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Inside the Rutgers DL Room with Shane Burnham, Position Coach Breaks It Down with Massive Detail

PISCATAWAY, N.J. -- What goes into position changes? How many defensive linemen will play? How did Kemoko Turay change his approach? Rutgers defensive line coach Shane Burnham has all of the details.

Question: What did you think of Saturday's scrimmage?

Rutgers Defensive Line Coach Shane Burnham: “We didn't give up any points, which was good. There was some production. You guys know me now, I'm never going to go out and think they did a good job. There's so much to work on between little things, pad level, hands, skating on blocks. The mentals, we have to improve as we install. We've got to be able to handle that. We've got to continue to play with better (fundamentals) – pad level, hands, getting off blocks, getting on edges rushing the passer. There were some good things. To say I was pleased, no, but we're making progress.”

Question: What's the biggest difference you've seen in Kemoko Turay other than being healthy?

SB: “Kemoko, having him healthy is a big deal. He's certainly a talented guy and could have a bright future if he wants one. He certainly flashes. Outside of that, I think you'll see some growth. There are some guys like Julius Turner, who if you would have asked me six months ago, did we make a mistake? Is he just a freshman? Really, he's pleased me. He flashed and I like what he's doing. The development of Sebastian (Joseph), I think Sebastian has got a great figure as far as the physique of what you're looking for on the playing side. What we didn't have last year, I think, was great pad level and hands. He's improved. It's fun to watch guys like that get better.”

Question: With Kemoko specifically, is it just him being healthy or is there a sense of urgency?

SB: “It's all of that. A, he's healthy. This time last year he was coming off his second surgery. We didn't have him until the last couple weeks of September. It was the first time I ever saw him practice. To get to work with him this offseason, not that we didn't know he was athletic, but man, he's athletic. To see him full speed, not worried about getting hurt, mentally he's further along with the defense like everybody else, but he's just a really athletic guy. Now that he's healthy and he's more comfortable in the scheme, he's playing faster. When he's playing fast, he's really playing fast.”

Question: What do you like about Solomon Manning and Elorm Lumor at defensive end?

SB: “We're trying to become more athletic. Any time you're in a four-down front like we are most of the time, you see it all the time. You take big linebackers and make them ends. You take big ends and grow them into tackles and take big tackles that can't move and give them to (offensive line coach) AJ (Blazek) like Kamaal (Seymour). That's kind of the way it goes. You move down and closer to the ball to try to become more athletic at the position. I think that's what the goal was for those guys. We need more speed on the edge, and those guys allow us to get some of that out there.”

Question: What have you seen from Jon Bateky?

SB: “I'm really high on Jon. I always have been. I thought he played some really good ball at times last year. Jon just has a natural uncoil of his hips, which allows him to play with heavy hands and get good knockback. He's steady every day. I'm really excited about the next two years with Jon Bateky. This is a guy without the benefit of a red-shirt year if I remember. He came here early, I guess, and played two years ago as a true freshman. I couldn't be more excited.. When you talk about guys making progress, I thought he made it during the season last year even though he didn't play much because he was behind Darius (Hamilton). Now that he's out there playing a lot, I anticipate him to challenge for a starting role. … Right now, he and Kevin Wilkins and Wil Previlon are playing tackle. That's another guy, Wil. You look at him and he's 285 and he keeps getting bigger. As a coach, that's what excites me. When you have a guy like Jon and you think, 'alright he's getting better throughout the season.' He's picked up where he left off. He got better last fall. I think Wil has picked it up, and that's exciting to watch those things play out. Jon Bateky has had a really good spring.”

Question: How much would you like to have an idea of your rotation coming out of spring?

SB: “My guys know that, more than any position, we're going to rotate and roll guys. I wanted to last year. We didn't always. We played JPO (Julian Pinnix-Odrick) and Darius Hamilton probably more than I should have. I rolled the nose position quite a bit with Sebastian. Of course with the injury over there with Quanzell (Lambert) we had to roll the other end spot. I'm really trying to find a pair and a spare at every position. OK, we've got a starting nose, a starting tackle and you hope you have a solid backup and develop, maybe, a fifth guy. That's what I'm looking for.”

Question: How much did it help Darnell Davis Jr. to get playing time last year?

SB: “It helped. Darnell is probably playing out of position, really. He's a tweener, somewhere between an outside linebacker in a 3-4 to a four-down defensive end. He lacks some size. He's 6-2, which I'd like to have him longer. He benefits from it. He made some plays last year in the Indiana game … He's a guy that he shows up every day. He's kind of like that last crew like Quanzel, like JPO and Darius. He's really studying his approach.”

Question: How does early enrollment help Brendan Bordner?

SB: “Oh man, it helps him a lot. Getting in there with coach (Kenny) Parker and getting his butt kicked in the weight room, that's a different workout than these guys are used to. He's already tipping the scales at probably close to 270. He was 245 when we saw him in high school. He's 265, 270 certain days. Physically he's developed. Mentally, learning the playbook, what he hasn't done yet is learn how to play with our speed. That's a big jump for a high-school kid. He's still learning, drinking from a fire hose as far as the physical play. Physically with KP and mentally knowing the playbook gives him a leg up.”

Question: Can Kevin Wilkins take the next step?

SB: “My challenge to Kevin is this. I'll tell anybody, I'll tell Kevin Wilkins. He's got talent to play this game at the next level. I believe that about Kevin. Everything Kevin has got to figure out is between him and him. If Kevin comes out with a steady approach every day and comes with a great work ethic and desire to be great, then the sky is the limit. It's never been about talent with Kevin. He was a talented enough kid to play last year. He's plenty talented to play this year. What Kevin's got to decide, and when he does decide, that 'I'm going to come every day and work like a mad man and get to my potential,' that's between Kevin and Kevin. Will he take the next step? We're finding out every day and we'll see.”


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Question: What did you think of Saturday's scrimmage?

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Rutgers Defensive Line Coach Shane Burnham: “We didn't give up any points, which was good. There was some production. You guys know me now, I'm never going to go out and think they did a good job. There's so much to work on between little things, pad level, hands, skating on blocks. The mentals, we have to improve as we install. We've got to be able to handle that. We've got to continue to play with better (fundamentals) – pad level, hands, getting off blocks, getting on edges rushing the passer. There were some good things. To say I was pleased, no, but we're making progress.”

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Question: What's the biggest difference you've seen in Kemoko Turay other than being healthy?

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SB: “Kemoko, having him healthy is a big deal. He's certainly a talented guy and could have a bright future if he wants one. He certainly flashes. Outside of that, I think you'll see some growth. There are some guys like Julius Turner, who if you would have asked me six months ago, did we make a mistake? Is he just a freshman? Really, he's pleased me. He flashed and I like what he's doing. The development of Sebastian (Joseph), I think Sebastian has got a great figure as far as the physique of what you're looking for on the playing side. What we didn't have last year, I think, was great pad level and hands. He's improved. It's fun to watch guys like that get better.”

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Question: With Kemoko specifically, is it just him being healthy or is there a sense of urgency?

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SB: “It's all of that. A, he's healthy. This time last year he was coming off his second surgery. We didn't have him until the last couple weeks of September. It was the first time I ever saw him practice. To get to work with him this offseason, not that we didn't know he was athletic, but man, he's athletic. To see him full speed, not worried about getting hurt, mentally he's further along with the defense like everybody else, but he's just a really athletic guy. Now that he's healthy and he's more comfortable in the scheme, he's playing faster. When he's playing fast, he's really playing fast.”

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Question: What do you like about Solomon Manning and Elorm Lumor at defensive end?

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SB: “We're trying to become more athletic. Any time you're in a four-down front like we are most of the time, you see it all the time. You take big linebackers and make them ends. You take big ends and grow them into tackles and take big tackles that can't move and give them to (offensive line coach) AJ (Blazek) like Kamaal (Seymour). That's kind of the way it goes. You move down and closer to the ball to try to become more athletic at the position. I think that's what the goal was for those guys. We need more speed on the edge, and those guys allow us to get some of that out there.”

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Question: What have you seen from Jon Bateky?

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SB: “I'm really high on Jon. I always have been. I thought he played some really good ball at times last year. Jon just has a natural uncoil of his hips, which allows him to play with heavy hands and get good knockback. He's steady every day. I'm really excited about the next two years with Jon Bateky. This is a guy without the benefit of a red-shirt year if I remember. He came here early, I guess, and played two years ago as a true freshman. I couldn't be more excited.. When you talk about guys making progress, I thought he made it during the season last year even though he didn't play much because he was behind Darius (Hamilton). Now that he's out there playing a lot, I anticipate him to challenge for a starting role. … Right now, he and Kevin Wilkins and Wil Previlon are playing tackle. That's another guy, Wil. You look at him and he's 285 and he keeps getting bigger. As a coach, that's what excites me. When you have a guy like Jon and you think, 'alright he's getting better throughout the season.' He's picked up where he left off. He got better last fall. I think Wil has picked it up, and that's exciting to watch those things play out. Jon Bateky has had a really good spring.”

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Question: How much would you like to have an idea of your rotation coming out of spring?

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SB: “My guys know that, more than any position, we're going to rotate and roll guys. I wanted to last year. We didn't always. We played JPO (Julian Pinnix-Odrick) and Darius Hamilton probably more than I should have. I rolled the nose position quite a bit with Sebastian. Of course with the injury over there with Quanzell (Lambert) we had to roll the other end spot. I'm really trying to find a pair and a spare at every position. OK, we've got a starting nose, a starting tackle and you hope you have a solid backup and develop, maybe, a fifth guy. That's what I'm looking for.”

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Question: How much did it help Darnell Davis Jr. to get playing time last year?

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SB: “It helped. Darnell is probably playing out of position, really. He's a tweener, somewhere between an outside linebacker in a 3-4 to a four-down defensive end. He lacks some size. He's 6-2, which I'd like to have him longer. He benefits from it. He made some plays last year in the Indiana game … He's a guy that he shows up every day. He's kind of like that last crew like Quanzel, like JPO and Darius. He's really studying his approach.”

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Question: How does early enrollment help Brendan Bordner?

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SB: “Oh man, it helps him a lot. Getting in there with coach (Kenny) Parker and getting his butt kicked in the weight room, that's a different workout than these guys are used to. He's already tipping the scales at probably close to 270. He was 245 when we saw him in high school. He's 265, 270 certain days. Physically he's developed. Mentally, learning the playbook, what he hasn't done yet is learn how to play with our speed. That's a big jump for a high-school kid. He's still learning, drinking from a fire hose as far as the physical play. Physically with KP and mentally knowing the playbook gives him a leg up.”

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Question: Can Kevin Wilkins take the next step?

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SB: “My challenge to Kevin is this. I'll tell anybody, I'll tell Kevin Wilkins. He's got talent to play this game at the next level. I believe that about Kevin. Everything Kevin has got to figure out is between him and him. If Kevin comes out with a steady approach every day and comes with a great work ethic and desire to be great, then the sky is the limit. It's never been about talent with Kevin. He was a talented enough kid to play last year. He's plenty talented to play this year. What Kevin's got to decide, and when he does decide, that 'I'm going to come every day and work like a mad man and get to my potential,' that's between Kevin and Kevin. Will he take the next step? We're finding out every day and we'll see.”

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Question: What did you think of Saturday's scrimmage?

Rutgers Defensive Line Coach Shane Burnham: “We didn't give up any points, which was good. There was some production. You guys know me now, I'm never going to go out and think they did a good job. There's so much to work on between little things, pad level, hands, skating on blocks. The mentals, we have to improve as we install. We've got to be able to handle that. We've got to continue to play with better (fundamentals) – pad level, hands, getting off blocks, getting on edges rushing the passer. There were some good things. To say I was pleased, no, but we're making progress.”

Question: What's the biggest difference you've seen in Kemoko Turay other than being healthy?

SB: “Kemoko, having him healthy is a big deal. He's certainly a talented guy and could have a bright future if he wants one. He certainly flashes. Outside of that, I think you'll see some growth. There are some guys like Julius Turner, who if you would have asked me six months ago, did we make a mistake? Is he just a freshman? Really, he's pleased me. He flashed and I like what he's doing. The development of Sebastian (Joseph), I think Sebastian has got a great figure as far as the physique of what you're looking for on the playing side. What we didn't have last year, I think, was great pad level and hands. He's improved. It's fun to watch guys like that get better.”

Question: With Kemoko specifically, is it just him being healthy or is there a sense of urgency?

SB: “It's all of that. A, he's healthy. This time last year he was coming off his second surgery. We didn't have him until the last couple weeks of September. It was the first time I ever saw him practice. To get to work with him this offseason, not that we didn't know he was athletic, but man, he's athletic. To see him full speed, not worried about getting hurt, mentally he's further along with the defense like everybody else, but he's just a really athletic guy. Now that he's healthy and he's more comfortable in the scheme, he's playing faster. When he's playing fast, he's really playing fast.”

Question: What do you like about Solomon Manning and Elorm Lumor at defensive end?

SB: “We're trying to become more athletic. Any time you're in a four-down front like we are most of the time, you see it all the time. You take big linebackers and make them ends. You take big ends and grow them into tackles and take big tackles that can't move and give them to (offensive line coach) AJ (Blazek) like Kamaal (Seymour). That's kind of the way it goes. You move down and closer to the ball to try to become more athletic at the position. I think that's what the goal was for those guys. We need more speed on the edge, and those guys allow us to get some of that out there.”

Question: What have you seen from Jon Bateky?

SB: “I'm really high on Jon. I always have been. I thought he played some really good ball at times last year. Jon just has a natural uncoil of his hips, which allows him to play with heavy hands and get good knockback. He's steady every day. I'm really excited about the next two years with Jon Bateky. This is a guy without the benefit of a red-shirt year if I remember. He came here early, I guess, and played two years ago as a true freshman. I couldn't be more excited.. When you talk about guys making progress, I thought he made it during the season last year even though he didn't play much because he was behind Darius (Hamilton). Now that he's out there playing a lot, I anticipate him to challenge for a starting role. … Right now, he and Kevin Wilkins and Wil Previlon are playing tackle. That's another guy, Wil. You look at him and he's 285 and he keeps getting bigger. As a coach, that's what excites me. When you have a guy like Jon and you think, 'alright he's getting better throughout the season.' He's picked up where he left off. He got better last fall. I think Wil has picked it up, and that's exciting to watch those things play out. Jon Bateky has had a really good spring.”

Question: How much would you like to have an idea of your rotation coming out of spring?

SB: “My guys know that, more than any position, we're going to rotate and roll guys. I wanted to last year. We didn't always. We played JPO (Julian Pinnix-Odrick) and Darius Hamilton probably more than I should have. I rolled the nose position quite a bit with Sebastian. Of course with the injury over there with Quanzell (Lambert) we had to roll the other end spot. I'm really trying to find a pair and a spare at every position. OK, we've got a starting nose, a starting tackle and you hope you have a solid backup and develop, maybe, a fifth guy. That's what I'm looking for.”

Question: How much did it help Darnell Davis Jr. to get playing time last year?

SB: “It helped. Darnell is probably playing out of position, really. He's a tweener, somewhere between an outside linebacker in a 3-4 to a four-down defensive end. He lacks some size. He's 6-2, which I'd like to have him longer. He benefits from it. He made some plays last year in the Indiana game … He's a guy that he shows up every day. He's kind of like that last crew like Quanzel, like JPO and Darius. He's really studying his approach.”

Question: How does early enrollment help Brendan Bordner?

SB: “Oh man, it helps him a lot. Getting in there with coach (Kenny) Parker and getting his butt kicked in the weight room, that's a different workout than these guys are used to. He's already tipping the scales at probably close to 270. He was 245 when we saw him in high school. He's 265, 270 certain days. Physically he's developed. Mentally, learning the playbook, what he hasn't done yet is learn how to play with our speed. That's a big jump for a high-school kid. He's still learning, drinking from a fire hose as far as the physical play. Physically with KP and mentally knowing the playbook gives him a leg up.”

Question: Can Kevin Wilkins take the next step?

SB: “My challenge to Kevin is this. I'll tell anybody, I'll tell Kevin Wilkins. He's got talent to play this game at the next level. I believe that about Kevin. Everything Kevin has got to figure out is between him and him. If Kevin comes out with a steady approach every day and comes with a great work ethic and desire to be great, then the sky is the limit. It's never been about talent with Kevin. He was a talented enough kid to play last year. He's plenty talented to play this year. What Kevin's got to decide, and when he does decide, that 'I'm going to come every day and work like a mad man and get to my potential,' that's between Kevin and Kevin. Will he take the next step? We're finding out every day and we'll see.”

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