GoalieSieveGopherOnAStickLet's start with the big news of the week - Cincinnati tight end Alex Smith, who was on campus early last week on an unofficial visit after being driven up to Madison by Jeff Duckworth's mother. Duckworth, a 2009 verbal commit to Wisconsin, is good friends with Smith
trieuprospects yeah, and I spoke to Alex down in Orlando just over a week ago and he likes Wisconsin
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStickDave Berk on Smith, who is a soft verbal to Cincinnati: "Alex made is UC pledge in Feb. At that time the tight end coach was Mike Elston, right after his pledge Elston was moved to DL and Smith was not happy with the fact it looked like he'd be coached by the OL and WR coach and not a TE coach. UC did hire a new TE coach but didn't do so until June. So for a few months Alex didn't see UC taking the TE position as one they really cared about."
The5thQuarter Basically, he has said that he has opened up his recruitment from his commitment to Cincinnati. He has a final six that he is considering, which is LSU, Miami, North Carolina, Cincinnati, UW and Michigan
kingkeggel And if we don't get him what are the chances on Sherard Cadogan? trieuprospects Wisconsin is in the mix for Cadogan, but I would say there is a much better shot with Smith
The5thQuarter I think we have a great shot. His main point in the short conversation with me was that he loved the coaches and the way they used the tight ends.
trieuprospects Cadogan, I think likes Pitt and MSU a little better
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStickCadogan is interesting. Goes to the same school as 2010 UW verbal commit Joe Brennen
The5thQuarter he liked Madison more than his other visits as well
trieuprospects Cadogan needs to get up to Madison before we really know
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Joe Brennen on Cadogan: "It would be cool for me and him to play on the same college team. Him and I are good friends, so it would be awesome. It's his decision in the end, but I'll definitely plant the idea with him."
kingkeggel That mike from huber heights, does he have a timeline?
The5thQuarter he is going to decide before the season he said yesterday
The5thQuarter and he has not received the offers that he thought he might get from MSU and Vandy
trieuprospects Josh Harrison is his name too
The5thQuarter I think it is all Wisconsin for Harrison...if he has a true offer, which I think he does, then he could be our next commitment
kingkeggel The Talbott brothers look like they are going to Michigan
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Harrison is good friends with the Talbott brothers. They grew up together and all got their first football scholarship offer from Wisconsin.
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Allen, what do you know about Team Talbott?
The5thQuarter Yes, it does look like they are leaning towards Michigan from what I have seen
trieuprospects that one is interesting, because I do think the Talbotts like Michigan
trieuprospects however, I've heard conflicting things about whether or not they have committable offers
trieuprospects Terrence recently said he was down to Wisconsin and Michigan
trieuprospects Michigan is in on a lot of other DBs, so if one of them commits soon, like a few of them might, I think Terrence will end up a Badger
kingkeggel I thought they were a package deal
trieuprospects well, yeah
kingkeggel so would that mean we get terry too?
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick It will be interesting to see if Terrence and Terry make their decision together and if they wind up going to the same school
trieuprospects then in that case they both would go to UW
The5thQuarter honestly package deals rarely work out in recruiting for some reason
trieuprospects with brothers though, it is different
The5thQuarter however, since they are brothers then I would have to think they would have the greatest chance to actual do it
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick It was originally thought that William Gholston and Jonathan Hankins were going to be a package deal, but that doesn't look like it's going to be the case
trieuprospects well, with that, it is because MSU has not offered Hankins, so we will see what happens there
kingkeggel and what about Kevin Johnson
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick I talked to Kevin today. He's back from Costa Rica. He went on a trip with his parents. Reports that it was 'sweet'
kingkeggel I'm sure it was
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick We should expect a decision within the next week
The5thQuarter Here is a little tidbit that I am working on right now. Some think we are out of it for McCay, however, I have had recent texts with him and he is calling me in a few minutes and we are definitely still in the conversation
kingkeggel That is great news. That kid is an animal
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Allen watched McCay a couple weeks ago in Florida. Allen, is McCay as good as people say he is? Can be a difference maker on defense right away?
kingkeggel He has amazing speed
trieuprospects He played WR at the Orlando event, so i didn't get to see him play LB. He is big and fast though. He actually wants to play WR in college he told me
kingkeggel We are recruiting him as WR I think
kingkeggel In every conversation he has he changes his top schools. He likes the spread offense though
trieuprospects He told the same thing to Jason Higdon from the Florida site. He told me that it's really Florida and Oklahoma. From what I hear, Florida may be backing off him, so I bet he ends up at OU
kingkeggel Yeah that's what I thought to, but you never know.
The5thQuarter I asked him specifically if Wisconsin was in his final schools and he said ‘yes,' so I am not sure if he is just giving me a line
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick I don't think he'll end up at Wisconsin, but it's nice to see a top player has UW in the top five (or near that) of his list
trieuprospects A quick update on Jon Hankins, too. I just talked to someone close to him. He was at Ohio State today (Tuesday), but did not make any decision kingkeggel Yeah I think that he is OU but I agree (that) a ‘Name' prospect that likes UW.
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Ohio State is the team to beat for Hankins
The5thQuarter I recently emailed him and am waiting, not sure if he will respond or not
trieuprospects That's another offer that I've heard is questionable. I believe Hankins is on an OSU "watch list"
The5thQuarter reminds me of the Ryan Reynolds situation with Wisconsin. Relationship with a coach, so he keeps them close
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick How does everyone think UW's class is shaping up so far?
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick UW has 12 verbals, seven from the Badger state. Five players are ranked three stars or higher - Zagzebski, Gilbert, Tamakloe, Brennen and Herring.
kingkeggel I love how the defense is looking. The safeties and backers especially
The5thQuarter I actually like it a lot. The state of Wisconsin's class is pretty deep this year and has some solid players. Tamakloe and Ontko are probably my favorite players in the class so far.
trieuprospects A lot of underrated guys; guys who will move up in our next rankings
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick I think Ontko is the guy that will make the biggest move
kingkeggel Marquis Mason is very intriguing
trieuprospects Yeah, I really like Mason
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Honestly, I don't see one player that I don't like on this list. All these recruits are three or four star quality player
s The5thQuarter I wish Jeff Lewis would have gotten that offer from Cal, that would have helped his stock.
trieuprospects Jeff Lewis should see a good bump. I mean, he's not rated now, but he'll be 3-stars, I think.
The5thQuarter According to the Ohio guy, Byers is just like Borland, but he actually likes Byers better
trieuprospects Mason should go up to three-star player, too
kingkeggel Yeah, Mason could be real good
The5thQuarter What do you think about Brennan only being the #32 and 3 star as the top QB in NJ?
trieuprospects I can't speak too much for how guys ranked in the East, but I know that quarterbacks are pretty deep this year. So 32 is not as low as it sounds
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick It'll be interesting to see if Wisconsin takes another running back
trieuprospects We also don't have video on him, which is likely affecting his rating
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Matt Alkire, one of Scout's many analyst, has been working on getting film from Brennen's coach for quite sometime
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick I've talked to couple RB recruits that are still highly interested in UW. Stories on them coming this week
The5thQuarter I think they only take another if a higher ranked player comes in
The5thQuarter Do you think they will ever reclassify Zagzebski to a DE?
trieuprospects Wes, we will probably move Zagzebski over on the 15th, when we redo rankings
The5thQuarter Another commit you might see sooner than later is Kyle French, the kicker from Wisconsin
The5thQuarter Some thought Austin Kirpes might commit, however, he hasn't had much contact with Wisconsin the last few weeks
kingkeggel Why did we pull our scholarship from Chance Carter?
The5thQuarter His spot may have filled up in the class already. We got a commit from Zagzebski
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick I agree on Kirpes, I think UW has targeted some bigger players at that position.
The5thQuarter and now we have one from Herring
trieuprospects I've heard very mixed reviews on Carter too
The5thQuarter He was kinda slow playing everyone and may have lost his spot at a number of schools.
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick I haven't talked to Chance since May. He told me that someone else committed before him and that his offer was pulled.
trieuprospects He hasn't talked to anyone in awhile
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick At the time, the only one committed was Zags kingkeggel Zagzebski?
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Of course, UW was only working with approximately 14 scholarships in early May.
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Now, UW looks to have around 20 for this class
trieuprospects Hey guys, I have to run, but it was good chatting with you. I'll be back next week along with other regional analysts who can fill in on some of the players outside my region. As always, feel free to e-mail me or PM me any questions.
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Always a pleasure Allen. Thanks for stopping by
trieuprospects Yep, lets make this a habit!
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Every Tuesday, we'll be here
The5thQuarter Jermaine Barton is an interesting player
kingkeggel he has family there
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick We were one of the first people to talk to Barton. He didn't know too much about Wisconsin, but he wants to come up for a game
The5thQuarter We are his best offer thus far, so hopefully Conor (O'Neill) and Dezman (Southward) can work a little magic if a few of those guys make the trip.
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Although Barton's offer list is small now, with his other offers coming from Connecticut, Florida International and Purdue, Barton has been talking to coaches from Arkansas, Michigan, Michigan State, Oklahoma, Miami and, his childhood favorite, Florida, who is his favorite school right now.
kingkeggel Cooks hasn't had much luck in Texas. Bagley went to UTEP over UW. That's interesting to me
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Cooks hasn't had much success there the past two years
kingkeggel Jay Valai is from Texas though right?
The5thQuarter Yes, and Bagley never got his offer
kingkeggel Oh he didn't?
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Devin Smith could be pretty good in UW's nickel package this year.
The5thQuarter I don't think Dorsey is going anywhere
The5thQuarter I think he will end up at Florida in the end
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick He's made no mention of Wisconsin over the past couple of months.
The5thQuarter if Wisconsin can get some of these recruits on campus then we might have a shot. We have a very good commit rate with a visit
kingkeggel The Talbott brothers, or at least one of them, thought that the Michigan campus was a step above the Wisconsin
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick I believe that was Terrence who said that
The5thQuarter but like Allen said, he might not have an offer for long if Michigan fills up. And if Harrison commits, that is even more incentive for Wisconsin for the brothers.
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Wisconsin is pretty high on Kevin Johnson to fill the cornerback spot.
kingkeggel What is Wisconsin still recruiting, position wise?
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick him and Penial Jean from Palm beach Central seem to be the two top targets.
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Wide receiver, looking for two to three linebackers total
kingkeggel Yeah if we lose out on Johnson but still get the three from Huber Heights, I'll take that trade
The5thQuarter I think they will always have spots for Ching, Allen, and McCay if they want to come.
kingkeggel Eggen and Epping - we didn't offer either of them
The5thQuarter that is why I think Barton could fill one of the later spots if he takes a visit.
kingkeggel Rob Havenstein seemed very impressed with Wisconsin
The5thQuarter Robby loves the tradition of Wisconsin linemen, however, he might be tough to pull from the East Coast. It is good that he has visited as well
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Talking to Epping after the camp he blew off, he said that Wisconsin wasn't as intriguing to him at the U.
The5thQuarter Brewster is a good salesman, however, he doesn't have a commit from Wisconsin that had a UW offer. The only one we haven't gotten so far is Hardy
kingkeggel At least we got Zagzebski back though. As long as we lock down the instaters, we will continually have a foundation for our recruiting classes
kingkeggel Where are Vander and Cam at?
The5thQuarter in the end I think vander will be at UW
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick I posted a story last night about Vander. According to his mother and grandfather, Vander isn't doing interviews at this time
kingkeggel That's understandable
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick However, talking to the grandfather, Vander is focusing on his grades and the ACT exam before starting to take visits, which I've heard are going to be Arizona, Florida, Tennessee, UCLA and one more
kingkeggel grades first - mothers knows that
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Cam said he was going to make his decision before his senior year starts.
The5thQuarter Honestly sounds like he is taking visits to take visits
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Our basketball recruiting analyst, Michael Langlois, has been talking to him the most
kingkeggel We found cam and it seems like we are his top choice
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick I would agree. He's going through all his options, just like all the other kids. We haven't heard much basketball recruiting news in awhile. UW has one opening for 2010, and three for 2011
The5thQuarter Couple highly rated kids in WI for 2011
kingkeggel Is that Darnell Harris?
The5thQuarter and Darrell Longstreet
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick UW coach Howard Moore has been watching both of those guys, especially Longstreet, who was in Madison for UW's summer team camp.
The5thQuarter I like the offer to Zach Price.
The5thQuarter the good thing about 2011 and WI is that Marquette won't have many scholarships available like they will in 2012 since they got 2 JUCOs in last years class
kingkeggel yeah. Is James White is he close to committing?
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Negative, he told me that he is going to wait until after the season. He wants to see what other opportunities come up
The5thQuarter He might be one of the RB we would wait for. He is pretty special and explosive.
kingkeggel He has a Huge list of offers
The5thQuarter Ben is getting it done folks
kingkeggel Who is Doug Rigg, I don't believe I know him
The5thQuarter A OLB from NJ. He plays RB but most schools were recruiting him at LB
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick Wisconsin is the only school that has offered him as a running back.
kingkeggel He'll probably be West Virginia or Maryland
GoalieSieveGopherOnAStick He is taking officials to Iowa, Maryland, Rutgers, possibly Pittsburgh and possibly North Carolina. I think with that, we'll wrap up the chat for this week. Thanks to everybody for participating and viewing.
The5thQuarter Thanks for the chat, see you all next week
kingkeggel Thanks for the chat keep doing good work
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