PlaybookMark:McDonald is on the Scout team (green 2nd team jersey) he is likely not to see action for the rest of the year barring any injuries
snakester:Any word on teams attitude or practice this week?
PlaybookMark:Butler, Norwood, Kilmer and Golden has seen the bulk of first team reps
PlaybookMark:sorry King not Golden
PlaybookMark:Golden has seen some first team mostly second
PSUSem:so who starts? butler/kilmer?
PlaybookMark:Snake: all-around the team is looking at the final three games as a playoff - lose one and the seasons done
nittlion:i dont think this team is capable of a letdown
PlaybookMark:The leadership has spread throughout the squad - the captains attitude is described as infectious
nittlion:2 years of losing made these guys hungry
MeadowLion:will we see king used more in the way that dwill was used or are they still phasing him in?
snakester:WILL McCoy announce soon?
KokobewareHI:gotta give props to Golden. preseason reports of him were not good. he has really lifted his level of play!
mrfolks:How is Bob L. doing?
YesPSUwins:mrfolks, is Williams break in three spots a shattered fracture?
MeadowLion:Golden is a pretty darn good blocking WR
mxbscout:Bob is still out of commission. We will update his status as soon as we can
mrfolks:where did you hear it was 3 spots?
YesPSUwins:Joes press conf
PlaybookMark:Meadow, King has seen some backfield reps, but he is unlikely to see the amount of carries Williams had
mrfolks:interesting- i wouldnt describe it as shattered
PlaybookMark:Yes, Joe said Williams break was in three spots we are trying to confirm that, but Joe probably knows more than anyone
YesPSUwins:Give me a quick how is it broken in three spots idea if you can. I know you are an expert.
PlaybookMark:didn;t sound like a shatter though
PlaybookMark:Yes - not sure what you are asking
MeadowLion:Are Kinlaw and King still the KRs this week? Any thought to put Kinlaw at PR too?
mrfolks:well, if there is a butterfly fragment, it can look like 3 breaks- ill try to find an example xray and link it
PlaybookMark:The offense has expanded the intermediate passing game more this week with increased use of passing to TE and RB out of the backfield
YesPSUwins:Mark like is it broken like breaking pretzel in three places.. the stick pretzel?
mxbscout:I think there are concerns about Kinlaws hands as a punt-return man
YesPSUwins:OK thanks mrfolks
nittlion:how about king?
nittlion:as a PR?
mxbscout:what other college football chat offers free medical advice?
PlaybookMark:Lowry is likely to stay on PR through the rest of the season
YesPSUwins:DWilliams has raised Kinlaws confidence level as well as others. WIlliams effect on team member is phenomenal.
nittlion:can anyone help me with this rash?
KokobewareHI:mark...1 and 2 star under the radar recruits? who will will get?
PSUSem:how did he raise kinlaws confidence level?
PlaybookMark:Yes - you are right Williams is an confidence injection as one observer calls him
YesPSUwins:as a sample
YesPSUwins:He can do it I can
PSUSem:good to hear... sounds like mr. bell is fairly confident too
mrfolks:nitt- youre on your own
PlaybookMark:Meadow - yes King and Kinlaw were on kick returns all week with Scott and Golden as the upbacks
KokobewareHI:how much time will Shipley see this week?
PlaybookMark:Koko, that is a question for Bob or Rob
nittlion:im still waiting to see king run back a KO. i think hell be great at it.
YesPSUwins:Shipleys natural position is DT ...
PlaybookMark:Koko - they have had Shipley seeing more first team reps with the focus on getting him in the rotation more for Purdue
PlaybookMark:they want to keep the front four fresh and rested as they head into Wisconsin/MSU as much as possible
nittlion:I am glad they moved Shaw to DE. That is where he played at Rice as a freshman.
KokobewareHI:How has ERob looked in practice?
cwf110:i just love shipleys attitude on the o-line
MeadowLion:wow, Golden returning kicks...they might as well put smolko back there returning kicks if Golden is forced into KR duty
PlaybookMark:Shaw is a natural at DE
nittlion:golden has been upback on the KO for most of the year
KokobewareHI:nitt...agreed on Shaw...once he drops the addded weight, hes gonna surprise many on this board.
nittlion:nothing has changed
PlaybookMark:Koko - ERob has focused on his bullrushing - has good footword and power, has been improving on lower stance and his leverage
YesPSUwins:isnt ERob RS ing.?
PlaybookMark:ERob is expected to redshirt, but he continues to workout and practice
cwf110:I trust LJ Sr. to produce a solid d-line...i am more worried about the o-line for next year. But I am making sure to enjoy this ride
KokobewareHI:Is Erob a space stuffer or is he more of a motor guy?
YesPSUwins:cwt110 , the OL may be better next year.
PlaybookMark:Koko - good question - I think Shipley is more motor ERob is more of a filler
YesPSUwins:Brown and John Shaw at tackle next year will be the best in the Big Ten.
nittlion:Isnt that what we say every fall...that the OL will be better next year?
KokobewareHI:Granted Ship was playing against Illinois, but his surge is really impressive.
PlaybookMark:Hahn saw more reps this week, so we could see him get some playing time against Purdue
KokobewareHI:Shaw will manhandle every DE he faces next year, the question with him will be technique.
PlaybookMark:The staff wants to gett Purdue off balance with a variety of passes, but they worked the run game a lot this week also
PlaybookMark:practice was described as intense and aggressive this week
KokobewareHI:There seems to be some discension among the Purdue players.
PlaybookMark:Koko - have heard that - not sure what to make of it
daCronk:pissed off team more angerous than an apathetic team
PlaybookMark:The toughest aspect for the D this week has been trying to prep for both Kisch and Painter
YesPSUwins:Can you imagine someone trying to cause disentiion in front of POZ? That is why we are good. Leadership...
PlaybookMark:two different style QBs
MeadowLion:yeah, but the pissed off team becomes apathetic if they dont start off well
daCronk:purdue seems to have a lot of players dinged up
PlaybookMark:Mixed reports on Dorian Bryants status
daCronk:any word on cronin yet?
PennStater:we should slice through them like a warm knife through butter that is why I think it will be closer than we think. It sounds to easy.
daCronk:mark-he is a great receiver...without him, they have no chance
nittlion:purdues D is only allowing 3.1 yards per carry but 350 yards passing per game and 20 TDs passing
daCronk:what is up with ray edwards being benched?
ridleyjim:So Jim Shaw will battle John Shaw in spring practice?
PennStater:Doc hows Mich
KokobewareHI:Anyone else think we can rattle Purdues QB...homecoming crowd noise and a couple of quick hits...BTW, Wiskys crowd was uncharacteristically quiet last week; until the INTS.
PlaybookMark:Cronk - Cronin is not expected back - the staff made an example of him to make a statement - and it seems to have worked well
PennStater:we have scaped and are getting settled
mrfolks:it s what it is- to quote Todd Bertuzzi
YesPSUwins:Brother against brother , older brother wins so younger brother calls MOM...Ha
PennStater:are you going this weekend
KokobewareHI:How bout VT last night...as much as it pains me to say this; they are a well oiled machine (great team speed, solid D, great STs play, and great coaching)
PlaybookMark:Kicking team has drilled a lot this week on snaps, sets and kicks
mrfolks:going? to psu? no
PSUSmitty:Koko - VT has really not played anyone yet
ridleyjim:IS Odrick the only big recruit attending this weekend? Any unofficials?
PSUSmitty:their schedule has been terrible
PlaybookMark:VT has Miami coming up
PennStater:hey its only 400 miles I have made the drive lots
mrfolks:have to work sunday a,
YesPSUwins:Doctors are always working
PSUSmitty:Penn State 34-21
PennStater:hey Mark Hows Bob doing?
mrfolks:meadow- whats up, hows things
PlaybookMark:Stater - we will have an update on Bob soon
PennStater:okay care to elaborate a little
mxbscout:Yeah, he is still out of commission, though
PlaybookMark:I actually don;t know - we have to find out how he is doing
PSUSmitty:Back to the Tech game, I thought BC looked very slow
mxbscout:we told him to take his time and make sure he is well before coming back
PennStater:Hope he gets well soon!
PSUSem:VT has had a very favorable schedule this year... i dont see them losing at home either
PlaybookMark:Riva has a call into McCoy to help clarify all the swirling rumors about his annoucnement
PennStater:MXB any news on the bowl package?
mxbscout:and when he gives us the go-ahead to say what is wrong, we will
KokobewareHI:Smitty...you have to give Tech some credit.
PSUSmitty:Koko - I agree that they look very good
mxbscout:Stater, were trying to find the right travel agency as we speak
nittlion:i missed a few minutes of the VT game last night...did anyone catch what marcus vicks favorite color is and if its the same as his brothers?
PennStater:should be fun
PSUSmitty:but they have not played at OSU or at ND like Texas and USC have
PSUSmitty:they have ZERO signature wins
PennStater:later guys go State beat Purdue!
KokobewareHI:just like you...ZERO signature moves...unlike my ghostbuster
YesPSUwins:VT beating BC is like us beating Minny.
KokobewareHI:good analogy YesPSU
PSUSmitty:cmon Koko - I have my patented Smitty elbow drop
MeadowLion:tell me again why mike vick goes to EVERY VT game....and on a Thursday when he should be at falcons practice
YesPSUwins:I think you see King Sat doing a lot of the plays DWilliams did before he got hurt.
mrfolks:thats why his qb rating is so great, meadow!
PSUSmitty:that is peculiar Meadow
PSUSem:the first game was pre NFL season, this week the falcons were off
PlaybookMark:Yes, Norwood has continued to practice all week this week and is fine - he could have played vs. ILL, but they did not need him - so they rested him
YesPSUwins:AT TB in the eye.
PSUSem:its a shame the BC-VT game interuppted the Marcus and Michael Vick reality show on ESPN
YesPSUwins:It was sickening how they prop up rapists
KokobewareHI:ESPN is a bit out of control with their shameless promotion of certain players.
YesPSUwins:He should be in jail
nittlion:i thought the beginning of telecast comparison piece of Kiwi and Mracus Vick was an insult to Kiwi
sweetgingerbrown:who is Kiwi?
PlaybookMark:The staff was on Phillips this week, but I cant see him losing his spot at this stage
PSUSmitty:Mark - why were they on Phillips?
PSUSem:what about when they compared the leadership in their backgrounds... kiwis grandfather was a prime minister... michael is a qb for the falcons
Ramblewood:Curious, what did you guys think of Toals play last night?
nittlion:thats what i meant sem
sweetgingerbrown:smitty because he shys away from contact is my guess
YesPSUwins:Mark, Phillips has to tackle better. Come up faster on the run and hit someone.
PSUSem:toal looked really small last night
nittlion:toal took a lot of bad angles last night IMO
mrfolks:Whos Brian Toal?
iejayden3:toal seemed like he could shed blockers either
KokobewareHI:Toal is a VERY good player; lets settle down a bit.
shpsu:Toal looked like he had a belly on him????
YesPSUwins:mrfolks , we wanted Toals
PSUSmitty:Toal looked a JV player to me last night
Ramblewood:I wonder how much was his Oline not helping him, or whether Vandy is just a great LB coach.
PlaybookMark:Smitty - on Phillips for his tackling - he is not wrapping up and making clean contact
KokobewareHI:Smitty...you look like a JV player when it comes to ladies!
mrfolks:i know- im just joking.. i wnated him at PSU for sure
PlaybookMark:Toal is a good player, but hed likely be lost in the current LB DC
PSUSmitty:Koko - I have so much game, you need to move 5000 miles away because you were jealous
cwf110:Toal was aggressive all night long, had some big plays on d and ST
KokobewareHI:WRONG...the gene pool in Hawaii comes correct!
YesPSUwins:I am going to the wifes alma mater tomorrow...Tenn. South Carolina game...7PM start.
MeadowLion:Toal will probably have a better college career than Cushing will at USC
mrfolks:is cushing hurt?
Ramblewood:Meadow, did you see Cushing is having surgery in the off-season?
KokobewareHI:Both Toal and Cushing are very good players...lets leave it at that.
YesPSUwins:MRob tomorrow..........three TD passes and runs for three.
PSUSmitty:Toal did have a great hit last night on special teams
MeadowLion:Cushing got too big for his body frame.....he needs to lose some size
PlaybookMark:Toal has good technique
PSUSmitty:Mark/Brennan - any word on DWills recovery?
KokobewareHI:Ive noticed that PSU likes slightly leaner / speedier LBs than many college programs.
mxbscout:Smitty, Im not sure what there is to report at this point
KokobewareHI:Smitty...hes done until Spring Ball.
PlaybookMark:Smitty - surgery reportedly went fine - he will just have to take it easy until it heals and then tackle PT
PSUSmitty:i know its early, just interested to know if the surgery went well, how his attitude is, whether he can train at all
YesPSUwins:I cant wait to see a game start with LEE< POZ>CONNOR at LBer................Whoa nellie...
PlaybookMark:Koko - that is Vandy - he likes powerful/mobile backers
nittlion:shaw is no slouch...hes fast and a good blitzer
KokobewareHI:Smitty...bad news on the surgey...Dwill had to have his arm amputated
mxbscout:He supposedly his still very good at Madden for PS2, even with one hand
PlaybookMark:Vandys impact is often overlooked
Psu96:Shaw gets overlooked because Poz and Connor are All-American caliber LBs. Shaw is very good in his own right.
YesPSUwins:Vandy next head coach?
KokobewareHI:I actually like smaller / more mobile LBs.
PSUSmitty:Koko - if you joke one more time like that I might fly to Hawaii and amputate something you have - if i can find it of course
PlaybookMark:Shaw would likely be among the best backers on a lot of Big Ten squads
nittlion:thats what i heard koko
Psu96:I would expect him to get head coaching looks very soon Yes.
KokobewareHI:Smitty...it takes one to know one
nittlion:not that there is anything wrong with that
Ramblewood:Maybe Maryland would be interested? Kidding.
YesPSUwins:Shaw caused two fumbles this yr that were returned for TDs.
PlaybookMark:Koko - PSUs backers were criticizes for their small size heading into OSU - they more than held their own against the big Buck backers
MeadowLion:Marks, i heard that ohrnberger is now the 2nd team RG...although if an injury occured, EZ might get the call....can u confirm?
PSUSmitty:I read somewhere that both Carpenter and Hawk might be Top 15 picks
KokobewareHI:Mark...you know whats crazy...both Shaw and Poz are in the 230 range and their considered small!
YesPSUwins:EZ has football smarts...can play either guard.
PlaybookMark:Meadow - Ricjh O has seen second team reps at guard - are you asking if EZ would shift over to guard?
PSUSmitty:I know those guys are good, but i would honestly not take them over Poz and Connor
Psu96:It would be nice to see Ohrnberger get himself out of the doghouse for good. He has a ton of ability.
nittlion:John Shaw question. If everyone is so high on him, why didnt they put him in when Wilson went down?
Psu96:They want Shaw to redshirt and Richardson is a reasonable replacement
YesPSUwins:Save for next yr.
PlaybookMark:Shaw needed to redshirt
nittlion:we didnt save lee or fentress for next year
Psu96:Taking this year off allowed Shaw to save a year of eligibility. Hell be a two-year starter at RT beginning next season.
MeadowLion:Mark, yeah I was just curious if you had heard that EZ would move to guard if there was an injury or do you think they would go with Ohrenberger?
KokobewareHI:Shaw still needs plenty of technique work.
PSUSmitty:I like him redshirting
YesPSUwins:My next years OL ........Weber. center. Harrison and Ohrnberger guards..Brown and J Shaw tackles.
PlaybookMark:EZ could play guard - I doubt they would shift him from center though since he has had a big impact on the line at that position
Psu96:Lee and Fentress were ready to play. Like Koko said, Shaw is using this year to work on technique and channel that tremendous strength.
YesPSUwins:Or Harrison center and cadogan guard
Pezlion:fentress looked great on saturday
Psu96:Tim Shaw did the same when he moved over to LB
nittlion:I am more just being skeptical of the Next years OL is going to be better stuff
PlaybookMark:Harrison will likely not play center - he has worked there, but he is a guard
KokobewareHI:Next years center position could be the key?
YesPSUwins:Fentress is flat out good.
YesPSUwins:Weber is good koko
Pezlion:yes, center will be key next year...always is
Psu96:I think next years OL will take a step back initially, but will eventually be better than the current group. By eventually, I mean 2007 in all likelihood.
KokobewareHI:Outside of Weber, who is realistically in the mix for center? Dan Wenger!
Pezlion:i have no idea why psu cant bring in someone for the sole purpose of being a center, and kept them there
nittlion:that is reasonable 96
Ramblewood:Are we thinking that AQ will stay on D?
nittlion:AQ will be center
YesPSUwins:96 with the spread offense I think you are wrong about 07
Pezlion:i think AQ belongs on d...
PSUSmitty:My biggest concerns for next years team are, in this order, 1) OL 2) secondary 3)Morellis ability to step up EARLY in TOUGH games
Pezlion:should have been on D all along
KokobewareHI:AQ on D...I love him there.
Psu96:Wenger doesnt seem as interested in PSU as he was previously. I expect AQ to move back to center in the offseason
iejayden3:cuold Doug Klopacz play center?
nittlion:not next year
Pezlion:AQ is a beast, he was unblockable on every single play in big 33
PSUSmitty:therefore, I love hearing about some of our backups that can fill in on the OL next year
Psu96:Elijah Robinson will be just fine at DT. Shipley is needed more on offense
PlaybookMark:AQ will likely shift back to center
YesPSUwins:AQ will stay at DE
KokobewareHI:Smittys pop was a mean center in the 50s!
Ramblewood:Maybe he can go both ways? again, kidding.
Pezlion:i think its a mistake moving AQ back to OL
YesPSUwins:Weber is good Mark, Im telling you now he will be the starting center next year.
KokobewareHI:Both ways...interesting...thoughts Smitty, since you go both ways!
nittlion:unless the staff seriously changes its intentions, AQ back to center
YesPSUwins:Who was our last good walk on center? Walk on WR?
Psu96:Iorio was a walk-on center
PSUSmitty:well, after that fine introduction, Id have to say that it is best to go ONE WAY - therefore, I want
PSUSmitty:AQ on D
PlaybookMark:at DT you have ERob, Alford, possible EJohnson - PSU needs a solid center
Pezlion:why not harrison at center?
Ramblewood:Recruiting question. How many people think McCoy has already given Joe his word?
Psu96:Because Harrison is a great guard prospect
PSUSmitty:Mark/Brennan - is there any reason, short of bad Karma, why we just cant recruit good centers?
PlaybookMark:Pez - observers feel Harrison could play center, but is really suited for guard
Pezlion:orhnburger and cadogan at guard
PSUSmitty:we have relied on walk-ons WAY too much
nittlion:i dont think center has been any more of a problem than the rest of the OL
Psu96:Cadogan is back at tackle where he belongs
PSUSmitty:I still cant Francis Spano thoughts out of my head
nittlion:its an OL problem
PlaybookMark:yeah not a center issue - OL issue
Pezlion:i dont think cadogan has the lateral movement for T
Psu96:You dont put a 65 kid at guard IMO. Hes perfect for the LT spot behind Levi Brown
Psu96:Cadogan was a district champion swimmer and performed very well in space at the Big 33. Hell be a good tackle IMO
KokobewareHI:OL recruiting? We are looking at Walton, Logan-El, and Eilsades (sp?)...right? If we don;t land any, which DL recruits could shift to the other side of the ball?
YesPSUwins:The big kid from Long Island may be a starter next year.
PSUSmitty:Gotcha Mark - I know there is an OL issue overall, but walk-ons have pervaded at center
YesPSUwins:Forgot his name
nittlion:i would have LJ, Sr. recruit all the OLs and DLs
Pezlion:i dont really have issues with a 65 guard
nittlion:i have issues with a #65 guard
ridleyjim:Whats Eric Landolt doing? I remember him last year.
ridleyjim:right, my bad
Psu96:Dennis Landolt. Ive heard the coaches really like him.
Pezlion:can he play center?
KokobewareHI:I love the fact that that kid was a wrestler in HS.
ridleyjim:He had a big frame
PSUSmitty:no Pez, our current Center is probably playing at Shippensburg right now
Pezlion:they need to just make one of these kids a center from the time they step on campus
ridleyjim:second in the state in the heavyweight division
Psu96:Trent Varva has been a center from day 1
Pezlion:yeah, unfortunately it doesnt seem like trent is much of a player
Psu96:Auletta is a tackle
PlaybookMark:Landolt was asked to wrestle at PSU - he replied thanks, but Im a football player now
Pezlion:i like that attitude mark
KokobewareHI:Knowledge Timmons...anyone think hell be one of the KR for next year? Over 40 yds hes as fast as anyone on the team, over
YesPSUwins:Joe likes him
Psu96:Its a little early to write a kid off in their redshirt freshman year. Varva has a long way to go, but it can be done.
KokobewareHI:60 yds no one can touch him.
Pezlion:i think dwill and kinlaw will be the return guys kokko
PSUSmitty:we have an abundance of guys that can return kicks
PSUSem:what about punts? scirotto?
Pezlion:96, my bad, i thought varva was a rsSO
KokobewareHI:Kinlaw has a great 20 yd burst, but slows down after 50 yds.
PSUSmitty:question - were our young guys so inconsistent on punts that we have to still play Lowry?
PSUSmitty:I just dont get it
YesPSUwins:We have talent. Really quite on the AIW front.
Psu96:Scirrotto fits Joes profile. Smart kid, probably wont muff punts. Id rather see Sargeant or DWill back there personally.
Pezlion:what makes you say that koko? the only time hes gotten that far downfield he was tripped up and stumbling
KokobewareHI:info from my source.
Pezlion:id really like to see sargeant on punts...hes got the shiftiness of ARE
Psu96:Smitty, if you watch Sargeant in warmups, he is the backup punt return guy and he drops the punts way too often
Psu96:Its amazing how often he muffs the punts honestly.
YesPSUwins:96 is right
KokobewareHI:In fact, both sarge and kinlaw probably have as fast a first step as any on the team.
Pezlion:96, why are they bothering have him back up then?
YesPSUwins:When he stops muffing them he plays
PSUSmitty:but we have more than just Sargeant available
Psu96:Because the coaches probably think once he gets the hang of it, hes going to be a terrific return man
KokobewareHI:however, both sarge and kinlaw dont have much after 50 yards.
Pezlion:in that FL/CA game Sargeant was at top speed in 2 steps
PSUSmitty:back on the McCoy comment, I am not sure if he told Joe he was coming, but I bet he gave him a strong inclination that he was
KokobewareHI:Guys like King and Dwill dropoff a little after 50 yds but still maintain a very good rate of speed.
PSUSmitty:they dont drop off like you used to Koko
PSUSmitty:you got gassed running to first base
Pezlion:all these national guys seem to forget that McCoy flat out said he wanted to stay in state and would see if PSU could win this year
KokobewareHI:Smitty...at least I didnt get thrown out from center field like you!
mxbscout:Hey folks, we are going to save the chat from here back for our wrap. everything else will be here only.