Hi Steve, Did Washington commit to scUM?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 11:53:32 AM)
I have not heard that. There seem to be rumors coming from UM posters that his flirtation with Ohio State was a ploy to build interest from Michigan. I don't know and can't say. I have seen no public reports that he is a verbal to UM. Scout finally took him off the OSU list, which I think is the correct thing to do when he is quoted as saying he is not officially committed anywhere yet.
Scooter (Aug 4, 2006 11:54:29 AM)
Afternoon Steve! What exactly since getting on campus has Rob Rose done to illicit Quinn Pitcock saying he thinks he should start this year? We all have high hopes for RR and he appears to be a future AA, but fall practice hasn't even started yet! With the development of Wilson, Gholston, etc. the only thing I can say about Rose when I hear stuff like this is "WOW!!!"
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 11:55:21 AM)
Quinn did not say that to me, so I never heard that sentiment. But he came in this summer and impressed people with his size and ability to run. He has to get it done during camp, but it sounds like the 4-man rotation just became 5.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 11:55:26 AM)
You have to like that.
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 11:55:29 AM)
He's a Genetic Freak, ala an Alonzo Spellman
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 11:55:36 AM)
Washington, BS from GBW, or officially Worried?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 11:56:34 AM)
I think Washington would be a nice talent, certainly. But the only thing that gets me truly worried these days are these gas prices. Holy crap. Just let the kid have his space and figure it out. I'm worn out by this one already.
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 11:56:51 AM)
Does the Barksdale, Washington, Allen saga remind you or a group of kids from Maryland that we were in on Last year. Seems very similar
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 11:58:36 AM)
Oh, I don't know. I know Gary believed the one LB from Maryland McCoy last year or year before was coming to OSU. Barksdale just seems to fall in love with the most recent school he sees. He could be undecided for a while if that's the case. Allen, I wasn't aware of a saga there yet. I know he really likes Michigan, FSU, OSU and Notre Dame.
shoefan (Aug 4, 2006 11:58:48 AM)
Steve, is there a difference between a walk-on and a preferred walk on player?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 11:59:40 AM)
Yes, the preferred walk-ons are invited to have a spot, usually in the preseason camp 105. The other walk-ons may try out in the spring or be invited in after the first game, when the squad size can swell beyond 105.
redondo (Aug 4, 2006 11:59:45 AM)
Hi Steve - USC's first game is the same day as OSU's, why have they started practice already - in other words can you explain the philosophy of JT relative to the number of proactices allowed and how he allocates days off compared ot some other programs? Thank you.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:00:33 PM)
The NCAA changed the preseason camp rules a few years ago and I'm sorry, but I have not researched the issue to give you a definitive answer as to the whys and wherefors for why one school has started and another has not. ...
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:01:45 PM)
I know they went away from 2-a-days on back-to-back days, meaning they had to spread camp out. That's why it went from 3 weeks in the old days to 4 now. I assume USC is going to have the same number of practice days or whatever OSU will have going into the game (whatever the rule is). But they have just chosen to spread them over an extra few days. Maybe that explains it.
BuckeyesRule (Aug 4, 2006 12:01:50 PM)
Steve, my godson just left my house while visiting from Stanford where he plays running back..........they don't report until Sunday, with practices starting Monday........
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:02:06 PM)
That's pretty much the same here at OSU. Report Sunday and first practice Monday.
BuckeyesRule (Aug 4, 2006 12:02:23 PM)
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 12:02:26 PM)
Has USC's smoke and Fire been swept under the rug, or where there be some sort of penalty to come. I just saw one of their safeties tested positive for Steroids. Doesn't sound like the NCAA is breathing down their neck like they were with the Clarett situation. For god's sake, the Bush family was living in a 600,000$ house his senior year.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:04:23 PM)
I imagine there will be something coming out of that situation. The NCAA, as they did with Clarett, could rule no penalty on USC because they didn't know what the family was doing. Maybe Bush gets declared ineligible. Does that then extend to USC's season and its Pac-10 title? I don't know. I'm sure it will all be probed. Like we saw with Boban, etc., it takes time to get to the bottom of it.
GoBucks (Aug 4, 2006 12:04:44 PM)
McCoy was two years ago and Navarro Bowman was last year.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:04:52 PM)
That's right. My bad. Thanks for the correction.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 12:04:55 PM)
What news if any is there on the Ben Martin front?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:05:44 PM)
It has been quiet. I know I will be down for Ben's first game and maybe at that point he'll have something to say about where things stand. I know it was OSU and ND in front with Michigan, Fla. and Tenn. all right there as well at one point recently.
westonbuckeye (Aug 4, 2006 12:05:53 PM)
We are pre seaon #1...and play in a BCS bowl almost every year..but we still see OOS recruits not showing great interest or coming in 2nd for them..what gives? Why isnt everyone rushing to come in?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:07:14 PM)
I can't explain it. You'd think every top 50 guy would have OSU in their sights, like most of them now have USC, Texas and Notre Dame. It used to be Miami and FSU were the hot schools. Not so much any more, though. Rest assured, OSU is signing kids they think they can win with and signing kids they think can be good student-athletes as well. That pays off on the end.
JimC (Aug 4, 2006 12:07:39 PM)
Any news on the home and away with the Sooners? Sounds like a nice matchup.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:08:15 PM)
I heard maybe 2016-17. They have USC in 08-09 and Miami in 10-11 and VT sometime after that, so it fits in nicely down the line there.
shoefan (Aug 4, 2006 12:08:21 PM)
Have you heard any word on how Eric Haw is going to fit in with his new team? Has anyone talked to him?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:09:08 PM)
No, have not spoken with Erik. I wish him the best. I think he was a pretty good kid. Just got mixed up in some stuff and never recovered from it. The coaches certainly did not seem to trust him much in the spring.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 12:10:07 PM)
Who would you rather have Dionte Allen or Devon Torrence? I know both!
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:11:23 PM)
Allen is 13th at corner and Torrence is 14th at safety. I guess if Allen is a great corner, maybe the corner. That is a harder position to play. (Bill Greene, don't shoot me ... ha ha.) But Torrence has the potential to be a great one as well and it sounds like OSU has a solid lead for his services. So I'll instead go with the bird in hand.
section22 (Aug 4, 2006 12:11:31 PM)
What happens if Coach Bollman and/or Coach Daniels can't work this year, can the school hire replacements?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:13:48 PM)
I think the coach must take a leave of absence to get a full-time replacement. I heard the NCAA was not "playing ball" and allowing someone to fill in for Daniels on a part-time basis when he can't be there. Their stand fast rule is either you are full-time or you're not. It's a tough situation for Ohio State, no doubt. Bollman sounds like he is full-time anyway, so, unless he has a setback, there seems to be no issue there. Unless Daniels takes a leave of absence (and that does not sound like it's going to happen unless his recovery from chemo takes a bad turn), then they will be working short-handed some days in camp.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 12:14:16 PM)
O'Dowd, Anthony Davis, and Nick Clayton... any chance on any of these guys?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:15:45 PM)
Yeah, probably around 25-30 percent on each. As I harp each week, OSU will be in the ballgame if they get those guys in for a game week visit (maybe PSU or Michigan would be good ones). Also depends on the players' playing schedules at their HS. If they get them in for a visit, I'd upgrade it to closer to 50 percent because they will certainly marvel at what they see. Hardly anybody can match that spectacle and OSU needs OL, I believe anyway.
Byars (Aug 4, 2006 12:16:02 PM)
Is it because I am too close to the situation or is it True that an OSU minor infraction get more pub than a major infraction at say USC, Tenn, Miami, Auburn? I admit, this OU thing is getting attention.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:17:27 PM)
Yes, we're all too close to make any kind of rational statement about coverage of these incidents. I don't think ESPN had a vendetta then and I don't think anything that has happened to players at other schools has been swept under the rug. When you when the NC, it comes with the territory. USC has had a terrible off-season. That is for sure.
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 12:18:22 PM)
What was the deal with the Clay fiasco, and does that hold any water? Seems he was a Wisky lock as of 2 weeks ago.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:19:23 PM)
Not sure. I called the house and the sister said he had not committed anywhere yet. I think Wisconsin, Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, OSU and Tennessee are all in the running still. That was my impression. UW needs a back. I'd be surprised if he leaves the state.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:19:40 PM)
He can be a star there. He'd have to sift through Beantown, Saine and Herron at OSU.
redondo (Aug 4, 2006 12:19:45 PM)
Steve - Do you think there will come a day when the UM-OSU gets pushed too later in the year? I just can't see the Buckeyes playing 12 straight weeks year-in and year-out when other teams will juggle the schedule to create byes.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:20:45 PM)
That may happen. The Big Ten wants its schedule done by the weekend before Thanksgiving. But NCAA won't let anybody start playing before Labor Day weekend. So to get it done, most years they have to play 12 straight weeks. The coaches don't like it. ...
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:22:00 PM)
The only solutions are to draft NCAA legislation to stretch the season a week earlier to late Aug. or give up the Thanksgiving moratorium and play OSU-Um and the other last week games in the conference that weekend. I think ABC likes it the way it is because OSU-Michigan is a marquee game that third weekend in Nov. and then the other rivalry games fit in nicely over Thanksgiving weekend.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 12:22:19 PM)
I don't see us getting Barksdale now that he is talking about Texas. Is Jeremiah a decent second best?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:23:53 PM)
Yeah, I think so. Jeremiah is a big boy at 6-5 and 270. But Barksdale is already a BIG boy at 6-5, 315. He's probably closer to being ready to go as a Big Ten DT. Jeremiah has the makings of being a nice player. I have nothing bad to say about him. I think if his marks come through he is a Buckeye.
Hersh (Aug 4, 2006 12:24:37 PM)
Any chance we offer Clay Belton?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:25:58 PM)
It seems unlikely. It is weird, but they seem committed to playing 2007 with just 3 QBs (Boeckman, Schoenhoft and Henton). Duke, Kansas State, Cincinnati and BGSU remain the leaders. But if Belton has another good year, maybe some more BCS schools will perk up. Opinions are mixed on him. I want to see how he does this year.
Guest (Aug 4, 2006 12:26:02 PM)
besides Freeman and Jenkins who else we expect to step up for are D
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:26:21 PM)
buckeyeguy asks besides Freeman and Jenkins who else we should expect to see step up on defense ...
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:26:32 PM)
Good question ...
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:27:04 PM)
I like Lawrence Wilson and Alex Barrow at end. I like Ross Homan to squeeze in there somehow at LB. And I like O'Neal and Russell at the safety spots.
tflo (Aug 4, 2006 12:27:07 PM)
On the Bucknut commit page, why aren't the 40 yd dash times listed for Saine, Evege, or Sanzenbacher?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:27:59 PM)
Somebody just hasn't filled out the form all the way. My guess is Saine and Evege are each legit 4.4 guys, if not faster. Sanzenbacher is probably a 4.6 or high 4.5 guy, but as Tressel would say, "he plays fast."
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 12:28:53 PM)
What is the story with Devon Still? Where did he come from, what is his connection to OSU?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:30:15 PM)
He's from Wilmington, Del., my guess is OSU's push to get more involved in the D.C. area and Maryland led somebody to Delaware. He has some great offers and listed OSU, Michigan, Miami and PSU as his top 4. UM was the leader at the last check. 6-5, 250-pound OL-DE getting most looks as a DE.
redondo (Aug 4, 2006 12:30:22 PM)
Steve - Following up on Eric Haw, when a player decides to transfer how do the options of where to go get targeted? Does the staff point the player to places where they have connecions?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:31:37 PM)
Yes, sometimes. The school may say we will approve your transfer, but not to anybody we play. If the kid is leaving on good terms, it is just good form to make a phone call or 2 to try and get them placed. Not sure what it says when this kid wanted UCLA or Pitt and ended up at I-AA Jackson State.
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 12:31:55 PM)
I know I've asked this before, but is Martin the one guy that could open the flood gates as far as the Bigger name recruits that are on the fence. Seems like a kid that high profile recruits would one to play with.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:32:56 PM)
Martin would be big in Ohio, like Wells was last year or Oden is for bkb. He's a name everybody recognizes. It would be huge to beat ND and UM for him as well. He seems to be a charismatic kid and could help them around Cincinnati if there were any good players or borderline cases there.
shoefan (Aug 4, 2006 12:33:02 PM)
Do you know of any good holes in the practice fence for next week?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:33:13 PM)
No, they have that thing locked down tighter than a drum.
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 12:33:26 PM)
When is the AA game rosters announced, and do you have any insight on possible Buckeyes that will be at the game? Think that is a huge recruiting week if you get enough players from the same team on the roster.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:35:17 PM)
They start announcing those players piecemeal in October through Nov. Of the verbals, maybe Saine and Herron and Oliver have a chance. Of guys not committed, probably Martin and Clifford in Ohio. Maybe Peake because Scout loves him, too. It is so early to say. I know Scout has some say, but so does Tom Lemming.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 12:35:29 PM)
I can't undestand why OSU is not able to get any big time blue chip QBs. I guess Zwick was the closest we have had in quite a while... why can't we get the top 5-10 QBs?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:39:21 PM)
Duane wrote an article for Ohio High saying look at recruiting lists from 5 years ago. The blue chip LBs and DBs and DEs and some other positions are all either college stars or NFL draft picks. But nobody seems to have a handle on how to project who will be a star at QB. Those recruiting lists are off. You don't need an HS star. You need a kid who will run your offense, limit turnovers and Troy's case, be something special and have that ability to run and pass. Sometimes the unheralded guy who comes in and works his tail off turns out to be the winner. Quinn was highly regarded and he has delivered on that promise. Duane's point is the batting average of correctly rating those top 5-10 QBs is pretty low, from his experience.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 12:39:50 PM)
Do we need/take any LBs in this class? If so who?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:41:49 PM)
I look at 4 guys -- 2 with offers and 2 without. The two with are Pa.'s Brandon Lindsey and Maryland's Pat Lazear. I think Lazear still has some legal issues to work through, so hold the phone on him. The two without are Hines and Dewey Elliott (big thick kid). My guess is they will take only one after taking 5 last year. The urgency just isn't there unless he is a great one. I think all of those kids I mentioned have that potential.
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 12:42:07 PM)
Do you think we see Tress play the loyal role to M. Wells and maybe not see Beanie as much as everybody is hoping?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:43:42 PM)
Oh, heavens no. They will play the guy who gives them the best chance to move the chains. They did not recruit Chris Wells for him to watch other guys play. Pittman gets the first crack. But the guy who consistently fulfills the assignments needed at the tailback spot will be the guy. If Chris Wells can limit his fumbles (those are inevitable for a freshman, it seems) and show the ability to get tough yards that Mo and Pitt can't get, he will be in the ballgame. Loyalty is nice ... to a point.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 12:44:06 PM)
Do you see Pittman sticking around for his senior year? I think he takes the $$$$
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:45:19 PM)
I think it depends on what kind of year he has. If his stock is soaring at the end of the year and people think he is a first-round pick, then, yeah, maybe he jumps. But if he is only a first-day guy, then I think he has to think about coming back. Problem is how much does Beans cut into his action?
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 12:45:45 PM)
Who do you see as our starters in the defensive backfield this year?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:46:54 PM)
Jenkins and Smith at the corners and Russell and O'Neal at the safeties. I think Amos and Washington will push Smith and Mitchell and Patterson will push the safeties/play the nickel. Maybe Smith gets displaced at some point.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 12:47:01 PM)
Who will get pressure on the QB from our D-line this year? Sack leader? Will we have a better rush from the line than we did last year?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:48:52 PM)
Yes, the line will be better than last year. You lose a pair of pluggers in Kudla and Greene and gain a ton of athleticism with Richardson, Barrow, Gholston and Wilson. Wilson will be the sack leader. Plus, don't forget Curtis Terry as a rush LB and Freeman coming off the edge, either. Somebody will be getting there. Best bet for OSU opponents will be the three-step drop and test the DBs, who will almost certainly be playing off in read-and-react coverage. If a QB/off. coordinator is content to nickel and dime Ohio State down the field, they may find some success.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 12:49:23 PM)
What kind of year does Brandon Saine have this year? Any chance of Mr. Football?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:50:21 PM)
Sure, I think that race is wide open. He should be on a pretty good team at Piqua, which helps. Their competition is tough, so I doubt you see him have 2,000 yards or anything like that. I have not thought about that award much. I guess I need to give it some thought for 2006.
Byars (Aug 4, 2006 12:50:28 PM)
Looking at our recent history, I didn't think we liked bye weeks?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:50:35 PM)
No, they have not been kind.
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 12:50:44 PM)
What about a Conference Championship game?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:51:42 PM)
Geiger always said they didn't want anything to eclipse the importance of Ohio State-Michigan. They need 12 teams to go to divisions and have a title game anyway. Until they add the 12th team (and ND is the only one they've had a serious thought about, and they won't do it), there will not be a title game.
PASTOR JACK (Aug 4, 2006 12:52:11 PM)
What a difference a couple of years make...Oklahoma has 2 players (that we presently know about) take LARGE sums of cash, and all we hear is how great Bob Stoops handled the situation and what integrity he has. Do you see OU getting 'Buckeyed' by ESPN? Why the disparity in coverage??
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:52:58 PM)
Time will tell if ESPN prolongs this story all season long, like they did with Ohio State. Perhaps they learned that isn't the proper thing to do and they just drop it ...
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:53:51 PM)
Look at USA Today's coverage of OSU being No. 1 today. It's all about "the long road back from the 2002 title and the scandals." That's BS, when we all know it's about Smith, Ginn, Gonzo, Pitt and the way they handed UM and ND their hat at season's end.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 12:54:12 PM)
Why am I not hearing more about Larry Grant? I think this guy has it all, speed, toughness, experience,e etc. Yet, I hear nothing about him. He has to be better than Laurinaitis! I see Freeman, Grant, and Kerr with Homan working in. No?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:55:07 PM)
I think Larry's name will pop up. He's working on a 2-year cycle so he will be pushed into production. I like Laurinaitis. Maybe Grant helps on specials. I think he had a hard time adjusting so quickly in the spring. Maybe the light will be on this fall.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 12:55:21 PM)
How is Doug Worthington coming along? Do we see him on the field? Remember, he came in higher rated than our Lawrence Wilson stud. Can we see him at DT next year?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:56:21 PM)
Hearing that Worthington and Williams will each go easy in camp as their rehab continues. Maybe by midseason one of them pushes into the rotation. Getting 100 percent is job one. No urgency at DE or DT this year. Worthington, in particular, could help them if he moves inside to DT next year. They are woefully thin there.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 12:56:30 PM)
How do you see the CB time working out this year? I see Jenkins and Amos by mid-way thru the season. Can Coleman get on the field?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:57:07 PM)
Jenkins and Smith to start it out and then it will be which guy does the best in practice and mop-up time between Washington, Amos and Coleman. Coleman will be somewhere, at least on specials this year.
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 12:57:13 PM)
Schoenhoft Henton, What more can you ask for at tOSU. Can't remember when the QB situation has been in this good of shape.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:57:58 PM)
This collection of 5 this year is as good as I can remember. The 4 in 2002-03 with Krenzel, McMullen, Smith and Zwick was damn good too. They won games with Scotty Mac.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 12:58:04 PM)
I believe that JT must have faith in Robby S., that is why he is not looking for another QB this year... do you think that could be it?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:58:35 PM)
He earned a lot of praise for the way he played against that great defense in practice every day. That was a baptism for sure. If he truly gave those guys a great look, then so be it.
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 12:58:46 PM)
What did you think of Bob's revised top 100(midwest). And why did chris get FIRED?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 12:59:51 PM)
To be honest, I did not look at it very closely. I trust Bob implicitly with the rankings. I think he and his people will keep us on top of what we need to know now. Chris Pool's situation was a Scout matter. They did not consult me on the whys and wherefors on that one.
boutime (Aug 4, 2006 1:00:04 PM)
I'm late so if this has been covered just ignore. How do you think JT and the players will respond to being ranked #1 in the coaches poll?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:01:00 PM)
Things like that don't bother JT or make him change his plans for the day. I'm sure he'll say it's nice to be recognized and thought well of, but you know you will be a target and now you have to try and back it up. With that early schedule they face, I say, "Good luck with all of that."
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 1:01:32 PM)
You hear so much about Jimmy Claussen(jesus christ) being the second coming. But by looking at his measurables, 6'1 175 nothing jumps out at me. Both his brothers were mediocre at best, and my personal rule is never get caught in a banana hammock on a boat with 2 guy friends. Ha had to get my ND dig in for the day. What makes this kid so special to the "EXPERTS".
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:02:08 PM)
No idea. I have never seen him play other than the ESPN expose on recruiting. We'll see soon what all the hype was about.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 1:02:13 PM)
Can Maurice Wells line up at WR any? It might be nice to have that kind of weapon/system in place for Saine when he gets to Columbus.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:03:19 PM)
Possibly. OSU likes to split its backs. Tressel loves to go 5-wide with the existing personnel -- TBs, TEs and even FBs. Creates mismatches that a good QB can exploit and defense can't get its nickel or dime in (because OSU hasn't run 3 receivers on).
PASTOR JACK (Aug 4, 2006 1:03:34 PM)
In the last 15 years, who would be on your All Star Defensive Line from the Buckeyes?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:03:39 PM)
Large Father ...
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:03:44 PM)
Mike Vrabel ...
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:03:49 PM)
Will Smith ...
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:04:03 PM)
And the last one ... hmmm I have to think. ...
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 1:05:04 PM)
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:05:13 PM)
Yeah, I listed him first (Large Father).
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:05:49 PM)
My last one would be between Spellman (though he barely makes one year of the last 15), Simmons, Fickell, Finkes, Bailey, Anderson, Scott and Pitcock. That's a hard one.
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 1:05:55 PM)
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:06:03 PM)
Nah, only had 1-1/2 really good years.
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 1:06:06 PM)
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:06:12 PM)
Good college player.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:06:30 PM)
Bailey was like a 4-year starter.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:06:51 PM)
This is a hard one. Scott could do so many things.
shoefan (Aug 4, 2006 1:06:54 PM)
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:07:01 PM)
Yep, left him out.
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 1:07:09 PM)
Oh forget about him Good one
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:07:15 PM)
I'll go national title and say Darrion Scott for No. 4.
PASTOR JACK (Aug 4, 2006 1:07:21 PM)
I always wondered if Orlando Pace could have played D-Line...
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:07:48 PM)
Oh yeah, and he did on some goal line situations like against Wisconsin and Dayne in 1996. As I recall, he pushed the play inside to force the stop.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:08:06 PM)
OK, back to the ?? Just a few more.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 1:08:11 PM)
Anderson Russell the real deal? I see him and O'Neal just destroying people this year!
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:08:48 PM)
They have Nick Patterson listed, but Russell always around the ball in the 2 scrimmages I saw in the spring. O'Neal is the real deal, yes. I think it will be Russell and Patterson each playing a lot.
tflo (Aug 4, 2006 1:08:55 PM)
Steve - Have you had a chance to eyeball Andrew Miller (Washington, PA) in practice at all?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:09:34 PM)
Practice doesn't start till next week. Miller will be a TE to start out. I think he's only in the 250 range, so if you're asking if I think he can be an OL, I'd say not for at least 2 years of growth and development.
redondo (Aug 4, 2006 1:09:54 PM)
Steve - Has Fox made any appreciable difference in your view either globally or locally with the site you manage? Anything upcoming we should know about?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:10:32 PM)
I won't lie to you. I think the site publishers are upset about how slow this integration has taken place. I think the people at Scout, themselves, aren't all that pleased either. ...
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:11:32 PM)
This is a complex issue. I read a magazine article where Fox spent $1.5 billion on web properties like myspace.com and whatifsports.com and some other gaming thing and a big message board. Scout seems to be like the freckle on somebody's bottom in all of this. ...
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:14:00 PM)
They tell us to be patient. I think we are seeing some integration of some advertising campaigns among those sites and properties and Scout, which is good. That will help us build revenue so we can keep building. We expected more bells and whistles like a larger commitment to video and things of that nature, and maybe over the next year that will come. ...
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:14:58 PM)
One thing of note: The Dolan Bros. who own the Indians sold FSN Ohio back to Fox and started their own channel, Sports Time Ohio. ...
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:16:41 PM)
So Fox owns FSN Ohio and also, in effect, owns half our site with Scout. One would think they would automatically crosspromote us on FSN Ohio. But it hasn't happened like that. We did some stuff last year at the Fiesta Bowl and on the all-star game and may do some stuff on there this fall. We'll see, but when they air filler ads you'd think there would be a 30-second spot for us in there somewhere, right? Maybe I'm delusional. After all, they own half of our business.
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 1:16:58 PM)
When will they sell the indians?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:17:13 PM)
Ha ha. They need more than that.
shoefan (Aug 4, 2006 1:17:20 PM)
When will the official roster be released?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:17:45 PM)
Check their web site at ohiostatebuckeyes.com they have one on there that is pretty much official for now. It will change a lot over the next 5 weeks.
tflo (Aug 4, 2006 1:17:58 PM)
Steve - Your short bio? Did you play for OSU?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:18:25 PM)
No, I went there, though. Graduated from J-school, worked at some small papers in the state and then at BSB and now I'm here. That's a bio in 2 sentences.
Byars (Aug 4, 2006 1:18:30 PM)
Got the greatest Game ever played like 2 days ago. Nice. Haven't received my first Bucknuts publication? When should I expect that?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:18:51 PM)
You probably will get the Sept. issue which should be in mailboxes any day. Has Pittman on the cover.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:18:59 PM)
Glad you liked the book.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 1:20:31 PM)
Have you heard anything about Freddie Lenix? How is he doing? See him on the field this year?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:21:16 PM)
Lenix is on the UC roster (finally) as a 6-1, 215-pound freshman LB. I wish him nothing but the best. Would be neat to see him out there in week 3 against OSU.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:21:21 PM)
Anything else today?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:22:13 PM)
Remember, Brian Baschnagel Chat on Tuesday at 1 p.m. Eastern. Played from 72-75 (four Big Tens, four Rose Bowls), was a four-year starter at wingback and led the team twice in receptions. Played 10 years with the Bears ...
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:22:45 PM)
I am sure he will be conversant on Woody, those great Michigan games, playing with Archie, playing with the Bears and for Ditka and so on. Check it out.
shoefan (Aug 4, 2006 1:22:48 PM)
will you have any updates regarding practice on sunday?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:23:27 PM)
There is no practice on Sunday. They are just moving in. We will be there and will talk to 4 designated seniors at that time. On Monday, photogs can attend the first few minutes of the first practice.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:23:48 PM)
Any final blasts before I go combat the traffic?
hamiltuckbuck (Aug 4, 2006 1:23:55 PM)
Yeah, but Brian didn't run 4.3. How good could he be?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:23:58 PM)
westonbuckeye (Aug 4, 2006 1:24:01 PM)
Is washington gone to Scum?
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:24:35 PM)
I don't honestly know. Sounds like it's a classic OSU-UM battle all the way.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:25:04 PM)
Our people think he committed to OSU. But I was told he also did likewise to UM a month and a half ago. So buyer beware.
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 1:25:11 PM)
Once practices start can we expect to have more of these chats? We will NEED them, especially those of us in Philly!
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 1:25:14 PM)
I ask so many questions because I am in "enemy" territory (PA) and I don't get my fill like most of you ohio guys!
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:26:03 PM)
Just keep the dial right here and what we know we will share with you. We will have 3-4 Chats a week during the season. Usually, Gary and I do one a week. Biddle, Duane, Kyle and special guests for recruiting, the opponent or Buckeye Legends will be in as well.
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 1:26:08 PM)
I'm in Florida talk about enemy territory, they still don't know who won the civil war. HA
TheKaiser21 (Aug 4, 2006 1:26:10 PM)
Thanks as always for the Info Steve.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:26:40 PM)
All right guys, one hour and 38 mins later I am out of here. Take care and, please, come by Tuesday at 1 and give Brian a big Bucknuts welcome!!!
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:26:51 PM)
I will turn moderation off now so you may talk among youselves.
SteveHelwagen (Aug 4, 2006 1:27:11 PM)
chuangtsu7 (Aug 4, 2006 1:27:16 PM)
Scooter (Aug 4, 2006 1:27:24 PM)
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