toner 1:: Really nice to see Alex back out there
GarryP:: It was great to see Alex out there. I thought he looked great blocking.
mghinc:: Yes I cant wait to see him play in person
mghinc:: yes he can block but running is something else
GarryP:: You would have been happy to see that Mike. He was crushing guys.
mghinc:: Yes i heard but he paid for it
toner 1:: Good thing SC has a bye week.
GarryP:: My guess is we will start to see a lot more. That was a pretty tough environment for someone who had only played a new position for a week. Fred has all the tools Norm wants in a tight end and he'll get a lot of work with the bye week right now.
mghinc:: yes keep in mind that game was 1 wk early
mghinc:: Alex told me Fred is going to be great
Scott4USC:: Hi Mr. Holmes, how are you?
mghinc:: Fine Thank u how r u
Scott4USC:: good thanks
SC2Win:: Hey mghinc! Was Alex the state Latin champion (or something to that effect) in high school.?
mghinc:: No he just placed in the top 1% 3 yrs in a row
toner 1:: Garry, how close is Goodrum to being able to practice?
GarryP:: He practiced yesterday
toner 1:: That's good. Will he be able to play(Goodrum) against CSU if needed?
GarryP:: I don't know on Goodrum. We'll probably have to wait and see how he does in the coming practices because he's been out a long time.
GarryP:: I was really impressed with Schweigers ability to rush the passer. His sack was pretty critical because we hadn't put a lot of pressure on Randall to that point.
toner 1:: Love Schweiger's speed
paulmcc:: Garry: this is Paul in Vegas. Thanks for coming on tonite. How many of our East Coast recruits made it to the game that you know of?
GarryP:: Paul - I havent been able to reach Derrick Williams yet to find out if he went or not. I love the fact that we stayed at the closest hotel to his high school, our coaching staff never misses a beat in recruiting. I havent heard of any other recruits who might have been there. I did talk to Patrick Turner and he watched the whole game and was fired up about the SC offense. He says he will definitely take a trip.
Scott4USC:: Garry, who's he?
GarryP:: Patrick Turner is a WR from
toner 1:: Glad to here Turner will visit. I think we need 2-3 WR's in this class, depending if we get Lewis and Jones back
MJDUSC:: garry: where in TN
MJDUSC:: is he the 6'4 kid from north of
toner 1:: Yes, and isn't Turner about 6'3-6'4?
wstripes:: Turner is the next TO
MJDUSC:: he'll be hard to get to CA
MJDUSC:: that is not far from here and UT will be hard to beat as will the SEC Schools
GarryP:: We've made him a priority and he seems pretty interested. I talked to him about an hour ago and he was fired up about what he saw on Saturday. He loved the way we play freshmen, he mentioned Jarrett several times.
wstripes:: I think we have a great shot with Turner...He's our top O recruit
toner 1:: If he's willing to leave the state we have a chance
MJDUSC:: sounds good
Fanatic99:: Who does Turner remind people of ?
wstripes:: Terrel Owens
trojaneddy:: is turner the top wr in the nation? or rouse,
GarryP:: Turner is in the elite group, it's hard to say anyone of them is better than the other. Turner, D Williams, Desean Jackson and Rouse are all pretty good.
MJDUSC:: amazing how the ncaa keeps the most needy students out of class, what a crock of bull
toner 1:: MJD, totally agree
MJDUSC:: either say yes or no, but do something other than make kids miss class
MJDUSC:: these guys need to get their collective asses kicked
Scott4USC:: MJD, I agree
methomps:: MJD, do that and you'll break your foot on their wallet
toner 1:: what can be the holdup? They have already missed a week and a half of classes. That wouldn't have helped me
MJDUSC:: I broke it once already, one more time could not be that bad
mghinc:: The NCAA should go the way of Welfare
MJDUSC:: so , any guesses as to whether SC opens up the offense in the next week
GarryP:: Michael - I do think we will start to see the offense open up more. We saw how much things improved in the 2nd half when we threw the ball downfield more. We didn't do that much in the first half partly due to the young receivers. JJ pointed out some poor splits a couple times and the plays resulted in Leinart incompletions because the timing was thrown off. These things will get better as we go along
MJDUSC:: Garry: I agree
MJDUSC:: anyone else think that Travis Watkins looked pretty darn good at left guard
MJDUSC:: that guy can move his legs pretty well
mghinc:: I think Travis is our most motivated lineman and will do all in his power to play well
Scott4USC:: I think the guy who screwed us the most this season was Justice...
MJDUSC:: scott, I also agree that we really missed him
mghinc:: Any talk on why coach called a play to a freshman on a key first down?
GarryP:: Bush looked pretty open on his route. We came right back to it and scored the next TD to Reggie with a similar play
toner 1:: Bush has such great vision in the open field and breath taking jets. He just has the extra gear
mghinc:: I think that if Bush plays all around like he did against VT he will win the Heisman
toner 1:: Mike, I could see that happening if the team does well. He can score on offense, kicks or punts. Really dynamic
Scott4USC:: Garry do you have a freshmen eligibility update?
GarryP:: I didn't hear any more today. The latest I've heard is Rachal in, Jones
Scott4USC:: ridiculous they haven't given them an answer...
toner 1:: It's more than ridiculous, it's unbelievable
wstripes:: Garry, Have you spoken to D williams
GarryP:: I tried calling Williams again tonight but still havent reached him yet.
USCinPA:: When will Hershel be back?
GarryP:: nobody knows yet on HD. Carroll says he has a timetable in mind but he hasnt said when it is
MJDUSC:: I have concerns about drake
Fanatic99:: Any thoughts on the starting Oline for CSU game? i.e. RT?
GarryP:: There was one point when
MJDUSC:: his ankle does not allow him to practice regularly and without practice his endurance won't go up but his weight will
GarryP:: I think at the very least Kyle Williams kept the competition open at right tackle.
Fanatic99:: I agree GarryP.......good depth there
MJDUSC:: who backs up baker at left tackle
TR0JANFAN6:: Spanos, I think
GarryP:: Right now it would be Radovich
toner 1:: problaby Drew
MJDUSC:: thanks garry
TR0JANFAN6:: Spanos at G or T now?
GarryP:: He's still at LT primarily but lately he's been behind Drew in the rotation
Fanatic99:: How did Kalil and Matua grade out?
MJDUSC:: I am not sure byers will ever beat out kalil so long as kalil is healthy
toner 1:: Spanos has a wide frame. I bet he could hold a good 300, maybe more
jacksonsf:: camera just showed Lynn Swann at RNC.
wstripes:: Garry, could you see us getting both Wells and Lucky
GarryP:: I sure hope so stripes. Those are the two we want.
wstripes:: I heard the reason no one is going after Jonathan Stewart is because he's to nice of a kid. Some question how much he likes football.
RLott42:: I think we have a real good chance of landing wells
fanswithclass:: garry, PC said in the paper that some freshmen may get long looks during the bye, any chance of the starting line-up changing for CSU?
GarryP:: I don't think so. The freshmen I could see getting long looks would be guys like Jarrett, Rivers, Schweiger, Byers, Davis, Pinkard and the only one who could maybe push past a current starter is Jarrett. My guess is McFoy did a solid enough job to hold him off for now.
MJDUSC:: i have a feeling that SC will have trouble getting some borderline type students into school this time around
Scott4USC:: MJD, they're not getting them in NOW!! (Herring & Germany)
MJDUSC:: Scott: nope I mean much harder to get in
MJDUSC:: those guys have clearinghouse issues
MJDUSC:: I am worried that some NCAA eligible types might not get into sc in future classes
MJDUSC:: i still think the best tailback on the team is named LenDale White
fanswithclass:: MJD, the best RB on the team is named Dennis
MJDUSC:: fans: I will respectively disagree on that one
Fanatic99:: I think we will see many sets with Lendale and Bush in the backfield at the same time
mghinc:: Got to have White and Bush on the field at the same time
GarryP:: I agree Mike. More LenDale is fine with me.
MJDUSC:: I think lendale is heisman material in his own right on the right team that featured him
Fanatic99:: motion Bush and give to Lendale between the tackles
fanswithclass:: I think Dennis has the top speed of Bush (not the acceleration) hits the hole like Fargas, and catches and blocks better than LD
mghinc:: Dont know why that went away from While early when he was getting 8 yds a crack
GarryP:: I think we might start seeing more of David Kirtman too
USCinPA:: how about Lendale and Hershel in the backfield and Reggie in the slot
toner 1:: It's great to have both(RB and LW). They do different things. Both are great. White is the better pounder and Bush is the kind of guys keeping opposing DC's sleepless nights
MJDUSC:: is there a more underated guy on the team than kirtman
RLott42:: the way we are talking about dennis is he back?
Creamy Filling:: I don't think Hershels top speed is anywhere close to Reggie's.
MJDUSC:: all he ever does is produce
fanswithclass:: reggie may see more of the slot if the WRs don't step up and Reggie keeps dancing behind the LOS
Fanatic99:: Kirtman looks very good at Fullback......closer to Hancock than people think
toner 1:: I think some folks are giving up on Bush way too quickly as a rusher. Just wait, he'll break one. And then another, and another...
fanswithclass:: toner, it took Sultan 4 years to stop dancing, I hope Reggie catches on a little quicker
MattyB:: the thing w/ Reggie is its feast or famine when he's running the ball - he trys too hard for the "home run" play sometimes...
MattyB:: Lendale is always going forward - gotta like that
toner 1:: fans, there is NO comparison between Sultan and Reggie. Bush is already far superior. The only similarity is speed. Bush has a lot more balance and grace.
fanswithclass:: toner, I'm not saying they are the same, I'm saying they have the same problem w/ dancing in the backfield
toner 1:: Bush will always be a jitterbug type. That's just what you get from a guy like him. Sayers did some dancing. So did Payton
cbromusc:: bush has many more moves and is much quicker than Sultan...... a huge difference.
blemblam:: Garry I live in
GarryP:: welcome blemblam.
mghinc:: I think VT will be better this yr than anybody thought
jefftrojantheft:: I thought USC played great in the atmosphere they were in. If you were at the game you would understand that they could have folded. But they fought to the end and came out with a victory against a tough opening opponent.
trojaneddy:: the crowds was really hostile and it was really hot. chow was too conservative
Fanatic99:: Is Sed Ellis close to being our next Patterson?
GarryP:: Patterson was awesome in this game
Fanatic99:: Patterson is the man........we will miss him next year.....need to find his replacement
GarryP:: Sed Ellis will be ready to go when it's his time
MJDUSC:: garry: do you think barrett is gonna make it back or do you think his shoulders are just toast
GarryP:: I'm worried right now about Chris.
MJDUSC:: me too
MJDUSC:: does not sound encouraging
jacksonsf:: who is better at this stage of their career, Jarrett or BMW?
Fanatic99:: Jarrett and BMW are different I think
Fanatic99:: Jarrett seems faster and a better leaper.........but not as big, strong or physical
sportsczy1972:: Give Jarrett time... he's just raw
MJDUSC:: jarrett reminds me physically of randy moffett
RLott42:: One is a true reciver(Jarrett) BMW just overpowering
sportsczy1972:: BMW was not that great when he started either
GarryP:: It was glaring how much we missed Mike in that game. He was such a difference maker.
jacksonsf:: Any news on Buchanon? I would really love for him to fill the Kareem Kelly speed role and have Jarrett as the third option.
toner 1:: He got good pretty quickly, though. Caught 80 passes his 1st year
GarryP:: Yes but from the KSU game on he was as good as they come.
sportsczy1972:: We had CP and a veteran o-line when BMW was a freshman
MattyB:: yeahn that early 3rd down to Jarrett was frustrating - BMW's play, that our offense needs to make
sportsczy1972:: Not to mention Colbert to teach him
GarryP:: It depends on how quickly Ryan learns the defense. At this point Lua is ahead of him and that's why we saw Oscar in the game when Lofa needed a break.
toner 1:: Powdrell has a RS year, yes?
GarryP:: yes, Ryan does have one available
cbromusc:: Garry, who has more potential...Lua or Powdrell?
MJDUSC:: Garry: are you sure on powdrell, didn't he play with Billy Hart
GarryP:: yes, he played as a senior when Jordan Palmer was QB
mghinc:: Bing what is up with him?
SC POOH BAH:: I thought Bing did a decent job
fanswithclass:: pooh, I thought that Bing did fairly well, Leach was bad
Scott4USC:: Honestly, there was so much hype with Bing, I don't know how he can or could ever live up to it
SC POOH BAH:: Leach didn't have his best game...overall they must have done something right to hold VT to 13
fanswithclass:: pooh, one of the things we did right was that Randall was spotty, i don't know how much credit we get for that
SouthOC4SC:: I loved the second half pressure - Randall looked confused
cbromusc:: The pressure in the 4th quarter was much better and Randall rushed his passes
toner 1:: The thing I notice about Bing is he looks more comfortable. He might have missed a play here and there but he's also around the ball. He'll make something happen
fanswithclass:: safety is the toughest position to play as a freshman next to QB
fanswithclass:: people need to give Bing a game or two
sportsczy1972:: Sartz needs to cover the TEs
RLott42:: We need to knock the TE off thier outes and on thier ass.....
Fanatic99:: I think VT's TE's were open because our backers were keeping one eye on Randall
SouthOC4SC:: In defense of our LB's two of those catches were all-world. Those guys won;t make another catch that sensational for the rest of the year...
cbromusc:: I agree RLOtt....we do not block the tight ends...
GarryP:: The VTech TE's were pretty good
jefftrojantheft:: The middle of the field is always open against our defense, WHY?
fanswithclass:: theft, poor speed at LB, and a scheme that keeps things in front
cbromusc:: Point is the tight ends were open all of the time....
Fanatic99:: that and they still had to make diving catches
RLott42:: Our LB were over pursuing a lot and that put them out of position.
toner 1:: you got to remember, two of those catches by their TE's were not your garden variety. Those were great catches. That happens
SouthOC4SC:: Diving outstretched perfect catches
GarryP:: SArtz had some pretty good coverage on one of those nice catches
toner 1:: VT played two TE's
fanswithclass:: yes, diving catches against Sartz and Bing, not easy ones
SouthOC4SC:: He did and the dude just caught it in the only place he could
Fanatic99:: and when Randall didn't throw it perfectly..........Lofa picked it off
cbromusc:: Toner, I agree but our linebackers were not in good position from my perspective
RLott42:: If we threw those balls to our TE we would be saying great throws and great catches and thats what they were
hollando:: Garry You hardly heard Cody name mentioned In The Game was he doubled a lot
GarryP:: yes but Cody was working those guys and it showed in the 2nd half. He was also on punt coverage team and was one of the first ones down on coverage when we had three punts in a row late in the game, what a great effort.
trojaneddy:: holland, cody was doubled a lot and they held him a lot too
RLott42:: are blocking schemes changed and schweigert was a stud
jefftrojantheft:: I notice that Garry, Cody got fell on by a fat ass linemen from VTech.
cbromusc:: Vtech did have a pretty big oline
Fanatic99:: So why do I think that Wyatt and Wright our our best corners?
toner 1:: 99, that's more like the general consensus
fanswithclass:: fanatic you're right!
USCinPA:: Arbet did not look 100%
Fanatic99:: I think Arbet is a better spy.........nickel or dime
cbromusc:: Arbet is more than one step slower
SouthOC4SC:: agree! Though I still say Nunn has some plays left in him
RLott42:: i think arbets hammy is still bothering him
jacksonsf:: Arbet hasn't played in TWO years. I do agree that he is best at nickel.
Fanatic99:: Nunn.....good tackler....but not physical enough
toner 1:: In Arbet's defense, he does have a hammy problem. That can't help
cbromusc:: ok was not aware of his hammy
methomps:: I dont think we should start a CB who rides one of those foot scooters to class, So Nunn is out
fanswithclass:: Nunn looks better in zone
fanswithclass:: wright and wyatt actually look quick enough for man-to-man
toner 1:: still like Wyatt and Wright. Gives us a lot of atleticism back there
fanswithclass:: exactly toner
fanswithclass:: use nunn and arbet in nickel and dime
fanswithclass:: i think terrel thomas may push to get in there too
GarryP:: PC just seems to like the way Wright plays
fanswithclass:: garry, it looked like Wright started the last 4 series of the game, is the new starter yet?
GarryP:: Eric made a good impression, that's for sure. He's not the starter though.
trojaneddy:: is t thomas healthy?
toner 1:: no, shoulder
mghinc:: I did not see the game only heard it on the net was Bing's penalty just plain stupid or what?
RLott42:: Bing penalty was stupid
jacksonsf:: could the problems that Startz and Bing had be attributed to the option offense and mobile QB of VT? I bet that Startz and Bing come around very soon.
RLott42:: I am surprised PC did not pull him
SouthOC4SC:: It was stupid, but I like his aggressive behavior. Ronnie Lott was like that you know...
RLott42:: but a play like that can cost you a game. Lott never cost a game
SouthOC4SC:: Not true. I've seen Lott get an overaggressive penalty in the pros...
SouthOC4SC:: Point taken though RLott
mghinc:: over aggressive is one thing stupid is something else that penatly could have cost us the game
toner 1:: cbro, read much about CSU's fall camp?
cbromusc:: Lubbick is high on the Rams....They have a good looking offense..although the QB is still somewhat inexperienced..He is a drop back passer..The defense is suspect at linebacker and dback but Lubbick says this is his fastest defense ever...
cbromusc:: The CSU dline should be decent...and their oline is pretty big...They want to establish power running game.
SouthOC4SC:: Drop back passer + just what the doctor ordered!
fanswithclass:: cbro, we'll see this week vs. CU, right?
toner 1:: yes, I know a little about their QB. How's
toner 1:: South, the guy never runs. Backup does although he's new
cbromusc:: Yes I will be at the game...and will take notes on CSU
toner 1:: I sure liked him when he played against us when he was at CU. Injuries have taken a toll.
cbromusc:: He will play on sundays
sportsczy1972:: He's fast enough and tall enough
GarryP:: hollando - he will be in a very short period of time. Fred will be a great one at TE.