully we'll get a better feel for him as he gets to Ohio State. Cook and Lighty both are very good rebounders for being guards, however

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 1:03:11 PM)
I've got time for about 2-3 more questions!

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 1:04:03 PM)

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 1:04:39 PM)
OK, I'll bite one more time... haha

Ytownridah (Jul 18, 2006 1:04:41 PM)
DO we get or want Mayo

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 1:05:03 PM)
Does Ohio State get Mayo? Probably not. Would they take him? If he wanted to go there, yes, I believe they would

gulfbuck (Jul 18, 2006 1:05:23 PM)
Any football players to help the depth?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 1:06:13 PM)
I don't know of any that plan to play both ways. Even if they did, they wouldn't be there until January so the depth would be the same until then, and they wouldn't likely be ready to contribute until late in the season if at all, so they would be relegated to practice bodies

ongshot (Jul 18, 2006 1:06:20 PM)
how would you compare turner to lighty?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 1:06:52 PM)
Lighty is bigger, stronger and more explosive, but Turner is probably slightly more skilled and better as a perimeter defender as of this time.

rbuck (Jul 18, 2006 1:06:56 PM)
Is Hunter definitely going to be here?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 1:07:05 PM)
Yes, I do not see any reason to worry about that

mike4180 (Jul 18, 2006 1:07:12 PM)
Any other recruiting Names in 2008 that we should keep an eye on besides the 5 being mentioned?

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 1:08:14 PM)
Right now, those are the guys to watch. Ohio State has seemingly focused on those players for now and are trying hard to put together that very recruiting class mentioned. Remember the Jerry Maguire movie starring Tom Cruise? Less clients, more attention? That's the philosophy being employed by Matta with the 2008 class right now

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 1:09:41 PM)
Well, that wraps it up for us today. We'll try to get a transcript posted ASAP.

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 1:09:55 PM)
Until then, thanks for joining me and we'll do it again sometime very soon!

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 1:10:19 PM)
Thanks for stopping by and sorry for the problems we had earlier

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 18, 2006 1:10:22 PM)
Take care :)

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