I don't think that's fair to judge talent based on opponents. College coaches don't care about that. Not to bash on North Canyon, but they have a few D1 offer athletes and they get beat up week after week.
These are HS kids. You guys should be happy for them. The fact they put in work and are making something out of it. Congrats to both of the Lyles brothers for earning a free education while doing something they enjoy.
Eough about Bashing on the kids, But Jason really if you were to Rank your Top Qbs today I guarantee you would have kids ahead of him that don't even have a sniff of a Div 1 offer on the table yet let alone a Big Ten School that is a potential Top 25 team.
If I was a betting Man the offer was extended To the Qb with the chance of getting the Younger Bother
I am going to lock this thread and delete the non sense.
I started this site 12 years ago to positively promote AZ high school football. Not bash kids.
Jason, noted, but I will say this: The promotion and salesmanship of HS athletes, and FB players in particular, has changed dramatically over those 12 years. Now when these kids are put up on a pedestal and reap the rewards of that publicity and promotion some feel it is fair game to demonstrate why others who may not receive the same adulation and marketing are as good if not better players. There is truth in the phenomenon that whether it be through skillful salesmanship of coaches, or parents, or scouting organizations there are many who receive the scholarships and benefits that come with that who otherwise wouldn't or shouldn't, and those who are thus left out of the limited available scholarships who often bring more to the table with grades, or effort, along with the skill and ability. Its natural for people to want to compare and be critical as a result. I have seen both sides of that equation.
There is a HUGE difference between constructive criticism/comparison of players, or highlighting other players when they go unmentioned or unnoticed, and the type of ridiculous hating and bashing that has gone on here over the years and just like today. The posts deleted went after these kids and did not say: "oh but wait, what about kid xyz down the street - he has better tools or size or whatever and is deserving of an offer from abc school." It was nothing but bitter stabs at a kid(s) - from grown men sitting anonymously behind computer screens and likely whose own kids or kids they know or alma mater kids may not be getting the same accolades, offers, or hype.
I agree there is a line. It's different for some than others. I like to think those on this site do a pretty good job of policing that and letting people know when they have gone over it. I suspect I have become a little less than restrained on occasion as well and hope that I have reigned it in as a result. Maybe not enough.
I agree.. Most of the negative comments come from newbies that create files to talk stuff and bash kids and leave.
I couldn't disagree more! I have followed these boards for years (I go back to the AZ CENTRAL days of the late 1990s) , don't post much just follow, and the one constant is if a kid is hyped up by a coach, the press or his helicopter dad and doesn't produce (beating up a bunch of D3 schools doesn't count) he will get called out for it .
Everyone is so quick to defend a kid and say "he's just a high school kid, don't be so hard". Well how about we start saying "he's just a high school kid, don't label him as the next Russ Wilson" . By providing such high expectations you only have nowhere to go but down.