Helwagen Chat: July 21 Archive

Here are excerpts from Friday's Chat session with Bucknuts.com managing editor Steve Helwagen. He conducts these Chats on a regular basis for Bucknuts.com subscribers. Stay tuned for the Chat schedule for the upcoming week.

platinum5 (Jul 21, 2006 10:22:49 AM)
Although Sclegel was a good player, with Pitcock and Patterson as DTs, do you think playing MLB for Ohio State will be relatively easy? I can imagine that Kerr would find it much easier than when he played for IU.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:28:02 AM)
This is a very valid point. I saw that first-hand 10 years ago with the way Andy Katzenmoyer played behind Fickell and Garnett, then how he struggled the next couple of years when the line went really young. They don't need an Andy K or a Matt Wilhelm in the middle. They need a guy who makes plays when he is in position to make them and helps contain the run. Teams will try and gash OSU by running at them. The MLB must be stout and keep those to 1- and 2-yard gains.

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 21, 2006 10:28:18 AM)
Steve, a question we've been getting a few times in chat and the basketball board... from the football side of things, any possible players that may double-dip this season and walk on to the basketball team after the season is over with? It appears Thad Matta could use some practice bodies (ha ha)

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:29:54 AM)
I have heard nothing to substantiate that anybody on the football team would join the basketball squad. It seems like a good idea to have athletes to practice against and maybe Matta and Tressel will discuss it. But the football guys also like a break for a week or 2 after the bowl game before they begin the intensive winter program, which is sport-specific for football. It would be nice, but my guess is Matta will find practice players from the student body.

kleintime16 (Jul 21, 2006 10:31:50 AM)
What's the deal with the updated roster? Are Welch, Underwood and Jordan no longer on the team?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:33:05 AM)
Jordan, I believe, finally got the injury waiver. We had some intelligence a few weeks back that Welch and Underwood were done, but could never get it confirmed. Their exclusion from the roster is very telling. Looks like they are done. My guess is OSU may use 1-2 extra scholarships this year, but may save the rest for next year when there are only 12-13 seniors.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:33:21 AM)
Tressel will probably speak on this a week from Tuesday in Chicago.

azbuck (Jul 21, 2006 10:34:12 AM)
What is your take on Josh Brent? Nevada says were in real good shape there. What have you heard?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:36:00 AM)
Yes, I think Ohio State, with Dick Tressel likely leading the charge, is working harder in Illinois to do more there. Brent, at 6-3, 300, would fill an obvious need at DT. Brent lists offers from much of the Big Ten and Missouri. He is an active guy who had over 100 tackles last year at end. That's pretty good. He was in during the camp. Key may be the visit, though. We shall see.

Kyle S. Lamb (Jul 21, 2006 10:36:06 AM)
How seriously do you suppose Dante Jackson is being touted as a football prospect by Tressel and his staff? It's almost as if the absence of a basketball offer from Ohio State, Michigan running out of room for him now and the void of playing in major tournaments to garner further high-major interest has him unsure of what he wants on the hardwood.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:37:21 AM)
Probably not that serious for him and OSU football. They had him and Sanzenbacher and others at camp and they offered Sanzenbacher as a receiver first. Talk that Saine could be a WR down the line, too, although he maintains he was recruited as an RB. I think Jackson comes down to Xavier and Dayton for basketball. He will be a steal for one of those programs, in my opinion. Great kid and a great talent.

kleintime16 (Jul 21, 2006 10:37:30 AM)
The weekly Ben Martin question, heard anything new?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:38:59 AM)
Dave interviewed him after the visit and it seemed like the visit to OSU last weekend went well. He came away with a very high opinion of Jim Tressel, it sounded. That's good to hear. Probably 55-45 in OSU's favor, but that is strictly a guess ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:39:26 AM)
Heacock, Peterson and Lichter also participated in that visit. Says he wants to take 3 visits and decide after the season ends, maybe in Dec.

ohs (Jul 21, 2006 10:39:54 AM)
who starts at OL, DB and LB for the Michigan game?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:41:55 AM)
I will go with the listed starters on the OL -- Boone, Schafer, Datish, Downing and Barton. At DB, I think maybe O'Neal, Russell, Jenkins and anybody's guess (maybe Washington). At LB, Homan and Freeman outside and Laurinaitis inside. If D'Andrea is healthy, then he would be inside and 2 of those 3 would be at OLB.

ohs (Jul 21, 2006 10:42:11 AM)
Seems like this current class not likely in top 10 nationally? What do you think?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:43:21 AM)
Probably not, but there is time. I think there are some blue chippers who can move the needle like Martin and Clifford and several others. They have gotten guys some might say are role players, but the staff believes they can be front-line guys or they would not have taken them so early. Plus, class size (still in 18-19 range) may work against the ranking slightly.

ohs (Jul 21, 2006 10:43:34 AM)
So glad Small is in. Would like to see him redshirt for his own good.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:44:10 AM)
I don't know. You want him to be grounded academically, certainly. I think he can make an impact as a returner this year and maybe on offense as well. I bet he gets a shot.

kleintime16 (Jul 21, 2006 10:44:23 AM)
What have you heard about a home and home with Tennessee in 2013-14, OSU is already playing CAL and Va Tech in those years, seems like a pretty tough OOC schedule

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:46:33 AM)
Somebody on our board said they heard that from somebody that works at Tennessee. OSU has not done a lot of scheduling with SEC schools. For starters, SEC schools play on CBS. ABC wanted Big Ten schools to schedule nonconf with "their" leagues (ACC, Big East, Big 12 and Pac-10), so this kind of runs counter to that. And as you said, OSU had tentative deals, at least, with Cal and VT in those years. My impression was they didn't want 2 marquee games in the same season. They want it set up so they play 1 prime opponent every year and alternate between having 7 and 8 home games each year. Makes sense financially.

platinum5 (Jul 21, 2006 10:46:41 AM)
OSU has a bad record in night away games: Losses against Northwestern (which was I believe a 6=6 team that year--and only 6-6 because of several overtime wins) and Wisconsin (which, I believe, went on to lose all but one of the rest of their games) were quite galling. How do you think the current staff rates in terms of preparing teams to play on the road? How could they improve? My view is that, in the past, teams didn't have to fear being blown out. Opposing coaches didn't say that they would hope to be in it in the fourth quarter and then see what happens--they knew they would be in it in the fourth quarter (unless they were Indiana).

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:48:48 AM)
This staff was knocked for its road record. They had not beaten a ranked team on the road from the 2001 Michigan game until they beat Minnesota this past year. They finished strong with road wins at Minnesota, Indiana and Michigan, so they're on a winning streak on the road. Their past problems are a matter of public record, though. They haven't won a road night game in I don't know how long (maybe back to Arizona in 2000, and they were terrible). And they have 2 of them this year. I'm on record, I'm not sure how they do it.

JimC (Jul 21, 2006 10:49:27 AM)
Hi Steve, What are the first impressions of the new Strength Coach? He seems pretty intense.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:50:32 AM)
That's what everybody is saying. I have not met him. I was going to try and meet him during the camp and he wasn't there that day. I'm sure I'll touch base with him at some point. But all indications are good so far.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:51:06 AM)
Hello everyone. As a reminder this is a moderated Chat. Some of you may be here for the first time. All messages come to me and I post the questions, then answer them and move on to the next, like ...

calibuck (Jul 21, 2006 10:51:11 AM)
What are the chances of the awesome 2008 OL in Ohio commiting early??

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:52:05 AM)
I think pretty good. Mike Adams from Dublin Coffman told me he wanted to end it early and I think he favors Ohio State. He could be a real good one. Even plays LT and wears No. 75. He would have been in 1st grade when Pace was killing people at OSU, not to draw that comparison too far ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:52:42 AM)
Also have Zebrie Sanders, a big raw-boned athletic kid from Clayton Northmont. Not sure if he wants to end it early, but OSU knows about him.

TheKaiser21 (Jul 21, 2006 10:52:50 AM)
You could compare him to Boone

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:53:24 AM)
Adams? Possibly. He is a big kid. He has the size and he moves well. He played reasonably well as a soph, I am told. They said watch out when he knows what he's supposed to be doing.

ohs (Jul 21, 2006 10:53:35 AM)
who would you take Evan B. or last yrs Joe Thomas at OL?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:54:22 AM)
I don't know. Similar type kid, I guess. Funny how it was OSU or Pitt for both of them. Evan, then, of course (ha ha). The staff saw something in Evan to offer him and then to want him as much or more after the camp was telling as well.

ohs (Jul 21, 2006 10:54:26 AM)
will Spitler see the field at all this yr?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:54:48 AM)
Probably on special teams. Tressel has noted how hard a worker he is. He is just a 2nd-year guy, so stay patient with him.

ohs (Jul 21, 2006 10:55:05 AM)
how many total OLs do we take this year and who?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:55:54 AM)
I would have thought 3. I bet if they can get Claytor and O'Dowd to go with Blankenship they will be so happy. Maybe it's just 2 with the knowledge that the great OL class is still to come. Have to think they are less than 50 percent on Claytor and O

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:55:59 AM)
O'Dowd anyway.

ohs (Jul 21, 2006 10:56:04 AM)
are you excited about 08 OL instate?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:56:46 AM)
Yes, we touched on it. But you have Mike Adams at Coffman, Zebrie Sanders at Northmont and Reggie Comeaux at Massillon. Those seem to be the big 3.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:56:57 AM)
Duane thinks it is a great year for OL.

Guest (Jul 21, 2006 10:57:03 AM)
If Smith falters at CB who gets first chance to step up?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:57:30 AM)
Tim asks about who would step up if Smith falters at CB ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:57:47 AM)
Probably Washington, then Amos, then Coleman. They are all tightly bunched.

platinum5 (Jul 21, 2006 10:57:52 AM)
What do you hear about the health of the coaching staff?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:58:34 AM)
Not a peep. I imagine this is something Coach Tressel will address Aug. 1 when he appears in Chicago. My assumption is everything is status quo and they'll do the best they can to get through it.

BigExpectations! (Jul 21, 2006 10:58:42 AM)
Staying with the S & C program....everything we read sounds impressive. Isn't every school doing something similiar to this? Or is OSU unique and a step above everyone else?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 10:59:19 AM)
I assume these training techniques are not exclusive to Ohio State. I guess we'll have to see what results come out of it.

calibuck (Jul 21, 2006 11:01:05 AM)
What are the chances with Hankerson and Wright?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:01:49 AM)
Wright attended the Cris Carter speed school, which is good. He has a great list of OSU, Florida, Georgia, Miami, USC and Notre Dame. Again, key will be scheduling a visit ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:03:05 AM)
Hankerson also from St. Thomas Aquinas said Georgia is a slight fave over Miami, OSU (both offered), USC, Florida and Michigan (offered). I like him he is a big receiver.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:03:27 AM)
Again, get them to visit together and have the Fla. guys (whoever is left from that posse) go to work.

calibuck (Jul 21, 2006 11:03:40 AM)
Small to redshirt??

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:03:56 AM)
No, I don't think so. He's a special athlete with the football.

whio (Jul 21, 2006 11:04:05 AM)
Hi Steve, how concerned should we be with MSU as a trap door game. Stanton played a pretty amazing game against a veteran OSU D at our place last year. I've gotta lot of respect for the guy after that, and the've got some talent. They seem to play up or down to the competition. Also John L's back will probably be to the wall by then. I do like that they're coming of Mich and we're coming off of BGSU.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:05:25 AM)
Very concerned. They had OSU beaten there 2 years ago until Ted had the long catch-and-run TD with like 1:30 left. Stanton can play. Playing at Michigan will probably only get them up higher to atone (conceding they likely lose at Ann Arbor). It will be a tough game.

TheKaiser21 (Jul 21, 2006 11:06:24 AM)
Howie Long, Duane and Nevada said we lead for him too

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:06:36 AM)
I have no info on him, sorry.

platinum5 (Jul 21, 2006 11:06:43 AM)
Was Jim Herman replaced at Michigan? If so, I would suspect Tressel would be sad.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:07:13 AM)
Yes, Carr has 2 new coordinators. DeBord on offense and English, I believe, on defense. Change was probably 2 years overdue, especially on defense.

kleintime16 (Jul 21, 2006 11:07:23 AM)
With OSU not targeting a QB in this class the staff has illustrated that it is simply not worth a schollie, do they have their eyes on anyone in particular in 08?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:07:52 AM)
Man, that is a great question. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:08:13 AM)
Trotwood-Madison has a guy named Dominique Britt who is 6-5, 190, kind of like an Arvell Nelson. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:08:52 AM)
Beyond him, I think it's too early to say anybody at Ohio is at that level.

Guest (Jul 21, 2006 11:09:06 AM)
what is your guess on the 2-deep at linebacker when the season starts?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:09:19 AM)
ramrod asks about the 2-deep at LB as the season starts ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:10:04 AM)
Probably about where it is now with Freeman and Homan at WLB, Kerr and D'Andrea (health pending) and Spitler and Hoobler all at MLB and Laurinaitis and Terry at SLB.

TheKaiser21 (Jul 21, 2006 11:10:14 AM)
Do you think Taurian Washington will see an offer before it's all said and done? And why haven't we been all over Toney Clemons? Seem like quality receivers.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:12:10 AM)
You make a valid point. Washington was at camp and Clemons was in for the spring game, so they know all about them. I wonder if academics could be a factor for Clemons. Not sure what is holding them up. Clemons said Pitt and Michigan have offered. Washington said Michigan, Wisconsin and MSU had offered him.

hh (Jul 21, 2006 11:12:24 AM)
That Carter guy is also Wright's coach at St. Thomas. They both would like to go to the same school.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:13:31 AM)
Great point. Carter can keep a bug in their ear about OSU. Again, the visit is the biggest thing. It all sounds good in principle, but you really have to work to get quality kids from Florida to get on a plane and come north to visit you. In a lot of peoples' minds, there isn't much worthwhile north of Tallahassee.

cjdjbucknuts (Jul 21, 2006 11:13:47 AM)
Who do you think will make All Big 10 and All America this season?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:13:53 AM)
Great question. Hmmm.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:14:38 AM)
All-American is really hard. You rarely see more than 2 on any of the teams. If they play like they're capable, probably Smith, Ginn and Pitcock. Their names are already out there. If 2 of them make A-A, it's been a great year, no doubt ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:15:57 AM)
All-Big Ten, in my book, would be Smith, Pittman, Ginn, Barton, maybe Boone or Downing, Wilson, Pitcock, Freeman, Jenkins. That may be it unless Trapasso or one of the safeties sneaks on there.

texas buckeye (Jul 21, 2006 11:16:06 AM)
Hi Steve, what is the status on D'Andrea and how much playing time do you see Homan having this year?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:17:14 AM)
We have no update on D'Andrea. I have not heard where he's had any more setbacks. My guess is Tressel will provide an update on 8/1. I think his status has a direct reflection on what may happen with Homan. If he can't go, others will need to fill in. If Laurinaitis moves inside, then Homan would start outside I would think. He was impressive in the spring.

ramrod (Jul 21, 2006 11:17:20 AM)
Do you think Larry Grant will be used much this year?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:17:52 AM)
Special teams and maybe in some situations. they have a glut of LBs and seem sold on their top 4 right now (Laurinaitis, Freeman, Kerr and Homan).

Guest (Jul 21, 2006 11:18:04 AM)
I think the player we miss the most this year will be Mangold. Agree?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:18:15 AM)
Byars asks if the player OSU may miss the most will be Mangold ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:19:16 AM)
That is a great observation. Datish has hardly ever seen any action at center. He didn't practice with Smith in the spring because he was hurt. And we're to accept that he'll move right over? I imagine he got a lot of work there in practice last year as Mangold's backup, though, and that's why they have confidence in him.

cjdjbucknuts (Jul 21, 2006 11:19:40 AM)
What do you or Duane think of tOSU recruiting the Sanders kid from Northmont next year?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:20:35 AM)
Saw him at Nike Camp and liked what I saw. Maybe I need to go back and watch more Belton tape and see what Sanders has to offer. But he passes the look test. Probably 6-6 and 270 now.

DantheMan (Jul 21, 2006 11:20:47 AM)
I spoke with a friend who spoke with the new defensive coordinator at UM. He said that Crable beat out Prescott Burgess and it wan't even close. He likes David Harris but he is not tough enough. He tells David "You're a good little player". Query: will UM's defense get tough any time soon like OSU always puts out there?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:22:37 AM)
Hard to believe on Burgess. I'm going through the Michigan game now for Buckeye Grove and he played really well (until the TD at the end). Michigan has lacked that swagger and toughness on D for a few years. It started seeping away slowly after the 97 championship season and has been pretty much lost the last few years. How do you give up a 61-yard run to Gary Russell when Minnesota is backed up and has its backup QB in the game? That is unforgiveable on a Marv Cook (TE that caught the TD pass that fired Earle in 87) kind of level.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:23:01 AM)
Cook was from Iowa, BTW.

texas buckeye (Jul 21, 2006 11:23:06 AM)
Who backs up Kerr if D'Andrea is a no go?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:23:48 AM)
Maybe Laurinaitis slides inside or, if they show they're ready for prime time, it would be Spitler and/or Hoobler (sparked nicely in the spring game for the 2nd year in a row, seems to be a gamer, but maybe practice habits are holding him back).

cjdjbucknuts (Jul 21, 2006 11:23:54 AM)
What is your best guess on redshirt vs playing for incoming freshmen?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:26:08 AM)
Playing -- Beantown Wells, Homan, Small, Rose. Not playing -- Ballard, Miller, Smith, Browning, Moeller, Chekwa, Gant, Henton, Dublin. On the fence -- Mark Johnson, Schwartz, Gibson, Larimore, Olson.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:27:55 AM)
That's my best guesstimate. The first four have the ability to move the needle today. I'd almost put Gibson in there, too. Johnson and Schwartz may help on specials. Larimore could be pressed in because DT is so thin and they need to get him ready for 07. They have 2 FBs already, so Olson would be a good RS candidate. The guys I mention as not playing, maybe Moeller plays on specials as well. Rest, I think, need a year to grow and learn and develop. Smith could probably play a reserve role, but why waste a year with so many OL on scholarship ahead of him?

texas buckeye (Jul 21, 2006 11:28:23 AM)
Has Small been cleared to play this fall?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:28:38 AM)
Yes, he is on the roster and Gary confirmed it with Ginn Sr., I believe.

cjdjbucknuts (Jul 21, 2006 11:28:42 AM)
Steve, other than the 'SHOE, where is best gameday experience in Big Ten?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:28:59 AM)
There are 3 or 4 that stand out, and I have now been to all of them multiple times. ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:29:59 AM)
Penn State is absolutely incredible. I thought that after the blowout loss there in 94. They usually exude class, coming down from the coach (of course) and they are loud and passionate about their Lions. Great environment, tons of history. Great show all the way around. I know some were put off by behavior surrounding last year's night game ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:31:15 AM)
Wisconsin is a half step behind. They don't have the history and tradition but everything about the place just screams "This is Big Ten, smash mouth football." It's loud and it's brash and they drink as hard as any group you'll see. They play Jump Around after the 3rd quarter ends and you think the stadium is going to come apart ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:32:10 AM)
Iowa is also great. Even when they were going 0-8 in the conf in the dark last few days of the Fry regime, they still had the 80,000 bumblebees in the stands. They take it very seriously, and that will be a hornet's nest when OSU goes there on 9/30, mark my words. Only the second night game ever.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:33:21 AM)
Beyond that, MSU has a nice campus and the potential to be pretty good. Just has never had the team to consistently back it up. Purdue was terrible until Tiller got there. Now it's a big deal. Indiana is terrible. I like Minnesota in the dome as a change-up, Northwestern is like going to Wrigley Field in a neighborhood but is almost inaccessible.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:33:42 AM)
Overall, you get a great mix of experiences.

platinum5 (Jul 21, 2006 11:33:50 AM)
Do you think the pass rush will be able to take the heat off the young DBs -- or is that too much to hope for?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:34:53 AM)
Yes, I think the ends will represent because with Rose they have 5 guys for 2 spots and can constantly rotate fresh bodies. I want to see how Heacock does with the new personnel on defense overall, but pressure on the QB should be fairly consistent. OSU will struggle defensively in games when it can't impact the QB.

Guest (Jul 21, 2006 11:35:00 AM)
Late arrival so sorry if this has been covered, but going into Fall practice what are your expectations for Anderson Russell? He sounds like a workout warrior based on the latest interviews with Eric Licther and many people are speaking very highly of him. I feel he is going to be the next "underrated superstar" ala Hawk, Youboty, etc. that JT found.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:35:39 AM)
Agreed on Russell, made plays in the 2 spring scrimmages I saw, needs to be on the field. Great Tressel recruit. Nobody thought much when OSU got him over Duke, but he could be a 3- or 4-year starter.

ramrod (Jul 21, 2006 11:35:46 AM)
Patterson was in front of Mitchell on the spring depth chart. That suprised me with Mitchell's experience. Do you see it staying that way?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:36:35 AM)
Haynes made the comment that Mitchell can lead and line the guys up but he will not play unless he makes plays. It's that simple. production is the bottom line. That will be determined in practice and the scrimmages, I assume. They know they have an experienced guy they can turn to, which is good.

whio (Jul 21, 2006 11:36:47 AM)
Would Haw have had much of a chance of making the two deep had he stayed? The situation can change so quickly with injuries etc., I think he should have been patient. Ja Ja might have seen the field the year after he transferred. Hate to lose that depth.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:38:24 AM)
I think the arrest tainted him in the eyes of the coaches. This is their livelihood and either consciously or subconsciously they decided they were not going to put their trust in him. He ripped off a 70-yard run in the jersey scrimmage and never moved up past Mo Wells, who struggled (at least I thought). Now the company line was that Haw did not master all parts of the game (running, blocking, catching). He could run and it was portrayed that was about all he could do, so now you know what went into that. He saw handwriting on the wall and got out.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:38:33 AM)
Plus Chris Wells is a freaking beast.

Byars (Jul 21, 2006 11:38:41 AM)
After Underwood/Underwood/Adam-Myers-White does anyone in Hamilton ever get offered again? Seriously, Hatcher...any chance?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:39:33 AM)
Well, they're batting .333 at Lakota West (Rehring a hit, Maupin and Chichester not so good) and they still want Solomon Thomas, so you tell me? If they think a guy can help him, they'll take him if he plays HS ball on the moon.

marksgforce (Jul 21, 2006 11:39:56 AM)
What's your view on the one-eyed Big 10 ref?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:41:32 AM)
Seemed a bit heavy-handed. I am fuzzy on the details. I think Dave Parry knew but maybe Delany did not. As I understand it, he was well rated even with one eye. Not sure where Delany was coming from and it's going to litigation so he won't be able to comment in Chicago publicly next week. Perhaps his take was it was a liability issue if he got poked in the good eye and was blinded, he could sue Big Ten then. I honestly don't know ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:42:17 AM)
My personal viewpoint is this is America. If he can get the job done to a satisfactory level with one eye and the proper safeguards are in place (maybe goggles or something), then I say he deserves the spot ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:43:51 AM)
This is also different from the standpoint like all officials he is an independent contractor and not a full-time employee. They could terminate him at any time. I think Big Ten terminated Ted Valentine for a while after the Knight blow-up and he was quoted publicly on it. Ted didn't sue, he took his medicine and they brought him back (naturally, because he's one of the best). This is different because this involves a disability and you have to follow federal guidelines where that is involved.

marksgforce (Jul 21, 2006 11:44:12 AM)
Is there a single position that gives you a cause for concern?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:44:46 AM)
Corner and, to a lesser extent, kicker. I think they have 2 good kickers, but they need one great one to step up and hit the customary 80 percent (we have been spoiled for last 4 years).

Byars (Jul 21, 2006 11:45:20 AM)
Oh, you got to like the home game away from home @ IU

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:45:43 AM)
Yeah, getting there is the challenge. You need to leave Cols. at 3 a.m. for a noon game in Bloomington (ha ha) ... OK, 5 a.m.

cjdjbucknuts (Jul 21, 2006 11:45:51 AM)
Steve, i cant do this Im usually at work but I took day off for this so I am gonna be a pig. What is the Browns record this year? Will LeChuck be the first All-pro since new Browns?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:46:21 AM)
Yes on Bentley and I'll say 8-8. It's on Frye and Soldier and Braylon Baby (my all-time favorite Wolverine now ... ha ha).

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:46:49 AM)
Gotta run, last question right now:

Guest (Jul 21, 2006 11:46:51 AM)
fill in the blank ... OSU makes it to the ______ Bowl Game

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:47:11 AM)
Kleintime asked OSU makes it to the ______ bowl game ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:47:17 AM)
My prediction is ...

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:47:28 AM)
The BCS national championship bowl game.

texas buckeye (Jul 21, 2006 11:47:31 AM)
2005 or 2006 opening team better?

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:47:36 AM)
Tough question.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:48:25 AM)
Complex answer. Probably 2006 because Smith is in the saddle and he wasn't, but the 2005 defense to start the year was infinitely better than the defense we will see on 9/2 vs. NIU.

SteveHelwagen (Jul 21, 2006 11:48:40 AM)
I have to go. It's been fun.

texas buckeye (Jul 21, 2006 11:49:01 AM)
thanks!

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