Helwagen Chat: Oct. 6 Archive

Here are excerpts from Friday's Chat with Bucknuts.com managing editor Steve Helwagen. He conducts these Chat sessions each week for Bucknuts.com subscribers. Stop by Monday at 1 p.m. for a Chat with Bob Lichtenfels of Scout.com.

utbuck (Oct 6, 2006 9:46:45 AM)
how much will the loss of anderson russel hurt the D this week?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 9:46:59 AM)
Well, it's obviously not this week that matters ...

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 9:48:15 AM)
Russell was not a safety by trade, but he picked it up quick. There is a reason he was starting ahead of O'Neal. But what can you do? You play the guys you have and move on. His loss could hurt them a lot over the stretch run. You wanted to be at full strength for Michigan. That's not the case now, but if he's the only guy they lose between now and then, they should be OK.

mckbuckeye (Oct 6, 2006 9:48:26 AM)
Steve- I don't think Russel loss will hurt much - gives O'Neil lots of practice before we play scUM, Agree?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 9:48:50 AM)
Yes, the upside is O'Neal gets 6 games to prep for Michigan. They will coach him up. I think he'll be OK.

acesaces (Oct 6, 2006 9:49:46 AM)
Hi Steve How long do the starters go tomorrow ?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 9:51:11 AM)
Well, until the game is comfortably decided. They will probably sub if and when they get up 21 points in the first half and the starters will be done if they ever get up by 28 in the second half (after likely playing the first series of the half, either way). I picked 46-10, but it may not be a blowout, per se, until later on.

mckbuckeye (Oct 6, 2006 9:51:14 AM)
Steve - any new updates on Oden - is late Nov. possible?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 9:52:59 AM)
There is nothing new to report on Greg Oden. It could be anywhere from late Nov. to early Jan. They will have a thin roster until he gets back. I guess just be patient. Their media day is next week, but I presume Matta will continue with the company line -- everything sounds good, no firm timetable for him to return.

mckbuckeye (Oct 6, 2006 9:53:08 AM)
Wasn't O'Neal close to a starting possition at the beginning of the season?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 9:54:31 AM)
O'Neal was supposed to start at strong safety, but they went with Brandon Mitchell there instead. The spring ended with O'Neal and Patterson as the starters, but Mitchell and Russell ended up coming through camp and the first week or so as the starters. So, yeah, O'Neal was in this position previously. We'll see how he fares this time around.

utbuck (Oct 6, 2006 9:54:36 AM)
Will we begin to see Coleman more on nickel sets?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 9:55:47 AM)
Maybe, my guess is the 5 "starting" DBs are O'Neal, Mitchell, Washington, Smith and Jenkins. Washington and/or Smith would be considered the nickel. But they will need more guys -- Patterson, Amos, Coleman, etc. to fill in as well. They say Gant is in the two-deep, but I imagine they'd like to RS him if at all possible ...

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 9:56:12 AM)
Then again, the next 5 or 6 games will allow ample opportunity for a lot of guys to play (i.e. they should not be nail-biters).

mckbuckeye (Oct 6, 2006 9:56:20 AM)
Gary thought the Schoenhoft would be the starter next year. I think Boeckman has the edge (he has been here for quite a while with the gray and red shirt). What do you think?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 9:58:06 AM)
I think it is Boeckman at the start. The season sets up well early with the games against Akron and YSU and even a road game at Washington (could be a tricky one). Schoenhoft is in his second year at Ohio State and just needs to cut down a bit on the picks, perhaps. Henton is the wild card. The sooner he learns the offense, the more of a chance he has to crash the party.

Hicks74 (Oct 6, 2006 9:58:25 AM)
Hi Steve - With the easier stretch of the schedule here would it be smart to mix in a frosh like Connor Smith or Browning on "O" or Larimore on D just to get some game experience so they do not go through such a baptism of fire in positions of need next year ?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 9:58:33 AM)
No, heavens no. ...

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:01:11 AM)
You don't waste a year just because you have some blowout games to mix guys in. They have not been needed this year to date. OSU has enough OL depth to play the Skinner, Mitchum, Person, Schafer, etc. group and not worry about seasoning Smith and Browning (i.e. they aren't necessarily needed). At DT, they have Denlinger and Penton and Abdallah. Would be nice to see how Larimore mixes in, but you would get more out of him in 2010, yes?, than you would in 2006.

utbuck (Oct 6, 2006 10:01:23 AM)
with all the young depth at the DB positions, is there a reason to take 4 or 5 in this upcoming class? or are those players just that good that we want them?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:02:56 AM)
You have 3 verbals now with Torrence as a CB, Oliver as a S and Clifford likely as a S or could be a CB. I think they get 1-2 more in this class, maybe a pure CB. I have no problem with it. They seem to know what they're doing.

mckbuckeye (Oct 6, 2006 10:03:02 AM)
Steve - any news on commits from the OL prospects in 08? It's like waiting to open Christmas presents isn't it?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:04:16 AM)
It seems to be. I wonder if those guys who are hot for Ohio State are being asked/told to hold off so it doesn't impact 2007 recruiting. But it looks like just a matter of time until OSU (again) gets off to a running start with the next class. ...

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:04:51 AM)
My guess is Mike Adams is a pretty good bet to commit when given the green light. (Mike will be Dave Biddle's guest on the Recruiting Roundtable show next week on the site.)

AspenBuck (Oct 6, 2006 10:05:16 AM)
If Pittman continues to impress as he has been and goes to the league, which freshman steps up to fill the vacant #3 RB spot and which one redshirts?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:06:18 AM)
That's presupposing a lot. I guess Pittman could try and make that leap. He is as good as Ohio State has had there in a long time. I like Saine a lot, but Boom Herron is starting to get some things done too. My vote today would be Saine.

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 10:06:23 AM)
Any news on Ben Martin?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:07:41 AM)
He will play in the Army A-A game. He is going to ND-Stanford this weekend, I believe. He was at Florida-Tenn. last month. Was going to come to OSU for PSU but his game was moved to Sat. Figures to be up for Michigan. Does not seem to be in a big hurry to make a decision. We still think OSU is the team to beat.

Hicks74 (Oct 6, 2006 10:08:24 AM)
Any updates on Anthony Davis ? I cannot see O'Dowd making the trek from AZ quite honestly .

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:10:26 AM)
Davis lists USC, Ohio State, Florida State, Rutgers and Miami. I think getting him out to visit and see Jenkins would be key there. O'Dowd is also supposed to visit, so just let it play out.

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 10:10:57 AM)
Is Barksdale worth all of this trouble? He seems to give off a vibe that is contrary to what JT wants from his kids. Your gut feeling?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:13:36 AM)
This "JT wants" thing kills me sometimes. JT is a football coach. Yes, he wants kids who are strong academically and mentally, but believe me he wants guys who can play football. I assume Barksdale falls under that category. I have no gut feeling. The kid was at OSU-PSU and is going to UM for the MSU game this weekend. He's been to ND a couple times. Sounds to me like his head is spinning. Just let him sort it out. OSU could certainly use a big DT that can play. That much we know.

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 10:14:01 AM)
I'm not sure if you've touched on it yet, but I think the Russell injury is exactly what O'Neal needed (a little fire under his butt). Your thoughts?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:14:04 AM)
Agreed ...

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:14:57 AM)
It would be easy for a young guy to get discouraged after not getting to start. But this is the chance he needs. With Mitchell leaving after this year, next year's starters could be Russell and O'Neal and the Buckeyes would not miss a beat. Great break for O'Neal, now he needs to make the most of it.

Hicks74 (Oct 6, 2006 10:15:02 AM)
Steve - Do you have a fav, or two for the Div I State Football Champ ?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:16:09 AM)
I said Lakewood St. Ed before the season, I think, and I'll stay with them. St. Ed and St. Ignatius have the Holy War in a week or 2, then they could meet again in the regional semis or regional finals ...

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:16:44 AM)
Both of those teams are undefeated. Canton McKinley seems to be the team to beat in Region 2. ...

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:17:14 AM)
Central Ohio has 2-3 nice teams with Hilliard Davidson, Westerville South and Dublin Coffman. I like South because of Pentello. ...

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:18:05 AM)
Region 4 comes down to St. X and Colerain (as always). I like Colerain to take that one. My title game is St. Ed over Colerain. Going to be a great tournament, no doubt.

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:18:18 AM)
St. Ed has never won won. Remember that, too.

MisterIowasprobationofficer (Oct 6, 2006 10:18:32 AM)
How is clifford not going to make the AA game. I've already been arguing with Millart about it. He said I was putting down other players by pointing out they were only 3 star recruits and were unranked at their position but had one thing in Common. They were ND recruits. The only put down I can see in there is they are indeed ND commits, but that was there choice. hA

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:20:25 AM)
It is a joke. Clifford can run and play. He could play any of the 4 DB positions if he shows he can turn his hips at the college level. As it was explained to me, Scout has some input but the organizers look to Lemming to help fill in cracks and make some decisions as well. Part of Ohio's problem is Scout neglected it and downrated the guys here until it was too late. These decisions are made in July and Aug. so the Army can travel out to sites in Sept. and Oct. and make the announcements. They should hold some spots for guys who actually play well in the current senior year. ...

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:21:13 AM)
The game is on NBC. Not sure if they dictate that it should have an "ND flavor" or not, but it is apparent that between Lemming and NBC that is exactly what is happening. Scout's relationship is more for access to the practices and combine than in the selection process, it seems.

jimmy (Oct 6, 2006 10:21:52 AM)
Are there any other DT on the radar screen for OSU other than Jeremiah, Brent and Barksdale?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:22:35 AM)
A kid from Georgia, Cameron Heyward, also seems to be listing OSU. They sound like they are close to landing Brent and have a good shot at Barksdale. If Jeremiah checks out academically, he should be there as well.

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 10:23:01 AM)
Ginn is gone this year, but do you think there is any chance we lose Gonzo too?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:23:29 AM)
No, I don't think so. Gonzo probably has some big academic aspirations and he can meet those by staying and getting the degree or graduate degree next year.

utbuck (Oct 6, 2006 10:23:33 AM)
Should we be worried at all about Anthony Turner's ability to run?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:24:23 AM)
Sure, he and Freddie Barnes seem to be pretty good. The TB is also 220 pounds as well. I don't know if they'll be able to sustain it over 4 quarters. At some point, Turner may need to complete a pass or 2.

buckeyeinsaline (Oct 6, 2006 10:24:26 AM)
Steve - Your projection last week was a great one. What are you predicting for htis weekend score wise?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:25:59 AM)
That late TD got me. There weren't many people predicting a 2 TD victory. Most were saying OSU by 3-7 points. But I saw Iowa could not stop the run and that led me to my 31-17 pick. That's what the score was until the late TD pass to Robiskie. I originally said 45-10, but when the line moved to 35, I moved my pick to 46-10. Probably will not be that easy, but OSU should have too much for BG.

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 10:26:05 AM)
Can Clifford push for playing time next year?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:26:50 AM)
Yes, I think so. He is a big DB who can run and hit. He is a difference maker. Could be a Gamble-like corner. OSU loses Mitchell and Smith, opening up 2 spots in the secondary. I think Clifford has as good a chance as anybody to get in there next year.

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 10:27:09 AM)
Why Evege and not Mabin?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:28:08 AM)
Good question. Maybe they see Evege as more of a pure corner than Mabin, who may be better known for what he does on offense. But I sure like Mabin a lot. Hey, if Bam Childress had a spot here, Mabin could as well.

smu0104 (Oct 6, 2006 10:28:28 AM)
Good afternoon Steve. We all love Gonzo. He is a fantastic talent, an ever better person, and is a blast to watch. He has really exploded onto the national scene this year. That being said, I find myself constantly defending Ted Ginn against the critics for the usual reasons (bad hands, poor route running, not a complete receiver, etc.) and lately I keep hearing people say Gonzo is becoming a better pro prospect than Ginn. As much I love AG, please elaborate just why TGII is so great and why you feel he is an elite NFL prospect and a better one than Gonzo at that (if you do feel that way). Thank you.

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:30:56 AM)
Ted is a special player. He has made great strides as a route runner. There are things he can do that only he can do. We know that because we have seen him do them many times. He is facing a lot of extra attention from opposing defenses. That is helping Gonzo get open and make plays. Gonzo is also a special talent. He is just a great football player. They bring different things to the table. It is a special blend that Ohio State has them both and a great quarterback and a great tailback at the same time. The stars were aligned just right to make this work. ...

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:32:09 AM)
As for who has the better upside as a pro prospect, that's hard to say. My guess is both would be first-day guys. Ted is probably a first rounder today and Gonzo working his way up there. That play at Iowa was one of the most amazing things I have ever seen ...

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:33:37 AM)
I was on the field on the far sideline (from the camera). Dave said they have an LB on Gonzo and we knew something was up. He ran the stop-and-go, caught the ball and weaved his magic. The great thing was how he finished it. He got to that sideline and said I'm scoring on this one. That is what makes him special. A lot of guys make the catch, get the first down and get out of bounds. Gonzo was going for broke on that one. He threw caution to the wind and made an incredible play.

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 10:33:55 AM)
Not that it matters, but Josh Brent is now rated ahead of Barksdale.... who would you rather have? Do we get them both?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:34:52 AM)
Yes, would be great to get them both. Brent seems to know OSU is best for him. Barksdale sees what Gholston is doing and that can only help. I can't compare them as players. This would be a great haul.

AspenBuck (Oct 6, 2006 10:35:17 AM)
Is this the week that Hartline gets free and teases us a bit with his explosiveness? The blocking is awesome, but I want to see that guy in the open field!

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:35:55 AM)
Wouldn't that be great to get he and Robiskie 5-6 catches each this week? Maybe mix in some Small, Hall and Dukes, too. How about the tight ends while we're at it (ha ha).

chas15 (Oct 6, 2006 10:36:02 AM)
From the national rankings, what team do you think would have the best chance of beating the Bucks the way they are playing right now?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:38:41 AM)
West Virginia, say what you want about their schedule, is pretty good. Auburn has a bunch of tough challenges but they could do it, perhaps. And then there is USC as well. They had a scare last week. They may not survive Cal and/or Oregon, though, in the Pac-10. Those seem to be the best contenders outside the Big Ten. Michigan sure seems to be on track now as well. UM goes home with MSU, at Penn State (at night) and home with Iowa. If they make it through those 3 unscathed, they'll skate all the way to Cols.

buckeyeinsaline (Oct 6, 2006 10:38:54 AM)
Steve - What is your prediction on MSU - UM this weekend? Sparty has been cocky this week in the papers up here.

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:40:55 AM)
I picked Michigan 37-10. UM has been lights out. Granted, they have needed OT to beat MSU each of last 2 years. And a win would make MSU's season. But MSU is a total trainwreck right now. Ringer is out and Stanton may be as well. If Sparty has been cocky, I'm not sure what they could say that would have any kind of truth to it.

buckeyeinsaline (Oct 6, 2006 10:41:06 AM)
Steve - Do you know if Deonte Allen really contacted OSU staff about taking another look around? After Last nights game, might be wise.

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:41:34 AM)
No, have not heard that, but Gary has maintained since he was up there that OSU still had an outside shot. We may see them in person next week on our way to MSU.

jimmy (Oct 6, 2006 10:41:52 AM)
Has there been any new development with Solomon Thomas?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:42:36 AM)
No, not that I am aware. I think he wants to improve his test score. After what happened to Chichester there last year, my guess is his coach is telling him to go slow and make sure everything is kosher before he verbals, etc.

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 10:42:49 AM)
Barksdale response: "JT wants" kids that are going to make it on the field, he does hold back offers to questionable students and personalities even when they are super football players.... there is a type of kid that JT likes! -even if it "Kills" you!

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:43:59 AM)
That's fine. He may have some standards, etc. He always says we want guys who mix with our guys. That's fine and good. But they also have to have guys who can play. They need DTs bad as well. Those were my points. You never cut off your nose to spite your face. If a kid is qualified, can play and wants to come there and you want him, you generally take him.

AspenBuck (Oct 6, 2006 10:44:05 AM)
Steve, any Div. I prospects on Iggy this year? We hear a lot about the Ed's kids, but Ignatius has impressed and I would assume that there must be a couple.

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:44:42 AM)
Not sure they have any seniors who are on the radar. Maybe they have some underclassmen. They are just playing great team football. They are entering the meat portion of the schedule as well with Harding, St. Ed, etc.

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 10:44:48 AM)
Who is your best guess for our next committ? (I'm sure you hate this question, but you know we have to ask it)

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:46:55 AM)
I dunno. I don't see anybody on the verge. Maybe Ben Martin, but that doesn't seem imminent.

jimmy (Oct 6, 2006 10:46:59 AM)
Do you anticipate Pittman declaring for the NFL draft after this year?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:47:03 AM)
No, I don't.

hammbone1928 (Oct 6, 2006 10:47:07 AM)
Is JT offering an unusal amount of Schollies to Jr's?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:48:05 AM)
They have offered more juniors earlier than they usually do. But I think they are set on who they want and they're going after them.

buckeyeinsaline (Oct 6, 2006 10:48:21 AM)
Steve - I'm a Kirk Herbstreit fan. I love it when Gameday is in Cbus and Herbie gets his boys up on stage in their OSU shirts at the end. Way too good! Anyway... He appears to have 4 boys and I hope the football genes have been pased on. WOuld love to be talking about the recruitment of the 4 Herbstreit kids down the road. Does Herbie talk about the kids abilities much with insiders like yourself?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:48:56 AM)
No, that hasn't come up. I'm sure they are all involved in the usual kid sports, etc. It is a neat story to follow and see how they do over the next few years.

buckeyeinsaline (Oct 6, 2006 10:49:08 AM)
Steve - Have you had a chance to get on the new turf at the shoe? If so, impressions?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:49:34 AM)
No, have not been over there since it was put down. I assume it will work out fine. They have worked so hard at it.

hammbone1928 (Oct 6, 2006 10:49:41 AM)
Do you think with OS being ranked no 1 all yr. & having played in 2 Nat. night games plus having defeated 3 nationally rankd teams that will enable JT to get more OOS players?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:50:06 AM)
Yes, we're seeing more interest in the Buckeyes. But space is tight. They may have to beat the recruits away with a stick this year (ha ha).

utbuck (Oct 6, 2006 10:50:11 AM)
Is Terry going to become a full time starter at some point in this year or will they continue to switch up him and Freeman according to what formation they are in?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:50:28 AM)
looks like a rotation for now. Freeman did make a nice INT, so that shows the plan is working.

ohs (Oct 6, 2006 10:50:32 AM)
just joining. what are chances the Russell gets med redshirt like D'andre?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:50:51 AM)
No chance, from what I see, he played in 5 games. Doubt it happens.

ohs (Oct 6, 2006 10:50:54 AM)
who starts at WR next year? and OL?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:51:19 AM)
WR next year, assuming Ginn is gone, would be Gonzo, Robiskie and Hartline with Small and Dukes also in the rotation.

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:51:51 AM)
OL would probably be Cordle at C, Rehring and Skinner maybe at guards and Boone and Barton at tackles.

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:51:58 AM)
That's a gigantic line.

ohs (Oct 6, 2006 10:52:06 AM)
what is O'neils 40 time? is he as fast as small?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:52:25 AM)
O'Neal was one of the fastest Ohio sprinters when he was a senior. He is fast enough, I assume 4.4 range.

ohs (Oct 6, 2006 10:52:33 AM)
will coleman start next year at DB? and is Aaron Gant all that to be in 2 deep? must be playing well?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:53:18 AM)
Yes, Gant wasa leading tackler in a preseason scrimmage. He can play. Not sure he will play. Will depend on need. Coleman could start next year with Smith leaving. That spot will be open with Washington and others in the mix as well.

ohs (Oct 6, 2006 10:53:21 AM)
what are chances Gonzo goes pro? is pittman good as gone?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:53:43 AM)
I think 25 percent on Gonzo going, 40 percent on Pitt going, 70 or more on Ginn.

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 10:53:52 AM)
How will Hines get a scholarship now if he isn't playing LB? Is it a matter of whether we have any scholarships left?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:54:02 AM)
Yes and if/when he gets what he needs academically as well.

leek (Oct 6, 2006 10:54:06 AM)
hello steve, any chance Sparty raises up this weekend and smites the wicked wolverines?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:54:32 AM)
They took them to OT two years in a row. This could be close or 49-3 like it was a few years ago. I picked UM big (like 37-10 or something).

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 10:54:36 AM)
Any recruits coming to the game?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:55:15 AM)
I am sure there will be some. I have not heard any specific names. The 3:30 games are easier to get to.

hammbone1928 (Oct 6, 2006 10:55:20 AM)
Do think we have any chance at Scott?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:55:27 AM)
Probably only a slight chance.

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 10:55:31 AM)
When does L. Wilson have his coming out party?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:56:03 AM)
He has made a few plays here and there. I am sure Heacock is waiting on that as well. Boy, Gholston has really gotten it done. He was all over the screen in the 1st quarter last week.

utbuck (Oct 6, 2006 10:56:06 AM)
is there any chance that Barton goes pro early?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:56:20 AM)
It is possible, but seems unlikely. I think he really enjoys his time at OSU.

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:56:31 AM)
He could be a captain next year with Pitt and Gonzo if they want it.

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 10:56:42 AM)
When we jump out on BG will we see a lot of backups playing, or does JT want to pad the numbers for Smith and Ginn?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:57:40 AM)
JT doesn't talk a lot about scenarios like that. My guess is they will play until OSU leads by 21 in the first half, then at least the first series of the second half and stay in until they're up 28 or more in the second half. Again, just hope it comes to that. Three years ago, it most certainly did not.

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 10:57:46 AM)
What exactly does Mo Wells bring to the table, and why don't we have a fourth RB?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:58:40 AM)
Erik Haw was the fourth RB and he transferred. Mo Wells, well, I'm not a fan of small backs (hey, I took Duane Long 101, what can I say?). I think he can help them if used in the proper position. It's a crime to keep using a guy to do things he can't execute.

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 10:58:45 AM)
We should see some Zwick and Robby this weekend, right? It seems like a good opportunity to get Robby some snaps for next year!

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:59:13 AM)
Would be great for Troy to get 40-50 snaps, Justin 10-15 and Rob 10-15 as well. Makes sense. Boeckman will not be back this week.

tonyG (Oct 6, 2006 10:59:18 AM)
Steve. Do you remember the last time Pttman fumbled? I don't want to be a jinx, but I don't remember him fumbling in the last 2 seasons. Thanks

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 10:59:50 AM)
Man, I don't remember it. I need to do some research. Great great point. He gets his 5-6 yards a crack and hands the ball to the official.

Hicks74 (Oct 6, 2006 10:59:57 AM)
Steve , How big is Ben Martin ? I saw between 225 and 255 (most recently) ?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 11:00:12 AM)
Not sure if the 255 was a typo or not. He has the frame to carry 240-250.

chuangtsu (Oct 6, 2006 11:00:18 AM)
Does it seem to you that Boom Herron is a little slow? I guess he will be fast enough for the Big Ten if he got the offer.

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 11:00:47 AM)
I don't know. I need to see more of his senior tape. He's putting up 150 a game every week now. I want to see how he does Sat. against St. Ignatius.

Hicks74 (Oct 6, 2006 11:00:54 AM)
Robert Rose is a beast. If he is in only 5 plays he seems to be in the QB's face on 3 of those. Do you think he gets increased time ? He has already blown the redshirt ,no ?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 11:01:12 AM)
Yes, he has blown the RS. Yes, would like to see more of him. He had a sack vs PSU I believe.

bgfalcons (Oct 6, 2006 11:01:16 AM)
Who is the better recruiter in your opinion, Matta or Tressel

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 11:02:37 AM)
Oh man, trick question (ha ha). I want to see how Matta does with his prized recruits. He has never stayed in one spot long enough to coach the great players he has recruited (i.e. Xavier should be good this year coming off an NCAA bid last year). Let's say Matta is among the top 3-4 bkb recruiters and Tressel is among the top 5 ftb recruiters.

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 11:02:57 AM)
Chuangtsu asks who I fear more ...

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 11:03:17 AM)
Michigan or the highest rated of this group -- USC, Auburn or WVU.

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 11:03:30 AM)
Honestly, Michigan. It's a rivalry game and they need the win bad.

kahuna825 (Oct 6, 2006 11:03:39 AM)
What do you think about Eric Berry Steve? It seems to me we might not get him out of the South, seems like he is down to Tenn. and Ga. Also, RoJo appears to head for UM, at least that's what I am thinking. Your thoughts?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 11:03:47 AM)
yes on both counts, likely not coming to OSU.

bgfalcons (Oct 6, 2006 11:03:51 AM)
With the depth at DE, why didnt we redshirt Robert Rose just in case Ben martin Falls thru

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 11:04:03 AM)
Because Rose has and can make an impact this year. That's what I see.

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 11:04:32 AM)
Wilson has been up and down (maybe hurt) and I think they felt like they needed Rose to play. Haven't seen as much as I thought we would out of Barrow, either.

Hicks74 (Oct 6, 2006 11:04:37 AM)
Any update on Underwood or Sirjo ?

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 11:05:05 AM)
Sirjo landed at UC, I believe. Tressel said the loss of Russell would trigger some things with Underwood (maybe he plays at CB and Coleman reps more at safety).

Hicks74 (Oct 6, 2006 11:05:11 AM)
When do they start selling Pitcock jersey's ? Seriously, the linemen are really overlooked

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 11:05:23 AM)
I agree. He'd be an A-A on my ballot. Three sacks against UC. Wow.

bgfalcons (Oct 6, 2006 11:05:28 AM)
With the lack of DT next year and the load of LB, any chance of a 3-4 defense

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 11:05:58 AM)
The old 3-4 question again. gets asked every other month or so. No, they'll be fine at DT. Maybe Barrow moves in there and they have Worthington who could go there too.

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 11:06:03 AM)
Anything else today?

Guest (Oct 6, 2006 11:07:16 AM)
Steve - Thanks for the chat today! Your the MAN!

Guest (Oct 6, 2006 11:07:19 AM)
Great chat! GO BUCKS!

SteveHelwagen (Oct 6, 2006 11:08:02 AM)
OK, guys, I gotta run. Thanks again and enjoy the game.

smu0104 (Oct 6, 2006 11:10:26 AM)
Thanks Steve!

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