Hi Steve, Beating Texas was a sweet victory. But I can't help but get frustrated when I look at the 2007 Scout Hot 100 recruits. How is it that Texas already has 8 verbals, USC 7 verbals, and Ohio State only 1 verbal? It's almost unbelievable how many blue chippers those schools are getting.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 9:50:30 AM)
Well, they have some built-in advantages. For whatever reasons, the gurus like the talent in Texas, Cali and Fla. the best. Texas is the dominant team in Texas and USC is the same on the West Coast. So in terms of rankings, those teams have a built-in advantage. Ohio only has 3-4 top-100 kids and those states probably each have 10-15. ...
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 9:52:27 AM)
Colin Cowherd put it good on Austin radio last Friday. He said USC and Texas are selecting players now, while the rest still have to recruit. OSU has to fight Michigan and ND, in particular, for a lot of top kids. USC and Texas don't have it quite as hard because they are so dominant in their home areas. Cal beat USC 2-3 years ago, but that's it. Nobody in Texas can touch Texas. ...
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 9:53:03 AM)
But a win over at Texas at Texas will go a long way toward helping Ohio State move up that food chain. Already, we hear how Barksdale and Brent were impressed by the win, etc.
stone cold buckeye (Sep 14, 2006 9:53:06 AM)
DOes UC even stand a chance this week?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 9:54:25 AM)
Sure, they played Pitt pretty tough. They gave up 2 long TDs and saw an INT go pick 6 with 4 seconds left ... voila 18-point loss. It was closer than the score indicates ...
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 9:55:45 AM)
They have been young, but they are growing up. I don't think they will beat Ohio State, certainly. But they have enough to give OSU some negative plays and hang in there for a while. The defense, in particular, is somewhat no name.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 9:57:09 AM)
I like some sparks Grutza has shown and Glatthaar was dynamite at Elder. Goodman I think played at Colerain.
Sheepskin (Sep 14, 2006 9:57:26 AM)
Did you see any of the Iowa game? Does Tate make that much of a difference or is this just not a very good team.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 9:58:15 AM)
No did not see it. I am Tivo'ing Iowa-Iowa State. Yes, Tate is that good. Manson kept SU in it with 4 picks.
stone cold buckeye (Sep 14, 2006 9:58:47 AM)
I know everyone is saying the D was good but I cannot but help be concerned on those wide runs. Two weeks in a row we could not stop it if our life depended on it.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:01:00 AM)
Well, I understand all of the hand wringing. Let's start that Texas has a special OL and 2 special RBs. They are going to trample a lot of people. Be thankful that Texas is one-dimensional (at least for now) and has no vertical passing game to offset the run game. Let's see what happens going forward. OSU showed it is strong against the pass (good pass rush, decent coverage schemes) ...
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:01:37 AM)
And running the football, while important, is not everything. Teams will need to complete passes to beat this team. I think OSU's nickel scheme played into Texas' hands at times as well.
ottobuck (Sep 14, 2006 10:01:42 AM)
Did you see the colision between Jenkins & UT player going into Brown?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:02:07 AM)
No, I didn't see it. Brown has said he was hit in the mouth on that play. A Texas player blocked Jenkins into him.
MacAuley says BucksBy24 (Sep 14, 2006 10:02:12 AM)
Steve - Thanks for your time today. Does Coach Tressel try some new plays and formations this week or does he go back to playing it "close to the (sweater) vest"?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:02:58 AM)
No, I think you'll see OSU continue to put the hammer down. I bet it looks a lot like the NIU game, where they piled up 488 yards and would have pushed 50 points if not for the fumbles at the 2 and 5 yard lines.
Dingbuck (Sep 14, 2006 10:03:13 AM)
Great win and quite surprising. Amazes me what senior leadership does, especially at a key position. A few years back, perhaps '99, I though we would be good even though a new defense was being broken in. Didn't happen. Thus far it is this year. Where would you see as the one pitfall ahead on the schedule, one most might not think could be a loss?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:04:42 AM)
I'm watching Iowa against Iowa State to see if the Hawkeyes get back on top. Their defense must have been great last week against an admittedly hapless Syracuse team. Also watching MSU. The moment of truth has arrived for the Spartans. They play Pitt this week and ND next. If they win both, they'll be pushing the top 15 and be branded legit. OSU has to visit both of them.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:05:11 AM)
If Tate is 100 percent, Iowa could pull that upset. Stanton gives MSU a chance to win every game they play.
buckatwork (Sep 14, 2006 10:05:22 AM)
Sorry if this has been asked, do you know if Freddie Lenix will play on Saturday for UC?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:05:52 AM)
Lenix has not registered a tackle yet in 2 games for UC. He is not in the two-deep and I have no way of knowing if he plays on any of the special teams. We'll see.
DantheMan (Sep 14, 2006 10:06:11 AM)
With playing lots of players, not embarrassing Mark Dantonio, and a possible let down, do you see OSU winning by 30???
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:08:35 AM)
Probably not. My thought was 41-17 and that was before I knew the spread was a full 30. You could probably count Tressel's 30-point wins on one hand in 6 years at OSU. I don't want to say that he'll take it easy on Dantonio. I don't think even he'd say that. But subconsciously he will want to season as many players as possible. They showed last week they can certainly handle it.
buckeyeinsaline (Sep 14, 2006 10:08:48 AM)
Steve - Seems to be alot of question marks about our linebacker play on the boards. What is your take on the group?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:10:39 AM)
They have not played a lot of 3 LB sets with all of the nickel. Accordingly, Homan and Kerr can't make plays when they're on the sidelines. Laurinaitis played a great game last week. Freeman is learning on the job. Terry was dynamite. He only played about 17 plays, but he blew up about 5 of them. That's a high percentage. I think they will be fine. This is a good game coming up for the process to continue.
Buckeyesforlife (Sep 14, 2006 10:10:44 AM)
Will Roy Hall be back for the Cinny game
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:11:01 AM)
Have not heard, more important he's ready for PSU and Iowa, certainly.
buckatwork (Sep 14, 2006 10:11:24 AM)
Did you see any of the PSU - ND game? Is PSU that bad and/or is ND that good? What can we expect next weekend in Columbus?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:12:47 AM)
I Tivo'd it and have not watched it. Sounds like ND just crushed them on both sides of the ball. PSU is just young on both lines and, in general, defensively ... oh, and also at QB. PSU is not that bad, from what I know. ND just had the perfect storm.
Sheepskin (Sep 14, 2006 10:12:51 AM)
Did Aaron Gant play Saturday?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:13:01 AM)
No, not that I am aware. He was there in case, I guess.
ChicagoBuck (Sep 14, 2006 10:13:14 AM)
Steve, Ted Ginn has an awesome cover coming up soon on SI. Tressel made a great comment this week about "he was worried about how the players will deal with success". History has been very tough on #1 teams who are trying to go wire-to-wire. Will this team let it go to their head? I still have nightmares about MSU upsetting us at home.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:14:51 AM)
They are saying and doing all the right things. After the game Sat., everybody said they are taking it 1 game at a time, 1 week at a time. Their heads seem to be screwed on tight. But 10 games is a long time in college football. That is quite a grind. The 4 games to really watch now are PSU, at Iowa, at MSU and Michigan.
DantheMan (Sep 14, 2006 10:15:01 AM)
I agree with stone cold buckeye. 170 yards of rushing two weeks in a row is a pattern. Let's not put OSU in the BCS game unless they can stop teams with a good running game and a good passing game, i.e., Albert Young/Drew Tate, Stanton/Ringer, Henne/Hart. Your thoughs on this hype?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:15:49 AM)
I agree in principle. My experience is they will only get better over time. They are getting some turnovers out of there, too, and that helps the bottom line. But it is a valid concern until they hold somebody under 100 rushing.
hammbone1928 (Sep 14, 2006 10:15:54 AM)
OS has offered somewhere between 6 to 7 Jr's allready isn't this a large no. I can't remember anything like it?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:17:01 AM)
The dynamics of recruiting have changed. This is the standard now to offer the certain blue chippers on Sept. 1 of their junior year. With so few scholarships available for next year, OSU has pinpointed the 7-8 guys it wants and is going after them. Sound strategy ... if they all pan out.
buckeyeinsaline (Sep 14, 2006 10:17:05 AM)
IT"S A GREAT TIME TO BE A BUCKEYE FAN! NO DOUBT!
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:17:33 AM)
That was as big a win as any I can recall, up there with the Fiesta Bowl(s) and Michigan.
acesaces (Sep 14, 2006 10:17:36 AM)
Hi Steve Do we get the running game rolling against UC :-)
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:19:12 AM)
They held Pitt to 90 yards on 35 carries. My guess is Ohio State, though, will line up and run the ball effectively against UC. They need to get Pittman and Chris Wells running downhill, no doubt.
ChicagoBuck (Sep 14, 2006 10:19:48 AM)
I would love to see Rob Schoenhoft or Boeckman get into the UC game. We don't want to have a "Colt McCoy" situation next year at the QB position.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:21:13 AM)
That would be the best case scenario. You need to get a lot of people some seasoning and also keep the hammer down for PSU. Tough line to walk, but it would be great to have that option. That means this game will be a positive experience. Texas was left in the lerch by Young going pro. OSU has plenty of options waiting in the wings. They just need snaps.
buckeyeinsaline (Sep 14, 2006 10:21:19 AM)
Steve We must have the best overall depth on this team this year than any I can remember since the 70's. What a haul in the recruiting class last year.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:21:57 AM)
Agreed, that was one of the lessons from Saturday. They went fully two-deep at Texas. Everybody in the two-deep (except Zwick) made a contribution at some point in that win.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:22:10 AM)
Agreed on the freshman class. Very impressive group so far.
mckbuckeye (Sep 14, 2006 10:22:15 AM)
Steve - any news on Barksdale - was a Texas lean - does this Whuppin give OSU any more of an advantage?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:23:09 AM)
Sounds like the ND visit was impressive. I think he is cooling on Texas or vice versa. Said he watched the OSU game on tape and he was very impressed with the domination of the Horns. OSU is definitely right there with ND and 2-3 others. He said OSU wants his last visit, whenever that will be.
md buck (Sep 14, 2006 10:23:20 AM)
Loved the game but sitll nervous as others have said about our D I wathced the game a few different times. We had so many guys around the running back and then he would sneak through. They coulndt get off thier blocks. Can we improve that much when we see Iowa.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:24:26 AM)
That was Texas they were playing. Remember them? The defending national champions. That wasn't Northern Illinois or Bowling Green or Indiana. They were going to make some plays in the game. Their OL is really good and so are their backs.
ottobuck (Sep 14, 2006 10:24:35 AM)
Will we try to pound the run more this week?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:25:52 AM)
Yes, I think so, although Pitt did throw the ball well against UC, so I am sure Tressel believes Smith can carve them up and go toward 250 again through the air. Would be nice to meet his goals (200 rushing, 250 passing), win comfortably, tackle on defense and get a lot of guys in. It seems that's the only way everybody will be happy (ha ha). ...
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:26:31 AM)
You may be waiting a long time before they play a game where they tick all of those objectives off. Cincinnati is going to make some plays in there somewhere.
hammbone1928 (Sep 14, 2006 10:26:49 AM)
Besides DT & OT what area do you think OS has the most need for?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:27:57 AM)
Those two for sure. Probably WR with Ginn, Gonzo and Hall all upperclassmen. They have recruited Saine and Herron at RB. They seem to get all the DBs they need. I think they lack a true MLB in the pipeline, particularly if Mark Johnson never makes it because of injury.
Sheepskin (Sep 14, 2006 10:28:01 AM)
Any word on Jim Cordle?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:28:51 AM)
Looks like he's third at center. But Datish leaves after this year. He's just a RS freshman. No hurry. He'll be in there soon enough. If he shows he is in their top 5 next year, Whaley could be the C and Cordle could be a G. Who knows?
MacAuley says BucksBy24 (Sep 14, 2006 10:28:55 AM)
Is there an inspirational leader on the team, that doesn't really play much?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:29:18 AM)
I am not sure who that would be. Troy Smith seems to be the guy. I think Ginn is a leader as well.
Hicks74 (Sep 14, 2006 10:29:26 AM)
Hi Steve , I am not a big fan of Mo Wells. He slapped at the one pass thrown to him like he had two frying pans for hands and it ricocheted off his facemask. What is your take ?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:31:14 AM)
I can't explain it. I think there is something there,but they need to pick and choose when they use him. Apparently, he has shown he can pass protect. Maybe that's why he gets as many assignments as he does, almost at Chris Wells' expense. Young guys -- even 230-pound young guys -- sometimes have a problem picking up those assignments. I think Mo Wells can be like a Mo Hall who sparks you for 2-3 nice sized plays a game. Beyond that, you have the law of diminishing returns.
ChicagoBuck (Sep 14, 2006 10:31:38 AM)
There are a whopping 7 top 25 matchups this weekend. It is a dream football marathon for college fans. Which game(s) are the biggest keys towards the National Championship picture?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:32:24 AM)
This is a great weekend to be a college football fan, no doubt. I think WVU downs Maryland tonight (not a top-25 game). Md. hasn't played anybody yet. WVU can show they are for real, to a degree ...
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:34:52 AM)
As for Sat., the ones I would pay to see would be LSU-Auburn (an absolute war), Oklahoma-Oregon (Ducks have never beaten OU and have lost to them 2 straight years, this is their chance at home), Miami-Louisville (type for UL to poop or get off the pot, Coker could be in trouble, would be a gigantic win for Big East), ND-Michigan (UM hasn't won there since 94, UM hasn't won a meaningful Sept. game maybe back to 97, they need it bad), Fla.-UT (are the Vols truly back or is the SEC going to be an Urban neighborhood?). ...
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:35:11 AM)
Damn so many great games. You need 3 TVs to keep it all straight. That 3:30 shift is incredible ...
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:35:16 AM)
And I didn't even mention ...
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:35:41 AM)
MSU-Pittsburgh. Two midlevel programs fighting for respect. Underachieved miserably last year. They each need it bad.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:35:51 AM)
Palko vs. Stanton, should be a great one.
Guest (Sep 14, 2006 10:36:11 AM)
Over the next few games to you think Beanie will get more carries. I saw him and AP walking together during the game. He is hugh and on one of his runs I thought is was Ap running and it was him. Mans he quick for his size.
hammbone1928 (Sep 14, 2006 10:36:15 AM)
What players do you think will Red Shirt?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:38:50 AM)
The guys who have not played so far are Henton, Smith, Browning, Larimore. Chekwa, Dublin, Gant, Gibson, Johnson (hurt), Kerr, Miller, Moeller, Olson (hurt) and Schwartz. My guess is if they don't play this week, they will be prime RS candidates, barring a key injury through midseason.
Hicks74 (Sep 14, 2006 10:38:56 AM)
Steve - Who were you most impressed with with the 2nd Team OLine ? Good to see Person, Skinner in there. Esp in a big game.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:40:00 AM)
I rewatched that drive this morning. They seemed to really pressure Whaley at C a lot. Schafer had his hands full at LT. Great to see the big 3 of Mitchum, Person and Skinner in the game together at a key moment like that. Congrats to all of those guys for the hard work they have put in.
Hicks74 (Sep 14, 2006 10:40:08 AM)
Steve - Do you see Troy Smith turning it up and running more. We have a lot of weapons but he would add something to a predictable running attack.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:40:39 AM)
I agree 100 percent on that. Maybe he won't do it this week, but in the Big Ten they will need it.
Hicks74 (Sep 14, 2006 10:40:53 AM)
Has Smith pulled ahead of Ballard at the backup TE ?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:41:12 AM)
I think Smith is the backup. But Ballard is also playing here and there.
mckbuckeye (Sep 14, 2006 10:41:20 AM)
Steve - I was amazed that OSU could substitute the whole OL in the Texas game - such an important game with such a amazing move - there seemed to be no drop off. It was amazing! What do you think?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:42:10 AM)
And it was predetermined. They told those guys to be ready on the third series, whenever it was. They gave Smith just enough time to get the ball off. Texas blew up a running play in there, but otherwise they showed they can pass protect if they're needed.
acesaces (Sep 14, 2006 10:42:13 AM)
Steve : Henton, The scout's team QB, that's awesome for him.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:42:26 AM)
Sounds like he gets much of the work there with Rob and Todd filling in as well.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:42:31 AM)
It is great for him.
Hicks74 (Sep 14, 2006 10:42:38 AM)
Steve, I am just thinking Barksdale will pull another Aaron Brown and OSU will get sick of it. Sounds like he wants everyone to jump through hoops.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:43:51 AM)
The need at DT is too pronounced. If OSU believes he can help them, they'll hold a spot until signing day. OSU really wants him, it sounds like. They told him they want to be his last visit. That tells me they want to pull out every stop and get him. Psychologically, it means a lot to have so many great athletes (Gholston, Gant, Washington and possibly Barksdale) from Michigan.
doindad (Sep 14, 2006 10:44:03 AM)
Try again, Hello Steve. First time to use chat feature. Do you see JT continuing the liberal substitution patterns into the Big 10 season?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:44:38 AM)
No, I think that was a special circumstance because of the heat and everybody answered the bell. Winning the game and putting people away as soon as possible will be job one.
hammbone1928 (Sep 14, 2006 10:44:50 AM)
I didn't know M Johnson wan injured, what happened? Isn't he from Cal.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:45:02 AM)
He came in with shoulder damage that required surgery over the summer.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:45:22 AM)
It sounded pretty serious. Hopefully he can get back by the spring or next fall.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:45:33 AM)
They need help at MLB, just depth, rather.
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 10:45:37 AM)
Late to the chat, if you haven't covered it, what did you think of Terry's performance... LBs surprising all of us!
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:45:59 AM)
You are late (ha ha). But I am sure you'll make up for lost time (ha ha).
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:46:49 AM)
I thought Terry was GREAT! It was almost like they held him back against NIU and unleashed him. My brother-in-law said he thought 50 (Gholston) and 55 (Terry) were out of this world as he rewatched it. Terry was in on 17 plays, I believe, and blew them up like 5 times.
doindad (Sep 14, 2006 10:46:54 AM)
Steve, your thoughts on Antonio Smith's play in the Texas game?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:48:27 AM)
I was extremely impressed. He runs well and has a knack for what's going on. He came on a corner blitz and read the screen perfectly. He retreated outside and nailed Charles, I think, for a 5-yard loss. He and Washington give them options. I like the secondary of Mitchell and Russell at the safeties, Smith at nickel and Washington and Jenkins at corner. O'Neal and Patterson provide great depth as well.
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 10:48:42 AM)
Ok, let's hear any latest recruiting news... I know you must have heard some excitement after our big time win!
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 10:48:45 AM)
Does Barksdale start singing a different tune now?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:50:13 AM)
Barksdale, for one, was very impressed. He was at ND-PSU and taped the OSU game. They have 3-4 guys coming in next weekend for visits, including DL Derrick Morgan from PA and WR Greg Little from NC and DB James Scott from FL. A big nationally televised win like that can only help them.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:50:25 AM)
Josh Brent also says OSU is No. 1 over Illinois and everybody else.
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 10:50:35 AM)
Penn State looked solid for 2+ quarters against Notre Dame. I thought after the first quarter that they were going to win. They killed themselves. Anything to worry about?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:51:21 AM)
Sure, Derrick Williams must be checked and Butler is tough as well. PSU caught lightning in a bottle last year with all of the seniors and impact freshman mixed together. This is the PSU most of us have been watching these last 5-6 years.
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 10:51:37 AM)
Are you hearing anything about our DBs that you haven't addressed? Russell, Amos, Coleman, etc?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:52:17 AM)
Russell looks like the starter for the time being. Good to see Amos get into a key game and make a play or two. Nothing really on Coleman. They are not rushing him into production because Washington, Jenkins and even Smith have been so good so far.
ameliabuck (Sep 14, 2006 10:52:23 AM)
Any concern with the penalties on Boone through the first couple of games?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:54:50 AM)
Jim Lachey, himself, pooh-poohed the penalties at Tuesday's luncheon. He said false starts will happen as a LT on the road because you can't hear anything. He was matched up against some great athletes with Crowder and Orakpo. They will win some and he'll win some. He got the job done for the most part. He turned Robison loose on the blindside sack, but that was almost a coverage sack.
Hicks74 (Sep 14, 2006 10:55:49 AM)
Was never a huge Schaefer fan. Did Rehring move ahead of him ?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:57:36 AM)
No, I don't think so.
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 10:57:46 AM)
Any word on Tate? It sure would help to play Iowa against that weak QB. That game was so ugly, we could lay an A-whoopin on them without Tate.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:57:52 AM)
I think he is back this week.
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 10:57:59 AM)
What is holding O'Neal back. I can't wait for him to live up to his incredible potential. Can you imagine how explosive our backfield would be with Russell and O'Neal!
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:58:13 AM)
The movements must not be second nature for him yet. That's all I can figure.
Hicks74 (Sep 14, 2006 10:58:18 AM)
Steve, Is Albert Dukes buried or what ? Is he a potential Jackson State WR ? Small has pulled ahead of him now !
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:59:07 AM)
I wouldn't say that. I'd say they are co-No. 5's. Did you see they put Dukes and Small in the game when it was obvious they would be running? Was I the only one who caught that? That rested the "real receivers" for the pass plays.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 10:59:23 AM)
Ingenius ploy and I'm sure Texas eventually figured it out.
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 10:59:33 AM)
If you haven't already addressed it, where and when does R. Hall make it back onto the field? Just another weapon, might as well use it!
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:00:27 AM)
He has had a high ankle sprain. My guess is they won't rush him back this week unless he is 100 percent. Most important he plays vs. PSU and Iowa. Too bad for him. He needed a big year.
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 11:00:36 AM)
How can there not be a let down this week or next? How do you "get up" for Cin, Penn St, and Iowa after beating the #2 team in the country at their place? It scares me.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:01:05 AM)
First quarter hangover could be there. They've had these before (see any SDSU game).
doindad (Sep 14, 2006 11:01:17 AM)
Due to last year's game result and an off season of them utilizing their bragging rights to the fullest extent. I would like to see a complete demolition done with PSU. Care to offer an early prediction?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:01:28 AM)
Wow, next week's game already?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:01:34 AM)
Maybe 30-17, something like that.
mubuck (Sep 14, 2006 11:01:49 AM)
any word on any of the FL recruits...Thompson, Wright, etc
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:02:23 AM)
No, mum is the word. Most kids are concentrating on their season. They are setting up some visit dates off in the distance. I think Wright is still mentioning OSU. I'm not sure Thompson still is.
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 11:02:30 AM)
When is JT going to get the respect that he deserves? Everyone talks about how great Weis is when he hasn't ever won anything (on his own), and yet I never hear about what a great coach JT is. I think that a NC this year could turn that around.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:02:49 AM)
I think Tressel does get respect nationally. That was quite a show ABC did on him last Sat.
jimmy (Sep 14, 2006 11:02:54 AM)
What surprised you most about the Buckeyes and their dominant win against Texas?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:03:32 AM)
Number of guys who played and played well, number of times Texas left Gonzo wide open, how one dimensional Texas truly was (and, in turn, almost easy to defend).
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 11:03:52 AM)
This year is turning out to be just as exciting as we had hoped. How can we not be excited about next year's team as well? If we can fill the QB spot adequately (with the aid of a solid running game) and fill some holes at DT it looks like we will be stacked again! It sure is great to be a Buckeye!
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:05:19 AM)
And the schedule does not look at that imposing, either, with YSU, at Washington, etc. They do have to visit Michigan, though, and that number will have to come up at some point. QB will be the critical position. My guess is Ginn won't be back. He'd be worth 2-3 wins alone if he came back.
jimmy (Sep 14, 2006 11:05:24 AM)
Steve, Who wins in the ND vs Michigan game this weekend?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:05:38 AM)
I picked ND at home in a tight game.
rbuck (Sep 14, 2006 11:05:53 AM)
Regarding Hicks74 comment on Dukes, I actually saw him on the field more than Small.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:06:29 AM)
Yeah, I think Dukes playing in that game when it was still in doubt shows they have some faith in him.
Hicks74 (Sep 14, 2006 11:06:38 AM)
Is DT a possibility to offer for a JC-type guy with the the P's all graduating. DT seems to be the one position you can plug in quicker, no ?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:06:51 AM)
Possibly, maybe they will scour for a good JC DT.
ChicagoBuck (Sep 14, 2006 11:06:59 AM)
I've been a Buckeye all my life, 33 years. (Both parents were Buckeyes too). I have never recalled such a "golden era" of Buckeye football. If Woody was the original golden age, are we experiencing the next Golden Age of Buckeye football with Tressel?!
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:07:31 AM)
Yep, three BCS bowl wins in 4 years and they are 8 wins away from locking down another BCS bid and 10 from another berth in the final. These are the good times.
mckbuckeye (Sep 14, 2006 11:07:44 AM)
Steve - when are they going to take the skirts off the QB's? That hit was in no way possible late or helmet to helmet - as an old D-guy it seems to get worse every year. Weren't the refs big 10? Will they have some type of statement about it?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:08:34 AM)
tressel said the referee told him he was protecting the QB. I'm not sure from what. That was a legal hit. Richardson made contact as the ball was thrown. Ridiculous. Put a skirt on them.
ohs (Sep 14, 2006 11:08:41 AM)
will rose red shirt?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:08:46 AM)
No, he played in the opener.
hammbone1928 (Sep 14, 2006 11:08:53 AM)
I read where Clifton has dopped M. from his list, do you think that increases our chances?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:09:02 AM)
Yes, I think it looks great for Ohio State.
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 11:10:00 AM)
Greg Litle, can you tell us anything about him? Would be nice to add the #8 LB to our crew.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:12:00 AM)
Scout has Little as an LB, but I think he is a WR. He is 6-3, 205. He visits next week and will announce on 10/6. Also likes UNC, ND, Duke and others.
ChicagoBuck (Sep 14, 2006 11:12:09 AM)
The OSU Athletic Department was in the news recently for surpassing the $100 million revenue mark. I believe this was a all time new record for any school. The money coffers at OSU must be well stocked. Thoughts?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:13:01 AM)
Well they also have huge bills with debt service on arena and stadium and rising scholarship costs. I think some schools may have to cut sports/scholarships because of those costs eventually. College athletics will look a lot different in 10 or 15 years, I think.
rbuck (Sep 14, 2006 11:13:27 AM)
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:14:04 AM)
They just cut it to 4-1 in the seventh and sudden hero Jason LaRue is up with 2 on, I believe. But this is it. A loss today puts them 4-1/2 out and they can forget it.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:14:32 AM)
LaRue makes it 4-2, coming together, Pepper.
ottobuck (Sep 14, 2006 11:14:40 AM)
The 75 76 Reds were awsome!
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:14:47 AM)
Yep, those were the days.
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 11:15:18 AM)
It seems like we have trouble stopping the run on the outside. Do you have an explanation?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:15:55 AM)
Just young guys learning how to read and react outside. It was second nature last year. Let's face it, there will be seams and they will be susceptible to cutbacks and counters until midseason.
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 11:16:00 AM)
When do we see a big game out of L. Wilson? I want to see that monster perform like we know he can.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:16:20 AM)
Yep, Gholston has come out strong and Richardson has been good. I want to see Wilson and Barrow do it as well.
jimmy (Sep 14, 2006 11:16:44 AM)
How long would you anticipate playing so many O-lineman and linebackers this season?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:17:41 AM)
I think this can only help them to have so many guys ready to play. Hard to say what the future will hold. Most years, they stick with 5 OL and 3 LB. But they have guys who can help them, obviously.
jimmy (Sep 14, 2006 11:17:48 AM)
What is the eligibility status of the D lineman that transferred in from Auburn?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:18:04 AM)
Juan Garnier is a junior.
mckbuckeye (Sep 14, 2006 11:18:13 AM)
Does Tress finish out his illustrious career at OSU a la Woody and Bo or does he move on to the NFL?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:19:01 AM)
He'll be at OSU as long as he wants. He is making roughly $2.5 million a year. The NFL isn't going to pay much more than that. Why go there for all the headaches when you have such a machine rolling downhill as OSU is now (downhill in a good way).
jimmy (Sep 14, 2006 11:19:14 AM)
Will having a big time young back like Beanie Wells discourage other 5 star RBs from becoming a Buckeyes over the next two years?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:19:39 AM)
Hasn't dissuaded Herron or Saine. I think they'll be OK.
hammbone1928 (Sep 14, 2006 11:19:52 AM)
M. is losing a lot of great FB players this yr to OOS schools, think they are losing their grip in M?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:21:33 AM)
May be. I think people are sensing some chinks in the armor there. Michigan is vulnerable. They need some wins on the field (starting Sat. in S. Bend) and in the recruiting wars as well.
rbuck (Sep 14, 2006 11:21:48 AM)
Did Hammbone mean Clifford? Clifton??
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:21:54 AM)
Yes, Eugene Clifford.
jpars82 (Sep 14, 2006 11:22:11 AM)
Is it possible for you guys to get Brandon Saine in on one of the Bucknuts radio hours this fall? You think he has another 200+ rushing yard game tomorrow? With another 4-5 tds?? He looks really good this year!
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:22:20 AM)
Yeah, we'll try and do it at some point.
wwt (Sep 14, 2006 11:22:27 AM)
You say college athelics will look alot different in 10-15 years - in what way???
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:22:57 AM)
I just think budget crunches will lead schools to downsize a bit. They may even have to reduce schollies to 75 or 80 someday.
redondo (Sep 14, 2006 11:23:02 AM)
Steve - How is the official that was tripped on the field in the opener and appeared to have a shoulder or arm injury when they showed him leaving the field?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:23:20 AM)
I have not heard an update. They said dislocated shoulder. My guess is he's out for a while.
MacAuley says BucksBy24 (Sep 14, 2006 11:23:27 AM)
Would you predict any big upsets this weekend? How does the highschool schedule look?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:24:05 AM)
Louisville over Miami, not really an upset. There will be some in the high profile games, but I like most of the chalk, for some reason. Oregon over Okla. (finally). ...
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:24:44 AM)
This is the Herbstreit weekend. I want to see how Colerain does Friday at UC. The St. X-Lakeland, Fla., game may be one of the best prep games in the country this year. St. Ed needs to rebound after the loss to St. X.
kahuna825 (Sep 14, 2006 11:24:50 AM)
How about our LB's this year, if things continue the way they are going, who will start by the end of the year?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:25:13 AM)
Looks like Homan, Laurinaitis and Freeman with a dose of Terry and Grant at times.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:25:36 AM)
Fickell said he forgot about Kerr, not a good sign if you're Kerr.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:25:40 AM)
Anything else today?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:26:10 AM)
Gary tomorrow, Nevada Monday, Dave Tuesday at 9 p.m., Mark Brennan Wed. and Gary and I next Thursday and Friday.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:26:41 AM)
This has been fun. Glad we could visit and we truly appreciate your business. We're going to try and ramp it back up next week.
mckbuckeye (Sep 14, 2006 11:26:45 AM)
As always Steve - Great chat!
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:26:59 AM)
Some team named Pennsylvania State, heard of them?, is due in.
calbuck79 (Sep 14, 2006 11:27:08 AM)
Run offense and Run defense concern me for the big games at Iowa and Michigan. do oyu see improvement in our lines to shore up these weak areas
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:27:44 AM)
I don't think the lines are the problem. I think they were going against a great Texas DL and OSU did not need to run it against the Texas. The pass was there all night ...
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:28:30 AM)
Run defense will be fine. It's not the line. They're fine. It's how the LBs and safeties scrape off blocks and make plays that will determine success/lack thereof. Teams get nothing between the tackles against OSU. They're learning.
MacAuley says BucksBy24 (Sep 14, 2006 11:28:35 AM)
Who is Mark Brennan?
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:28:50 AM)
Mark is the editor of FightOnState.com, the preeminent expert on Penn State.
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:28:55 AM)
Got to run.
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 11:28:58 AM)
Awesome chat Steve!
Guest (Sep 14, 2006 11:29:00 AM)
Not from me, thanks Steve
doindad (Sep 14, 2006 11:29:02 AM)
MacAuley says BucksBy24 (Sep 14, 2006 11:29:05 AM)
calbuck79 (Sep 14, 2006 11:29:09 AM)
great have a good one go bucks
MacAuley says BucksBy24 (Sep 14, 2006 11:29:11 AM)
O -H !!!
SteveHelwagen (Sep 14, 2006 11:29:17 AM)
I say 24 as well (ha ha).
chuangtsu (Sep 14, 2006 11:29:27 AM)
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