QB--Tyler Davis St. David 2. Adrian Wright SPA Only played one top 4-5 team and put up 5 int's and 1 td 3. Tyler willis Mogollon 9 yards/rush avg.
RB--Remington Baldwin Amazing!!! 2. Boone Baker Mogollon 3. Jace Luzania Vally U. Thsi would have been Cale Merrell if not hurt
WR--Matt Munsil SPA I bet it's nice to be thrown to all nite 2. Anthony Flores Superior 3 .Dominic Bravo Ray Nice player and only a So.
DB--Tyler Willis Mogollon 12 int's (state record is 8) Do not throw to his side. 2. J. Lovell Bagdad Will be #1 probably next 2 years. Only a So. 3. No one else close Coach ---Superior Nice job 2. Joe City He does it every year, almost. 3. Not Pima Tthey had the most to work with coming from 2A. They should be good.
Offensive player of the year. Rmeington Baldwin. Not even close. His stats would be scary if he played 4 quarters every game. Good kid and very talented. He has been scary for 3 years now. Pretty much a TD every time he touches the ball. Very fast.
Defensive player of the year. Tyler Willis. Leads the state(all Levels) with 12 picks. Only scored on 2 times all year. One was a push off and the other was a trick play. Good hands, good speed and good length.
I hate to make anything but positive comments on specific players so please don't take these thoughts as negative toward anyone.
After watching some of these players mentioned, I think there are currently better WRs and DBs in the state than the two sophomores mentioned above (Munsil and Loveall). I don't mean to criticize those particular players--they are definitely good players--I just think they aren't currently top picks at those positions. DB's: "no one even close" behind Loveall? Uh... he has a guy on his own team that's close. What about Bradford with 5 picks (SD) and Luzania (VU)? What about Murray (SD)? Those guys don't get beat, are faster than Loveall, and are stronger tacklers. All have more tackles than Willis too. Murray and Luzania have been starting corners since their sophomore year. What about Schmidt (Pima)? Much stronger and faster than Loveall right now. Beasley (Joy) is faster as well. Don't forget Grap (Superior).
Of the players I've seen, Murray would be my pick for defensive player of the year due to his speed, versatility, hard tackling, and defensive smarts. Also considered might be DE/LB/NG Montiel (Pima).
Re: WR's... Munsil is a good receiver and it's unfortunate that his high receiving numbers include the asterisk, *accummulated against inferior competition. Against Mogollon, he still had the most catches for all receivers, either team. He has good hands. His teammate Boyll is also a good receiver. Munsil the best in state? Numbers-wise, yes. But not sure about the overall best WR right now. I think SD, Superior, and Joy may have better ones right now.
Anyone that can snag Davis's bullets has pretty good hands.
Murry -- SD 71 tackles 2 int's Lazania --- VU 62 tackles 1 int's Bradford--- SD 41 tackles 5 int's Grap--- Sup 41 tackles 3 int's Willis--- Mog 41 tackles 12 int's Beasley-- JC 32 tackles 5 int's Lovall Bag ????? 10 int;s from what I heard
I believe all are DB's
DB's are to cover receivers, tackling is not their primary concern. I think I would take as many int's (turnovers) in a game as possible. What I meant when I said that no one was even close, was that Willis and Lovall had 12 & 10 int's. Then the next closest only has 5 int's. That is 1/2 as many as Lovall and not even 1/2 as Willis. Thats why I picked them.
Regarding the WR; I believe Willis had as many catches (4) as Munsil did in that SPA-MOG game. Unfortunately they came from SPA's QB also.
I disagree. I would bet that coaches would say that in 8-man HS football, the CB's primary responsibility is to stop the run on the outside. Safety? He's usually keeping anyone from getting behind him, but tackling is also primary. Now, when playing some teams, this would change and in some formations, the main responsibility might be to stop the pass, but look around at the 8-man teams and you'll find this more an exception than the rule, I would think. College and NFL? Different story.
Your interception opportunities will also depend a lot upon your opponent. Also, shut-down DB's that cover their guy well often don't get lots of picks because their man is covered and isn't thrown to. For instance, passing teams that play VU have learned to go away from Luzania because he always has his man well covered, so he's not going to get many INT opportunities. I don't think INTs are necessarily the best indicator of DB value.
That being said, 12 INTs in a year is remarkable. Mayberry from SD had 7 two years in a row (2009, 2010) and I thought that was pretty good. Willis must be playing the safety position.
Fballfan99--I'm glad you said something because mwdc was way off here. Against good running teams in 8-man football the corner is like an outside linebacker--he has to stop the run to the outside if he doesn't or can't you don't have a good defense and a good running team will kill you. Interceptions are not the main determining factor of a good DB. Most of the time it is the safety that makes most interceptions because they are free to read the quarterback. The only time a corner's primary responsibility is to stop the pass is when you are playing a team that passes almost every down--spread offense.
I haven't said anything about this until now, but I keep seeing comments like, "not the Pima coach--they had the most to work with" yet I don't see any Pima kids mentioned as top players (except Danny Montiel by I think Fballfan99). So which is it, the coaches have done a good job with no top players or their is a bias by most of you and the players aren't getting mentioned because the fact remains that they are 8-0 against the toughest schedule that any of the top teams faced.
I agree, ftballfanatic. Munsil is a stud. Frankly, I was not impressed with him in other games I'd seen because I noticed he took plays off and didn't go hard every play. If the play was not going to be to him, he pretty much loafed through the play. Not against St. David, however. He stepped up big.
Murray wasn't all over him all night, just the second half. Murray slowed him down significantly, but Munsil still got some catches over and around Murray even when well covered. Munsil looked to be able to jump higher, which helped him leap and reach over and take the ball away. Murray still played very well, however. In the end, he stepped up and did what was needed to help the Tigers win the game.
My current perspective is that the top QB's are Davis and Wright. RB's are Baldwin, Luzania, and Baker. WR's are Munsil, Flores, Wahlers, and Hancock. TE is Campbell. I'm sure there are others deserving whom I haven't seen play.