JefferyStewart:: UT didn't have much luck with Lee Wheeler from AZ but Terry Fair was great
raiderdj:: and this kid Uriah Marshall is a
JefferyStewart:: I'll check on Miller and see what I can
raiderdj:: 4.4 speed, etc
JefferyStewart:: I know a lot of people
love marshall but i haven't seen film on him
raiderdj:: and then kid
Allen Smith... 310lbs as a SR OL this year... kid is a
JefferyStewart:: There's good JC talent out there
cant get over how big these kids are now
raiderdj:: hi ya
JefferyStewart:: Nick ready to take one last trip
down the information highway
raiderdj:: sorry nick, we didnt mean to
interrupt your NCAA 2004 game
raiderdj:: but those
controllers do need a break once in awhile
NickGrinnell:: us and Georgia...
14-7 lead... sat night ESPN game
JefferyStewart:: which game on UT's schedule would you most like
to see Vols win this season
raiderdj:: as far as rival, id think
JefferyStewart:: I never tire of beating bama but I would love to see UT
take a bite out of the dawgs
NickGrinnell:: GA ranks a close second...
esp since I cant seem to contain Fred Gibson
raiderdj:: yep, thats my #2,
Georgia is going to be a handful this year
ValleyVols:: Hey guys! Just logged
NickGrinnell:: whats up man
JefferyStewart:: talk to us
ValleyVols:: Not a lot, can't wait to see pigskins flying in the
raiderdj:: hi ya VV
NickGrinnell:: VV whats thisw i here about Brohm
all of the sudden getting interested in us again
JefferyStewart:: it's so
close you can begin to smell it in the air
ValleyVols:: I am not
ready to believ anything Brohm says right now. I believe he will dragged his
decision to the end.
raiderdj:: yep, Brohm is definitely playing all the
NickGrinnell:: he better do it by Xmas or the decision will
be made for him
JefferyStewart:: I'm not sure Brohm is the best fit for
ValleyVols:: Oops. Typos. Sorry.
raiderdj:: but can you really
see him not playing for his brother?
raiderdj:: where they'll design the
system right to his strengths?
ValleyVols:: I agree with both of you Nick and
JefferyStewart:: I never saw him as a Vol
NickGrinnell:: im like
Jeff, Patton would be a nice fit in the system
ValleyVols:: If Michael Bush
does what I believe he can, L-ville may not need a QB for a couple of
raiderdj:: good point VV
JefferyStewart:: Yeah Bush may do well there
JefferyStewart:: I don't think he plays pro as a Qb
ValleyVols:: Patton seems to have the makings of a great college QB. I
met him at the UT senior day camp and he is a first class kid as well.
JefferyStewart:: yeah he's a real humble kid who has done
remarkably well in two years at QB
ValleyVols:: Nick or Jeff, has the new RTN mailed?
NickGrinnell:: you should be getting it in the next day or
JefferyStewart:: I got mine today
NickGrinnell:: aint she a beaut
ValleyVols:: Funny thing, I never have received a RTN. I thought it came
with the subscription to the site.
NickGrinnell:: hey it came with the 99.95
not the 79.95
NickGrinnell:: didnt you get the
ValleyVols:: I'll pick one
up at a bookstore soon
NickGrinnell:: J why did I have to creat Cody on NCAA
NickGrinnell:: thats crap... he is on the cusp of the first team
raiderdj:: so were a week closer to the season, things becoming any
BiggJ:: I don't know, He's not too thrilled about it
NickGrinnell:: i would be pi.... ticked if i were him
Good question, there are a few guys I wondered why they were left off the
NickGrinnell:: next to being an
all-american, its the top honor
ValleyVols:: No joke!
NickGrinnell:: am i
the only one with Meach as their top receiver... please say no
yeah, you know some of these kids have to sit up at night and play their own
player on the PS2 or XBox, etc hehe, that has to be a kick
BiggJ:: Yeah he
had fun last year putting himself in the starting rotation and this year he's
not even on the roster
lajvol:: BiggJ, looks like I'm a little late, you guys
are already talking about it, but what did you guys do to EA to keep Cody off
ValleyVols:: I like to keep my games as close to simulation as
possible, so M. Jones is my #1 right now.
NickGrinnell:: maybe it will be
another form of motivation
BiggJ:: I don't know but
he'll just have to make all SEC this year to make sure he's on the game next
ValleyVols:: Seriously, one of those WR have to step up. Playing
time is there to be had.
ValleyVols:: The Frosh I mean
There's not reason a great freshman can't contribute early at WR but UT's
system does make it more difficult
JefferyStewart:: Clayton at LSU is a good
raiderdj:: hard to say how many passes Banks will get at WR this year
too... if he's part of the third down package, or just a few times a game,
ValleyVols:: Explain J-Stew
NickGrinnell:: Reggie and Mike Williams
are fair examples as well
BiggJ:: My guess would be Meach but I would rather
an upperclassmen step up so the frosh can redshirt
NickGrinnell:: wouldnt we
NickGrinnell:: J has Cody gotten to know any of the frosh more than just
in the football complex... just hang out, etc
JefferyStewart:: Receivers play
a game outside the scope of the interior line and essentially they run the
same routes and execute the same in terms of fundamentals; At UT WRs have
to make a lot of reads and route adjustments though
BiggJ:: He went to Nash with them a couple of weeks ago and said they
all seem to be a pretty good bunch of fellas
mbevolsteve:: I've read that
Meach and Swaim have looked great in the 7 on 7 drills along with Tony Brown.
They said Brown is catching everything that comes his way.
ValleyVols:: True. But, I believe if you can make plays, Phil will
find a way to get your touches.
NickGrinnell:: Tony has always had good
hands, he just cant take one the distance
AAAWWWW V12 is in the house
Vol12:: Howdy guys!
NickGrinnell:: how r
raiderdj:: he V12
cnyvol:: hello all
mbevolsteve:: Hey guys hows it going?
NickGrinnell:: hello to you
ValleyVols:: Nick, if you were asking me about Cody I don't
BiggJ:: All we need is Tony to be a possesion receiver and that will
draw attention for Jones, wade, banks or somebody to get deep
Hey Nick whats the good word for me here in Syracuse?
NickGrinnell:: Sorry i
meant that for Bigg J, got confusing
NickGrinnell:: Hhmmm CNY.... football is
39 days away
NickGrinnell:: good enough
Vol12:: BiggJ, y'all coming in for
the Fresno game?
BiggJ:: Yeah we'll be driving in Friday morning
anything new on the recruiting front
NickGrinnell:: slow right
NickGrinnell:: i am thinking we will have another or two before we
JefferyStewart:: no one ready to pop that I know of but that
can change depending on who they decide to offer
cnyvol:: I was at a camp
here in Syracuse a few weeks ago and got a chance to see Henne close up...he's a
Vol12:: Great, maybe I'll see y'all at the walkthru Friday
ValleyVols:: Here is a little inside recruiting news, Marshall has
very much jumped into the picture for QB Corey Russell.
BiggJ:: Yeah, we're
planning on making that
cnyvol:: unfortunately from how he described things
its between Miami and Penn State
mbevolsteve:: I heard Henne had said he is
no longer interested in the Vols
JefferyStewart:: that would be a good pick
up for the Herd he's going to be a solid DI QB in my opinion
wish we could get the DT from Carolina
NickGrinnell:: Marshall would be a
great place for Corey
Vol12:: A little news from the 7 on 7 informal
workouts. Meacham is impressing our DB's
cnyvol:: thats good
NickGrinnell:: every player seems to really be impressed with
JefferyStewart:: As dangerous as Meach is as a deep threat he's even
better with ball in hand
ValleyVols:: Corey worked out with Chad Pennington a
few days ago after Chad's QB/WR camp. Marshall's Off. Coordinator was there
working the camp. We will see what happens.
cnyvol:: hows the backup
quarterback situation fairing?
Vol12:: I talked with Brandon Johnson and A.
Stewart this weekend. Both spoke well of his ability
mbevolsteve:: Anybody heard the deal on Riggs? Is he going to be in
NickGrinnell:: i think he is gonna be good to
JefferyStewart:: If Riggs gets in it's the greatest academic comeback in
NCAA history I hope it's a sign of things to come from Riggs
definitely a good sign
NickGrinnell:: 24 out of 24
mbevolsteve:: You are right about that JS.
talking about 24 credit hours in threemoths from a guy who struggled every inch
of high school
ValleyVols:: Good point J-Stew.
Sr. must have had to ride his butt all the way
mbevolsteve:: I just
hope it is all straight up.
BiggJ:: All he needs or needed to do is mature a
Vol12:: Judy Jackson won't have it any other way than straight.
JefferyStewart:: yeah he's actually very articulate
NickGrinnell:: i can
promise it was straight up
NickGrinnell:: we arent
ValleyVols:: With Ced, Jabari, and Larkins this year is a red shirt a
possibility for Riggs?
mbevolsteve:: I like that.
Lokidog:: must have seen
his future going down the drain
JefferyStewart:: I don't think he'll be here
four years so I'd say no
BiggJ:: Once he got to campus and had to prove
himself rather than everyone filling his head with how good he was, it was just
a matter of growing up
mbevolsteve:: Yea Nick you are right about that.
latest story on Weyman should hit Knoxnews tomorrow... Griff had an interview
with him today.
ValleyVols:: Know anything raider?
I wish I as optimistic about Weyman as some of you guys
cnyvol:: how is
Weyman doing btw
BiggJ:: It would be nice if he was to turn out to be
ValleyVols:: Gotta go guys! Be good.
mbevolsteve:: I have just
lived in AlAbAmA to long. And all the news talk radio and
DrBubba1One:: can ANY of the freshmen WR REALLY help this year or
not based upon what you have seen???
think Meach will
NickGrinnell:: he has impressed me during 7 on
JefferyStewart:: Swain and Meachem will be in rotation and two
of top three by season's end in my opinion
DrBubba1One:: what impressed you?
Swwain plus or minuses??
mbevolsteve:: Nick how much have you been watching
the 7 on 7's ?
NickGrinnell:: Swain can get up and catch the ball... his
speed isnt on Meach's level just yet
NickGrinnell:: just a couple
NickGrinnell:: when I can coordinate to get out of the
mbevolsteve:: Did Clausen look heathly?
JefferyStewart:: Swain has
ex ceptionally strong hands good leaping ability and is
NickGrinnell:: i think CC looks better than ever
How are the OL workouts?
NickGrinnell:: i have only seen the OL twice and
Respert isnt 100% yet but he told me he should be by Fresno
Thats great to hear.
DrBubba1One:: Who ae your starting 5 right NOW? Who
mbevolsteve:: i'm speacking of CC Nick.
Respert was one of the best guard prospects I've ever seen coming out of high
JefferyStewart:: if he reaches potential he could still be
NickGrinnell:: Munoz, Respert, Wells, Herrera, Young
CC has looked great from all ive heard
mbevolsteve:: How's Tinsley looking in
the 7 on 7's.
tennman68:: What about Cody?
NickGrinnell:: DT always looks
great when you are working out of pads
Vol12:: Tinsley is looking good I
DrBubba1One:: Where is Douglas and Smith in the
JefferyStewart:: I like Herrera at tackle and Smith at
NickGrinnell:: A very, very, very close 1A
mbevolsteve:: How about
Larkins? I heard he was doing well.
NickGrinnell:: Chavis is still wearing 3 braces on each
BiggJ:: Herrera didn't impress me much in his
short periods at tackle last year
Vol12:: Larkins is a great athlete.
If his attitude ever matches his ability he will be
JefferyStewart:: I think he starts early with Douglas
eventually taking ove r
mbevolsteve:: Thanks Vol12
thats what i am thinking
DrBubba1One:: Any Redshirt OL looking good? I am
looking for depth in OL
NickGrinnell:: if Corey's attitude is ever half his
ability, he will be an A
Brandon Jefferies will come on and push for PT
mbevolsteve:: Who's is going
to be the TE?
JefferyStewart:: Aaron Searswill make an early
JefferyStewart:: McClure at tight end
Vol12:: Jeffery, that's the
most optimistic I've heard anyone be about jefferies
most of the time with splashes of Reed and Finlayson
BiggJ:: I heard Sears
looks like the incredible hulk
JefferyStewart:: Really He's got to get a
little bigger but his ability is outstanding
DrBubba1One:: I am looking down
the road to next year for OL? Who could that be based upon developemnt this
BiggJ:: Jeffries will be good in two
JefferyStewart:: Eric Young Sears Jeffries Douglas and Smith all have
Vol12:: I agree, BiggJ, I don't think he'll be a factor
DrBubba1One:: Center position has me concerned
pushing Rob Smith to play at center
NickGrinnell:: not sure Rob is down with
BiggJ:: Next year center will be either R. Smith or
NickGrinnell:: CPF loves him there though
mbevolsteve:: How about
Ritzman, Burnett, Simon How are they all doing? Will they all be ready to go by
Vol12:: Rob seems to be warming up to it
all those will be ready
NickGrinnell:: Ritz may be a little slow, but he will
mbevolsteve:: Tks Nick
DrBubba1One:: Any guys leaving befoer the
Vol12:: I talked to Justin Harrell
Saturday too, he says his ankle still is a little stiff but he's been cleared
for 100% participation in running and conditioning
no way of knowing until they begin contact
tennman68:: What happens if CC
gets hurt? Who's #2 in the rotation? Is Banks a QB or a WR
DrBubba1One:: What do you hear on Herra graduating at the end of Summer
BiggJ:: We better all pray
JefferyStewart:: Banks is first to
play if CC goes down
tennman68:: how much work is he going to get behind the
JefferyStewart:: OL can help ensure CC's health this season that
didn't happen last year
JefferyStewart:: Banks will probably split his
reps between QB and WR like last year there's no other viable option at
raiderdj:: Id think if Weyman ends up making the team he'd be #3,
and redshirted... so an emergency guy only
Vol12:: Probably right raider. I
think Weyman's too green to play this year, no matter how talented he
NickGrinnell:: Weyman and Hardegree will have a leg up next
JefferyStewart:: If Vols get hit with injury at QB like they did in 94
it will make last year seem like a picnic
BiggJ:: How is Hardegree
looking in the drills, I have not heard anything on hum. I actually forgot
tennman68:: Is the coaching staff going to give
Weyman a real shot
NickGrinnell:: Bo looks okay
Tennman, I think they will, but it won't be til spring
mbevolsteve:: That would be very ugly JeffS.
Yeah and there's no Peyton Manning waiting in the wings
even a chris leak
NickGrinnell:: thank goodnes
tennman68:: What happens if we sign two top prospects at QB? does he
still get that chance?
Vol12:: I think so.
JefferyStewart:: I understand
no school offered Weyman a scholarship at least DI school
BiggJ:: we wont
sign two top QB's -- One top and one of the kids from in state who could be
JefferyStewart:: I agree Bigg J
bees4ut:: whats up guys my
first time in the chat room i'm ready for soom football!!!
tennman68:: who do
you think that will be?
mbevolsteve:: Is the Wolke kid that
JefferyStewart:: It's always football time in Tennessee at
JefferyStewart:: I like Wolke a lot and think he's probably a
top 10 QB nationally
mbevolsteve:: Who else do you think besides
BiggJ:: Maybe Patton
JefferyStewart:: in state I know they'll look
at Heffner and Russell
raiderdj:: Actually JStew i heard Weyman
turned down UConn his Jr year and then there is a La Tech offer out there
JefferyStewart:: but they like to sign Wolke and Patton or
another top 5 QB
NickGrinnell:: i agree
tennman68:: Can we Brohm is he a
lock for Louisville?
JefferyStewart:: I don't see Brohm at UT
depends on what happens in Louisville this year
JefferyStewart:: It's be
Brohm to bush in 2004
tennman68:: 47 TD's 1 Int. Thats
mbevolsteve:: I think that would be an awesome pair. I would take
those 2 today without looking any futher wouldn't you JeffS?
about Brohm to Banks in 2004
JefferyStewart:: Bush could have honestly played
five positions at college level
JefferyStewart:: You never know but I doubt
JefferyStewart:: I believe there's at least four QBs vols would
rather have at QB
mbevolsteve:: Rate them JeffS
raiderdj:: is there another problem at UT we aren't seeing? What
makes you think guys like Wolke, Patton and another top five would sign when no
top QBs signed last year when the backup spot already looked wide
bees4ut:: i think the leak situation hurt us last year
Hey Jeff come on now. Who do you think?
tennman68:: What about Chad
BiggJ:: I we are due for one. We just got Banks who was a top 5
the year before
JefferyStewart:: Morelli, Henne, Reid Patton and Weatherford
maybe Xavier Lee also
raiderdj:: Well i hope being "due" isnt the sales pitch
Randy is using
mbevolsteve:: Thanks Jeff
BiggJ:: I hope
JefferyStewart:: there's also a kid in California they like
who I can't remember
BiggJ:: what about the kid from
JefferyStewart:: Timing is everything when recruiting a QB but UT is
one of the best jobs in the country and it should sell to a top QB
i guess thats my question, is it still seen as one of the best jobs in the
JefferyStewart:: Robert Reid is the guy from Texas
I agree with that JS.
BiggJ:: sure it is
raiderdj:: we know it has the
potential to be... i just wonder what made things turn so badly last year for QB
JefferyStewart:: Sure it is because of the level of pro talent UT
produces and the big time atmosphere of the program
mbevolsteve:: I thought
Bomar was the big man in TX?
BiggJ:: Bomar is who I was talking
Vol12:: raider, Leak told everyone he was coming and ran everyone else
off, then things went sour and it was too late to get back in
hope its as simple as that Vol12
JefferyStewart:: there are several
from Texas Reid intrigues because of his 4.4 speed and 6-3 215
BiggJ:: Why would this not be an ideal spot for a QB. We have
almost nothing but AA's on the O-line, AA's as WR and AA's at RB and kthat is
for the next three years
bees4ut:: i think it was the same situation as sims
a few years ago
JefferyStewart:: timing is everything with getting the QB you
want the most and if you focus on one and lose him it's too late to get back in
on others a lot of times
Rompun:: Hi guys, I've joined late in
JefferyStewart:: That happened with Sims and with
Leak for UT
JefferyStewart:: Let me pose this
JefferyStewart:: question again who do you most want to beat this
bees4ut:: i don't think we can aford to make one guy the man and lose
out on some others this year
tennman68:: all of the above
UT is making every effor not to do that this seasson bees4ut
I pick UGA followed by Bama
bees4ut:: i hope your right
it shouldnt be done any season... focusing on one guy just doesnt make any
raiderdj:: its not like any of the top kids are gurantees to make a big
impact, muchless be "the man"
JefferyStewart:: Yeah but Vols are in a
desperate situation at QB next season
bees4ut:: you would
have thought they would have learned a lesson after sims
Florida, Auburn, UGA, Bama, and Miami --all of them in that order
JefferyStewart:: thanks BiggJ
tennman68:: You don't need to be nationally
ranked to be a good QB
mbevolsteve:: Gotta go guys have a great week and GO
NickGrinnell:: see ya Steve
raiderdj:: going after these kids that every other big school is looking
at just makes no sense... its just a roll of the dice, thats not recruting,
thats just plain gambling
JefferyStewart:: You're right but the scouting
proces and combines have eliminated a lot of doubts that used to exist about QB
tennman68:: If you don't go to the camps you won't get
BiggJ:: Well guys I gotta go let a three year old ride her bike before
it gets too dark, see ya next week
Rompun:: Does anyone remember Hal Mumme
commenting on our "lack of wide receivers " a few years ago? I think that
hasn't helped our QB situation lately.
NickGrinnell:: see ya
JefferyStewart:: Most of these prospects know the importance of making the
combines and most do but you still miss great QBs sometimes witness Chad
raiderdj:: too many big schools rely on the "look at
me" factor and rely purely on reputation of the school...
tennman68:: And maybe Brett Weyman
raiderdj:: you see a lot of
the same in baseballl... and rankings, etc... Baseball Weekly had the
Diamondbacks with the last rated farm system... not one player in the top
JefferyStewart:: another good example a marginal prospe ct out of
raiderdj:: and this year they had literally five players come up and
carry the team during a serious stretch of bad injuries... now all of a sudden
they have a top farm system
JefferyStewart:: Don Mattingly was a 17th round
pick in the MLB draft
tennman68:: Baseball is a different
raiderdj:: i guess my point is if more schools did their homework, and
found kids they knew were more than likely to come to their school, rather than
compete for the 10-15 top kids, yould be deeper and more successful
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