Helwagen Chat: Sept. 22 Archive

Here are excerpts from Friday's Chat session with Bucknuts.com managing editor Steve Helwagen. He conducts these Chat sessions each week for Bucknuts.com subscribers. Recruiting editor Duane Long will host a Chat at 1 p.m. Monday.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:49:00 AM)
Duane Long to Chat Monday at 1 p.m. Here we go.

keato (Sep 22, 2006 9:49:03 AM)
Steve, may as well start this off with a bang!!! When do you think Teddy Ballgame is going to figure out that running North and South is better than tiptoeing East and West when returning punts? (Roundtown by 2 touchdowns!!)

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:49:37 AM)
Hello, Keato, I agree Tigers by 2 TDs over the hated Braves (and don't tell Charles Babb that because he's an LE grad). OK ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:50:40 AM)
Ted hasn't gotten much done yet in the return game. He's scoring plenty of TDs on offense, though. Teams have kicked away from him and made the offense earn it. Be patient, somebody will screw up at some point and he'll get loose. Would be great if some of those happen during the Big ten and help them out in the conference.

ottobuck (Sep 22, 2006 9:51:05 AM)
Is Roy Hall the Buckeye to get the first TD?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:54:05 AM)
I apologize, I lost my service in the middle of that. 4-5 questions in the queue are gone, so we're starting over. i did get the question on Roy Hall, though ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:54:51 AM)
Would be great to get Roy Hall going, that is for sure. He may have an advantage on PSU's smaller DBs. They need Hall to help the offense, no doubt.

Poz79 (Sep 22, 2006 9:54:54 AM)
Steve did you give a score for tomorrow yet?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:55:37 AM)
Yeah, I originally picked 34-17 before knowing what the spread was. When I heard it was 17, I moved mine to 35-17. I don't think PSU is as bad as they showed against ND. But I think OSU is clearly superior here.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 9:55:41 AM)
What are your thoughts on the recruiting scene planned for this weekend? The Bucks seem to have gotten away from heavy recruiting weekends the last couple of seasons, but obviously they are taking a different tact this year. Do you think they are actually letting the recruits convince each other to be Buckeyes this weekend?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:56:58 AM)
It is a big weekend. They have 4 OOS official visits with Greg Little (great prospect), Derrick Morgan (DL fills a need), James Scott and Devon Still (versatile line prospect with offers from everybody). Plus, you have the juniors like Williams, Long, Adams and Brewster and many others ....

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:57:48 AM)
Scholarship spots are so tight this year and next that they won't be wasting time on guys going elsewhere. That is for sure. I think it is all a good sign. Hey, after that Texas game, they may have Texas kids wanting to play at OSU (ha ha). They're hot right now.

keato (Sep 22, 2006 9:57:56 AM)
Steve, I saw the clip on E. Clifford and I was blown away!!! How in the world is this kid only ranked like the 17th best safety in the nation??? Good looking kid who will have a chance to contribute right away. What are you thoughts?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:59:21 AM)
We have him No. 2 in Ohio behind Ben Martin, so we know and respect what he can do. I think he had 145 tackles in 12 games last year. Scout has him No. 12 at safety. Bob L. says those rankings are out of date and erroneous. He'll be moving up at safety and probly into the top 100 nationally. He is 6-2, 190 and can run like a deer and hit like a ton of bricks. His team has won 31 of their last 33 games. He's a winner. Great, great pickup.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:59:33 AM)
By we, I meant Ohio High magazine.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 9:59:42 AM)
Ok, we have Clifford, Torrence, and Oliver.... where do they end up playing? How would Major Wright fit into the defense?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:01:15 AM)
Torrence is a corner, Oliver is a safety, Clifford could play any of the 4 positions. If he shows he can cover at this level, he'd be a Chris Gamble-type "big corner" (oh my). Wright is listed as a safety. He is 6-1, 204, so that's where he'd be. James Scott, due in this weekend, is more of a pure corner.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:01:26 AM)
It looks like Little, Scott, and Still are coming to Columbus this weekend. Can you tell us if we have a chance for any/all of these guys?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:02:39 AM)
Probably 20-25 percent shot on each. They each have a great list of schools. Little, I think is also looking at ND and USC. Still has Michigan, Miami, FSU and others. These are guys who want to take 4-5 visits and then decide, so I think Ohio State is in the running. But would not consider OSU as the definitive favorite for any of them. Maybe that changes after this weekend.

ottobuck (Sep 22, 2006 10:02:43 AM)
Whats the weather going to be and how's the playing field look?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:03:41 AM)
I imagine they have tried all week to salvage it. I have not been back over there since the game. They were working feverishly on it, injecting it with sand and seeding it and doing whatever they could to get it right. My guess is they will cover it overnight with so much rain expected. ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:04:08 AM)
I guess it is quite a front of weather coming through. Weather.com says 60 percent chance of rain, T-storms possible and highs in mid-70s. Not good.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:04:13 AM)
JoePa has me convinced there is no chance they can win here this weekend. What do you think he is selling his players?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:05:53 AM)
He has certainly played the Lou "we have no chance at all against this great team" Holtz card. (Holtz could make Navy sound like a national championship team ... ha ha.) Paterno has taken the pressure off his team. Nothing is expected, so if they show anything at all they may consider it a win. I dunno. Watching the PSU-ND game, I'm honestly not sure how they did it. Quinn stood in all day and carved them apart.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:06:05 AM)
I don't see any way Notre Dame can handle Spary in East Lansing. Do you have any thoughts?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:06:59 AM)
I agree. I am picking MSU. I watched some of ND-Michigan last night and today and ND was just feeble. They can't defend the pass. MSU is coming off a GREAT win at Pitt. Stanton is tough. This one could again be in the 40s. But I like the Spartans at home.

keato (Sep 22, 2006 10:07:06 AM)
Steve, with the weather being a factor for the game do you see Troy maybe run the ball a little more? I think the Reds trade the Dunner this winter!!!

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:07:50 AM)
I just looked this up and Troy had 611 yards and 11 TDs rushing last year. This year he is like 12 carries for minus-14. That has to change at some point. PSU's front 7 is pretty good, maybe he gets loose here. I dunno. ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:08:37 AM)
If they trade Dunn, they need a front line SP. I'm not sure he'll get you that. His value is the most it will be anywhere in Cinti. because of the short porch to right (although most of his one-run HRs would be out of any park).

ottobuck (Sep 22, 2006 10:08:46 AM)
Is the "Scarlet Out" with or with Gray stripes?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:08:50 AM)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:09:01 AM)
I like the new unis. They're 3-0 with them.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:09:06 AM)
With Pitt, Wells, Wells, Saine, and Herron on the roster next year, do we have any room to add another this year? If so who? Clay? Hughes?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:09:47 AM)
I don't think there is any urgency to add another RB at this time. If Pittman declares, then maybe they take another one. We'll see what they say after Clay, Hughes, whoever else may visit.

Poz79 (Sep 22, 2006 10:09:53 AM)
Tress sounds like he would prefer field turf how about you? Do you see that change coming in the near future?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:11:02 AM)
I like the grass. I think since the buildout that has impacted the amount of sunlight and shade the grass gets at the stadium. They are trying to grow grass between two skyscrapers. Michigan finally gave up on it. The grass also sits below the floodplain, so they have to pump water out into the river. ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:11:22 AM)
I'd rather they play on grass, but it may make more sense to switch to the FieldTurf. A lot of places have it.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:11:33 AM)
Buckeye Nation seems convinced this is going to be an easy W. Do you think the team is going to have the proper focus, or might they be reading to many press clippings? If Coop was coaching I'd be scared to death.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:12:49 AM)
Penn State is still Penn State. It is a respectable opponent. Joe Daniels said they are well coached. You may get them once on something, but never twice because they adjust so well. I think they are in transition with so many new guys (even 5 senior starters who never started before). Morelli is green as grass as well. They screwed up his career by not redshirting him in 2004.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:13:10 AM)
But I think OSU comes out strong and gets some things going early here (unlike last week).

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:13:16 AM)
Do we need Derrick Morgan or Soloman Thomas if we get B. Martin? Which ones are we most likely to get?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:14:57 AM)
I have not seen Morgan in action. Strictly going off the Scout rankings at DE, Martin is 8, Morgan is 17 and Thomas is 26. I like Martin and Thomas a lot. Maybe they only want to take 2 of them. They really need more help at DT than DE, but the great Bill Conley once told me, "You can never have enough good big guys who can run."

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:15:48 AM)
What other WRs do we add this year?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:16:49 AM)
Well, they have Taurian Washington and Dane Sanzenbacher. They only need one more. Deonte Thompson is mentioning Ohio State more and more, and that's a good sign. Greg Little is ranked as an LB, but he could be an impact WR at 6-3, 205. It would be a luxury to take a third great one, they certainly do not need to reach here.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:16:56 AM)
Are you at all worried about Penn State burning us running the ball on the outside or can we finally figure out that riddle?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:17:59 AM)
Hunt is not that good outside the tackles. Maybe I'm selling him short, but he probably won't be turning the corner and ripping off 20-yard runs. He gets his in 5-6 yard chunks between the tackles. I think they'll have trouble running on this defense. Monitor who plays defense this week for OSU. That will tell you who the coaches have the most faith in.

TexasBuckeye (Sep 22, 2006 10:18:10 AM)
Joining late, maybe this has been asked but the info I have seen says this class may be 18 or so. Given the 9 in play so far, what would the remaining position priorities be for OSU and who do you see filling those remaining positions/slots?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:20:02 AM)
They have 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 OL, 2 corners and 2 safeties already. They need some line help, maybe 2 OL and 3-4 on the DL. A great LB would be nice and they'll probably take one more DB along the way as well. ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:21:11 AM)
There are a ton of possibilities on who fills it out. Maybe they go in hard for OL Mark Wetterer, who was at the game last week. Maybe they get OL Anthony Davis or Kris O'Dowd. Davis likes OSU a lot. If they get 2 of those 3, they'd be extremely happy, I imagine.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:23:16 AM)
On the DL, they want Thomas and Martin and Barksdale and Brent, I guess. They must like Still as well. And same for Martez Wilson and Antonio Jeremiah. If they get 4 of those 6, they'd have to be happy. I think Jermale Hines gets in there as an LB-DB hybrid. We're still 4-1/2 months to signing day and they only have 8-9 spots left. It looks to me they are in position on a ton of GREAT prospects and will have no problem filling this class up.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:23:39 AM)
That's the important thing for Jim Tressel, filling their needs with guys they want to be part of their family and guys who can play.

thegreatcornholio (Sep 22, 2006 10:23:47 AM)
They shouldn't have any problem accomplishing a "red out" if they hand out free rain poncho's tomorrow.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:23:50 AM)
Ha ha.

BHorse (Sep 22, 2006 10:23:53 AM)
What impact is the weather goiong to have on the game. Good or bad for the D & O.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:24:34 AM)
In 2000, OSU excelled by running right at PSU in the rain. We see so few really bad weather days, I don't know. Puts a premium on being precise with throws and routes, I guess. OSU has shown it can do that.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:25:03 AM)
Do we see either Robert Rose or L. Wilson this weekend? Wasn't that Rose getting a sack at the end of the last game?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:25:55 AM)
Yes, Homan and Rose sacked Grutza on successive plays with about 7 minutes left. How about that?! Heacock is high on Rose. He has two Leos and two ends. He says Rose is a swing guy who can play either spot. My guess is he gets 15 plays in this game, maybe more if it gets out of hand.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:26:04 AM)
I know that Boone has taken a lot of heat this year but quite honestly he is playing just fine. He is a true Soph playing the hardest position on the line. I think the OSU coaches know that he is a special player. Do you think he deserves the critical talk?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:27:02 AM)
I agree with you. Boone is doing fine. Some of his problems have been glaring. False starts at Texas, where it was loud. A hold here and there, personal foul last week (although it was offsetting). He'll be fine. He just needs experience. He's only played about 6 games.

3dwn9togo (Sep 22, 2006 10:27:09 AM)
what game worries you more Iowa or MSU. Im more worried about MSU myself

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:28:22 AM)
Both are scary. I am taping off Iowa-Iowa State right now to clear out my Tivo so I can tape 5 more games this weekend (ha ha) and their comeback vs. ISU was damn impressive. They played lights out in the second half. MSU played well last week against Pitt. I have now watched a lot of ND. I want to see how MSU does against ND. If they beat ND, it will be a rough trip to East Lansing.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:28:26 AM)
Are you wearing all Scarlet tomorrow?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:28:38 AM)
No, I'll be wearing my blue shirt that shows up well on TV.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:28:47 AM)
That is a joke, by the way.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:29:24 AM)
I caught hell after Texas for wearing blue. The lighting in the interview room was bad. It was a gray shirt. Not sure what I'll be wearing tomorrow.

buckeyeinsaline (Sep 22, 2006 10:29:37 AM)
Steve - You have hit on this during the spring and summer, but Troy Smith has really kept his head on straight and turned things into possibly the greatest QB to ever play for OSU. If he wins out and wins Hesiman, and MNC, done deal. Your thoughts?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:31:56 AM)
I think about how weird it will be to see 10 Smith up there on the facade in the north end zone. He has the potential to make it happen by the way he is playing right now. And the thing is fame is fleeting. It could all be gone for him and this team tomorrow if they don't play well. You don't like to think about it, but imagine what Quinn and ND are going through this week. That's kind of devastating. That's a lot of pressure on a kid and a team. So I say, just enjoy watching him play these next 10 games and whatever happens happens. Some people think Peterson is the Heisman fave even after the loss last week (kind of like a consolation prize since they got jobbed). ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:32:23 AM)
If Smith wins the Heisman, it will be because he proved it over the full 12-game season. That's a long way to go still, so just relax and go with it.

BucklivGa (Sep 22, 2006 10:32:53 AM)
I am concerned with Alex Boone. Is Rehring replacing the right guy?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:34:21 AM)
I haven't spent much time grading the OL. Bollman said Rehring was his best guy last week. Boone ended up getting hurt and didn't finish, although Tressel said he was ready. My thought was they needed Schafer to rep at LT this week in case Boone couldn't go and Rehring then would play LG, but Tressel didn't necessarily agree to that scenario. They say Steve earned it and Boone is fine.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:34:32 AM)
We've been hearing so much about the '08 class. One position that hasn't been talked alot about in that class is RB. Who are the top two or three junior RBs in the state?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:36:10 AM)
Darius Ashley at St. X may be the best, but he is small (around 180). I honestly don't know. I have a list of them after him, but I can't pinpoint anybody I'd say OSU is involved with at this time. They really need Chris Wells to be the guy the next 2 years and same for Saine and Herron

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:36:19 AM)
Can you tell me why DTs aren't dying to get into OSU? They have a real chance at starting on serious national contender next year as a true freshman! I think we get Barksdale, Brent, and another DT this year. Do you?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:37:13 AM)
I think Pitcock will help that. Gholston needs to help OSU land Barksdale. Brent says OSU is one of his favorites. I think this problem will take care of itself. Next year might be rough and maybe Barrow or Worthington moves down to help out.

ottobuck (Sep 22, 2006 10:37:19 AM)
I've never seen Tressel seemed nervous, unlike no fingernails left cooper. Have you?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:38:28 AM)
No, not really. He seems to be so cool under pressure. He has seen everything, it seems, and nothing fazes him. He rarely even has a dialogue with the officials -- other than the Richardson play at Texas.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:39:49 AM)
Unless Iowa shows me something this weekend I will not give them the kind of respect a lot of people are giving them. Maybe Tate's injury has slowed them down but I'm just not worried. I am more afraid of Mich St and Michigan. Your thoughts?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:41:20 AM)
Michigan is for real, that we know and we suspected. They are never down 2 years in a row. They've played in 2 of the last 3 Rose Bowls. MSU is sparking some people and I think they beat ND. Their collapse will come later, as it always does. Iowa is pretty good. Tate gives them a chance to win every game. Chuang, unless you've been to Kinnick, you just don't know. Tough, tough place to play. Of course, this team already won at Texas, so that should serve them well.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:41:41 AM)
This coaching staff seems to be pretty firmly entrenched. Hazel looks like the only possible defection. Do you think he'll be around for awhile, or is he heading out for a better opportunity?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:42:55 AM)
He is the assistant head coach in title (and you assume in salary, perhaps). I think if somebody gives him a chance to be a coordinator at a major BCS school, he might go. He could get NFL looks as well for the job he has done with Holmes, Ginn, Gonzo, etc. But I think he will be here for the time being. He is a good one, IMO.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:43:01 AM)
We really need to get our back-up QBs some reps this week. I think we have a national championship contender next year again, but much of our success will depend on our QB. We will have the o-line, WRs, RBs, TE, and an experienced D-fense, but the QB has to be the man! I don't see Todd or Rob being 'the man'.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:43:14 AM)
Backup QBs reps against Penn State?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:44:22 AM)
This is still Penn State. Did I miss a meeting? If you're lucky, Troy Smith will be in there to fall on the ball at the end of the game. You get them reps against BG, Indiana and Illinois and NW. Not against PSU. Winning the game is job one.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:44:35 AM)
We have to take a TE this year, right? Who?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:45:08 AM)
Maybe a great one like Gronkowski, not a reach. They have Nicol for 2 more years, plus Ballard and Miller. They're fine.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:45:19 AM)
Do we ever recruit players that don't show up on Bucknuts? How do we know who we are recruiting?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:46:19 AM)
Once in a while, there will be a guy like Chimdi Chekwa who was completely below the radar. This is so involved the Scout database probably has 1,000-1500 guys in the database in the senior class. Information is so prevalent that it's almost impossible to "sneak" one by us.

nick (Sep 22, 2006 10:46:38 AM)
why does m. wells play? He doesn't break takles, fumbled against Michigan, doesn't juke anyone, has not proven on the field to be fast, etc.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:47:28 AM)
Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe Beanie hasn't shown enough in practice to surpass him. I honestly don't know. Having said that, I think the 30-yard gain on the screen a week or 2 ago shows what Mo can do. He just needs to be used sensibly.

hondo (Sep 22, 2006 10:47:31 AM)
Do you expect to see any verbels this weekend?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:47:49 AM)
Not sure who it would be. No knowledge of anybody planning to do it.

hondo (Sep 22, 2006 10:47:52 AM)
Do the Reds lock up Harang on a long term contract?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:48:58 AM)
Have to or they should just close up shop. I feel bad that I was pulled in again this year by baseball. Those owners/bastards have no desire in having the Reds on an even playing surface with the Yankees, Sox, etc. Why do we continue to follow it? We're like the birds that keep banging our heads against the glass ceiling.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:49:27 AM)
Who are the QBs in 08?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:50:20 AM)
Salvadore Battles from Youngstown Rayen and Dominique Britt (6-5) from Trotwood-Madison are a couple to watch. I like Belton this year a lot, but it does not seem like OSU will bite.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:50:33 AM)
How excited are you for the '08 Buckeye defense? Playing all of these guys is going to be huge over the next couple of seasons. And the kickers are really young, and really good, as well.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:53:10 AM)
I agree. They could be a powerhouse again by '08. I'm not so optimistic about '07. I think what you see with PSU this year could be OSU next year with the new QB. As it stands, you would have 7 starters back on offense, 5 starters back on defense and both K-P spots back. Great thing is a ton of guys are playing on both sides. Next year's sked not so tough other than trips to Washington (may be good by then), PSU and Michigan. Probably 9-3 next year and back in the hunt in '08 if they find a winner at QB.

ottobuck (Sep 22, 2006 10:53:28 AM)
Rory Nicol looks like he's geting more comfortable in the games.Does his contribution keep growing with TD's?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:53:47 AM)
That would be nice. He just needs to play and learn.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:53:51 AM)
Do you think JT has a Scarlet pancho vest?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:53:54 AM)
Ha ha.

MacAuley says BuckeyesBy17 (Sep 22, 2006 10:54:17 AM)
There used to be a column that "graded" recruiting by position. It also gave a list of preferred recruits. Any chance we'll see that again?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:55:43 AM)
I'm sure we'll come up with something. Last year, we did the Quick Read. I thought that was a good quick read on what was happening. Maybe we'll bring that back. I am just not a percentage guy. For any of us to say we know where these kids are going, that's kind of ridiculous. We aren't inside their heads. We can only go off what they say. There have been instances where we've been led astray as well (and get pounded for it).

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:58:41 AM)
Do you think they really needed to change the clock rules this year? I really don't care if the game is four hours long. They could shorten that up by showing less commercials. Bad move IMO.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:00:45 AM)
Yes, they need a happy medium. I suggested keeping it as is, but have a 2- or 3-minute warning at the end of each half where they revert back to the old rules (does not roll on kickoffs and does not roll before the first play of a new series). That's what the NFL does. They go back to their old rules in the final 5 minutes. In college basketball, they stop the clock on makes in the final minute, so the precedent is there to have different timing rules at the end of a half. The 2- or 3-minute warning would give them another spot for a commercial and another clock stoppage. I bet if they did what I suggest ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:01:11 AM)
They would gain back about 5-7 of the plays the 12-15 plays they have lost with these new rules. That would be a happy medium for me.

MacAuley says BuckeyesBy17 (Sep 22, 2006 11:01:53 AM)
Has anyone ever expressed any interest in doing a chat with Dr. Woods from the OSU Marching Band?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:02:10 AM)
We did a band issue of the magazine 2 years ago. I'm sure it might be interesting.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 11:02:13 AM)
Do you think Charlie Weiss will live out a ten year contract in South Bend?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:02:18 AM)
No, probably not.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:02:48 AM)
Can't say if that means he goes back to the NFL or just wears out his welcome there. But I can't see this lasting 10 years.

ottobuck (Sep 22, 2006 11:02:54 AM)
Boys , put a fork in it , the Reds are done . What about them BENGALS! WHO-DEY?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:03:11 AM)
You can squawk until Sunday, I guess.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:03:13 AM)
Ha ha.

osudave55 (Sep 22, 2006 11:03:17 AM)
How much more do you think we'll see of Robert Rose this week?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:03:40 AM)
Not much different. Maybe Rose supplants one of the 4 ends, but I think he's still the swing guy for now. He is learning.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 11:03:47 AM)
any upsets this weekend?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:04:48 AM)
MSU over ND, Purdue at home over Minnesota. That's about all I see.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 11:04:54 AM)
Has the BB team started practice? What are you expecting from Coach Foster's group this year?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:06:36 AM)
When school started, they could meet with the coaches maybe in small groups. Matta had been counting the days down until he could get his hands on those guys. Hoskins needs to come back and they need somebody other than she, Davenport and Packer to step up and contribute if they expect to approach last year's success and beat the good teams. They'll win 25 games by showing up with that trio, but whether they can win 35 and get to the Final Four depends on how the young people step up. They lose some good program kids like Merrill, Allen and Wilburn, so they need some others to step up.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:06:58 AM)
Anything else today?

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 11:08:06 AM)
Smalls get on the field?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:08:33 AM)
Yeah, he had 3 catches last week. There's only one ball and now 7 receivers vying for it. Good problem to have. Small looks like a keeper.

osudave55 (Sep 22, 2006 11:08:36 AM)
How many yards do you think Pittman will have rushing and Troy passing?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:10:10 AM)
Pittman will be 25 for 100. He will have to work hard for it. I think Smith could approach 250 yards if he gets the proper protection and blitz pickups.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 11:10:12 AM)
Where is Lyons?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:10:47 AM)
He was hurt in camp. I forget exactly what it was. He may have been wearing a sling. I don't recall. May take a few weeks for him to get into the loop.

MacAuley says BuckeyesBy17 (Sep 22, 2006 11:11:06 AM)
Do you know if the Penn St Band is in town for the game? I'm guessing they did not get an invitation.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:12:19 AM)
I don't honestly know. They usually come here, I believe. With it being a Big Ten game, I think if they request it the home team obliges it. I'm sure that's all done months ago so seats can be blocked off.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:12:47 AM)
Guys, it is 2:27 p.m. This has been a lot of fun. Enjoy the game and stop back on Monday for Duane Long.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:13:38 AM)
Remember, there is only one Bucknuts.com where you can talk to Gary, Duane, Nevada, Kyle, Dave and experts from Scout and experts on other schools. That's five Chats this week and we may, honestly, do as many as 6 next week. This is the real deal!

MacAuley says BuckeyesBy17 (Sep 22, 2006 11:13:42 AM)
Thanks Steve !!! GO BUCKS !!!

ottobuck (Sep 22, 2006 11:13:44 AM)
Thanks Steve, great chat! A Scarlet & Gray OH-

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 11:13:47 AM)
Go buckeyes

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Duane Long to Chat Monday at 1 p.m. Here we go.

keato (Sep 22, 2006 9:49:03 AM)
Steve, may as well start this off with a bang!!! When do you think Teddy Ballgame is going to figure out that running North and South is better than tiptoeing East and West when returning punts? (Roundtown by 2 touchdowns!!)

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:49:37 AM)
Hello, Keato, I agree Tigers by 2 TDs over the hated Braves (and don't tell Charles Babb that because he's an LE grad). OK ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:50:40 AM)
Ted hasn't gotten much done yet in the return game. He's scoring plenty of TDs on offense, though. Teams have kicked away from him and made the offense earn it. Be patient, somebody will screw up at some point and he'll get loose. Would be great if some of those happen during the Big ten and help them out in the conference.

ottobuck (Sep 22, 2006 9:51:05 AM)
Is Roy Hall the Buckeye to get the first TD?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:54:05 AM)
I apologize, I lost my service in the middle of that. 4-5 questions in the queue are gone, so we're starting over. i did get the question on Roy Hall, though ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:54:51 AM)
Would be great to get Roy Hall going, that is for sure. He may have an advantage on PSU's smaller DBs. They need Hall to help the offense, no doubt.

Poz79 (Sep 22, 2006 9:54:54 AM)
Steve did you give a score for tomorrow yet?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:55:37 AM)
Yeah, I originally picked 34-17 before knowing what the spread was. When I heard it was 17, I moved mine to 35-17. I don't think PSU is as bad as they showed against ND. But I think OSU is clearly superior here.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 9:55:41 AM)
What are your thoughts on the recruiting scene planned for this weekend? The Bucks seem to have gotten away from heavy recruiting weekends the last couple of seasons, but obviously they are taking a different tact this year. Do you think they are actually letting the recruits convince each other to be Buckeyes this weekend?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:56:58 AM)
It is a big weekend. They have 4 OOS official visits with Greg Little (great prospect), Derrick Morgan (DL fills a need), James Scott and Devon Still (versatile line prospect with offers from everybody). Plus, you have the juniors like Williams, Long, Adams and Brewster and many others ....

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:57:48 AM)
Scholarship spots are so tight this year and next that they won't be wasting time on guys going elsewhere. That is for sure. I think it is all a good sign. Hey, after that Texas game, they may have Texas kids wanting to play at OSU (ha ha). They're hot right now.

keato (Sep 22, 2006 9:57:56 AM)
Steve, I saw the clip on E. Clifford and I was blown away!!! How in the world is this kid only ranked like the 17th best safety in the nation??? Good looking kid who will have a chance to contribute right away. What are you thoughts?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:59:21 AM)
We have him No. 2 in Ohio behind Ben Martin, so we know and respect what he can do. I think he had 145 tackles in 12 games last year. Scout has him No. 12 at safety. Bob L. says those rankings are out of date and erroneous. He'll be moving up at safety and probly into the top 100 nationally. He is 6-2, 190 and can run like a deer and hit like a ton of bricks. His team has won 31 of their last 33 games. He's a winner. Great, great pickup.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 9:59:33 AM)
By we, I meant Ohio High magazine.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 9:59:42 AM)
Ok, we have Clifford, Torrence, and Oliver.... where do they end up playing? How would Major Wright fit into the defense?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:01:15 AM)
Torrence is a corner, Oliver is a safety, Clifford could play any of the 4 positions. If he shows he can cover at this level, he'd be a Chris Gamble-type \"big corner\" (oh my). Wright is listed as a safety. He is 6-1, 204, so that's where he'd be. James Scott, due in this weekend, is more of a pure corner.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:01:26 AM)
It looks like Little, Scott, and Still are coming to Columbus this weekend. Can you tell us if we have a chance for any/all of these guys?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:02:39 AM)
Probably 20-25 percent shot on each. They each have a great list of schools. Little, I think is also looking at ND and USC. Still has Michigan, Miami, FSU and others. These are guys who want to take 4-5 visits and then decide, so I think Ohio State is in the running. But would not consider OSU as the definitive favorite for any of them. Maybe that changes after this weekend.

ottobuck (Sep 22, 2006 10:02:43 AM)
Whats the weather going to be and how's the playing field look?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:03:41 AM)
I imagine they have tried all week to salvage it. I have not been back over there since the game. They were working feverishly on it, injecting it with sand and seeding it and doing whatever they could to get it right. My guess is they will cover it overnight with so much rain expected. ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:04:08 AM)
I guess it is quite a front of weather coming through. Weather.com says 60 percent chance of rain, T-storms possible and highs in mid-70s. Not good.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:04:13 AM)
JoePa has me convinced there is no chance they can win here this weekend. What do you think he is selling his players?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:05:53 AM)
He has certainly played the Lou \"we have no chance at all against this great team\" Holtz card. (Holtz could make Navy sound like a national championship team ... ha ha.) Paterno has taken the pressure off his team. Nothing is expected, so if they show anything at all they may consider it a win. I dunno. Watching the PSU-ND game, I'm honestly not sure how they did it. Quinn stood in all day and carved them apart.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:06:05 AM)
I don't see any way Notre Dame can handle Spary in East Lansing. Do you have any thoughts?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:06:59 AM)
I agree. I am picking MSU. I watched some of ND-Michigan last night and today and ND was just feeble. They can't defend the pass. MSU is coming off a GREAT win at Pitt. Stanton is tough. This one could again be in the 40s. But I like the Spartans at home.

keato (Sep 22, 2006 10:07:06 AM)
Steve, with the weather being a factor for the game do you see Troy maybe run the ball a little more? I think the Reds trade the Dunner this winter!!!

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:07:50 AM)
I just looked this up and Troy had 611 yards and 11 TDs rushing last year. This year he is like 12 carries for minus-14. That has to change at some point. PSU's front 7 is pretty good, maybe he gets loose here. I dunno. ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:08:37 AM)
If they trade Dunn, they need a front line SP. I'm not sure he'll get you that. His value is the most it will be anywhere in Cinti. because of the short porch to right (although most of his one-run HRs would be out of any park).

ottobuck (Sep 22, 2006 10:08:46 AM)
Is the \"Scarlet Out\" with or with Gray stripes?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:08:50 AM)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:09:01 AM)
I like the new unis. They're 3-0 with them.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:09:06 AM)
With Pitt, Wells, Wells, Saine, and Herron on the roster next year, do we have any room to add another this year? If so who? Clay? Hughes?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:09:47 AM)
I don't think there is any urgency to add another RB at this time. If Pittman declares, then maybe they take another one. We'll see what they say after Clay, Hughes, whoever else may visit.

Poz79 (Sep 22, 2006 10:09:53 AM)
Tress sounds like he would prefer field turf how about you? Do you see that change coming in the near future?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:11:02 AM)
I like the grass. I think since the buildout that has impacted the amount of sunlight and shade the grass gets at the stadium. They are trying to grow grass between two skyscrapers. Michigan finally gave up on it. The grass also sits below the floodplain, so they have to pump water out into the river. ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:11:22 AM)
I'd rather they play on grass, but it may make more sense to switch to the FieldTurf. A lot of places have it.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:11:33 AM)
Buckeye Nation seems convinced this is going to be an easy W. Do you think the team is going to have the proper focus, or might they be reading to many press clippings? If Coop was coaching I'd be scared to death.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:12:49 AM)
Penn State is still Penn State. It is a respectable opponent. Joe Daniels said they are well coached. You may get them once on something, but never twice because they adjust so well. I think they are in transition with so many new guys (even 5 senior starters who never started before). Morelli is green as grass as well. They screwed up his career by not redshirting him in 2004.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:13:10 AM)
But I think OSU comes out strong and gets some things going early here (unlike last week).

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:13:16 AM)
Do we need Derrick Morgan or Soloman Thomas if we get B. Martin? Which ones are we most likely to get?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:14:57 AM)
I have not seen Morgan in action. Strictly going off the Scout rankings at DE, Martin is 8, Morgan is 17 and Thomas is 26. I like Martin and Thomas a lot. Maybe they only want to take 2 of them. They really need more help at DT than DE, but the great Bill Conley once told me, \"You can never have enough good big guys who can run.\"

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:15:48 AM)
What other WRs do we add this year?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:16:49 AM)
Well, they have Taurian Washington and Dane Sanzenbacher. They only need one more. Deonte Thompson is mentioning Ohio State more and more, and that's a good sign. Greg Little is ranked as an LB, but he could be an impact WR at 6-3, 205. It would be a luxury to take a third great one, they certainly do not need to reach here.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:16:56 AM)
Are you at all worried about Penn State burning us running the ball on the outside or can we finally figure out that riddle?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:17:59 AM)
Hunt is not that good outside the tackles. Maybe I'm selling him short, but he probably won't be turning the corner and ripping off 20-yard runs. He gets his in 5-6 yard chunks between the tackles. I think they'll have trouble running on this defense. Monitor who plays defense this week for OSU. That will tell you who the coaches have the most faith in.

TexasBuckeye (Sep 22, 2006 10:18:10 AM)
Joining late, maybe this has been asked but the info I have seen says this class may be 18 or so. Given the 9 in play so far, what would the remaining position priorities be for OSU and who do you see filling those remaining positions/slots?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:20:02 AM)
They have 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 OL, 2 corners and 2 safeties already. They need some line help, maybe 2 OL and 3-4 on the DL. A great LB would be nice and they'll probably take one more DB along the way as well. ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:21:11 AM)
There are a ton of possibilities on who fills it out. Maybe they go in hard for OL Mark Wetterer, who was at the game last week. Maybe they get OL Anthony Davis or Kris O'Dowd. Davis likes OSU a lot. If they get 2 of those 3, they'd be extremely happy, I imagine.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:23:16 AM)
On the DL, they want Thomas and Martin and Barksdale and Brent, I guess. They must like Still as well. And same for Martez Wilson and Antonio Jeremiah. If they get 4 of those 6, they'd have to be happy. I think Jermale Hines gets in there as an LB-DB hybrid. We're still 4-1/2 months to signing day and they only have 8-9 spots left. It looks to me they are in position on a ton of GREAT prospects and will have no problem filling this class up.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:23:39 AM)
That's the important thing for Jim Tressel, filling their needs with guys they want to be part of their family and guys who can play.

thegreatcornholio (Sep 22, 2006 10:23:47 AM)
They shouldn't have any problem accomplishing a \"red out\" if they hand out free rain poncho's tomorrow.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:23:50 AM)
Ha ha.

BHorse (Sep 22, 2006 10:23:53 AM)
What impact is the weather goiong to have on the game. Good or bad for the D & O.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:24:34 AM)
In 2000, OSU excelled by running right at PSU in the rain. We see so few really bad weather days, I don't know. Puts a premium on being precise with throws and routes, I guess. OSU has shown it can do that.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:25:03 AM)
Do we see either Robert Rose or L. Wilson this weekend? Wasn't that Rose getting a sack at the end of the last game?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:25:55 AM)
Yes, Homan and Rose sacked Grutza on successive plays with about 7 minutes left. How about that?! Heacock is high on Rose. He has two Leos and two ends. He says Rose is a swing guy who can play either spot. My guess is he gets 15 plays in this game, maybe more if it gets out of hand.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:26:04 AM)
I know that Boone has taken a lot of heat this year but quite honestly he is playing just fine. He is a true Soph playing the hardest position on the line. I think the OSU coaches know that he is a special player. Do you think he deserves the critical talk?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:27:02 AM)
I agree with you. Boone is doing fine. Some of his problems have been glaring. False starts at Texas, where it was loud. A hold here and there, personal foul last week (although it was offsetting). He'll be fine. He just needs experience. He's only played about 6 games.

3dwn9togo (Sep 22, 2006 10:27:09 AM)
what game worries you more Iowa or MSU. Im more worried about MSU myself

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:28:22 AM)
Both are scary. I am taping off Iowa-Iowa State right now to clear out my Tivo so I can tape 5 more games this weekend (ha ha) and their comeback vs. ISU was damn impressive. They played lights out in the second half. MSU played well last week against Pitt. I have now watched a lot of ND. I want to see how MSU does against ND. If they beat ND, it will be a rough trip to East Lansing.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:28:26 AM)
Are you wearing all Scarlet tomorrow?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:28:38 AM)
No, I'll be wearing my blue shirt that shows up well on TV.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:28:47 AM)
That is a joke, by the way.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:29:24 AM)
I caught hell after Texas for wearing blue. The lighting in the interview room was bad. It was a gray shirt. Not sure what I'll be wearing tomorrow.

buckeyeinsaline (Sep 22, 2006 10:29:37 AM)
Steve - You have hit on this during the spring and summer, but Troy Smith has really kept his head on straight and turned things into possibly the greatest QB to ever play for OSU. If he wins out and wins Hesiman, and MNC, done deal. Your thoughts?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:31:56 AM)
I think about how weird it will be to see 10 Smith up there on the facade in the north end zone. He has the potential to make it happen by the way he is playing right now. And the thing is fame is fleeting. It could all be gone for him and this team tomorrow if they don't play well. You don't like to think about it, but imagine what Quinn and ND are going through this week. That's kind of devastating. That's a lot of pressure on a kid and a team. So I say, just enjoy watching him play these next 10 games and whatever happens happens. Some people think Peterson is the Heisman fave even after the loss last week (kind of like a consolation prize since they got jobbed). ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:32:23 AM)
If Smith wins the Heisman, it will be because he proved it over the full 12-game season. That's a long way to go still, so just relax and go with it.

BucklivGa (Sep 22, 2006 10:32:53 AM)
I am concerned with Alex Boone. Is Rehring replacing the right guy?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:34:21 AM)
I haven't spent much time grading the OL. Bollman said Rehring was his best guy last week. Boone ended up getting hurt and didn't finish, although Tressel said he was ready. My thought was they needed Schafer to rep at LT this week in case Boone couldn't go and Rehring then would play LG, but Tressel didn't necessarily agree to that scenario. They say Steve earned it and Boone is fine.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:34:32 AM)
We've been hearing so much about the '08 class. One position that hasn't been talked alot about in that class is RB. Who are the top two or three junior RBs in the state?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:36:10 AM)
Darius Ashley at St. X may be the best, but he is small (around 180). I honestly don't know. I have a list of them after him, but I can't pinpoint anybody I'd say OSU is involved with at this time. They really need Chris Wells to be the guy the next 2 years and same for Saine and Herron

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:36:19 AM)
Can you tell me why DTs aren't dying to get into OSU? They have a real chance at starting on serious national contender next year as a true freshman! I think we get Barksdale, Brent, and another DT this year. Do you?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:37:13 AM)
I think Pitcock will help that. Gholston needs to help OSU land Barksdale. Brent says OSU is one of his favorites. I think this problem will take care of itself. Next year might be rough and maybe Barrow or Worthington moves down to help out.

ottobuck (Sep 22, 2006 10:37:19 AM)
I've never seen Tressel seemed nervous, unlike no fingernails left cooper. Have you?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:38:28 AM)
No, not really. He seems to be so cool under pressure. He has seen everything, it seems, and nothing fazes him. He rarely even has a dialogue with the officials -- other than the Richardson play at Texas.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:39:49 AM)
Unless Iowa shows me something this weekend I will not give them the kind of respect a lot of people are giving them. Maybe Tate's injury has slowed them down but I'm just not worried. I am more afraid of Mich St and Michigan. Your thoughts?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:41:20 AM)
Michigan is for real, that we know and we suspected. They are never down 2 years in a row. They've played in 2 of the last 3 Rose Bowls. MSU is sparking some people and I think they beat ND. Their collapse will come later, as it always does. Iowa is pretty good. Tate gives them a chance to win every game. Chuang, unless you've been to Kinnick, you just don't know. Tough, tough place to play. Of course, this team already won at Texas, so that should serve them well.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:41:41 AM)
This coaching staff seems to be pretty firmly entrenched. Hazel looks like the only possible defection. Do you think he'll be around for awhile, or is he heading out for a better opportunity?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:42:55 AM)
He is the assistant head coach in title (and you assume in salary, perhaps). I think if somebody gives him a chance to be a coordinator at a major BCS school, he might go. He could get NFL looks as well for the job he has done with Holmes, Ginn, Gonzo, etc. But I think he will be here for the time being. He is a good one, IMO.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:43:01 AM)
We really need to get our back-up QBs some reps this week. I think we have a national championship contender next year again, but much of our success will depend on our QB. We will have the o-line, WRs, RBs, TE, and an experienced D-fense, but the QB has to be the man! I don't see Todd or Rob being 'the man'.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:43:14 AM)
Backup QBs reps against Penn State?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:44:22 AM)
This is still Penn State. Did I miss a meeting? If you're lucky, Troy Smith will be in there to fall on the ball at the end of the game. You get them reps against BG, Indiana and Illinois and NW. Not against PSU. Winning the game is job one.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:44:35 AM)
We have to take a TE this year, right? Who?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:45:08 AM)
Maybe a great one like Gronkowski, not a reach. They have Nicol for 2 more years, plus Ballard and Miller. They're fine.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:45:19 AM)
Do we ever recruit players that don't show up on Bucknuts? How do we know who we are recruiting?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:46:19 AM)
Once in a while, there will be a guy like Chimdi Chekwa who was completely below the radar. This is so involved the Scout database probably has 1,000-1500 guys in the database in the senior class. Information is so prevalent that it's almost impossible to \"sneak\" one by us.

nick (Sep 22, 2006 10:46:38 AM)
why does m. wells play? He doesn't break takles, fumbled against Michigan, doesn't juke anyone, has not proven on the field to be fast, etc.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:47:28 AM)
Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe Beanie hasn't shown enough in practice to surpass him. I honestly don't know. Having said that, I think the 30-yard gain on the screen a week or 2 ago shows what Mo can do. He just needs to be used sensibly.

hondo (Sep 22, 2006 10:47:31 AM)
Do you expect to see any verbels this weekend?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:47:49 AM)
Not sure who it would be. No knowledge of anybody planning to do it.

hondo (Sep 22, 2006 10:47:52 AM)
Do the Reds lock up Harang on a long term contract?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:48:58 AM)
Have to or they should just close up shop. I feel bad that I was pulled in again this year by baseball. Those owners/bastards have no desire in having the Reds on an even playing surface with the Yankees, Sox, etc. Why do we continue to follow it? We're like the birds that keep banging our heads against the glass ceiling.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 10:49:27 AM)
Who are the QBs in 08?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:50:20 AM)
Salvadore Battles from Youngstown Rayen and Dominique Britt (6-5) from Trotwood-Madison are a couple to watch. I like Belton this year a lot, but it does not seem like OSU will bite.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:50:33 AM)
How excited are you for the '08 Buckeye defense? Playing all of these guys is going to be huge over the next couple of seasons. And the kickers are really young, and really good, as well.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:53:10 AM)
I agree. They could be a powerhouse again by '08. I'm not so optimistic about '07. I think what you see with PSU this year could be OSU next year with the new QB. As it stands, you would have 7 starters back on offense, 5 starters back on defense and both K-P spots back. Great thing is a ton of guys are playing on both sides. Next year's sked not so tough other than trips to Washington (may be good by then), PSU and Michigan. Probably 9-3 next year and back in the hunt in '08 if they find a winner at QB.

ottobuck (Sep 22, 2006 10:53:28 AM)
Rory Nicol looks like he's geting more comfortable in the games.Does his contribution keep growing with TD's?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:53:47 AM)
That would be nice. He just needs to play and learn.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:53:51 AM)
Do you think JT has a Scarlet pancho vest?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:53:54 AM)
Ha ha.

MacAuley says BuckeyesBy17 (Sep 22, 2006 10:54:17 AM)
There used to be a column that \"graded\" recruiting by position. It also gave a list of preferred recruits. Any chance we'll see that again?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 10:55:43 AM)
I'm sure we'll come up with something. Last year, we did the Quick Read. I thought that was a good quick read on what was happening. Maybe we'll bring that back. I am just not a percentage guy. For any of us to say we know where these kids are going, that's kind of ridiculous. We aren't inside their heads. We can only go off what they say. There have been instances where we've been led astray as well (and get pounded for it).

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 10:58:41 AM)
Do you think they really needed to change the clock rules this year? I really don't care if the game is four hours long. They could shorten that up by showing less commercials. Bad move IMO.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:00:45 AM)
Yes, they need a happy medium. I suggested keeping it as is, but have a 2- or 3-minute warning at the end of each half where they revert back to the old rules (does not roll on kickoffs and does not roll before the first play of a new series). That's what the NFL does. They go back to their old rules in the final 5 minutes. In college basketball, they stop the clock on makes in the final minute, so the precedent is there to have different timing rules at the end of a half. The 2- or 3-minute warning would give them another spot for a commercial and another clock stoppage. I bet if they did what I suggest ...

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:01:11 AM)
They would gain back about 5-7 of the plays the 12-15 plays they have lost with these new rules. That would be a happy medium for me.

MacAuley says BuckeyesBy17 (Sep 22, 2006 11:01:53 AM)
Has anyone ever expressed any interest in doing a chat with Dr. Woods from the OSU Marching Band?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:02:10 AM)
We did a band issue of the magazine 2 years ago. I'm sure it might be interesting.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 11:02:13 AM)
Do you think Charlie Weiss will live out a ten year contract in South Bend?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:02:18 AM)
No, probably not.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:02:48 AM)
Can't say if that means he goes back to the NFL or just wears out his welcome there. But I can't see this lasting 10 years.

ottobuck (Sep 22, 2006 11:02:54 AM)
Boys , put a fork in it , the Reds are done . What about them BENGALS! WHO-DEY?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:03:11 AM)
You can squawk until Sunday, I guess.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:03:13 AM)
Ha ha.

osudave55 (Sep 22, 2006 11:03:17 AM)
How much more do you think we'll see of Robert Rose this week?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:03:40 AM)
Not much different. Maybe Rose supplants one of the 4 ends, but I think he's still the swing guy for now. He is learning.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 11:03:47 AM)
any upsets this weekend?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:04:48 AM)
MSU over ND, Purdue at home over Minnesota. That's about all I see.

edbuck51 (Sep 22, 2006 11:04:54 AM)
Has the BB team started practice? What are you expecting from Coach Foster's group this year?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:06:36 AM)
When school started, they could meet with the coaches maybe in small groups. Matta had been counting the days down until he could get his hands on those guys. Hoskins needs to come back and they need somebody other than she, Davenport and Packer to step up and contribute if they expect to approach last year's success and beat the good teams. They'll win 25 games by showing up with that trio, but whether they can win 35 and get to the Final Four depends on how the young people step up. They lose some good program kids like Merrill, Allen and Wilburn, so they need some others to step up.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:06:58 AM)
Anything else today?

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 11:08:06 AM)
Smalls get on the field?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:08:33 AM)
Yeah, he had 3 catches last week. There's only one ball and now 7 receivers vying for it. Good problem to have. Small looks like a keeper.

osudave55 (Sep 22, 2006 11:08:36 AM)
How many yards do you think Pittman will have rushing and Troy passing?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:10:10 AM)
Pittman will be 25 for 100. He will have to work hard for it. I think Smith could approach 250 yards if he gets the proper protection and blitz pickups.

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 11:10:12 AM)
Where is Lyons?

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:10:47 AM)
He was hurt in camp. I forget exactly what it was. He may have been wearing a sling. I don't recall. May take a few weeks for him to get into the loop.

MacAuley says BuckeyesBy17 (Sep 22, 2006 11:11:06 AM)
Do you know if the Penn St Band is in town for the game? I'm guessing they did not get an invitation.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:12:19 AM)
I don't honestly know. They usually come here, I believe. With it being a Big Ten game, I think if they request it the home team obliges it. I'm sure that's all done months ago so seats can be blocked off.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:12:47 AM)
Guys, it is 2:27 p.m. This has been a lot of fun. Enjoy the game and stop back on Monday for Duane Long.

SteveHelwagen (Sep 22, 2006 11:13:38 AM)
Remember, there is only one Bucknuts.com where you can talk to Gary, Duane, Nevada, Kyle, Dave and experts from Scout and experts on other schools. That's five Chats this week and we may, honestly, do as many as 6 next week. This is the real deal!

MacAuley says BuckeyesBy17 (Sep 22, 2006 11:13:42 AM)
Thanks Steve !!! GO BUCKS !!!

ottobuck (Sep 22, 2006 11:13:44 AM)
Thanks Steve, great chat! A Scarlet & Gray OH-

chuangtsu (Sep 22, 2006 11:13:47 AM)
Go buckeyes

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