mxbscout:What's up, am?
am19psu:not much, brennan, how are you doing?
rriva:what's up guys
am19psu:what's up riva?
trock56:hey rob any word from chris colasanti yet
rriva:i'll keep at it, i don't want to bother him though
mxbscout:So what is the prevailing thought on the game this week?
trock56:why rob, hope he is not rethinking things
rriva:no he's not rethinking, just i'm not one to leave a kid a message 3 nights in a row
rriva:if they want to call me back, they will, if not, that's cool, i just won't poster them
trock56:I understand that rob, just odd you seemed to hit it off with him before
am19psu:mark, i got 34-14 tosu
Joypa:I wouldn't pester them either.
rriva:sometimes they're just busy, that's all
trock56:Colasanti will be the Next great one in a line of LB for us
Nittanylfan:I think the game this weekend could get ugly again
Joypa:Nah, we win.
mxbscout:I think Penn State will play better than ND, but still an uphill climb
am19psu:agreed... and i'm ok with that
Nittanylfan:they better play better LOL
am19psu:not that my opinion matters much
trock56:I hope we win. But because of last year they are not going to let there guard down
rriva:but, i think psu beats um at home
Nittanylfan:last time I read.. point spread 17
Joypa:The planets align and we win
rriva:all i need to know is psu is playing a ranked team on the road
mxbscout:A real key, I believe, is that Penn State must find a way to keep time of possession at least even
am19psu:i'm seeing +16 at pinnacle
Joypa:That is my story andI'm sticking to it.
rriva:brennan, good point, osu's run defense isn't proven yet, if psu can maintain an effective run game, psu could make this interesting
mxbscout:Joypa, the planets align, no special teams blunder and no turnovers
Maxicat:Tressell plays a lot of players
underscoreTom:they need to play a defense that works too
Joypa:Put a man on Smith?
PennStatePigskin:Time of posession doesn't mean much if the other team is scoring quickly.
trock56:So what is the deeal on stupar. Was he nominated ( which is what I expect ) for the AA game or did he get an invite
am19psu:joypa, why? he hardly has any yards rushing this year
Harry8154:Sorry guys, though OSU is a good team, they are not even close to some of the more impressive No. 1 teams. Unless the coaching staff blows this game, PSU should have a decent shot at a victory.
mxbscout:Stupar was nominated for the AA Bowl
mxbscout:he has not been selected
Joypa:Keep him in the pocket
mxbscout:I'm anxious to see how many PA guys make the AA bowl, see how much sway Lichtenfels has
Nittanylfan:Brennan. anything interesting of note this week ???
am19psu:i haven't seen any tosu games this year, but i do run a b10 fantasy league.. he has not been at all dangerous running the ball
mrl5043:PSU has a 50/50 chance of winning every game
mxbscout:Everything seems quiet this week, which is good for PSU
trock56:where is BOB
mxbscout:Bob will be here
trock56:thanks for the warning
Nittanylfan:what.. we're not closing off the media from the players ??
am19psu:psp is on high alert
Maxicat:not sure the D scheme would be any different if Zwick started... everything in front
mxbscout:Players are available, which I think is good
trock56:anything new on recruitung especially running back
Nittanylfan:is Jim Shaw out this week ??
mxbscout:Jim Shaw practiced today and should be back
Nittanylfan:how about Golden ??
mxbscout:I have not heard anything on Golden
PennStatePigskin:What is up with Harrison at center ?
Nittanylfan:is anyone "out" for the game ??
rriva:harrison needs to start at left guard over cadogan
mxbscout:Don't think so on injury front, Nittany, but knock on wood. a couple days of practice left
PennStatePigskin:I agree Rob.
mrl5043:honestly does PSU really have to change the defensive game plan much from last year? i know we lost the secondary and the DL aside from Alford but tOSU runs the same offense, they just do a better job at it this year
Maxicat:we don't have Hali
mxbscout:Hali was big in the game last year
LiverpoolLion:Price got a lot of pt at left guard with rich o at g. what's up with that?
PennStatePigskin:It looks like the line slots are etched in stone
Maxicat:motor never stopped
Joypa:We need a pass rusher
Millertime232:ANY RECRUITING NEWS
Maxicat:T.Shaw for Hali
rriva:miller, not a lot recruiting wise, i don't think anything breaking will happen until after the UM game
Joypa:I see our rush and we run right by the QB
Tiapan:i hope we give the ball to hunt alot this saturday
Tiapan:and short passes
trock56:How many kids do you think will be in for the Michigan game
Millertime232:i hope it's within 7 at half
Nittanylfan:the O-Line NEEDS to block
psuthebest:rob why is staff putting cadogan over harrison at guard
Maxicat:we will need fb passes, screens and slants
Millertime232:it was hopeless being down 20 at ND
mxbscout:Tiapan, they have not used Hunt enough in the passing game
rriva:trock, when it's all said and done, at least a dozen
trock56:seems like every kids says he is going to that game
Nittanylfan:I'm hoping we have the ST figured out
rriva:psu, i'm not sure, maybe they think he's better, but i don't see it that way
mxbscout:I'm not sure Harrison is full strength
rriva:i still think, when it's all said and done, despite his limited time, harrison is the No.2 OL behind Brown on the line this year
PennStatePigskin:That's a "read between the lines" comment
Harry8154:If PSU doesn't have a good showing this Saturday, then there is no doubt in my mind that PSU will lose to Michigan.
PennStatePigskin:Price will be exploited bigtime
LiverpoolLion:AQ gets schooled
mrl5043:they should have taylor going hard at shipley this week
Nittanylfan:if PSU loses to Michigan, alot of tickets will free up LOL
rriva:if psu loses to osu, the season will be a disappointment if psu doesn't beat UM, irrespective of what happens in a bowl game
am19psu:with you on that
underscoreTom:yep 9-3 means they won all the easy games, lost all the hard ones
Maxicat:Michigan State will not be easy.
psulions12:right on rivaa
Nittanylfan:most media are predicting an 8-4 season
am19psu:am i the only one that thinks that beating um here will be as tough or even easier than beating wisky at camp randall?
mxbscout:Not sure I would qualify at Wisconsin, easy, either
PennStatePigskin:We'll be very lucky to be 9-3
underscoreTom:this isn't your typical wisky team though
Maxicat:or Minn away, never know
underscoreTom:not that winning at camp randall is easy, but, wisky isn't nearly as good
rriva:i think camp randall will be tough for psu, but wisky is a far cry from where it was last season
Nittanylfan:I guess we're waiting to see if the Twins make the playoffs ??
PennStatePigskin:Neither are we tom.
rriva:agreed, tom...you know what they say about brillianti minds :-)
underscoreTom:twins needs to really tank now to not make the playoffs
Maxicat:Wisky scares me because Joe will play down to them
mxbscout:Anyone ever been at Camp Randall?
mxbscout:It is nuts
mxbscout:in a good way
am19psu:it was the best b10 stadium i've been to
Nittanylfan:oh man.. if we play in late Nov... Mich wouldn't be happy
psuthebest:who is our backup pk. how good is he. any chance we see him saturday if kk misses his 1st try
daCronk:camp randall is sweet...madison in general is sweet
mxbscout:Backup kicker is Wagner from State College
am19psu:jump around between the 3rd and 4th is amazing
Joypa:Madison is sweet
mxbscout:No chance you see Wagner this week unless Kelly is injured
Maxicat:need a big game from Kapinos
daCronk:pitt got their asses handed to them by MSU
BobLichtenfels:Easy Pigskin thats a touchy area
Nittanylfan:I was kinda surprised by Pitt losing by so much
BobLichtenfels:couldn't tell you I was watching six high school games in Ohio
am19psu:michigan state in september? i wasn't
PennStatePigskin:They played against a great "D"
daCronk:msu is good this year...they will beat ND on saturday
BobLichtenfels:Jax is tough, but they have no offense
am19psu:then lose to michigan and mail in the rest of the season
trock56:Bob are you going to push for stupar for AA game
rriva:didn't msu almost lost to wyoming?
Nittanylfan:that wasn't MSU bob
rriva:who did they almost lose to first game of the season
rriva:they had to pull one out i thought
am19psu:idaho 27-17; emu 52-20; pitt 38-23
daCronk:msu struggled a bit against idaho but was up double digits the whole time
rriva:idaho, that was it
HowardStern:Bob - is Mark Wedderburn really 6'7 230ish?
BobLichtenfels:I'd say maybe 6-5
underscoreTom:is Wedderburn any relation?
PennStatePigskin:Why was the kid Gronikowki ? from NY at our place this past week?
BobLichtenfels:Real thin 220 stern
rriva:psp, i left a message for him, i'll try him again tonight
BobLichtenfels:yes its Floyds little brother
PennStatePigskin:As alway Rob is on top.
am19psu:does he project to ol or te?
BobLichtenfels:Gronk mentioned a while back that he would check out Penn State
BobLichtenfels:TE, he'd have to gain 80 pounds to be an OL and he doesn't seem real physical
timo96:Gronk got shut down on Friday night.
BobLichtenfels:Gronk will have a tough go of it at Woody High they rarely throw the ball and hardly ever have a QB that can when they want to
Harry8154:Bob, I heard St. Joes Prep was playing in Cincy - did you see Neil Doogan play? If so, any thoughts?
BobLichtenfels:St. Joes play at Massillon
timo96:Friend of a friend's son (Thomas Keiser) went up against him, that's why I mentioned it.
BobLichtenfels:I watched them play Don Bosco for about a quarter one night on ESPNU
BobLichtenfels:I saw Ryan Mallett, Willy Korn, Justin Trattou, Matt Simms, Eugene Clifford in Cincy
Joypa:Willy Korn-good name
timacheson:Why no hype on Matt Simms for the most part?
BobLichtenfels:He's not real good
underscoreTom:because matt simms isn't that good
mxbscout:Anyone heading out to Columbus for the game?
BobLichtenfels:He does a few things well, but he doesn't hold a candle to most of the guys in this class
timacheson:that explains it!
Nittanylfan:if the game gets ugly, I'm leaving earlier than usual to cover a high school football game
Driver2006:negative scout.......I hate that place
Nittanylfan:we're down by 20
Joypa:If the game gets ugly, I'm yelling at my wife--just like last week.
mendy4psu:when the urine starts flying, nittanylfan is outta there
mxbscout:I'm assuming the Buckeye crowd will be even more jacked than usual considering the factor the crowd was here last year
timo96:why do I have the feeling there's going to be some ugly stories from fans coming out of Columbus?
PennStatePigskin:Just hope that the BlueBand has their slickers with them.
timacheson:Anyone think we may throw a ball across the middle?
BobLichtenfels:I talked about PSU on our high school show so make sure you guys watch FSN Pittsburgh Thursday nights at 7:30
Nittanylfan:you knowe the Buckeyes want pay back
timo96:I'd rather see PSU RUN up the middle.
mxbscout:PSU has to do something to establish some ball control
am19psu:does that mean i have to listen stan savarn?
timo96:yeah, run the ball.
BobLichtenfels:Not sure how much will be on this week, but the next two weeks it should be alot about the PSU and Pitt local recruits
mxbscout:or short passes, tim
timo96:Staaaan, love da show.
timacheson:I agree with the run game, but some short crossing routes.....
BobLichtenfels:Nah, Savran isn't on the high school show
timo96:or short passes.
timo96:I think we can run the ball on this team if we stick with it.
PennStatePigskin:OSU will have 8 in the box until we prove they shouldn't.
mxbscout:PSU also has to use its defensive speed to control Smith as best it can
mendy4psu:Bob, is Marks a better OL or DL?
BobLichtenfels:I think we talked about Ditto, Sukay and Marks
timo96:conservative on offense, the exact opposite on D.
BobLichtenfels:In high school I think DL, but I don't think he's quick enough to play there in college
am19psu:has anyone watched and tosu games this year? i'm being serious when i say the stats show he isn't anywhere near the dual threat he was a year ago
timo96:he hasn't needed to run. no need.
BobLichtenfels:so what's the predictions for Saturday?
LiverpoolLion:happy osu fans
timo96:I still say Troy Smith has trouble reading zones. that's still an issue for him.
timo96:Predictions are bad luck. I don't go there.
mxbscout:Smith has a crazy pass effeciency number -- 177.4, third best in the nation
Nittanylfan:question is, can we contain Ginn like last year ???
BobLichtenfels:I called OSU would win the conference and Michigan would only lose to OSU..I may be dead on
am19psu:that's what i'm getting at... we should have a "drew stanton plan" instead of last year's "troy smith plan"
Nittanylfan:you know, he has something to "prove"
11LinebackerPSU31:YOU ALL MAKE ME SICK
mxbscout:King covered Ginn a good portion off the time last season
timo96:I will say this: he looked mighty good against Texas.
am19psu:no doubt he can hurt you with his legs, but he can kill you with his arm this year
11LinebackerPSU31:IT ISNT EVEN SATURDAY AND YOU'RE LAYING DOWN ALREADY
PennStatePigskin:The other receiver beats you all day.
mxbscout:Gonzalez could be a bigger problem
Nittanylfan:we need to make sure Gonzales is covered !!!
LiverpoolLion:11, just being realistic
11LinebackerPSU31:Penn State 27 Ohio State 17
11LinebackerPSU31:Mistakes go away
Nittanylfan:I hope so LOL
timo96:Yeah, gonzalez is the more "NFL-ready" guy
11LinebackerPSU31:we blitz the hell out of Troy
HowardStern:Saturday will be all about whether we can stop shooting ourselves in the foot
11LinebackerPSU31:The secondary will come together
HowardStern:the defense needs to be more imaginative and aggressive
Nittanylfan:11 - wake up from your dream LOL LOL
LiverpoolLion:and we all hold hands and sing cum bah ya
11LinebackerPSU31:Nittanylfan look at our defensive gameplan against them last year
Harry8154:Satruday is about the quality of the PSU coaching staff - PSU has the talent to win.
psuthebest:if joe lets hall draw up the game plan and stays out of playcalling, i think our o might help make a game of it.
Nittanylfan:I know I know.. we all want PSUI to win
PennStatePigskin:They will run their stable of backs at us too
timo96:D still looks tentative, especially the secondary
trock56:Bob what is the word on maurice williams
11LinebackerPSU31:yes, because Joe only controls the playcalling in the years we aren't 11-1
mxbscout:not if Galen keeps putting Morelli at WR and Williams at QB
BobLichtenfels:I still think its Pitt/PSU, but his coaches feel he'll make a few trips and decide soon
mxbscout:and running Morelli on option on third and short
11LinebackerPSU31:That's a good play mark
mxbscout:which one, 11?
11LinebackerPSU31:We need Derrick taking direct snaps
mxbscout:not with Morelli on the field
timo96:no we don't.
BobLichtenfels:Their setting up that throwback pass to Morelli
11LinebackerPSU31:replace Morelli with Golden
Nittanylfan:replace Morelli was Bell
BobLichtenfels:One time when no one is expecting it
11LinebackerPSU31:does the play really change that much?
mxbscout:yeah, like no one has seen that play before, Bob
trock56:serious question on PITT. What happened to Dickerson. Why is he playing defense. Before I wasbanned at the PITT board they kept saying he was going to be a stud at wr
11LinebackerPSU31:THat WR is so far out of the play it doesn't matter
timo96:I've asked this all week. Is Golden still hurt? I love his blocking ability... springs edge rushing attack
mxbscout:It worked once with Robinson and Mills
BobLichtenfels:But if you deke people for 5-6 games it catches them off guard
mxbscout:I've not heard anything on Golden, tim
Harry8154:Yeah, but I believe it was against Akron.
HowardStern:i thought Dickerson was at TB
mxbscout:that won't catch anyone off guard. opponents are not that stupid
am19psu:i'm with brennan on this one... that play has disaster written all over it
BobLichtenfels:I think they switch him once a week
timo96:Dickerson is a running back right now and will probably 'shirt. he's been banged up all summer and begin of the season.
trock56:I thought they had him at LB
11LinebackerPSU31:Our offense will be fine by October 14th
psuthebest:i thought there was more respect for hall as an o mind then im hearing here
timo96:I stand corrected. he's on Defense now?
BobLichtenfels:I cant see him ever playing defense
mxbscout:psu, Hall is a terrific offensive coach
timo96:Pitt needs to get Elijah the ball a little on offense.
mxbscout:just does some crazy things sometimes
BobLichtenfels:He's playing safety
PennStatePigskin:If he's not interferred with.
BobLichtenfels:No trock I could never imagine that
11LinebackerPSU31:Again Pigskin, do you think Hall was interfered with last year?
PennStatePigskin:WHo wins the ND-MSU game?
trock56:BOB were you behind that happening
11LinebackerPSU31:Or do you think Joe only steps back in the 11-1 seasons?
Tiapan:Sparty has NDs number
BobLichtenfels:trock I'm behind everything, don't you know I was calling the plays for ND when they beat PSU
PennStatePigskin:Whenever I see AM split out as a wr, I know it's not Galen.
11LinebackerPSU31:So Joe said, "Galen, you can have the offense in 05, but I'm taking it back in 06."
Harry8154:If Charlie Weis loses to John L. Smith (?), then his career will be over before it started
timo96:How do you know it isn't Galen? Are you in the booth?
underscoreTom:Joe said the same thing to Bradley
am19psu:interesting stats: line opened nd -4.5... down to nd -3.5... BUT 82% of the action is on nd... a lot of the heavy hitters are on msu
psuthebest:i think robinson had the skills to minimize the effects of bad play calls
mxbscout:what is THE key thing PSU must do to win this week?
am19psu:brennan... score more points?
11LinebackerPSU31:PSU must not turn the ball over
mxbscout:I think special teams are critical
11LinebackerPSU31:PSU must not miss chip shot field goals
psuthebest:key is to control the ball, have long drives
am19psu:in all seriousness, maintain some semblence of balance in TOP... the d was gassed at the end of the 1st half against nd and it showed... we should have gone in at about 7-6 or so
11LinebackerPSU31:reintroduce Ginn's face to the turf numerous times
Cafe210:our D needs to play like they did during last year's OSU game- tough to ask for on the road though
mxbscout:I honestly don't think there is anything to panic about from Penn State's perspective when looking at the season as a whole
mxbscout:everyone expected them to lose a few games
timo96:the key is stopping the run, big plays on special teams, improving the kicking game, and running the ball effectively on 1st down. all easier said than done.
mxbscout:you can see the talent is there. just a matter of getting some experience in tough situations
am19psu:obviously... this isn't 2003
HBonzer:How much did Hall play against YSU? Sorry, no espnu here
timo96:he played a little. so did BranDon.
am19psu:wasn't hall in there for >50% snaps?
mxbscout:Hall did not have a catch but blocked well
am19psu:it seemed like it
HBonzer:do we expect them both to start this week
mxbscout:Hall did play more than a little
LiverpoolLion:hall was open a number of times but AM locked on his primary
timo96:I stand corrected. I watched in a bar and was undoubtedly distracted.
HBonzer:I heard Joe say Jimmie Shaw would play this week - did he play much against YSU and how'd he look?
LiverpoolLion:maybe it's not such a good thing AM hit butler for a TD on his first pass
mxbscout:Did not play much, HB
LiverpoolLion:now he thinks he can do it any time he wants
mxbscout:injured early and went to the locker room
mxbscout:no question he still has to work on checkdowns, Liverpool
HBonzer:who picked up the playing time in his absence?
mxbscout:he has athletes who can make plays
mxbscout:Gaines and Odrick
mxbscout:Evans saw a lot of time behind Tim Shaw, as well
mxbscout:Odrick and Evans both looked good to me
am19psu:i'm not very good at watching line play... how did odrick look?
timo96:I'll say it again. Run the ball, set up play action, those deep balls will be there. gotta freeze those safeties first though.
trock56:Odrik looked OK. Needs to work on his hands
CarolinaDave:Brennan, do you think PSU has any shot with McCoy anymore?
am19psu:i.e. he's young
trock56:yes am. But he will be good. If they leave him there
HBonzer:are odrick and evans 2nd team?
mxbscout:tim, that's a better question for Bob
trock56:evans has a great motor but needs to add sizew
am19psu:absolutely, trock... i didn't mean to sound pessimistic... we still have him for 3 more years... no doubt he will be outstanding at some point in the future... give him the offseason to put on some weight and work on technique
mxbscout:Evans is second team, Odrick second/third
BobLichtenfels:I believe with regards to McCoy that the ball may be in his court, my guess is Pitt/PSU battle
NewYorkNittany:any reason why we don't use a better rotation with the DT's?
mxbscout:NY, I was surprised they did not play one of the true freshmen vs. YSU
NewYorkNittany:hey Bob, you know if St. Anthony's on LI has anyone worth checking out?
alex1968:need to rotate our DL better EJ and Alford or it will get real ugly by the 4th qtr
psuthebest:does rodgers offer any capability to speak of at de. he was very highly regarding coming out of hs.
am19psu:baker saw a lot of snaps
NewYorkNittany:i mean we heard a lot about all these DT's and alford and johnson are gassed yet all we see is roach for few snaps before late in the game
underscoreTom:maybe they're showcasing DT for Marvin Austin
BobLichtenfels:yes SA has a few juniors the QB and the DE Vallone isn't too bad
NewYorkNittany:they should be rotating these guys in right from the get go
NewYorkNittany:SA is playin right up the street from me on sat, and considering that 99% of the HS ball around here is terrible i figured i'd go check it out
HBonzer:any insight into Rogers?
mxbscout:HB, which Rogers?
HBonzer:I too was hopeful he would contribute this year - or at some pt
mxbscout:Not sure he is at the level of Evans
BobLichtenfels:They have a few other kids NY but thiose are the two I remember
underscoreTom:he's about 4th team DE right now
psuthebest:bob what did you think of leseans end zone entrance against bucknell. it certainly was not a way of earning points with our staff
HBonzer:what did he do?
mxbscout:dove into the end zone on a long TD run
HBonzer:that he was penalized
BobLichtenfels:The kid is probably tickled to death just to be playing again
timo96:I think people are over-reacting about that kid.
mxbscout:in what way, timo96?
HBonzer:agree Bob - just want him to learn that before/if he arrives in SC
timo96:He's cocky. So are most 18 year old athletes with ridiculous skillz
LiverpoolLion:did Clark catch any flak about his end zone celebration?
mxbscout:no that I've heard
timo96:he's probably running laps right now... but that doesn't mean the staff wasn't happy to see him score.
NewYorkNittany:lesean gets dissected like alex rodriguez
mxbscout:I was interested to hear Posluszny say today that Suhey is playing Troy Smith on the foriegn team this week
NewYorkNittany:should clark be playing troy again?
mxbscout:from everything we heard, Clark was great in that role last season
BobLichtenfels:LeSean is what he is, he is a kid who goes all out and he enjoys what he's doing
NewYorkNittany:clark is too busy playing clark this year i guess
HBonzer:I assume Clark has to prepare as 2nd team qb
mxbscout:NY, I'm guessing as the second-teamer, they want him to get as much offensive prep as possible
BobLichtenfels:The dynasty sign is cocky, who cares it's football
mxbscout:OK, predictions time. Anyone picking Penn State?
timo96:no, no, no... bad luck!
HBonzer:but, with that said, I would think a quick db would be playing troy this week
11LinebackerPSU31:I PICK THE NITTANY LIONS!!!!
PennStatePigskin:Is that to beat the spread or win outright?
mxbscout:I'm going Penn State 17,
BobLichtenfels:OSU by 3 scores
mxbscout:Ohio State 28
11LinebackerPSU31:TO WIN OUTRIGHT
rednecklion:btw, the safe money is on OSU giving the points.
11LinebackerPSU31:Anthony Morelli has arrived
rednecklion:unlike some, I hope its PSU
NewYorkNittany:any news on potential shuffling of the starting OL?
am19psu:i'm with lichtenfels on the tosu game prediction... and it doesn't bother me one bit.. we ar young
mxbscout:NY, I can't image they'd do that before this kind of game
rednecklion:No, Morelli just hasn't arrived
mendy4psu:OSU 27 PSU 16
NewYorkNittany:so in other words pittcock will eat price for lunch
HBonzer:I'm going to the game (from North Carolina) with one Nit (my brother) and 3 buckeye fans so REALLY hoping for an interesting game in the 4th
BobLichtenfels:Very hostile crowd I would suspect
am19psu:if we had tosu in november, i would tend to change my prediction
rednecklion:bonzer, wear a hardhat.
LiverpoolLion:we might make it interesting for a half, but mistakes will change that
timo96:Pitcock over Price... I don't even want to contemplate that scenerio.