Clardy’s Corner: Treeee-fense!

Offense grabs the headlines in the Pac-12, but it’s the defenses that do most of the dirty work in winning a title. Does this year’s Treefense still have what it takes?



Stanford survived its first road test of the season last week, slipping past Washington in Seattle with a 20-13 result. And in the aftermath, many Cardinal fans took the tried-and-true route of criticizing another frustrating afternoon for the offense.

No doubt there was plenty to bellyache over. QB Kevin Hogan scored what proved to be the game-winning touchdown with 4:29 left in the contest. He also spent the second half throwing a pick and coughing up a critical red-zone fumble. The running game seemed steady enough, but still lacked that dominant gear it has featured over the years. The play-calling in the red zone also seemed to be counterproductive at times.

So while most Stanford fans came away from last weekend’s outcome in Seattle with more questions about the offense, my biggest takeaway came from the other side of the ball. Folks, the Treefense is still alive and well.

And, statistically, it’s better than ever. Well, through five weeks anyway. They’ve allowed only 6.5 points, 74 passing yards, and 198 yards per game. All of those marks lead the country. Against the Huskies, Stanford’s defense looked every bit the part, suffocating a team that had scored 148 points in its previous three games. Save for a couple of facepalming penalties, their day was nearly flawless.

Here’s the real newsflash: the Cardinal were rock-solid on the perimeter. Historically, that’s where you beat Stanford. For decades, if you wanted to cross up the Cardinal defense, you put your fastest player in space on the edge, got him the ball, and forced Stanford to tackle. Not on Saturday. Washington tried to get outside on the Cardinal, and it failed. Repeatedly.

Peter Kalambayi was a big reason why, as he played his tail off against Washington. Five solo tackles. Three sacks, all in big spots. The Huskies had little answer for Kalambayi, who had been establishing himself as an outside playmaker for Stanford’s defense before last Saturday. Now, one of Stanford’s best-kept secrets may be out.

People talk about the quarterbacks and the whiz-bang offenses in the Pac-12, but the team that brings it on defense the most is almost always the team left standing at the end. That’s been how things have worked in the Pac-12, certainly for as long as I’ve been following along.

Stanford hasn’t necessarily lit up the scoreboard, but their defense has lit up opponents more than any other team in the conference. That’s why we spent the last two New Year’s Days watching that defense—and the rest of the Stanford team, too—in the Rose Bowl.

Oregon has been known for high-powered offenses for 20 years. After Chip Kelly came on the scene, the Quack Attack became all the rage and all anyone would talk about. But the years in which Oregon did Rose Bowl-type stuff (and beyond) were the years in which their Gang Green defense showed up in critical moments.

So as I watched the Treefense bottle up the Huskies, I came away feeling assured. Stanford still has a top-flight defense (to this point, anyway), and that can carry them quite a ways in the Pac-12 race. Again.

The most amazing thing about Stanford’s defense so far? They’ve done this largely without forcing turnovers. The Card have just five takeaways to their credit this year. That’s 10th-most in the conference. That’s also one of two reasons why I’m not declaring the 2014 Treefense as a truly great defense yet. (The other reason: it’s only four games! Let’s revisit this after November 1 and the Ducks…)

Such success despite so few turnovers is amazing, but that paucity of turnovers is also one of the few areas where this unit has come up short. And it’s why I can’t say this is a great defense just yet.

After Stanford’s surprising, frustrating, and gag reflex-tickling loss to U$C, I noted in the following Corner that the defense actually shared some of the blame because it failed to force the Trojans to cough up the ball. Actually, they did. On U$C’s first play from scrimmage. Stanford just couldn’t pounce on it.

Some people took issue with me calling out the defense, but the facts are facts. What separates a good, functional defense from a great, feared defense is the takeaway category. There’s nothing wrong with a functional defense. A lot of teams would kill for a functional defense. (California comes to mind. And Arizona. And the Oakland Raiders, too…).

Having a functional defense is nice. But having a feared defense is much, much better. One surefire way to strike fear in an opposing offense is to have a ballhawk defense. And if Stanford wants to be a playoff-caliber team, they’re going to need to have the playoff-caliber defense to match. That means forcing turnovers. Turnovers that can be the difference between staying in the Pac-12 race and winning it.

As it is right now, Stanford’s defense is still a pretty good one. But if they can improve greatly in the turnover department, then they will be a complete unit. Few better times to do that than during a trip to South Bend, with Touchdown Jesus and NBC watching.

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RANDOM PAC-12 THOUGHTS

Tip of the cap to Washington’s punt game for erasing Ty Montgomery from that facet of the contest. More importantly, a big thank you to that same unit for failing to execute on that head-scratching fourth-quarter fake…

For the first time since 2000, I’m not making the roadie to South Bend. (I figured I’d have A’s duties this weekend. We know how that just turned out.) If you’re going, enjoy! If you’ve never been before, be especially sure to take in every bit of the experience of being on that campus and being in that stadium. It’s a special place. Few places in America do game day better than Notre Dame. Have fun…

Washington State’s Connor Halliday is averaging just 7.75 yards per passing attempt. Jared Goff at cal is averaging 10.46 yards per attempt. Which do you think impresses me more?

One thing that doesn’t help cal’s defense: In its last two games, it’s been on the field for 216 snaps. Yes, the Bears are 3-1. But if that trend continues, 3-1 can become 3-9 in a hurry…

Now that was the UCLA I was told to expect right from Day One. A win like that on the road against a dangerous opponent on national TV? Maybe the Bruins might have a little more than I thought…

Boy, it just broke my heart to see Todd Graham crash and burn on national TV like that. That really tore me up inside…

Not a Pac-12 thought, but… I can’t be the only one who feels like there wouldn’t be anywhere near as much outrage over how Michigan handled the Shane Morris situation if the Wolverines were 5-0 right now…

Not a Pac-12 thought, but… so in the SEC you have Tigers (LSU), Tigers (Auburn), and Tigers (Missouri). And you have to go to Columbia (Missouri) or Columbia (South Carolina). Makes a lot of sense, doesn’t it?

Not a Pac-12 thought, but… getting fired before the calendar flips to October? Welcome to the John Mackovic Club, Charlie Weis. Coat check is over there. Lane Kiffin and Paul Pasqualoni will show you around…

Not a Pac-12 thought, but… went down to San Jose State and watched them lose to Nevada last week. The Spartans are going to struggle to have enough players and enough depth, we know that. But despite starting a new quarterback, they looked well-coached and fundamentally sound. Those things can go a long way…

Not a Pac-12 thought, but… no television show better encapsulates first-world problems in a neat, 30-minute package like “House Hunters”…

Not a Pac-12 thought, but… the Kansas City Royals are a fun team to watch. Unless they’re playing your team…

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PAC-12 PICKS

Arizona @ Oregon. The good news for Arizona? They’ve had a bye week to prepare. The not-so-good news for Arizona? So has Oregon. The bad news for Arizona? Their defense can’t tackle. Unless they can call Tedy Bruschi, Rob Waldrop, and Brandon Sanders out of retirement, the Wildcats’ longest winning streak since 1998 ends Thursday. I like Oregon by 24.

Oregon State @ Colorado. A step back for the Beavers last week, but Colorado’s defense will help Oregon State take a step forward. Many, many steps forward, actually. I like Oregon State by 16.

Arizona State @ U$C. The Sun Devils have lot of work to do on defense. Unfortunately for them, the Trojans may teach ASU a lesson or two. I like U$C by 12.

cal @ Washington State. Mike Leach and Connor Halliday must be looking at the tape of cal’s defense and licking their chops. Might take 50 to win this one. I like Washington State by 16.

Utah @ UCLA. The Utes are coming off a tough loss. The Bruins are coming off a big win. The Bruins are also at home. They’re also the better team. Hard for me to go against all of that right now. I like UCLA by 15.

Last week: 3-1 (straight-up), 3-1 (ATS).
This year: 6-1 (straight-up), 4-3 (ATS).
Last year: 35-10 (straight-up), 24-21 (ATS).

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Troy Clardy hosts evenings 7p-11p and Oakland A’s pregame & postgame shows on San Francisco’s 95.7 The Game. The 2014 season marks his 22nd year of following the Cardinal as a columnist, broadcaster, and announcer. In its 13th season of Cardinal commentary, Clardy’s Corner appears Wednesdays during the college football regular season on TheBootleg.com. You can also check him out online at TroyClardy.com, or follow him on Twitter @TroyClardy.






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\r\n\r\nStanford survived its first road test of the season last week, slipping past Washington in Seattle with a 20-13 result. And in the aftermath, many Cardinal fans took the tried-and-true route of criticizing another frustrating afternoon for the offense.\r\n\r\n

No doubt there was plenty to bellyache over. QB Kevin Hogan scored what proved to be the game-winning touchdown with 4:29 left in the contest. He also spent the second half throwing a pick and coughing up a critical red-zone fumble. The running game seemed steady enough, but still lacked that dominant gear it has featured over the years. The play-calling in the red zone also seemed to be counterproductive at times.\r\n\r\n

So while most Stanford fans came away from last weekend’s outcome in Seattle with more questions about the offense, my biggest takeaway came from the other side of the ball. Folks, the Treefense is still alive and well.\r\n\r\n

And, statistically, it’s better than ever. Well, through five weeks anyway. They’ve allowed only 6.5 points, 74 passing yards, and 198 yards per game. All of those marks lead the country. Against the Huskies, Stanford’s defense looked every bit the part, suffocating a team that had scored 148 points in its previous three games. Save for a couple of facepalming penalties, their day was nearly flawless.\r\n\r\n

Here’s the real newsflash: the Cardinal were rock-solid on the perimeter. Historically, that’s where you beat Stanford. For decades, if you wanted to cross up the Cardinal defense, you put your fastest player in space on the edge, got him the ball, and forced Stanford to tackle. Not on Saturday. Washington tried to get outside on the Cardinal, and it failed. Repeatedly.\r\n\r\n

Peter Kalambayi was a big reason why, as he played his tail off against Washington. Five solo tackles. Three sacks, all in big spots. The Huskies had little answer for Kalambayi, who had been establishing himself as an outside playmaker for Stanford’s defense before last Saturday. Now, one of Stanford’s best-kept secrets may be out.\r\n\r\n

People talk about the quarterbacks and the whiz-bang offenses in the Pac-12, but the team that brings it on defense the most is almost always the team left standing at the end. That’s been how things have worked in the Pac-12, certainly for as long as I’ve been following along. \r\n\r\n

Stanford hasn’t necessarily lit up the scoreboard, but their defense has lit up opponents more than any other team in the conference. That’s why we spent the last two New Year’s Days watching that defense—and the rest of the Stanford team, too—in the Rose Bowl.\r\n\r\n

Oregon has been known for high-powered offenses for 20 years. After Chip Kelly came on the scene, the Quack Attack became all the rage and all anyone would talk about. But the years in which Oregon did Rose Bowl-type stuff (and beyond) were the years in which their Gang Green defense showed up in critical moments.\r\n\r\n

So as I watched the Treefense bottle up the Huskies, I came away feeling assured. Stanford still has a top-flight defense (to this point, anyway), and that can carry them quite a ways in the Pac-12 race. Again.\r\n\r\n

The most amazing thing about Stanford’s defense so far? They’ve done this largely without forcing turnovers. The Card have just five takeaways to their credit this year. That’s 10th-most in the conference. That’s also one of two reasons why I’m not declaring the 2014 Treefense as a truly great defense yet. (The other reason: it’s only four games! Let’s revisit this after November 1 and the Ducks…)\r\n\r\n

Such success despite so few turnovers is amazing, but that paucity of turnovers is also one of the few areas where this unit has come up short. And it’s why I can’t say this is a great defense just yet.\r\n\r\n

After Stanford’s surprising, frustrating, and gag reflex-tickling loss to U$C, I noted in the following Corner that the defense actually shared some of the blame because it failed to force the Trojans to cough up the ball. Actually, they did. On U$C’s first play from scrimmage. Stanford just couldn’t pounce on it. \r\n\r\n

Some people took issue with me calling out the defense, but the facts are facts. What separates a good, functional defense from a great, feared defense is the takeaway category. There’s nothing wrong with a functional defense. A lot of teams would kill for a functional defense. (California comes to mind. And Arizona. And the Oakland Raiders, too…). \r\n\r\n

Having a functional defense is nice. But having a feared defense is much, much better. One surefire way to strike fear in an opposing offense is to have a ballhawk defense. And if Stanford wants to be a playoff-caliber team, they’re going to need to have the playoff-caliber defense to match. That means forcing turnovers. Turnovers that can be the difference between staying in the Pac-12 race and winning it.\r\n\r\n

As it is right now, Stanford’s defense is still a pretty good one. But if they can improve greatly in the turnover department, then they will be a complete unit. Few better times to do that than during a trip to South Bend, with Touchdown Jesus and NBC watching.\r\n

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\r\nRANDOM PAC-12 THOUGHTS\r\n

\r\nTip of the cap to Washington’s punt game for erasing Ty Montgomery from that facet of the contest. More importantly, a big thank you to that same unit for failing to execute on that head-scratching fourth-quarter fake…\r\n

\r\nFor the first time since 2000, I’m not making the roadie to South Bend. (I figured I’d have A’s duties this weekend. We know how that just turned out.) If you’re going, enjoy! If you’ve never been before, be especially sure to take in every bit of the experience of being on that campus and being in that stadium. It’s a special place. Few places in America do game day better than Notre Dame. Have fun…\r\n

\r\nWashington State’s Connor Halliday is averaging just 7.75 yards per passing attempt. Jared Goff at cal is averaging 10.46 yards per attempt. Which do you think impresses me more?\r\n

\r\nOne thing that doesn’t help cal’s defense: In its last two games, it’s been on the field for 216 snaps. Yes, the Bears are 3-1. But if that trend continues, 3-1 can become 3-9 in a hurry…\r\n

\r\nNow that was the UCLA I was told to expect right from Day One. A win like that on the road against a dangerous opponent on national TV? Maybe the Bruins might have a little more than I thought…\r\n

\r\nBoy, it just broke my heart to see Todd Graham crash and burn on national TV like that. That really tore me up inside…\r\n

\r\nNot a Pac-12 thought, but… I can’t be the only one who feels like there wouldn’t be anywhere near as much outrage over how Michigan handled the Shane Morris situation if the Wolverines were 5-0 right now…\r\n

\r\nNot a Pac-12 thought, but… so in the SEC you have Tigers (LSU), Tigers (Auburn), and Tigers (Missouri). And you have to go to Columbia (Missouri) or Columbia (South Carolina). Makes a lot of sense, doesn’t it?\r\n

\r\nNot a Pac-12 thought, but… getting fired before the calendar flips to October? Welcome to the John Mackovic Club, Charlie Weis. Coat check is over there. Lane Kiffin and Paul Pasqualoni will show you around…\r\n

\r\nNot a Pac-12 thought, but… went down to San Jose State and watched them lose to Nevada last week. The Spartans are going to struggle to have enough players and enough depth, we know that. But despite starting a new quarterback, they looked well-coached and fundamentally sound. Those things can go a long way…\r\n

\r\nNot a Pac-12 thought, but… no television show better encapsulates first-world problems in a neat, 30-minute package like “House Hunters”…\r\n

\r\nNot a Pac-12 thought, but… the Kansas City Royals are a fun team to watch. Unless they’re playing your team…\r\n

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\r\nPAC-12 PICKS\r\n

\r\nArizona @ Oregon. The good news for Arizona? They’ve had a bye week to prepare. The not-so-good news for Arizona? So has Oregon. The bad news for Arizona? Their defense can’t tackle. Unless they can call Tedy Bruschi, Rob Waldrop, and Brandon Sanders out of retirement, the Wildcats’ longest winning streak since 1998 ends Thursday. I like Oregon by 24.\r\n

\r\nOregon State @ Colorado. A step back for the Beavers last week, but Colorado’s defense will help Oregon State take a step forward. Many, many steps forward, actually. I like Oregon State by 16.\r\n

\r\nArizona State @ U$C. The Sun Devils have lot of work to do on defense. Unfortunately for them, the Trojans may teach ASU a lesson or two. I like U$C by 12.\r\n

\r\ncal @ Washington State. Mike Leach and Connor Halliday must be looking at the tape of cal’s defense and licking their chops. Might take 50 to win this one. I like Washington State by 16.\r\n

\r\nUtah @ UCLA. The Utes are coming off a tough loss. The Bruins are coming off a big win. The Bruins are also at home. They’re also the better team. Hard for me to go against all of that right now. I like UCLA by 15.\r\n

\r\nLast week: 3-1 (straight-up), 3-1 (ATS).\r\n
This year: 6-1 (straight-up), 4-3 (ATS).\r\n
Last year: 35-10 (straight-up), 24-21 (ATS).\r\n

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\r\nTroy Clardy hosts evenings 7p-11p and Oakland A’s pregame & postgame shows on San Francisco’s 95.7 The Game. The 2014 season marks his 22nd year of following the Cardinal as a columnist, broadcaster, and announcer. In its 13th season of Cardinal commentary, Clardy’s Corner appears Wednesdays during the college football regular season on TheBootleg.com. You can also check him out online at TroyClardy.com, or follow him on Twitter @TroyClardy.\r\n


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","mobileBody":" Follow @TheBootleg Stanford survived its first road test of the season last week, slipping past Washington in Seattle with a 20-13 result. And in the aftermath, many Cardinal fans took the tried-and-true route of criticizing another frustrating afternoon for the offense.

No doubt there was plenty to bellyache over. QB Kevin Hogan scored what proved to be the game-winning touchdown with 4:29 left in the contest. He also spent the second half throwing a pick and coughing up a critical red-zone fumble. The running game seemed steady enough, but still lacked that dominant gear it has featured over the years. The play-calling in the red zone also seemed to be counterproductive at times.

So while most Stanford fans came away from last weekend’s outcome in Seattle with more questions about the offense, my biggest takeaway came from the other side of the ball. Folks, the Treefense is still alive and well.

And, statistically, it’s better than ever. Well, through five weeks anyway. They’ve allowed only 6.5 points, 74 passing yards, and 198 yards per game. All of those marks lead the country. Against the Huskies, Stanford’s defense looked every bit the part, suffocating a team that had scored 148 points in its previous three games. Save for a couple of facepalming penalties, their day was nearly flawless.

Here’s the real newsflash: the Cardinal were rock-solid on the perimeter. Historically, that’s where you beat Stanford. For decades, if you wanted to cross up the Cardinal defense, you put your fastest player in space on the edge, got him the ball, and forced Stanford to tackle. Not on Saturday. Washington tried to get outside on the Cardinal, and it failed. Repeatedly.

Peter Kalambayi was a big reason why, as he played his tail off against Washington. Five solo tackles. Three sacks, all in big spots. The Huskies had little answer for Kalambayi, who had been establishing himself as an outside playmaker for Stanford’s defense before last Saturday. Now, one of Stanford’s best-kept secrets may be out.

People talk about the quarterbacks and the whiz-bang offenses in the Pac-12, but the team that brings it on defense the most is almost always the team left standing at the end. That’s been how things have worked in the Pac-12, certainly for as long as I’ve been following along.

Stanford hasn’t necessarily lit up the scoreboard, but their defense has lit up opponents more than any other team in the conference. That’s why we spent the last two New Year’s Days watching that defense—and the rest of the Stanford team, too—in the Rose Bowl.

Oregon has been known for high-powered offenses for 20 years. After Chip Kelly came on the scene, the Quack Attack became all the rage and all anyone would talk about. But the years in which Oregon did Rose Bowl-type stuff (and beyond) were the years in which their Gang Green defense showed up in critical moments.

So as I watched the Treefense bottle up the Huskies, I came away feeling assured. Stanford still has a top-flight defense (to this point, anyway), and that can carry them quite a ways in the Pac-12 race. Again.

The most amazing thing about Stanford’s defense so far? They’ve done this largely without forcing turnovers. The Card have just five takeaways to their credit this year. That’s 10th-most in the conference. That’s also one of two reasons why I’m not declaring the 2014 Treefense as a truly great defense yet. (The other reason: it’s only four games! Let’s revisit this after November 1 and the Ducks…)

Such success despite so few turnovers is amazing, but that paucity of turnovers is also one of the few areas where this unit has come up short. And it’s why I can’t say this is a great defense just yet.

After Stanford’s surprising, frustrating, and gag reflex-tickling loss to U$C, I noted in the following Corner that the defense actually shared some of the blame because it failed to force the Trojans to cough up the ball. Actually, they did. On U$C’s first play from scrimmage. Stanford just couldn’t pounce on it.

Some people took issue with me calling out the defense, but the facts are facts. What separates a good, functional defense from a great, feared defense is the takeaway category. There’s nothing wrong with a functional defense. A lot of teams would kill for a functional defense. (California comes to mind. And Arizona. And the Oakland Raiders, too…).

Having a functional defense is nice. But having a feared defense is much, much better. One surefire way to strike fear in an opposing offense is to have a ballhawk defense. And if Stanford wants to be a playoff-caliber team, they’re going to need to have the playoff-caliber defense to match. That means forcing turnovers. Turnovers that can be the difference between staying in the Pac-12 race and winning it.

As it is right now, Stanford’s defense is still a pretty good one. But if they can improve greatly in the turnover department, then they will be a complete unit. Few better times to do that than during a trip to South Bend, with Touchdown Jesus and NBC watching.

********** ********** **********

Tip of the cap to Washington’s punt game for erasing Ty Montgomery from that facet of the contest. More importantly, a big thank you to that same unit for failing to execute on that head-scratching fourth-quarter fake…

For the first time since 2000, I’m not making the roadie to South Bend. (I figured I’d have A’s duties this weekend. We know how that just turned out.) If you’re going, enjoy! If you’ve never been before, be especially sure to take in every bit of the experience of being on that campus and being in that stadium. It’s a special place. Few places in America do game day better than Notre Dame. Have fun…

Washington State’s Connor Halliday is averaging just 7.75 yards per passing attempt. Jared Goff at cal is averaging 10.46 yards per attempt. Which do you think impresses me more?

One thing that doesn’t help cal’s defense: In its last two games, it’s been on the field for 216 snaps. Yes, the Bears are 3-1. But if that trend continues, 3-1 can become 3-9 in a hurry…

Now was the UCLA I was told to expect right from Day One. A win like that on the road against a dangerous opponent on national TV? Maybe the Bruins might have a little more than I thought…

Boy, it just broke my heart to see Todd Graham crash and burn on national TV like that. That really tore me up inside…

I can’t be the only one who feels like there wouldn’t be anywhere near as much outrage over how Michigan handled the Shane Morris situation if the Wolverines were 5-0 right now…

so in the SEC you have Tigers (LSU), Tigers (Auburn), and Tigers (Missouri). And you have to go to Columbia (Missouri) or Columbia (South Carolina). Makes a lot of sense, doesn’t it?

getting fired before the calendar flips to October? Welcome to the John Mackovic Club, Charlie Weis. Coat check is over there. Lane Kiffin and Paul Pasqualoni will show you around…

went down to San Jose State and watched them lose to Nevada last week. The Spartans are going to struggle to have enough players and enough depth, we know that. But despite starting a new quarterback, they looked well-coached and fundamentally sound. Those things can go a long way…

no television show better encapsulates first-world problems in a neat, 30-minute package like “House Hunters”…

the Kansas City Royals are a fun team to watch. Unless they’re playing your team…

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The good news for Arizona? They’ve had a bye week to prepare. The not-so-good news for Arizona? So has Oregon. The bad news for Arizona? Their defense can’t tackle. Unless they can call Tedy Bruschi, Rob Waldrop, and Brandon Sanders out of retirement, the Wildcats’ longest winning streak since 1998 ends Thursday.

A step back for the Beavers last week, but Colorado’s defense will help Oregon State take a step forward. Many, many steps forward, actually.

The Sun Devils have lot of work to do on defense. Unfortunately for them, the Trojans may teach ASU a lesson or two.

Mike Leach and Connor Halliday must be looking at the tape of cal’s defense and licking their chops. Might take 50 to win this one.

The Utes are coming off a tough loss. The Bruins are coming off a big win. The Bruins are also at home. They’re also the better team. Hard for me to go against all of that right now.

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