Late Shows An Issue For B1G's Eastern Teams

Big Ten schedule-makers did not do their homework by setting up midweek games where Penn State gets back to campus at 3 a.m. or later.

Penn State and Wisconsin square off in a Big Ten game at Kohl Center in Madison Tuesday night. And when we say “night,” we mean it.

The game tips at 9 p.m Eastern, so it can serve as the second half of BTN’s Tuesday doubleheader (which begins with Rutgers at Maryland at 7 p.m). http://www.scout.com/college/penn-state/story/1745379-penn-state-countdo...

If you are debating whether to stay up to watch a game that figures to end after 11 p.m. Eastern, well, stop being so self-centered. 

Because there is a greater issue here, one that further highlights the hypocrisy of the Big Ten (and the NCAA). Show up at an event sponsored by either organization and the term “student-athlete” is jammed down your throat.

Yet by scheduling Eastern teams to play late-tipping games in the Central time zone, the Big Ten is clearly putting athletic and financial considerations far ahead of the academic end of things.

Consider the schedule with which Pat Chambers’ team will be dealing Tuesday night and deep into Wednesday morning.

• Barring overtime(s), we can estimate the game will end around 11:15 p.m. Eastern. 

• After the game, figure it will take 45 minutes for the team meeting, media obligations, players to shower and dress, and the bus to be loaded with gear and people. So PSU will do well to leave the arena at about midnight Eastern.

• It’ll take another 30 minutes to drive to Dane County Airport and have everyone go through security (which is a must, even for charters). Then a two-hour-and-15-minute flight time, from boarding to getting off at University Park Airport. Then a 10-minute drive back to the Jordan Center.

So just to get back to the BJC, you are looking at a conservative ETA of a 2:55 a.m. After that, the players live a short walk or drive away.

None of which takes into account potential travel issues, like the fog that forced the Nittany Lions to be redirected to Pittsburgh while trying to get back from Saturday’s loss at Purdue. From Pittsburgh, they had to load into vans to drive back to Happy Valley.

So the best-case scenario will see Penn State players getting to bed just after 3 a.m.

Then they have to be up in time to make it to 8 a.m. classes. Once there, they are expected to be alert and ready to learn. 

THEN … Penn State has to go through this same grind again Feb. 14, when it has a 9 p.m. Eastern tip at Nebraska. Happy Valentines Day!

None of this would be an issue during semester break or spring break, when the players don’t have to worry about classes. And if Penn State (or anyone else) wants to do this sort of thing to themselves during the nonconference schedule, then that’s on them.

Further, none of this is meant to suggest Penn State is at some kind of competitive disadvantage due to the late-night, road scheduling. The conference has a huge footprint, so long trips to road games are a way of life for everyone. Wisconsin has had some brutal treks to Happy Valley.

But when the very best a college coach can hope for when traveling to a midweek game is to have his players hitting the sack at 3 a.m. with 8 a.m. classes looming — all for the sake of TV revenue — the Big Ten ought to just go ahead and drop the whole “student-athlete” pretense. 

PAT CHAMBERS’ TAKE

Expectedly — and understandably — Chambers did his best to bite his tongue when asked if such scheduling is fair to his players.

“You’re trying to get me in trouble, right?” Chambers initially said with a laugh.

“It’s a Tuesday night game and we have 8 a.m. classes (Wednesday),” he said on a more serious note. “So we’ll get back at 3, and we’re gonna make them go to class. Because that’s what we do and that’s what we’re all about. That’s our foundation and that’s the structure we have here, so they know what they have to do. http://www.scout.com/college/penn-state/story/1748526-yetur-matos-enjoys...

“It’s unfortunate,” he added. “Sometime TV dictates a lot. You wish you could play at 7 or at least 8 (Eastern) — (getting back at) 2 a.m., maybe that’s a little bit better. But a 9 o’clock start Eastern time is tough to swallow when they have class so early on a Wednesday.”

Chambers went on to point out that his players don’t begin classes until 10:30 a.m. on Tuesdays and Thursdays. But even he realized that was beside the point.

“It’s a work in progress,” he said. “I know the NCAA is all over (things) about time demands and the Big Ten is all over (things) about time demands. They’re very conscious of it. So we’ll see if they make some changes as we go along here.”

CENTRAL CASTING

If changes are to be made, a good place to start will be by instituting a rule whereby the eight Big Ten teams from the Eastern time zone are not allowed to be scheduled for road games that tip at 8 p.m. Central (which is 9 p.m. Eastern).

Limit such games to the six teams in the Central time zone (Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern and Wisconsin). They are all on the same clock, so an 8 p.m. tip for one is an 8 p.m. tip for the other.

A caveat would allow the Eastern teams to hit the road for the late Central tips during their semester or spring breaks.


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Penn State and Wisconsin square off in a Big Ten game at Kohl Center in Madison Tuesday night. And when we say “night,” we mean it.

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The game tips at 9 p.m Eastern, so it can serve as the second half of BTN’s Tuesday doubleheader (which begins with Rutgers at Maryland at 7 p.m). http://www.scout.com/college/penn-state/story/1745379-penn-state-countdo...

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If you are debating whether to stay up to watch a game that figures to end after 11 p.m. Eastern, well, stop being so self-centered. 

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Because there is a greater issue here, one that further highlights the hypocrisy of the Big Ten (and the NCAA). Show up at an event sponsored by either organization and the term “student-athlete” is jammed down your throat.

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Yet by scheduling Eastern teams to play late-tipping games in the Central time zone, the Big Ten is clearly putting athletic and financial considerations far ahead of the academic end of things.

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Consider the schedule with which Pat Chambers’ team will be dealing Tuesday night and deep into Wednesday morning.

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• Barring overtime(s), we can estimate the game will end around 11:15 p.m. Eastern. 

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• After the game, figure it will take 45 minutes for the team meeting, media obligations, players to shower and dress, and the bus to be loaded with gear and people. So PSU will do well to leave the arena at about midnight Eastern.

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• It’ll take another 30 minutes to drive to Dane County Airport and have everyone go through security (which is a must, even for charters). Then a two-hour-and-15-minute flight time, from boarding to getting off at University Park Airport. Then a 10-minute drive back to the Jordan Center.

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So just to get back to the BJC, you are looking at a conservative ETA of a 2:55 a.m. After that, the players live a short walk or drive away.

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None of which takes into account potential travel issues, like the fog that forced the Nittany Lions to be redirected to Pittsburgh while trying to get back from Saturday’s loss at Purdue. From Pittsburgh, they had to load into vans to drive back to Happy Valley.

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So the best-case scenario will see Penn State players getting to bed just after 3 a.m.

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Then they have to be up in time to make it to 8 a.m. classes. Once there, they are expected to be alert and ready to learn. 

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THEN … Penn State has to go through this same grind again Feb. 14, when it has a 9 p.m. Eastern tip at Nebraska. Happy Valentines Day!

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None of this would be an issue during semester break or spring break, when the players don’t have to worry about classes. And if Penn State (or anyone else) wants to do this sort of thing to themselves during the nonconference schedule, then that’s on them.

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Further, none of this is meant to suggest Penn State is at some kind of competitive disadvantage due to the late-night, road scheduling. The conference has a huge footprint, so long trips to road games are a way of life for everyone. Wisconsin has had some brutal treks to Happy Valley.

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But when the very best a college coach can hope for when traveling to a midweek game is to have his players hitting the sack at 3 a.m. with 8 a.m. classes looming — all for the sake of TV revenue — the Big Ten ought to just go ahead and drop the whole “student-athlete” pretense. 

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PAT CHAMBERS’ TAKE

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Expectedly — and understandably — Chambers did his best to bite his tongue when asked if such scheduling is fair to his players.

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“You’re trying to get me in trouble, right?” Chambers initially said with a laugh.

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“It’s a Tuesday night game and we have 8 a.m. classes (Wednesday),” he said on a more serious note. “So we’ll get back at 3, and we’re gonna make them go to class. Because that’s what we do and that’s what we’re all about. That’s our foundation and that’s the structure we have here, so they know what they have to do. http://www.scout.com/college/penn-state/story/1748526-yetur-matos-enjoys...

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“It’s unfortunate,” he added. “Sometime TV dictates a lot. You wish you could play at 7 or at least 8 (Eastern) — (getting back at) 2 a.m., maybe that’s a little bit better. But a 9 o’clock start Eastern time is tough to swallow when they have class so early on a Wednesday.”

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Chambers went on to point out that his players don’t begin classes until 10:30 a.m. on Tuesdays and Thursdays. But even he realized that was beside the point.

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“It’s a work in progress,” he said. “I know the NCAA is all over (things) about time demands and the Big Ten is all over (things) about time demands. They’re very conscious of it. So we’ll see if they make some changes as we go along here.”

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CENTRAL CASTING

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If changes are to be made, a good place to start will be by instituting a rule whereby the eight Big Ten teams from the Eastern time zone are not allowed to be scheduled for road games that tip at 8 p.m. Central (which is 9 p.m. Eastern).

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Limit such games to the six teams in the Central time zone (Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern and Wisconsin). They are all on the same clock, so an 8 p.m. tip for one is an 8 p.m. tip for the other.

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A caveat would allow the Eastern teams to hit the road for the late Central tips during their semester or spring breaks.

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Penn State and Wisconsin square off in a Big Ten game at Kohl Center in Madison Tuesday night. And when we say “night,” we mean it.

The game tips at 9 p.m Eastern, so it can serve as the second half of BTN’s Tuesday doubleheader (which begins with Rutgers at Maryland at 7 p.m). http://www.scout.com/college/penn-state/story/1745379-penn-state-countdo...

If you are debating whether to stay up to watch a game that figures to end after 11 p.m. Eastern, well, stop being so self-centered.

Because there is a greater issue here, one that further highlights the hypocrisy of the Big Ten (and the NCAA). Show up at an event sponsored by either organization and the term “student-athlete” is jammed down your throat.

Yet by scheduling Eastern teams to play late-tipping games in the Central time zone, the Big Ten is clearly putting athletic and financial considerations far ahead of the academic end of things.

Consider the schedule with which Pat Chambers’ team will be dealing Tuesday night and deep into Wednesday morning.

• Barring overtime(s), we can estimate the game will end around 11:15 p.m. Eastern.

• After the game, figure it will take 45 minutes for the team meeting, media obligations, players to shower and dress, and the bus to be loaded with gear and people. So PSU will do well to leave the arena at about midnight Eastern.

• It’ll take another 30 minutes to drive to Dane County Airport and have everyone go through security (which is a must, even for charters). Then a two-hour-and-15-minute flight time, from boarding to getting off at University Park Airport. Then a 10-minute drive back to the Jordan Center.

So just to get back to the BJC, you are looking at a conservative ETA of a 2:55 a.m. After that, the players live a short walk or drive away.

None of which takes into account potential travel issues, like the fog that forced the Nittany Lions to be redirected to Pittsburgh while trying to get back from Saturday’s loss at Purdue. From Pittsburgh, they had to load into vans to drive back to Happy Valley.

So the best-case scenario will see Penn State players getting to bed just after 3 a.m.

Then they have to be up in time to make it to 8 a.m. classes. Once there, they are expected to be alert and ready to learn.

THEN … Penn State has to go through this same grind again Feb. 14, when it has a 9 p.m. Eastern tip at Nebraska. Happy Valentines Day!

None of this would be an issue during semester break or spring break, when the players don’t have to worry about classes. And if Penn State (or anyone else) wants to do this sort of thing to themselves during the nonconference schedule, then that’s on them.

Further, none of this is meant to suggest Penn State is at some kind of competitive disadvantage due to the late-night, road scheduling. The conference has a huge footprint, so long trips to road games are a way of life for everyone. Wisconsin has had some brutal treks to Happy Valley.

But when the very best a college coach can hope for when traveling to a midweek game is to have his players hitting the sack at 3 a.m. with 8 a.m. classes looming — all for the sake of TV revenue — the Big Ten ought to just go ahead and drop the whole “student-athlete” pretense.

PAT CHAMBERS’ TAKE

Expectedly — and understandably — Chambers did his best to bite his tongue when asked if such scheduling is fair to his players.

“You’re trying to get me in trouble, right?” Chambers initially said with a laugh.

“It’s a Tuesday night game and we have 8 a.m. classes (Wednesday),” he said on a more serious note. “So we’ll get back at 3, and we’re gonna make them go to class. Because that’s what we do and that’s what we’re all about. That’s our foundation and that’s the structure we have here, so they know what they have to do. http://www.scout.com/college/penn-state/story/1748526-yetur-matos-enjoys...

“It’s unfortunate,” he added. “Sometime TV dictates a lot. You wish you could play at 7 or at least 8 (Eastern) — (getting back at) 2 a.m., maybe that’s a little bit better. But a 9 o’clock start Eastern time is tough to swallow when they have class so early on a Wednesday.”

Chambers went on to point out that his players don’t begin classes until 10:30 a.m. on Tuesdays and Thursdays. But even he realized that was beside the point.

“It’s a work in progress,” he said. “I know the NCAA is all over (things) about time demands and the Big Ten is all over (things) about time demands. They’re very conscious of it. So we’ll see if they make some changes as we go along here.”

CENTRAL CASTING

If changes are to be made, a good place to start will be by instituting a rule whereby the eight Big Ten teams from the Eastern time zone are not allowed to be scheduled for road games that tip at 8 p.m. Central (which is 9 p.m. Eastern).

Limit such games to the six teams in the Central time zone (Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern and Wisconsin). They are all on the same clock, so an 8 p.m. tip for one is an 8 p.m. tip for the other.

A caveat would allow the Eastern teams to hit the road for the late Central tips during their semester or spring breaks.

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