Comparing WSU-Notre Dame, Pac-10 polls, more

THE WEST COAST MEDIA who regularly follow the Pac-10 have, as you've no doubt heard by now, picked the Cougs to finish last in the conference in '09. One of WSU's higher profile games will be against Notre Dame in San Antonio. Funny thing about those two schools, they're polar opposites in many respects, including the overrated/underrated category in comparing preseason polls to actual finish.

Indeed, Notre Dame and Washington State come out on decidedly opposite ends of the spectrum in an overrated/underrated category according to a metric spanning 20 seasons.

Longtime college football site stassen.com has a section where they've compared preseason rankings, since 1989, to the final AP poll.

And get this -- over the last 20 years, Washington State is the most underrated team in all of in D-IA college football.

Meanwhile, Notre Dame, since '89, is the second most overrated team in the land, behind Michigan.

You can find the complete list HERE.

AS NOTED IN a Cougfan.com story earlier this week, the Pac-10 Media has picked WSU to finish last seven times since 1978 -- and they've been wrong six of those seven times.

In case you were wondering about this decade, here's a rundown of the Pac-10 media's preseason picks since 2000 along with Washington State's actual finish.

Pac-10 Media Polls
2000-2009

2000
Actual WSU finish: T-8th 
 
Actual champ: OSU/UW/UO

1.  Washington (16) 275 pts.
2. USC (11) 272
3. Oregon (1) 211
4. UCLA 181
5. Arizona State (2) 167
6. Oregon State 163
7. Stanford 133
8. Arizona 127
9. California 63
10. Washington State 47

2001
Actual WSU finish: T-2nd

Actual champ: UO

1.  Oregon (20) 310 pts.
2. Oregon State (3) 270
3. UCLA (10) 262
4. Washington 228
5. Stanford 191
6. USC 185
7. Arizona State 128
8. California 90
9. Arizona 81
10. Washington State 70

2002
Actual WSU finish: T-1st 

Actual champ: WSU/USC

1.  Washington State (17) 302 pts.
2. Washington (12) 296
3. Oregon (1) 272
4. USC (3) 243
5. Oregon State (1) 207
6. UCLA 178
7. Stanford 131
8. Arizona 107
9. Arizona State 87
10. California 47

2003
Actual WSU finish: 2nd

Actual champ: USC

1.  USC (10) 227 pts.
2. Arizona State (9) 224
3. Washington (4) 198
4. Oregon State (2) 172
5. Oregon 139
6. UCLA 138
7. Washington State 107
8. California 68
9. Stanford 57
10. Arizona 46

2004
Actual WSU finish: 7th 

Actual champ: USC

1.  USC (24) 240 pts.
2. California 210
3. Oregon 192
4. Oregon State 138
5. Washington State 133
6. Arizona State 131
7. Washington 100
8. UCLA 98
9. Stanford 40
10. Arizona 38

2005
Actual WSU finish: T-9th

Actual champ: USC 

1.  USC (41) 410 pts.
2. California 300
3. Arizona State 296
4. Oregon 290
5. UCLA 282
6. Washington State 189
7. Oregon State 159
8. Arizona 131
9. Stanford 106
10. Washington 92

2006
Actual WSU finish: T-5th

Actual champ: USC

1.  USC (18) 276 pts.
2. California (7) 257
3. Oregon (3) 229
4. Arizona State (1) 204
5. UCLA 145
6. Arizona 133
7. Oregon State 125
8. Washington State 96
9. Stanford 90
10. Washington 50

2007
Actual WSU finish: T-7th

Actual champ: USC

1.  USC (39) 390 pts.
2. California 323
3. UCLA 305
4. Arizona State 242
5. Oregon State 237
6. Oregon 226
7. Arizona 162
8. Washington State 115
9. Washington 98
10. Stanford 47

2008
Actual WSU finish:
9th  
Actual champ: USC

1.  USC (38) 389 pts.
2. Arizona State 330
3. Oregon 295
4. California (1) 274
5. UCLA 204
6. Oregon State 192
7. Arizona 185
8. Washington 139
9. Stanford 76
10. Washington State 61

2009
Actual WSU finish: ?
  
Actual champ: ?

1.  USC (28) 316 pts.
2. California (3) 277
3. Oregon (1) 250
4. Oregon State 216
5. Arizona State 155
6. Stanford 150
7. UCLA 145
8. Arizona 142
9. Washington 74
10. Washington State 35

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Longtime college football site stassen.com has a section where they've compared preseason rankings, since 1989, to the final AP poll.

And get this -- over the last 20 years, Washington State is the most underrated team in all of in D-IA college football.

Meanwhile, Notre Dame, since '89, is the second most overrated team in the land, behind Michigan.

You can find the complete list HERE.

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