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#SchoolRatingRecordStrength #1Blue Ridge High School Section 1 24.2444 9-0-0.0043 #2Show Low High School Section 1 21.1489 8-00.7732 #3Seton Catholic Preparatory High School Section 2 11.8432 7-1-1.0228 #4Monument Valley High School Section 1 11.8013 8-0-6.4597 #5Snowflake High School Section 1 11.4570 6-22.1649 #6Estrella Foothills High School Section 3 11.1654 6-22.1512 #7Mingus Union High School Section 3 8.8101 6-20.0995 #8Coolidge High School Section 2 7.0603 7-1-5.2012 #9Empire High School Section 2 6.7707 6-2-1.6918 #10Buckeye Union High School Section 3 6.7507 6-2-1.9726 #11River Valley High School Section 3 6.6968 5-31.1709 #12Winslow High School Section 1 6.0413 5-32.1110 #13Walden Grove High School Section 2 1.2319 5-3-4.4044 #14Globe High School Section 2 0.5231 5-3-3.5640 #15Payson High School Section 3 -0.6391 4-4-1.1014 #16Chinle High School Section 1 -2.0299 4-4-2.9880
A joke of a seedings system. MV #4 is going to get crushed on Friday by Winslow #12 seed. The AIA, and better yet the highschool athletic directors should be embarrassed by a system that sucks as bad as PPs do at actually being reflective of the product on the field.
You called that one. A 32 point loss by the #4 team in the powerpoint standings to the #12 team. The system is a joke especially when it comes to ranking the reservation teams who usually only have wins against each other. Every year one or two of these schools make it into the playoffs only to be obliterated in the 1st round, while other more deserving teams with much tougher schedules are left out. There must be a better way of ranking the teams than this system.
Winslow let off the gas pedal pretty early in this one and started kicking field goals. Not a great Winslow team, but not a bad one either. Well coached, and have a great staff, who are doing well by the kids. Not a better town to be in on a Friday Night than Winslow--good people, good kids, and good coaches. Always feel welcome there.
To Monument Valleys credit, they hung in there pretty well. Not quite as good as the Red Mesa teams of a number of years ago, but this is as good a football team as I have seen from north of I40 in quite some time. Looking at #13 through #16 in D4 I would say MV is better than any of those teams. Big tall Lanky QB with a great accurate arm, not super mobile, not a physical kid, but throws a great ball. If they protect him they are dangerous.
On to the rankings system. You couldn't have said it better with regard to beating other poor schools. At 14-0 I heard a player from Winslow talking sauce, saying and I quote "this ain't no Tuba, this ain't no Many Farms, this ain't no Rough Rock. It was actually pretty funny, because he was saying what those in the know have been saying all along. No formula can account for strength of schedule based on Opponents records, if those opponents schedules consist of the weak sisters of the north. You also hit the nail on the head with regard to Blowouts of these teams at state in the first round. This was commonplace with the old PPs System, and will be commonplace with the new one, until they either get rid of it, or better yet, add a human element that says what the kid from Winslow was saying. Who have you played and Who have you beat to get that record. Play a real team and then we can get a true guage of where you stack up. Currently I would say MV is a playoff team in D4 but barely.
The same thing is going on in Div. V. I feel bad for Round Valley who plays Blue Ridge, Show Low, Snowflake, St. Johns, Morenci & Thatcher. They are on the bubble of not making the playoffs and there are a number of teams ahead of them that they would put a whipping on. SAD!!
RV has a brutal schedule, and it is a travesty that they are not only not rewarded for that, but they are actually penalized for it. Been saying this all year, don't know where they sit now, or where they will be in a week, but the PPs system is a joke, has been a joke for years and will continue to be a joke until somebody with some type of pull questions the system. Those who won't who have the ability I have no respect. They are doing a disservice to these kids and it is crazy.
the unfortunate part, is a bulk of this could be solved if they would just drop this stupid mileage proximity schedule (regardless of division) and keep your AIA assigned games against teams within your own Division/Section. then if a school decides they want to schedule a bigger school or schools with their open dates that's their choice. It doesn't keep teams from the stronger sections within a division from possibly getting left out of the playoff's, but definetly gives a better picture of how a team fits into the Division.
Geo scheduling did not cause the issue. In fact, I have posted multiple times and multiple examples of screwed up seeding long before geo scheduling came along. The reality is, some areas are extremely strong in certain sports, and others are extremely weak. If in the good areas in some sports they beat up on each other, and the weaker areas play each other, nothing changes. In the old divisions the same problem occured, because divisions, such as the 2a north, or 3a east, or 3a north were bad or good depending on the sport. If you took the top two from each region, sometimes there were not 2 deserving teams and you would see a #2 seed get destroyed at state so that didn't work either. I'll repeat it again, the problem is not the schedules, it is the seeding system used, whether that be automatic bids, whether that be the old PPs system, or the new current PPs system, they all are miserable. The only corrective action, that solves it all is a human element, period.
I'm not one to defend the AIA often, but I do believe that the schools have the ability to tell the AIA this won't work. That is how we got to Geo scheduling in the first place. There were a huge % of schools outside the metro area who began to have problems with two things. The first was cost (because gas prices went through the roof), the second was how much school time was being missed by students. They went to the AIA and asked for a solution which was geo scheduling. It did a phenomenal job of handling both issues, that cannot be argued. The problem arose with the Metro schools being lumped in, when missed school time and travel costs were not an issue to them. As I have said for a long, long time.
Our people at our schools who have a voice, and don't use it when a clear problem like screwed up seeding is evident are the people to be held accountable, not the AIA. Our people agreed to this screwed up PPs system, and they have every right, and every ability to correct it. My opinion, they don't care enough or they would get it corrected. Like I said, It isn't this current PPs system that is any worse than any other, it is not the schedules, it flat out comes down to we don't have a system in place that can consider all the variables needed to seed team accordingly. Those variables are impossible to plug into any formula. Only a human brain can consider all the things from strength of schedule, to key injuries, to how you are playing at what time of year, and get it close. Simply put, 3 guys at each level could rank teams much more accordingly to ability than PPs can.
Additionally, this problem of dispariety between the have and the have not's is really at smaller divisions of the state. (although the number of "have's" at the Div 1 & 2 levels seems to be shrinking as well due to IMO the open enrollment policy) And I think we all can agree that the AIA primarily designs their systems and focuses on the big school divisions (DIV 1 & 2), the small schools just get to exisist in whatever system gets put in place.
I do agree that it used to be the disparity between the haves and the have nots existed mostly at the lower levels. But I do see the creep you are talking about at the upper levels now as well. I think open enrollment certainly is a factor, but for the life of me I don't see how with a good coach, in a school with 1000 kids you can't come up with 11 pretty decent football players, and be relatively competitive. Along with open enrollment---I also believe less and less kids tend to be involved in anything. Lots of kids just showing up, going to school and doing nothing extra, whether that be from band to academic decathlon to athletics, to clubs. Just to many easy things to take a kids time.