KokobewareHI:rolling rolling rolling huh!
KokobewareHI:what's the story with Sarge?
jwtanger:So what are the odds that MRob is going to hold onto the ball Saturday?
mxbscout:Good question, Koko. I'll have to do some digging to see
mxbscout:I'd say the odds are pretty good, jwt. He knows he has to clean it up
MeadowLion:You think King sees more action on offense this week with the defense presumably playing less nickel
KokobewareHI:can't see Sarge seeing any time at WR with the others stepping up
mxbscout:I don't see King's role changing much. And I think the emergence of Norwood may be making things difficult for Sargeant
BobLichtenfels:Bob is glad Norwood is doing well
KokobewareHI:Yeah...Norwood is definitely a better WR than Sarge...better hands and a better route runner
MeadowLion:how can they not play King more on offense with what he has done on the offensive side thus far?
jwtanger:Where will Connor play? Middle or Outside?
KokobewareHI:Also...Sarge won't be a KR with JK and DW back there
KokobewareHI:Since we burned his RS...why not have him work as a PR and a 3rd team RB?
mxbscout:It seems like they are trying to get Sarge involved in the punt return game. Not sure when we will seem him do that in a game, though
KokobewareHI:My only concern with Sarge is that the Staff messes with him and moves him to corner...ARGH!
BobLichtenfels:i was just going to hit that point Koko, its almost like they panicked for playmakers early and maybe should have waited a game or two to see what transpired
nittlion:agree with that
KokobewareHI:We may want to RS him next year to build some depth at RB...asssuming the staff moves him there.
nittlion:that is what practice is for
mxbscout:Connor is still at outside linebacker as far as we know
YorkPAinPSU:i hate wasting kids RS;s but I'm glad the staff handled the WR the way they did
BobLichtenfels:Its a double-edged sword, if you save him he see's no action in the OOC games which would help him later, but his redshirt is blown for what a few plays
KokobewareHI:Yeah...can't blame the Staff on this one...they had no idea who would step up at the WR spot.
nittlion:heck, i think king should be playing more
rriva:Bob, I think every recruit in the nation has either diconnected their phone, or changed their number....
YorkPAinPSU:so do i
KokobewareHI:riva the DIVA!
nittlion:he needs to touch the ball more
BobLichtenfels:welcome to recruiting
YorkPAinPSU:every time he touches it he takes it 40+
mxbscout:I agree. For all the flack the staff take for not playing true frosh, it is hard to be too critical here
BobLichtenfels:No wonder i have seen demarco Murray in the Hotnews every other day it seems like
snakester:How is the turf taking hold?
scpsu21:I think the rain this past week helped considerably
mxbscout:Saw the turf Tuesday and walked on it. it seemed fine.
mxbscout:Since I didn't want to burn it up, I did not run any 40s
bplion:Mark, lol. You may not have finished by now anyways.
nittlion:or you could give them $$
mxbscout:I have a good first step
mxbscout:then I stop
78Lion:So does a polka dancer!
snakester:I think JoePa wanted to challenge you in a 40 race, only if you wore pants!
nittlion:like my dad used to say, "I'm short, but I'm slow"
mxbscout:he'd beat me
mxbscout:How about some predictions on this game?
BobLichtenfels:I know i'll be player hated on but I'm goin with minnesota
PSUBETA:PSU 42-20 (MRob --- no TO's)
BobLichtenfels:Maroney could be the best back in the country (complete back)
mjmirv:I predict 3 mrob fumbles
rriva:maroney is the best back in the country
nittlion:ok if we recover them!
PSUBETA:power and speed
nittlion:we have fumbled 13 times in 4 games and lost 7
BobLichtenfels:I like a little Bush everynow and again, reggie is a bad man
nittlion:we are last in the conference in to's by 5 i think
PSUBETA:I will enjot seeing the USC-ND game.
mxbscout:tied for last in TO margin at minus-five
BobLichtenfels:I cant wait for that one beta
BobLichtenfels:USC-AZ St could be a good one this week
nittlion:the one promising thing about NW was a PSU drive at crunchtime to win
nittlion:we used to be able to do that at will in the old days
PSUBETA:My head says the TO's continue. My heart says otherwise, obviously.
nittlion:the last couple years, we couldn't even get one first down to start such a drive
PSUBETA:USC-ND could be a shootout. Same for ASU.
BobLichtenfels:I think USC waxes ND
PSUBETA:MRob will grow, hopefully.
nittlion:me too...too much speed
KokobewareHI:ASU is good. They have top 10 talent. I agree that USC pimp slaps ND.
BobLichtenfels:ND's strength is their OL, USC can fight that with a great DL
PSUBETA:I don't know. ND always plays the Trojans tough.
nittlion:SC really struggled in the first half with Oregon
cdbpsu89:good morning everyone
KokobewareHI:BTW...Herbie picked us to beat Minny...the bad news...he picked Illinois to upset MSU last week
PSUBETA:USC offense will not be stopped by the Domer D tho.
BobLichtenfels:If ray kirkley can run on ND reggie Bush will have a field day
nittlion:then they just flipped a switch
PSUBETA:I will be shocked if USC ever punts the ball.
KokobewareHI:I'd love an tOSU // USC matchup.
playdrums:doggonit - I'm s'posed to be working
mxbscout:no you're not. you're supposed to be here
cdbpsu89:Any thoughts on Michigan-Michigan St tomorrow?
BobLichtenfels:I'd rateher see texas/USC
KokobewareHI:our verbal Brackett is putting up good numbers so far...looks good running and throwing...what do you guys think?
playdrums:MSU is gonna kill UMich
BobLichtenfels:Mich State will win
nittlion:where is that game?
jwtanger:Unfortunately I think Meatchicken will beat MSU.
GoPSU05:I think UM will bounce back
cdbpsu89:These are the kind of games Michigan State loses, though
playdrums:I don't think UM has the D to stop Stanton right now
playdrums:cdb, I agree
PSUBETA:cdb --- exatly.
KokobewareHI:Biggie or Pac?
playdrums:lose when they don't expect it
cdbpsu89:It's in East Lansing
BobLichtenfels:If Mich State wins, they may be tough to beat the rest of the season
78Lion:all rests on Henne if he can hit open receivers and Hart doesn't get hurt again they will wear down MSU
PSUBETA:MSU will lose a big game. They only get bigger the longer they remain unbeaten.
YorkPAinPSU:will Hart play??
KokobewareHI:simila to the thrilla in manilla people call me biggie the _____ filla
rriva:sorry for the quick stop, i gotta jet, i'll try to get back later
KokobewareHI:Is this a scUM board all of a sudden?
YorkPAinPSU:McCoy injury on Lemmings generation next
cdbpsu89:What is Tressel doing with his extra week to prepare?
YorkPAinPSU:Lemming will move McCoy down
KokobewareHI:$$$paying a visit to recruits!
playdrums:I don't think it is surprising if McCoy gets moved down
playdrums:considering his foot was dangling there
YorkPAinPSU:just seeing lemmings face irritates me
cdbpsu89:Doesn't LeSean basically have the same injury Austin Scott had in the off season?
KokobewareHI:who te heck is this paging me at 546 in the mornin crack a dawnin now i'm yawnin wip the cold from my eye...
playdrums:I don't think Austin had a compound fracture
YorkPAinPSU:see who's this paging me and why
YorkPAinPSU:percy harvin is a awesome
BobLichtenfels:McCoy's was not compound
PSUBETA:Who is Austin Scott?
cdbpsu89:They corrected Shady's initial injury disclosure...it wasn't compound
PSUBETA:It was ugly tho.
playdrums:ah, I thought it was. My bad.
KokobewareHI:Its my _____ pops from the barber shop...
obLichtenfels:Percy has 17 TD's Dickerson 16
YorkPAinPSU:they're showing clips on tv
BobLichtenfels:I cant wait until the AA Bowl harvin, hazelton, and Dickerson at WR
YorkPAinPSU:Moreno on now
cdbpsu89:Bob, will any of those guys be early enrollees in January?
KokobewareHI:Fellas gotta run...and I'm out like acid washed jeans!
mxbscout:See you Koko
GoPSU05:what about Chris Bell, will he be at the AA game
PSUBETA:How is Moreno doing? Grades up?
cdbpsu89:they're coming back Koko
YorkPAinPSU:beta, they didn't say much just asked him dumb questions
PSUBETA:Acid wash jeans? eeeeeeeew
BobLichtenfels:Can you picture my prophecy?
BobLichtenfels:stress in tha city
PSUBETA:I wonder if Joe has indicated an interest if he gets the grades up? Bob?
BobLichtenfels:tha cops is hot for me
BobLichtenfels:tha projects is full of bullets
cdbpsu89:The big question is...will Poz pull a Flying Waterboy on Maroney tomorrow?
BobLichtenfels:tha bodies is droppin'
PSUSem:Has this turned into a rap battle? If so, that's awesome
BobLichtenfels:there ain't no stoppin me
playdrums:sounds like the new Beaver Stadium
BobLichtenfels:sorry had to combat Koko's biggie wake
playdrums:is this an audition?
bplion:Bob, has Dicersons td been at RB or WR?
BobLichtenfels:Bell i have not heard for sure if he has made it or not, they are still doing the announcements
PSUBETA:IS Moreno a possibility if his grades are better, or will he be going elsewhere?
BobLichtenfels:i think he's headed elsewhere, i haven't really heard of any grade issues
bplion:Have read a report that Bell has had a poor senior year so far. Can anyone confirm.
BobLichtenfels:Maybe head coach issues, baggage
cdbpsu89:he's getting doubled on every play
PSUBETA:Maybe Bell's head coach isn't showing him the love!
BobLichtenfels:I got nothin' ta lose
bplion:Lots of drops from what I read.
BobLichtenfels:it's just me against tha world
BobLichtenfels:Koko got scared
BobLichtenfels:took his Poi and ran
cdbpsu89:Is that you, Marshall Mathers?
cdbpsu89:LeSean's got nothin' on the Real Slim Shady Lichtenfels
mxbscout:I'm heaing Sargeant will be worked into the offense a bit more this week
nittlion:presumably at someone's expense?
bplion:id imagine seargant on WR screens
PSUBETA:Maybe at TB, since we only have one of those.
mxbscout:No, it will be at wideout. I expect to see a lot of three- and four-wide
LexLion:Sargeant NEEDS tobe in there, otherwise, 2005 has been a wasted season, ala Morelli in 2004.
nittlion:hopefully the staff will work some underneath stuff with all the D focus on the long balls
daCronk:with our o line we need 4 wr's to be able to run the ball up the middle
PSUBETA:Underneath for a little ball control and variety? Unheard of!
nittlion:and we ran 21 times for 22 yards
nittlion:but the punting was outstanding!!
PSUBETA:We were awesome last year.
daCronk:also look for a lot of swing/circle passes to the RB's
nittlion:that's what we need to do
bplion:thats what I'm think also Cronk.
daCronk:i believe hahn and hunt had success with that last year against minny
nittlion:i remember hahn had a big one
PSUBETA:...for 22 yards.
BobLichtenfels:yes that is it
BobLichtenfels:I have the chat wrap scoop of the day
nittlion:all is well?
BobLichtenfels:Just received word that Johnnie troutman has suffered a torn ACL
LexLion:Rolle is changing his mind (lol)
BobLichtenfels:Yes it sucks but there's a silver lining
PSUBETA:We have decided to take all 4 and 5 star injured players?
daCronk:he can come visit now?
BobLichtenfels:He has talked to LJ and staff about this type of thing before it happened and they said they would honor his ship
PSUBETA:And he is coming?
cdbpsu89:Is there any reason we don't run that center screen to the wideout anymore ala Engram or McDuffie?
Psu96:who got hurt?
nittlion:he did it kicking wannstedt in the nuts?
LexLion:some will back off of him now
BobLichtenfels:He loves PSU and honestly i would be surprised if he doesn't end up in happy valley
mxbscout:Last season, Hunt had seven catches for 110 yards vs. Minn. Rubin six for 60.
Psu96:who are we talking about?
GoPSU05:troutman got hurt
PSUBETA:We will have a freshman class of the infirm.
Psu96:Johnnie Troutman. What did he do?
daCronk:this could be a very good class
nittlion:if we win
daCronk:i really think we get the maryland trio
PSUBETA:If they sign and heal.
LexLion:Bob, what the latest with Jeremiah Hunter?
BobLichtenfels:Steve Ryan the nebraska pub spoke to him last night, so once he gets the story i'll get it
BobLichtenfels:Torn ACL 96
cdbpsu89:Any new news on ALE?
BobLichtenfels:Hunter's phone numbers have changed
BobLichtenfels:as have Walton's
Psu96:that's a 2-year recovery period to get back to 100%. Troutman would likely redshirt under that scenario but I would definitely still take him.
LexLion:lol ... they are getting sick of the gurus calling
BobLichtenfels:hell yeah, LJ tutoring him the kid could be a stud
BobLichtenfels:Honestly lex coaches are worse then we are
PSUBETA:Lex - you beat me to it.
BobLichtenfels:these guys call these kids from 6;00am to midnight
cdbpsu89:the kids are still up watching Sportscenter
BobLichtenfels:I'm not gonna say troutman will be a nittany Lion, but i think there's a very good possibility
LexLion:Bob, your thoughts on how PSU stands with the Maryland law firm of Bowman, Logan-El, Maybin, Taylor and Walton
bplion:He better pull the trigger wuick though. I feel after OSU game that position could fill up.
Psu96:bp, don't get your hopes up for a bunch of commits right after that game. Most kids PSU is recruiting are taking most if not all of their official visits before deciding
GoPSU05:Taylor is going to be at the maryland game this weekend
cdbpsu89:who do they have?
BobLichtenfels:Bowman may be the best possibility
BobLichtenfels:Tenn is loaded with youn backer
cdbpsu89:Any guests scheduled for Happy Valley this weekend?
GoPSU05:i think virginia, but im not positive
BobLichtenfels:he seems small to fit in at OSU
Psu96:cdb, Chris Bell is making an official visit to PSU this weekend
BobLichtenfels:2 juniors that i know of of hand will be there
mxbscout:Bell is the only "name" guy lined up so far, senior-wise
Psu96:Pat Bostick and...
BobLichtenfels:Pat bostick an
BobLichtenfels:from central Dauphin
BobLichtenfels:he transferred from susquehanna township
mxbscout:From what I gather, Bell is arriving sometime in the next couple of hours
YorkPAinPSU:sorry just got back, Bostick is coming to Minny game
cdbpsu89:doesn't Bell have a game at Granby this weekend?
BobLichtenfels:maybe the airport can get us a phone number
GoPSU05:it would be nice if Robinson has a good day
mxbscout:I've also been told there will be about 50 folks (the total covers recruits and family members) on hand for the Ohio State game
bplion:Is Walker Lee Ashley visiting this weekend. Or is he enrolled at Minnesota.
mxbscout:That will include seniors and underclassmen
Psu96:Mike McQueary will have something special up his sleeve for next weekend I think.
cdbpsu89:I believe Ashley is enrolling at Minnesota in January
daCronk:96-that is what he told us
YorkPAinPSU:96, i think a win may be the biggest thing he could have up his sleeve
mxbscout:It would be better if the team had something special up its sleave vs. Ohio State
mxbscout:these next three weeks are big from a recruiting standpoint
cdbpsu89:first things first...gotta kight it up tomorrow
YorkPAinPSU:i was talking about tOSU
playdrums:hate to bring it down but....
Psu96:They should all hide brass knuckles in their pants and clock the Buckeye in front of them when the refs aren't looking. Just like WWE. :-)
playdrums:PSU doesn't win the big ones anymore
LexLion:Don't understand the Ashley thing. Since he was short on the SAT, or lacked the grades, would he have to go to prep school before enrolling at Minny?
playdrums:so, let's not get our hopes up
Psu96:Until they show me otherwise, I expect PSU to be 4-3 going into the Illinois game.
Psu96:that doesn't mean I think they have no shot to win any of the three games, just that they haven't come up big in a big game in so long it's hard to expect a win.
zeta1344:hey laydrums, go play with yourself....i'll get my hopes up all i want, haha.... we should beat Minnesota
BobLichtenfels:he can still take the test, and enroll in courses
playdrums:I can't get myself worked up zeta
playdrums:it's too smoky in my office from the fires
playdrums:no playin' with myself
BobLichtenfels:plenty of ways to skirt around eligibility nowadays
cdbpsu89:Lex---never got clarification on Ashley at SC, but got the sense it was an internal screw-up at SC. I believe he's eligible for admission
zeta1344:Im fed up just like everyone else... but we have too much senior leadership to not think we should win this weekend
cgiam311:Ashley's at Minny now, right?
cdbpsu89:It's time for things to change
LexLion:I knew SC screwed up, but thought he was short on test or was missing one core class.
cdbpsu89:cg--enrolled, but not practicing
Psu96:Minnesota has a better offensive line and RB than PSU. PSU has a penchant for turning the ball over. Those two things combine to make me hopeful, but realistic about what could happen tomorrow.
cgiam311:96 is right, if this game goes like our first 4, we very likely lose
cgiam311:we have to correct the mistakes
cdbpsu89:I think our D comes up huge tomorrow, and the O limits the mistakes
playdrums:yeah, a different team has to show up because we're playing different talent
playdrums:it isn't just about eliminating mistakes
LexLion:Take care of the ball ... if PSU does that, it will be in good shape to win. Anything more than 2 TOs, then its a loss
cgiam311:a mistake -free game means we kill them
cdbpsu89:I agree CG
playdrums:kill 'em? I don't see that playing a team with a dominating o-line
playdrums:and they have one
LexLion:PSU will be able to move the ball against the Gophers, especially through the air ... as long as Robinson doesn't overthrow many WIDE OPEN targets ala Northwestern
cdbpsu89:I think we can force Cupito into some mistakes
playdrums:"as long as...." But that's what Robinson does.
cgiam311:I know, what are the odds of mistake-free right now
LexLion:Stack the line and put the game in the hands of Cupito. He is mistake prone
Psu96:Penn State also has to make the most of the offensive possessions they get. When you face a team like Minnesota than can grind it out on the ground, you are going to get less opportunities with the football than a normal game. Can't stall out in the red zone.
cgiam311:hence, no mistakes 96
playdrums:yeah, 80% of the time we're 3 and out.
cdbpsu89:I think Jimmy Shaw plays a huge role in tomorrow's game
Psu96:Lex, you could say the same about MRob. I expoect Minny to bring lots of pressure.
playdrums:even against our patsies
cgiam311:Shaw is big, we need the DL rotation
playdrums:the other 20% we score in 2 plays. That formula isn't going to continue to work.
cgiam311:drums is right, we need long sustained drives tomorrow
cdbpsu89:we need lots of fresh bodies tomorrow
LexLion:Of course I can. Robinson is high risk
cgiam311:we need to run the ball successfully tomorrow
cdbpsu89:we need to set up the run with the pass
psuthebest:i think we get big ko returns with williams and king back there and the worthless wedge gone
cgiam311:I think what we're saying is we need balance on O
playdrums:agree, I think if Hunt has a big day, we have a chance because that means our o-line is doing well and we're chewing up time.
Psu96:I think Tony Hunt will see 20 carries for the first time tomorrow unless PSU gets behind big early in the game.
cdbpsu89:loosen them up upfront...get Mrob into a rythym
cgiam311:MRob has no rhythm
cdbpsu89: looked pretty good on the last drive last week
playdrums: I'd love to see Tony Hunt have a 280 yard game. I believe he is really a big time back shrowded by mediocrity.
cgiam311: for passing, I mean
BobLichtenfels: Alright folks I'm out , gotta get some work done..peace
cgiam311: seeya Bob
playdrums: later bob
LexLion: work ... what's that?
cdbpsu89: Later Slim Shady
LexLion: later Bob
cgiam311: did Bob have any good recruiting tidbits?
BobLichtenfels: How about Not so slim shady
BobLichtenfels: i'm out
mxbscout: I have to roll, too. We will post a chat wrap later this afternoon. Thank you everyone.