vjgkam::Here's my hope...Brady Quinn becomes so familiar with Ed J on Saturday that he has Eds family pictures in his wallet!
psunittany::Walls isnt rady for PSU Wrs
mxbscout::staffers will be joining throughout the hour
ahzroe::If the Twins make the playoffs...
NewYorkNittany::what sort of wrinkles do you think we see? D-Will gonna air one out?
vjgkam::no way Joe allows a Thursday night game
mxbscout::Joe may not have a choice on Thursday game. That is a Big Ten call
PSUisBACK::I heard it's all but a done deal
vjgkam::I would hope he has some influence
mxbscout::you would hope they have enough sense not to do that
indynittany::Anybody else here think Lee is a little light to be in the middle? I guess I'm just anxious to see Hayes out there.
NewYorkNittany::wait, thursday game?
PSUisBACK::MN moves to Thursday night
MrKruger::i don't like Poz in the middle
PSUisBACK::to accomodate baseball
psunittany::Hayes will star vs YSU
MrKruger::call it personal preference
psk114::The twinkies will fade.
feetforlove::Kroger is a sweet store
psunittany::Akron was to get 1st string ready - that's why no 2nd teamers on D
OldBridge::Lloyd Carr will not allow it. To much time for PSU to prepare
MrKruger::i like shaw in the middle
Alan84::I hope there is not Thursday night game - flights and hotels are already booked
11LinebackerPSU31::If Poz is our biggest problem, we should beat the Steelers
futurelion::Connor is the best ILB of the 4
mxbscout::Shaw is out of the middle. Don't expect him back there unless there is an injury
psk114::Alot still needs to happen for a Thurs nite game in minny. Non big ten related stuff for one.
vjgkam::myguess...next time this week, you'll be reading about the same accolades for Dan Connor as we saw today.
MrKruger::actually I think hayes is the best mlb canidate
Cafe210::Conner is a manchild
vjgkam::Connor just seemed like he was on a mission on Saturday....
futurelion::i highly doubt Hayes is better than Connor anywhere
spud358::I think the issue is lack of DE, not which LBer fits better where
mxbscout::Connor has a wild streak to him that you really saw Saturday
PSURaven::how bout jimmy shaw...does everyone expect him to play saturday?
spud358::Conner played lights out
psk114::Connor made some bad reads and took some bad angles too, we just noticed the big hits.
ahzroe::TEs could not block
vjgkam::if ND stacks the box like Akron did....where do we end up?
mxbscout::He plays reckless
NewYorkNittany::think we will see 1 established o-line or will we still see a lot of shuffling?
futurelion::anyone else very concerned about Poz and his health ?
spud358::psk, and the 13 tackles
vjgkam::Poz is fine
MrKruger::no, I think poz is ok
mxbscout::Think you see one line Saturday
11LinebackerPSU31::OMG Poz cant have 1 mediocre game?
psunittany::Shaw plays ... not worried abotu Poz - he's his worst critic
psk114::He played well no doubt, but he could have had 20 tackles.
nittanynick::why not get one of the LBs to play FB like Toal?
futurelion::11, he was limping
NewYorkNittany::next question, will that line include robert price?
spud358::people are over reacting to poz
MrKruger::i suspect our line is very close to becoming: levi, harrison, shipley, ohrnberger, shaw
OldBridge::I hope ND stacks the box. Morelli is probably going over the audible package at this time.
psunittany::kruger - agree - Harrison had a pretty block on Hunt's TD
indynittany::vjgkam, Morelli audibles and abuses their secondary with Derrick Williams
psk114::That sounds real good kruger.
PlaybookMark::Poz is fine - they dropped him on nearly 80% of the downs
vjgkam::I worry that Weis stacks the box the way Akron did....put the game in AM hands.....
futurelion::anyone who didn't see a dip in Poz's play in the second half is blind
LexLion::people always overreact
mxbscout::I think the line will include price. This figures to be a tight game and he makes fewer mistakes
attomiclion2::Any word on T Golden? Injury?
mxbscout::which is always key with the staff
vjgkam::audibles will be tough in that noise....staff: how is the team practicing for the noise?
psunittany::Paterno is sandbagging D - Paterno wants ND to crown the LOS on D
11LinebackerPSU31::I'll assume the Butkus winner is going to be OK in the longrun
PSUSmitty::hello gents - is Jimmy Shaw definitely playing?
FurnaceB::Price makes a mistake on almost every snap, if not blocking his guy can be considered "a mistake"
mxbscout::Jimmy Shaw should be good to go
psunittany::Howard 0 any HS tidbits? you watch Sukay or Ditto?
underscoreTom::if joe said Shaw should be OK...that means he's 100% already
psk114::Price is D 2 material nothing more. Hard worker I'm sure, but overmatced
MrKruger::I am not sure we'll see a whole lot of quarless for a while
MrKruger::he was pretty bad (being nice) blocking wise
HowardStern::didn't see any games last week due to rain
PlaybookMark::Gotta wonder about Mike Lucian and TE
Millertime232::Any chance Elijah plays at all this year on the OL
MrKruger::that's no excuse stern
HowardStern::we have to Kruger
LexLion::Quarless will be in there against YSU.
HowardStern::i know...im a wuss
NewYorkNittany::what is gonna happen at TE? they were a disaster
PSUSmitty::thanks guys - Joe's comments after the Akron game did not sound promising
vjgkam::Liberty looked lights out....we'll be dealing with Persa soon enough....
PSURaven::i don't like the move of Elijah Robinson to the offensive line, how bout you guys?
MrKruger::yer gettin old
HowardStern::Quarless will play out of necessity
mxbscout::I'll be stunned if Elijah Robinson does much this year on the O-line
MrKruger::his blocking though....I'm still waiting for him to put a hat on the OLB
nittanynick::me either Raven
psk114::How does your second string DT get switched at the END of fall practice right before the first game?
mxbscout::he moved over too late in the preseason
underscoreTom::if you get moved to 3rd string OL...that pretty much ends your career
HowardStern::we all are
PSUSmitty::ERob thing makes no sense
PlaybookMark::Robinson's shift illustrates Bradley/LJ feel good about the line
HowardStern::id rather see Quarless screw up than Darling
mxbscout::tells you something about what the feel about DT and OG
PSUSmitty::i thought he was progressing nicely on the line
NewYorkNittany::i thought robinson was getting good reviews at DT?
MrKruger::qualress has some ability
vjgkam::did anyone on Akrons D get a hand on AM on Saturday....??
CharlestonLion::is scott going to play this week?
MrKruger::i would doubt scott plays at all
mxbscout::Morelli was hit after getting rid of the ball a couple times but was never close to being sacked
PlaybookMark::NYN - Robinson was getting good preseason reports, but seemed to be behind Baker and EJ
MrKruger::think he's got RS written all over him
PSURaven::Morelli took a couple of hits after he got rid of the ball
nittanynick::agree. ER to OL says more about the OL than than DL
PSUSmitty::i think Scott is headed for redshirt
Alan84::No sacks, a few hurries I think. Not sure if he actually went down
psk114::I thought we were hearing that Darling could really block, but couldnt' catch a cold. It sure didn't look that way on Sat.
NewYorkNittany::what about coakley? with the TE he didn't see any action, he still hurt?
ahzroe::EJ was a MAN.
smutty::Would Joe of Old let Wallace back in to return kicks after the fumble?
MrKruger::i thought coakley still has some issues with his knee?
CharlestonLion::is hall going to be back or not....hearing conflicting stories....
psk114::EJ was awesome I agree. Very disruptive.
trock56::I forgot he got a PITT offer
BWW71::pmac what are the chances T plays?
vjgkam::Funny how no one mentions Galen in all this...he's probably sitting somewhere with a HUGE grin on his face waiting for the Domers
PlaybookMark::I haven;t heard anything to indicate Hall is gone for good
mxbscout::Hall situation is up in the air right now.
Alan84::Excellent statement Joe made putting Wallace back in
MrKruger::I liked what I saw from Odrick, but he's only got one move...the bullrush
HowardStern::he does kruger
HowardStern::odrick needs to be at OT
PSUisBACK::Hall is deep in the Paterno doghouse
PSURaven::ok, so which shaw gets the matchup against Young? Mix it up...Jimmy's power and Tim's speed?
rriva::stern, really disagree
MrKruger::I'm not sure stern. I liked what I saw from him, he just can't overpower guys at this level
PSUSmitty::just taking a shot out our boy LK
HowardStern::odrick is a potential # 1 pick as an OT
MrKruger::he's got a really really quick first step ala tamba hali
virbert::My initial impressin of Odrick is that he is too slow to play DE.
HowardStern::we have an even greater need at OT than DE
psunittany::Galen will school the Domers
PlaybookMark::I think Odrick was quick off the snap
psk114::Switch to OT and redshirt? Stern?
CharlestonLion::we have a greater need at the entire ol
MrKruger::that I agree with...I also agree that Odrick, if healthy could be a top 3 NFL pick
HowardStern::that is what i would do
PSUSmitty::Riva - any news on Broderick Green?
PSUSmitty::i think we have a very legit shot
rriva::smitty, nothing new, although i like psu's chances
PlaybookMark::ND needs to figure out how to handle the variety of targets
psk114::It's still possible, Evans looked better on Sat to me.
ahzroe::Make Odrick a blocking TE this year and OT next =)
MrKruger::NDs OL looked terrible
PlaybookMark::The team has been working crossing routes, slants and screens out of the gate in practice
LexLion::After the result in Fayetteville, I like PSU's chances even more with Green
MrKruger::Sam Young, looked like a freshman
BleedingPSU1::Tim shaw will have a field day with sam young
CharlestonLion::it is important for the young ol guys to show green he can run behind them
psk114::Yeah, Arkansa got SPANKED.
feetforlove::When u say green, u mean Broderick?
MrKruger::Shaw won't be on Young
11LinebackerPSU31::morelli can hit all the routes he wants, if we cant run we dont win
PlaybookMark::Young playing shows how shallow the OL depth is for ND
MrKruger::Young was right tackle
rriva::i spoke to writer who covers ND, and i told him i was surprised at ND's poor OL play, especially for a veteran group and he said that while the group is talented, they are soft
trock56::Sam young looked like a freshmen but he will be a top 3 pick when he leaves
PSURaven::which shaw gets young?
Alan84::A shaw will be on Young
HowardStern::Jim Shaw will be over Young
rriva::they don't have a mean streak
PlaybookMark::The ND line has zero depth
PSUSmitty::we have to abuse Young this week
MrKruger::Oh, I thought he meant Tim
PSURaven::I think I would like to see Tim Shaw on youn and use his speed
psk114::Young looked better that D'brick did, but nothing compared to Gaither two years ago.
PSUSmitty::both Shaws ought to give him fits
MrKruger::Jim Shaw may overpower Young
psunittany::ND line was bad -- holds & motion ... and bad blocking
psk114::Jim Shaw could over power anyone....... even Chuck Norris.
BleedingPSU1::stern i would bet that young will have the TE on his side which is where tim shaw played
HowardStern::Jim Shaw may well be our most imoprtant defender
trock56::I don't think GT is all that
nitnymike::jimmy shaw was tearin up that akron tackle
LexLion::Yes, I meant Brod Green
vjgkam::I just read where a LB and DB for tOSU won't play this weekend against Texas
BleedsBlueandWhite::whats everyone feeling on ausin scott..will he redsirt?
MrKruger::Ed Johnson was blowing up the interior
PlaybookMark::Jim Shaw may draw the line over to open up things for Tim
Alan84::Whose refs are covering the game? If Big 10, we all know ND can hold all day
underscoreTom::I know a lot of us questioned him transferring here, too
psunittany::they need to confuse the heckout of Young - Bradley can do that
MrKruger::he was nothing short of amazing. I thought he was our best defensive player, which allowed connor to fly
vjgkam::Tarell Brown (LB), Tyrell Gatewood (CB)
PSURaven::Start out with Jim Shaw, let him muscle Young over and wear him down then use Tim with his speed
psk114::Texas is in trouble.
FurnaceB::they play for Texas
PSUSmitty::Young is a huge liability - Bradley will definitely scheme this one
psk114::OSU by 20+
MrKruger::OSU's not beating TX by 20
PSUSmitty::psk - disagree
mxbscout::We've been saying since spring that Scott playing this season is up in the air
MrKruger::did you see what NIU did to their defense?
BleedingPSU1::that he will smitty
trock56::psk I will take that bet for 100
futurelion::OSU is not beating Texas at all
FurnaceB::lining Tim Shaw up over Young would be a gift for ND
nitnymike::i'm not convinced osu is as good as the hype
PSUSmitty::OSU/Tex is even IMO
PlaybookMark::I have been saying since the spring I am not sold is fully recovered from his knee injury
vjgkam::ys, and won't play int the tOSU game
psunittany::send a DE & OLB right at Young.....
MrKruger::I think OSU has major problems on defense
Millertime232::Who will be against young?
virbert::Tejas will beat OSU. I'm bettin' my brother's paycheck on it!
LexLion::OSU might win and I think it will, but not by 20.
BleedsBlueandWhite::texas wins that game, people are stil love with the OSU team that beat ND
LexLion::Remember, Wolfe put 150 on the ground against that defense.
futurelion::Ginn will do squat on Saturday
spud358::doesn't young struggle against speed on the end?
PSUSmitty::this coming weekend will tell a lot about a few pretenders and contenders
YearoftheHeisman::It is 2 tTexas players not playng this week. Got arrested with a gun in the car, and Mack Brown is going balistic. CB is their stud, now have to cover Ginn with 2nd teamer.
vjgkam::vibert, your brother works at McDonalds
Millertime232::Ginn will have a good game with their no. 1 guy out
PlaybookMark::Young better be able to pick up a bullrush - he was stepping back off the line
PSUSmitty::and the lack of talk about our game is laughable
psunittany::I didn't see any highlights after OSU got up 28-3
11LinebackerPSU31::Texas's o-line is the best in the country, bar none
BleedsBlueandWhite::Ginn is overrated, remember he can't block on go over the middle
LexLion::Actually, now that Texas is down a few DBs, I think Ginn might actually do something.
rriva::anytime a true frosh starts on the OL, it's a liablility, it doesn't matter how good they were in HS
LexLion::Yes, he is very overrated though
vjgkam::like they say: everything is big in Texas
futurelion::Ginn can't do anything against teams who have CB's who can run with him
MrKruger::how do you think MO Evans looked?
LexLion::However, if Huff takes him, he ain't doing squat
psk114::Ginn is the most overrated player in years IMO.
nittlion::see dabrickashaw ferguson
MrKruger::was he good enough to get more time?
CharlestonLion::Is Poz's knee still bothering him....seemed a little hobbled
spud358::I liked what I saw out of Moev
scpsu21::huff plays in the nfl lex
BleedsBlueandWhite::i am glad our game is nit being covered by espn or abc, a mlittle less pressure on us
PlaybookMark::Poz is fine
PennStater::charleston, looks like poz lost a step
nitnymike::a freshman ot is dealin with monsters who have had 3-4 years in a college weight program
futurelion::Ross will be on Ginn
BleedingPSU1::Mo needs to learn some moves
FurnaceB::and what corners can run with Ginn again?
MrKruger::all freshman do bleeding
PSUSmitty::serious question for FOS staff - was there any word on AJ Wallace returning kickoffs?
PennStater::Mark poz did not look fine
Harry8154::I'll take that action virbert
vjgkam::USC lost its most experienced defensive back when Pinkard (left) went down with a torn ACL Saturday night.
PlaybookMark::ND will blitz early and often to put Morelli on edge
mxbscout::what do you mean, Smitty
spud358::Mo has a great motor
PSUSmitty::most of what i read did not include him in the mix - either way, great to see though
PSURaven::i would like to see us go deep against ND's secondary early...loosen them up for the short to intermediate passing game
scpsu21::if joe says paul is fine paul is fine
BleedsBlueandWhite::you don't have to run with ginn, you just have to frustrate him and jam him at the line
underscoreTom::I think Poz had some rust...wasn't anticipating having to wear the brace...and was probably naturally sore at the end of the game
MrKruger::I'd like to see us have some quick slant audibles for when ND brings it off the edges
nitnymike::our oline is the key to this game
PennStater::tom I hope your right
mxbscout::Got you. I was a bit surprised by Wallace returning kicks. But he was terrific
LexLion::Shouldn't be concerned about Poz
vjgkam::if he had rust it was in his brace, not his heart
mxbscout::when he held onto the ball
BleedingPSU1::3-4 POZ = 3-4 ray lewis
nittlion::look for hunt to break big runs off of screens against the blitz
OldBridge::I hope ND blitzs to show case our receivers against the LBs on slamts and crossing routes
mxbscout::incredible difference between the speed on this team and the 2004 squad
spud358::Wallace is one of the smoothest runners I have ever seen
MrKruger::but will we utilize the slant?
LexLion::Love seeing Williams and Wallace back there on KOR. That is going to cause problems for opposition
PSUSmitty::Brennan - yeah, seemed like that AJ returning kicks was kept under wraps
MrKruger::hasn't been a steady dose of slants since engram
vjgkam::anyone else think we could put someone other than DWill in for punt returns....kinda a risk/reward situation with him'
PSUSmitty::very positive sign though - guy does appear to have DWill type skills
MrKruger::Who's the upmen from Williams/Wallace?
BWW71::what else is under wraps?
virbert::I only remember one play where Poz got tangled up with Andy Allerman and wasn't able to shed him. Clearly, the Poz is rusty.
BleedsBlueandWhite::i see us running allot more screen passes this weekend consider i expect ND to blitz morelli like crazy
MrKruger::Hahn and ???
psunittany::I think the slant comes in play vsd ND - once of those wrinkles Joe didn't want to show
mxbscout::Kruger, Quarless was in there
PlaybookMark::I had heard Wallace was catching kicks - but I didn;t get the impression he was a serious candidate at returns
nitnymike::how bad is hall in joe's doghouse?
PSUSmitty::maybe i am nuts, but I would rather have our skill talent than just about anyone on Miami and Florida State - when were we able to say that?
futurelion::we went over the middle on Saturday, there will be much more of it this week
HowardStern::we didnt show much of anything Saturday
MrKruger::ahhh, ok. cuz we may start seeing some pooch kicks
LiverpoolLion::without DWill on KR, i doubt they'd kick to AJ
PennStater::only how dedicated the fans are stern!
vjgkam::Hall is eatin Kibbles and Bits...up from Alpo
PlaybookMark::they look like old PSU
mxbscout::I think you are going to see some screen passes this week, too
rriva::kyle wright looked awful
HowardStern::i bet we saw 10-15% of the offense
scpsu21::the word your looking for is awful mark
BleedingPSU1::they ran the Norwood crossing pattern 10 times
MrKruger::stern, I was told we showed maybe 15% of the playbook, and that there's some tricks with Williams that we'll see
rriva::i thought olsen looked awful too
PlaybookMark::they are working screens in practice
Millertime232::I'd love to see more 6 yard routes and dumpoff from our RBS like against Minny
feetforlove::so do we go after Quinn or try and test him throught he air?
BleedsBlueandWhite::what we could really use is a TE to step up
PSUSmitty::feetforlove - BOTH
mxbscout::Penn State will attack Quinn
HowardStern::im sure ther eare tons of things yet to be done w/DWill
nittlion::quarless was open on his first route as a penn stater
LexLion::Miami offense is going to have problems this year. Not impressed with Wright at all.
vjgkam::Go after Quin...no doubt...send the friggin dogs
futurelion::we have to go after Quinn. he looked terrible when people were in his face
mxbscout::you know, cut off the head...
PlaybookMark::Kruger - based on what they are running we haven't seen a fraction of what they hae run with DWill in the preseason
futurelion::Bradley would be a full not to follow the gameplan GT used
MrKruger::the key to ND isn't quinn folks
scpsu21::ok on the final int, if you have your best reciever, olsen, into block your line must really suck
11LinebackerPSU31::ND lives and dies by Walker
nitnymike::wright is not a 3 and out guy
MrKruger::stopping darius walker and that swing pass is
scpsu21::in the backfield
BleedsBlueandWhite::what do we have to lose by going after him?
vjgkam::another Heisman hopeful trampled under JoePas foot
rriva::quinn certainly didn't look comfortable when the GT defense hurried him
BleedingPSU1::we will see it all this week though
BleedsBlueandWhite::he will pick us apart if we give him time
PSURaven::I expect PSU and ND to have the same defensive philosophies...blitz often and from multiple directions
nittlion::i'd love to see quarless catch a 15 yard seam route early and give ND more to think about
HowardStern::our LBs should be able to handle walker
MrKruger::we're gonna see that damned swing pass at least 5-8 times on saturday
OldBridge::Double ND wide out when not blitzing?? Make TE beat us.
PSUSmitty::we will blitz, than feign a blitz and drop back
rriva::one concern i do think PSU fans are overlooking is PSU's tendency to come out flat, at least early on, when they are on the road
MrKruger::when we're in nickel/dime, that's when they'll break out that pass
vjgkam::yup, and Connors gonna feed off that swing pass
PlaybookMark::Interesting comment regarding Sat - one observer said they were dropping Poz into coverage to see how Connor handled pressuring the pocket
nitnymike::let's not kid ourselves..quinn is good and is one tough kid
futurelion::Walker lives off of those delays and draw plays. our LB's will eat those up
BleedingPSU1::nd cant use any akron tape for this game
spud358::riva, this is a new team
BleedsBlueandWhite::i am not worried about them being flat
psunittany::Paterno showed 15% of the offense - they ran the same pass routes & running plays the last 3 qtrs
nittlion::been a while since we won a game we shouldn't on the road
zeta1344::so where are the places in South Bend that PSU fans will be hanging out at, say, Friday night?
BleedingPSU1::Mark i take it they liked what they sall
vjgkam::psu...I was saying he opened 10% of the book on Saturday
MrKruger::nitt...psu should win this game
BleedsBlueandWhite::they know they nedd to gain the respect again, and this is the game
MrKruger::been saying it since the orange bowl
PlaybookMark::Bleeding no doubt
futurelion::riva, i like that they're in lockdown mode. we should come out pretty fast. it's obvious joe is thinking the same thing as you
vjgkam::why is Galen so quiet in all this?/
PSUVA92::If you can't get up for ND on the road there is a problem
nitnymike::the grotto..lighting candles
PlaybookMark::Galen is always quiet
rriva::even last year, with the veteran squad, every away game PSU struggled out of the gates (even Illinois)
MrKruger::i think coaches get quiet when they know exactly...EXACTLY what they have
EtownNit::Scoring first would be huge this Sat.
Ytownlion::The only thing i'm scared about is the jump ball. They seem to comple one or two deep ones a game. As good as Quinn is (and he is), he's also lucky to have those big athletic WR's.
HowardStern::who was the last good team we beat on the road?
Millertime232::we can't be down by more than 7 at half...
HowardStern::Miami in 1999?
rriva::i think it will be an issue, psu cannot go down early against ND
MrKruger::would be my guess
vjgkam::Florida State in January Howard
nittlion::mrob willed that team on the road last year...that late Michigan TD drive was all MRob guts
futurelion::we need to stop ND on their opening drive. they'll have the ball first.
MrKruger::maybe wisconsin 2002
nittlion::we need someone to do that this year
HowardStern::that wasnt a road game
LexLion::I will tell you what ... if this is a tight game, ND's FG kicker could blow it for them. He is lousy
PSUVA92::ND 1990 LOL
PSUBeirut::Morelli will drop a warning-shot bomb very early- hopefully it's complete, but even if it isn't it will set the tone that we're coming after them
spud358::mrob was also the one who was really flat
PlaybookMark::FSU wasn't a road game?
vjgkam::did they play it in State College?
BleedingPSU1::i am waiting for DWILL to take the kickoff and throw the ball across the field to an open wallace!!!
virbert::Does a rainy afternoon mean a sloppy running game again?
vjgkam::it was in FSU's back yard
HowardStern::PSU fans filled 2/3 of the stadium
mxbscout::There were more PSU fans in Miami and the Joe Robbie than there were FSU fans
nittlion::bleeding, that bus will never come ; )
BleedsBlueandWhite::any new news on the recruiting front?
BleedingPSU1::lol i know
MrKruger::stern, I think wisky in 2002 may qualify as our last big road win
rriva::i think things will be quiet on the recruiting front for a while
MrKruger::though you can make an argument, indiana 2004
BWW71::any chance of a williams/hunt backfield?
feetforlove::Are we going to get a good amount of people in South Bend even if we dont have Tickets?
11LinebackerPSU31::Northwestern last year
BleedsBlueandWhite::un til michigan weeeknd?
PlaybookMark::FSU was totally a road game
FurnaceB::that was a nice road win, but was Wisky a top ten type team?
PSUBeirut::Did Miami's loss hurt their standing with Austin, does anyone think? Or do they have to drop a couple more?
feetforlove::How sweet would it be to just take over the outside of the teh stadium
vjgkam::Michigan last year....
underscoreTom::there will be a good many ticketless PSU fans there
LexLion::Hard to tell who will be the next committ, Millertime
HowardStern::im sorry...but i dot consider Wiscy elite
MalibuHammy::quiet till Michigan right Riva?
rriva::all of theos games are supporting my point that psu struggles early on in away games
PSUSmitty::Riva - that is a great point
nitnymike::think joe will cancel the official visits for michigan?
vjgkam::who doesn't rriva?
rriva::sure psu won some of those games, but i doubbt psuc an go down the way it did to NW last year against a team like ND
nittanynick::wisky was not good in 2002
PlaybookMark::HS do you consider ND elite?
LexLion::no, they won't cancel visits this year
11LinebackerPSU31::yeah but riva psu hasnt had a big road game in a while except for UM
PSUSmitty::but, i expect us to be sharp
nittlion::at least we stopped struggluing in home games!
HowardStern::yes ND is elite
HowardStern::Wiscy is not
11LinebackerPSU31::and the UM game followed OSU so it was a letdown
vjgkam::ND is elite?? who the hell have they beaten lately/
rriva::11, that's exactly my point, psu has not in recent years proven it can succeed with regularity on the road
Ytownlion::I just got on here a few minutes ago, any confirmed news on Shaw and Golden's injuries?
mxbscout::HS, check their overall records the last 10 years
PlaybookMark::Wisconsin had 8 wins in 2002, ND had 9 last year - Wisconsin has won a bowl in the last 10 years
PSUSmitty::Stern - Wiscy pretty elite under Alvarez
mxbscout::not even close
mxbscout::everybody jumping on poor HS
FurnaceB::Wisky was not elite
11LinebackerPSU31::PSU hadnt been successful since 1999 anywhere until last year
HowardStern::but right now ND is elite
nitnymike::wisky beat auburn last year
FurnaceB::they are maybe every four years
LineMountain::Wisky has done a heck of a lot more the last 1 0 yrs then ND and has the toughest home field in the Big 10
vjgkam::ND hasn't beaten anyone recently...they read their own hype
MalibuHammy::Wisky will be a tough one this year. We pull it out , but it will be very close.
nittanynick::Evans didn't play
HowardStern::probably due in large part to the hype machine
FurnaceB::was Wisky an elite team in 2002? Far, far from it
HowardStern::but perception is reality
PSUBeirut::Did anyone else catch an arrogant vibe from WEIS regarding PSU? Saying that he's not really focused on what our D will bring- that if ND can just minimize THEIR mistakes then that should be enough?
BleedsBlueandWhite::it will only be an eliete win if nd wins more than 10 games this year
PlaybookMark::Winsconsin has won SEVEN bowls since ND's last bowl win
futurelion::fwiw, ND has come out flat in every single game since USC last year
PSUSmitty::can't believe no bowl wins since the early 90's for the Domers LMAO
PSUBeirut::That came off as arrogant to me. Of course, Joe kinda threw it back at Weis a bit at his PC.
indynittany::I think Iowa can make the argument for toughest field in the B10
HowardStern::Wiscy is not an elite level program...no matter how many bowls they win
MalibuHammy::Odrick played against Akron. I was hoping for a Redshirt.
nittlion::i won't believe that we can win a big road game until we do
PlaybookMark::If perception is relaity then FSU was an elite team PSU beat
HowardStern::wiscy is in the nexttier
LineMountain::Wisky is elite in my book
TylerB24::HS is harvard an elite program then?
PSUSmitty::FSU definitely elite
LineMountain::Alvarez was the best
spud358::Odrick and evans played
LexLion::I'm not sure FSU is elite now
HowardStern::schools like OSU, scUM, USC, ND are elite
nitnymike::i'd put wisky in the "good program" catagory,not the elite catagory
PlaybookMark::Wiscky has won back to back Rose Bowls
PSUSmitty::Lex, FSU still has cache and tons of guys in the pros
HowardStern::FSU is elite
LineMountain::ND has not won a bowl in 10+ yrs. wake up dude
nittlion::fsu isn't elite but their speed did and would give us fits
PlaybookMark::HS - so your definition is based on history?
MalibuHammy::Odrick , from the few plays I saw, looked more like an ideal DT or OT.
LexLion::That is a program on the decline
vjgkam::I just can't wait to hear how the media spins ND's loss on Saturday...."early in the year", "looking ahead", blah blah, blah
PlaybookMark::By HS defintion FSU is elite
rriva::malibu, absolutely agree, keep odrick on defense, move him inside
FurnaceB::How many Rose Bowls did Wisky make when they played OSU and Michigan in the same season?
BWW71::FSU and Miami OL were brutal
MalibuHammy::FSU is elite , but we would knock them off again if we saw them in a bowl IMO
spud358::I agree malibu, but I'd like to see him get more reps
PSUSmitty::i like that idea Riva
HowardStern::perception, history, recruiting prowess
nitnymike::rriva..odrick is too skinny for inside at this time
PlaybookMark::How does a team not win a bowl in a decade and are considered "elite" if it's not based on history?
rriva::i think it would be a crime to move odrick to OT
FurnaceB::overall talent.......this ND team has MUCH more talent than Wisky 2002
MalibuHammy::What about DT Riva?
HowardStern::you put Wiscy on in a prime time game and your ratings suck
nittlion::fsu made our OL look SLOW
LineMountain::perception and recruiting prowess are in the eye of the beholder.
PSUSmitty::Riva - unless he becomes a Top 10 NFL pick as a OT
rriva::he just flat out embarassed some quality OL from the inside, he got double teamsed the whole AA game
Alan84::So Elite has to do with TV ratings?
PlaybookMark::Furnace - One Rose Bowl in 1999
nittanynick::8 wins isn't much when you play 14 games
nitnymike::against high schoolers
spud358::could Erob switch have somethin gto do with Odrick to DT?
nitnymike::albeit great ones
mxbscout::Doubt it, spud
PlaybookMark::What exactly has ND done to earn an elite status - aside from their 96 Heismans?
spud358::that move is just perplexing
FurnaceB::Mark, you have to be kidding?
nitnymike::who here is going out to nd?
Alan84::From what HS said - they have their own network, that qualifies them
mxbscout::Not really, spud, if they are considering playing a true freshman at tackle
vjgkam::Hire high profile coaches Mark
spud358::so what is the 2/3 deep at DT for ND?
nittlion::I would have liked to see us play some second teamers against Akron on D
PlaybookMark::Furnace - they wnt to the Rose in 1999 playing both OSU and UM
nittlion::we may need them Saturday
PSUSmitty::PBMark - they are elite because they have their own TV network (roll the eyes)
Cafe210::I'm in mike- leaving for Chitown Thursday morning
nittanynick::2002 wisky went 2-6 in BT. Not real elite.
OldBridge::Will we ever get a tight end ? It doesn't appear Morrelli even looks at the TE.
spud358::the first teamers needed the reps
HowardStern::they have their own network for starters
nitnymike::210..great..have a ball
FurnaceB::I'm talking about your "what has ND done to be condered elite" comment
HowardStern::everyone pays attention to them
HowardStern::they recruit nationally
PlaybookMark::Well BYU has their own network on Direct TV - guess they are elite too
vjgkam::I don't...so therefore everone doesn't
HowardStern::dont be silly
smutty::Think ND wears the green jerseys on Saturday? I think they lose almost every time they wear them.
futurelion::an Elite team is a top 10 level team
FurnaceB::absurd to question whether or not ND is an elite program
speedomike02::I agree HS
futurelion::has nothing to do with popularity
PSUSmitty::yeah, but ND games can be had with an old TV with rabbit ears (roll eyes again)
vjgkam::By halftime Weis will be callinghome and telling the wife to move up the pizza delivery
FurnaceB::is there a more prestigious program in football? They had a bad five years or so, otherwise, they have been at the top of the college football world throughout their history
HowardStern::im surpriosed that anyone is even arguing this with me...its a no brainer imo that Wiscy does not qualify as an elite program
nitnymike::nd is elite
psunittany::Wisky is NOT elite
PlaybookMark::Furnace we just have different definitions of "elite" ND is an "elite" historical school - going .500 against winning programs is not elite in my book - sorry
LexLion::Wisky is solid
LiverpoolLion::I don't think ND would want to recognize PSU as worthy of using the green jerseys
speedomike02::Wiscy is definitley in that next tier of programs, but not elite.
vjgkam::elite program = PSU....nuff said
PSU42Fan::wisconsin = not elite
LineMountain::uh, because Wisky has accomplished 5 times what ND has the less 10 yrs
nitnymike::solid is a good word
futurelion::howard, if you're going on on the field production, ND isn't in Wisky's league over the last decade
psunittany::PSU wins saturday - I have an extra pair of tickets
vjgkam::110,000 day in and day out...= eliote
Millertime232::what has psu done to be elite?
vjgkam::graduated a helluva lot more athletes than most others for one
FurnaceB::.500 against winning teams over what time span?
PlaybookMark::in 2005 ND went 2-2 against winning teams
LineMountain::Any news on Snow?
vjgkam::yes, no snow in the forecast here
HowardStern::ND certainly wasnt elite the past decade
LineMountain::How about Shaw?
PSU42Fan::usually comes in december, but i've seen snow at thanksgiving
vjgkam::Shawe is playin
smutty::Is the line still at -8
HowardStern::but the fact that it took them 1 year to turn it around proves that as a program thery are elite...much like PSU
PSUSmitty::Stern - turn it around?
futurelion::howard, that's if you believe they're back
daCronk::what is the debate re:elite?
PSUSmitty::they need to win a bowl game first
LexLion::Stern, would Iowa be elite, or next tier?
nitnymike::nd cycled down for a while as do all elite programs..bama,usc,texas,ou and on and on and on
Ytownlion::Howard, they played no one last year. that is how they turned it around
futurelion::they haven't proven squat imo
LineMountain::ND was elite and now they are being hyped bvack into elite status by the media. The proof will be in the pudding.
PSU42Fan::ND is elite because of their history
nitnymike::we cycled down too,but we're elite
Ytownlion::they are elite again when they win a bowl game.......any bowl game
PlaybookMark::HS - again I would question 2005 being as great as some would say - a turnaround yes - going .500 vs. winning programs isn't quite elite to me
Cafe210::what refs are working the ND game?
underscoreTom::JoePa's next win puts him in 10th place all time in Big Ten wins
futurelion::mike, we beat some good teams last year, ND didn't
PSULion04R11::we need to make sure the pudding stays uneaten for evidence then
HowardStern::they certainly recruit elite
PSU42Fan::they have their own network
futurelion::yea last year, we've recruited better than them I believe every year this millenium
daCronk::there are some schools that unless they go 20 years without winning will always be elite...
FurnaceB::does anyone think Notre Dame will not be back on track under Weiss?
HowardStern::i agree that ND wasnt great last year...or elite
daCronk::USC,ND,PSU,Bama, Neb, Miami, FSU, OU
HowardStern::but that doesnt change the fact that they are elite now
vjgkam::Wesi will get them there eventually...if he hangs around long enough
PlaybookMark::Furnace define back on track - back to nine wins or back to NCs?
daCronk::probably a group of 15 to 20
restoartheroar::the only thing i am scared about is that PSU isnt great on the road
nittanynick::you're talking this year though. as of Sat they're an elite team.
FurnaceB::9 wins or more, playing for a MNC every 5 years or so perhaps
FurnaceB::if your ND
daCronk::georgia,florida as well
futurelion::ND is 'elite' in my mind if they go out and win 11 games this year
PlaybookMark::What has ND done to earn elite status since 2005? Beat a mediocre GT offense?
futurelion::and win a bowl game against a good team
nittlion::they are elite this week...isn't that all that counts?
futurelion::but it's premature to say they're elite this year
PSU42Fan::too short sighted, mark
diddy1::Is Rutgers now elite??
nitnymike::there are about 15 elite programs...osu,um and psu in the big 10
Alan84::what has ND done in the last 10 years to earn elite status
spud358::soooo.... anyone feel like talking about PSU football..... a team we all agree is "elite"
nitnymike::hey ru is steppin up
futurelion::they only beat GT because GT's playcalling was Jay Paterno-esque
daCronk::just because you have a few down years doesn't mean you are downgraded..those individual squads may not be elite but the program still is
LexLion::GT was WAY WAY WAY TOO conservative in that game
vjgkam::Nd is not elite...nut Charlie like to e-eat
LineMountain::Anyone see Shaw limping?
Ytownlion::can saturday come any sooner?
PlaybookMark::No ND beat GT because they had one major target which they doubled up on
coachbuttemaker::playing GT on the road is a tough opener
11LinebackerPSU31::can we stop hating on Jay now?
nittlion::they only beat GT because GT's quarterback was Jay Paterno-esque
OldBridge::How is Clark simulating Quinn on the scout team working out?
TylerB24::I can't believe the hype over ND's defense improving. GT has the worst O in the ACC
futurelion::Ball wasn't bad imo. the play calling was
vjgkam::hating on Jay?? absolutely....AM's head needs to swivel a bit
LexLion::Duke's is worse
futurelion::Ball played as good a game as he's ever had
nitnymike::it's tough for the psu's and the nd's to compete with those 3 and out schools
psk114::USC OKLA LSU UGA UF FSU UM PSU ND MICH OSU TEX VATECH+ Elite
PSU42Fan::media doesn't seem to in love with ND right now
LineMountain::I am praying the OLine delivers some holes for Hunt !!!
underscoreTom::vatech is not elite
speedomike02::Va Tach not elite
LexLion::Maryland's is worse than GT
Cafe210::How would rain effect the game ?
virbert::rriva, How are you feeling about our chances with Derrick Morgan?
PSULion04R11::media aka espn doesn't want to distract from their game
psk114::In the last 10 years they have been better than us.
nittanynick::the players would get wet
psunittany::How will we exploit ND's LBs? thoughts?...i think look for mismatch DWill in slot on them....
vjgkam::elite programs are not just about wins/losses to me
Ytownlion::VT is and elite team for the first 8 weeks of every season
daCronk::VT needs another 10-15 years at this level to start that discussion
PSU42Fan::does dailey play TE or WR?
psk114::Played for a natl. championship.
PlaybookMark::Weis will improve ND's recruiting - although I am not sure how much on defense
spud358::what is our game plan for Mcknight and the shark?
BWW71::run right at them psunit
futurelion::dailey palys WR
LineMountain::Start a thread on elite programs. Let it go !!!
rriva::42, andrew dailey?
psk114::They are getting there, it's close.
PSU42Fan::he had a few catches in his first game
spud358::zone all around or man up?
restoartheroar::Lets do predictions I say 28-24 PSU
psunittany::I think King should be on McKnight & double Jeff S w/ Davis & someone else
vjgkam::Anyone think YSU is an issue...14th ranked in the D1AA polls
spud358::a agree nittany
LexLion::McKnight is going to be a bigger pain in the rear than Schmardjia, IMO
daCronk::basically you know you are elite when you suck for 5 or 6 years (aka ND,USC,OU, PSU,Bama) and everyone still talks about you and you still get top recruits
speedomike02::I dont like King on the Shark
OldBridge::Double 1 of them and see if the TE can beat us.
11LinebackerPSU31::Is Mo Williams still a Pitt lock?
psunittany::I like King on McKnight
spud358::king showed he is not very physically strong
futurelion::no way McKnight is more dangerous than Shark
mxbscout::One game at a time, vjg
nittlion::AJ on the Shark
PlaybookMark::King will likely paly press coverage on McKnight with Donnie Johnson playing support
futurelion::we have no one who can man up Jeff S
rriva::McKnight was the best WR on ND's offense against GT
psunittany::but Shark is a big guy ... Davis is physical...give him safety help
FurnaceB::YSU is not an issue
LexLion::I don't know about Williams and Pitt, but he led SV to a 68-0 thumping over my alma mater Friday night
psk114::See to me BAMA isn't there any longer, they have been somewhat down for too long now.
FurnaceB::should beat them by 40 plus
11LinebackerPSU31::Rob or Bob, Mo Williams still a Pitt lock?
spud358::exatly, which is why king locks down on McK and davis/scirrotto cover shark
PSUSmitty::Donne Johnson to help with Shark
rriva::my one questions is this: why does jeff. s. always spin the ball on the ground when he makes a reception, has anyone else noticed that
PlaybookMark::The DBs have to lay the lumber on receivers - make the wonder where they are - take their focus off the pass
psunittany::King will make McKnight disappear
rriva::11, too early to say re: williams
vjgkam::any chance Mo comes to Happy valley for Michigan??
Ytownlion::he's a cocky sob riva
PSU42Fan::it's a game where he tries to spell his name before the ball falls over
LexLion::Yep, Shark is cocky SOB
rriva::vj, he will be there for UM
psk114::sholdn't that be a penalty?
virbert::rriv, Is NC State a strong consideration for Derrick Morgan?
vjgkam::that should help us
nittlion::he kisses whomever it ends up pointing to
futurelion::anyone else think Akron beats NC State ?
LexLion::Virbert, that is the school I'm more concerned with for Morgan
rriva::vir, as in do i think they have a legit shot?
PlaybookMark::The secondary has to "punch them in the mouth" early and often
spud358::I hope DJ or AS gets a good open field shot at those guys
vjgkam::wondering though if JoePa will cancle officlials for that game rriva
LexLion::I think Arkon can beat NC State
rriva::i think morgan will ultimately choose between OSU and PSU
psk114::UM losing last night and a couple more this year could be HUGE for our recruting efforts
PSUSem::marcus stone of nc st threw for like 37 yards against app st.
futurelion::our LB's and safeties wil lget shots at ND's WR's with all those passes out intothe flats that ND loves
11LinebackerPSU31::screw miami as long as we win recruiting will take care of itself
BWW71::miami has an easy sched now though
Cafe210::agree psk - Still, McCoy, Austin...
psunittany::Morganto PSU b/c OSU has other DEs they like better
nittlion::i'd wr screen at Jking based on the akron game
psk114::I agree Mark. Could have a bearing on a few potential PSU targets if Coker gets the hook.
PSU42Fan::he was a bit exposed, wasn't he?
psunittany::I love how DJ & Anthiny S can tackle....
PlaybookMark::They will run screens - which King has to be alert for
OldBridge::ND loves those wide receiver screens. Good call lion.
rriva::anthony scirotto is an intelligent intelligent DB
vjgkam::With Am going to be at the helm for two years, and Clark as 2nd team...how does it bode for Devlin now??/
LineMountain::Amato is probably going to get fired.
psunittany::King could get a jump on a screen & pick 6
PSU42Fan::how many of them left early?
futurelion::what i'm worried about is Weis will dink and dunk down the field if we give that to him
nittlion::i didn't mind king getting run over as much as his two open field whiffs
futurelion::we can't lay off their WR's
PSU42Fan::i agree future
nittlion::those will hurt us
vjgkam::only thing Weis is dunkin on Sat is dooughnuts
LexLion::Several coaches in the ACC should be on the hot seat
futurelion::we have to play to win on defense in this game
PlaybookMark::Maimi does have an easy schedule
Alan84::Do you think Scrap had King playing that deep to let ND see it?
psunittany::I am really confident we beat ND ... they have too many holes
speedomike02::they can dink and dunk all they want, but if we hold them to FGs I'll feel good about that
LineMountain::Agree. Future. PSU playing a soft zone abd ND dink & dunk for 7
OldBridge::I think ND is going to come out running screens to minimize the pass rush like they did at Tennessee last year.
LexLion::Mark, think Miami has one or two more losses coming
futurelion::speed, they have an incredibly effective RZ offense
virbert::Miami won't beat VaTech.
LexLion::Louisville can beat them minus Bush
PlaybookMark::King usually doesn't play back - he likes to press - it was odd to see him play the cushion
LexLion::VPI can beat them
psunittany::King was in Ginn's pocket - Scrap had him back off in Akron... heck BW game, King played 10 yards off the ball
BWW71::to who lex?
rriva::all right guys, i gotta head out, be good
PlaybookMark::Who does Miami lose to? BC?
PSU42Fan::i gave them an extra fg
ututsumuju::how did ND's dline look vs GT?
PSU42Fan::see yeah rob
ritcheyk::Miami will beat both VT and Lousville
LineMountain::Can the front 4 get pressure. Shaw, Alford, Johnson, Shaw ????
futurelion::ND's Dline was average
speedomike02::future I agree I'm just saying I expect them to move the ball but if we can hold them to 3 we've got a good chance
HowardStern::FSU may well end up unbeaten
psunittany::I think Miami beats UL ... speed plus physical defense will stifle UL
HowardStern::only 3 more road games...MD, dook, and NC State
psk114::Miami is in a weird spot. They QUIT on Coker in the bowl last year. They could potentially do the same this year.
futurelion::certainly speed. their kickers are awful
Alan84::When the offense does not play a WR on King's side (which they did many times) what is King's responsibility?
11LinebackerPSU31::FSU will have to play Miami again
LexLion::Game is in Louisville and that offense is very good even without Bush
futurelion::yea, i was impressed with UL's backup RB's
ritcheyk::not good enough for UM's D
PSU42Fan::anyone think we use more 4-3 against ND?
daCronk::no way does miami make it to the acc title game
PlaybookMark::FSU still has to play Florida and I wouldn;t count out Clemson
EtownNit::Can you believe how bad UVA has become so quickly?
psk114::I think all discipline is gone at UM. Coker is gone.
LexLion::Stripling and Smith are luxuries to have in the event of injury
LexLion::Both are talented and have experience when Bush went down last year/
NewYorkNittany::cowherd ripped into uva again today
psunittany::Pitt fans act like they won the NC this weekend....
rednecklion::I went to the Pitt v UVA game and wow is UVA bad.
PSU42Fan::both fsu and miami looked out of control last night
nittlion::uva and md...yuck
futurelion::didnt they both have over 600 yards last year lex ?
PSU42Fan::way too many personal fouls
LexLion::You could see UVA falling back
ritcheyk::AT this point, UVA, NC and NCSt seem to be in trouble
LineMountain::Did Pitt even make it on TV ?
LexLion::Yes they did Future
mxbscout::PSU42, I think PSU is considering the lineup with T. Shaw at DE a 4-3
EtownNit::Groh's gotta be gone soon.
PlaybookMark::Miami and Florida are running 1980 offenses
11LinebackerPSU31::PSU vs. Florida for the Championship
mxbscout::you will see a lot of that
nittlion::nc is recruiting well
liftin::didnt groh get a huge contract?
PSU42Fan::yeah...i saw the discussion with Yes earlier
futurelion::mods, any chance we see Hayes at the standup DE this year ?
LexLion::Groh wasn't that great of a coach when he had all the talent in the world at UVA.
PlaybookMark::both have stripped out any complexity and motion from their schemes
speedomike02::11LB that's what is was on my X-Box so it's got to be true
psunittany::It's tough to be a middle pack team in ACC
PSU42Fan::i mean the traditional w/4 down lineman
LexLion::Monster recruiting classes and a bunch of underachievers
PSUSmitty::PBMark - it is mystifying
ritcheyk::we will see how NC's recruiting ends up with the year they will ahve in 2006
nitnymike::but man, those 2 defenses were fast last night
psk114::UNC got alot of early momentum. Let see if they can hold onto those recruits.
mxbscout::I don't think you will see a lot of that, 42
11LinebackerPSU31::actually im never wrong so...
PSUSmitty::the team we beat in 1987 had a far more innovative offense
LineMountain::Amato, Groh, Bunting, Coker all on the hot seat. Half the ACC is on the hot seat.
PSU42Fan::or is the 3-4/4-3 our sole D for the year?
PlaybookMark::UNC may have some recruits reconsidering after they way they played Rutgers
mxbscout::PSU plays a lot of excellent QBs this year. That's why Shaw was moved
EtownNit::Groh got an extension, but they'll have to eat it eventually.
LexLion::Line, one more bad year and Friedgen is on that seat as well
speedomike02::I was very impressed with Blackledge during the game last night
ritcheyk::we have to keep Fridge at UMD
rednecklion::I am confused by what defense PSU will be playing all year
futurelion::he was great speed, lots of good insight
PlaybookMark::Shaw will continue to play up - he needs to to account for his size disadvantage
nittlion::bunting will get another year just based on his recruiting
mxbscout::redneck, part of the idea is to confuse opponents
BWW71::Sturdivant would be nice PBMark
LexLion::I think Rutgers beating UNC is a big help with Powell and Saunders
PSU42Fan::recruiting slow right now?
nitnymike::i hope we don't see that 3-5- 3 anymore
liftin::if the OL gets hold of shaw he'll be a rag doll.. got to use that blazing speed.
mxbscout::Shaw is flexible enough to allow them to move into an actual 3-4 on the fly if they wanted to
futurelion::or how about that 2-4-5
LineMountain::Blackledge is the best ESPN has how did CBS let him go for that idiot Danielson?
rednecklion::I still think keeping shaw on the end will ultimately result in opponents rushing a lot.
PSU42Fan::we could have killed the 3-5-3 if we wanted to
nittlion::i don't think the rutgers loss matters
NewYorkNittany::i was disappointed we didn't go harder after rice
psk114::It's rutgers! It matters
nitnymike::42..we couldn't run on it
NewYorkNittany::and i knew those schools recruiting him as a DB were nuts
futurelion::how have we let so many good RB's get away in our area ? Rice, Slaton, Tate
PlaybookMark::Losing to Rutgers is a statement
ritcheyk::UNC is not the kind of school that can stand a 3-8 record
mxbscout::I'm guessing Blackledge saw what was happening with ABC/ESPN
psk114::Slaton and Tate are gonna hurt.
PlaybookMark::mike - they were rushing 7-8 - they gave up the pass and Morelli took it
PSU42Fan::they would have had to adjust if morelli had been allowed to audible and kill them downfield
mxbscout::and realized it made sense to get on board
futurelion::if we would have Slaton right now, wow..
nittlion::not to kids from nc...it's not like unc has been going to bcs games anyway
futurelion::the best RB duo in the nation
NewYorkNittany::and we lost rice not once but TWICE!
LineMountain::I am hoping Morelli doesnt throw into double coverage again. He wont be so lucky out there
ritcheyk::Slaton would have had 40 total yards against Akron
11LinebackerPSU31::OMG Morelli played great some people are looking for reasons to complain
futurelion::Morelli was really asking for it on Saturday with osme of those passes to the sideline
feetforlove::I think PSU will win
nittlion::did anyone else think Morelli was a bit late with most of his throws?
feetforlove::it matches up well for htem
psunittany::You can't expect to run from a single back set when the D sens the SS & OLB.
speedomike02::I hope he does, shows his confidence
LineMountain::He was great statistially but got lucky on a couple
PlaybookMark::bottom line - Akron gave the pass up and Morelli took it - can;t ask for too much more
nittlion::even the TDS
futurelion::nit, Morelli gets the ball out of there in a hurry
LexLion::UNC only has two given wins now - Furman and Duke
EtownNit::agree future. they were jumping the routes 2nd half.
11LinebackerPSU31::I think he made one bad throw that almost got picked, the rest were in the thrid row
LexLion::VPI, Clemson, Miami, ND and Va. Tech should be losses
PSU42Fan::he needs to take advantage of the speed of our wr's after the catch (see: Norwood)
psunittany::PSU WRs ran the same routes over & Over 2nd half
feetforlove::I remember the almost pick
psk114::Did any of you guys ever throw a wet football? It's hard! He's fine.
nitnymike::i'm still worried about our oline
11LinebackerPSU31::Morelli is fine
LexLion::Flip of coins ... South Florida, Virginiaa, NC State and Wake
nitnymike::we'll find out saturday
futurelion::we were running the exact same palys
11LinebackerPSU31::If we can run, We Are... National Champs
psunittany::PSU offense is 2nd half was so bland, it made vanilla look wild & crazy -- we will be fine vs ND -- we showed 15% vs Akron
nitnymike::cuz nd is gonna thow the kitchen sink at us
PSU42Fan::i'm not worried about his arm
psk114::OL is our only MAJOR ???? right now I think.
speedomike02::great players are willing to take big risks
futurelion::Morelli was making reads pretty well early in the game
11LinebackerPSU31::remember MRob last year vs. USF?
ritcheyk::Our OL missed a million assignments
PlaybookMark::The OL focused on pass protection - it showed - plus they were not going to run any complexity out of the backfield in this one
11LinebackerPSU31::Remember MRob rest of the year?
psunittany::We showed 15% Saturday ... the Akron tape is worthless for ND def coord
futurelion::second half, you could tell he was locking on
EtownNit::I'm more worried about the pass play calls coming down from the booth.
LineMountain::Its amazing ND fans still seem consumed with GA Tech
PSU42Fan::he played everything excpet punter at psu
futurelion::Hall will get our WR's open
nitnymike::is price gonna start?
spud358::here's my question..... If our TE's are so bad, why not put in a great OLmen who could catch a ball if it had to be thrown to him?
PlaybookMark::ND fans are concerned with ND's performance
PSU42Fan::tape is worthless from a scheme standpoint
nittlion::if we had a great OLman, he'd be playing OL!
PSU42Fan::but not personnel
speedomike02::I don't know it took MRob a few games-remember NW?
psk114::He was 11!
ritcheyk::we need a TE that can block - our OL haven't shown they can block either
rednecklion::mrob struggled the first 2 1/2 games
futurelion::I personally think ND showed a ton more than they wanted too
mxbscout::GT offense was pretty bad in 2005. Held to 17 or fewer points in four of last five games
PlaybookMark::ND had to show more than they wanted to
psk114::They sure did, they'd have lost if they didn't dig deep.
rednecklion::The oline is clearly the biggest ?
speedomike02::and we didn;'t have to
futurelion::we were lucky enough to come out and take a big lead right away
futurelion::and keep it very bland
speedomike02::GT offense = toss ball to Johnson and pray
11LinebackerPSU31::DWil will break one this weekend, we win on special team.