Quinton Patton, who played for the Ravens last year, is playing on TV (i think ESPN, but not sure) in the Poinsetta Bowl for Louisiana Tech Wed night Dec 21. They are playing TCU, who is picked to win. The spread is 11 points. Quinton (number 4) is Louisiana Tech's leading receiver this year with over 1000 yards. If you get a chance, check him out. He is a good kid and not one of the troublestarters the Ravens had last year. As I recall, he played here two years as a WR and punter.
bandrat wrote: Quinton Patton, who played for the Ravens last year, is playing on TV (i think ESPN, but not sure) in the Poinsetta Bowl for Louisiana Tech Wed night Dec 21. They are playing TCU, who is picked to win. The spread is 11 points. Quinton (number 4) is Louisiana Tech's leading receiver this year with over 1000 yards. If you get a chance, check him out. He is a good kid and not one of the troublestarters the Ravens had last year. As I recall, he played here two years as a WR and punter.
good for that youngster, but i am pretty sure he was part of the contingent that shouted profanity at our fans and made obscene gestures at our players, coaches and fans. i could be wrong, but i don't think i am.
When was the last time Butler even gave up 30 points in an entire game? 2004? Butler's defense has only gotten better over the years. It's Schaffner and Braet who make the Butler D dominant. And Butler's dominant D wins championships.
CV won't be scoring 30 points on Butler this year. Write that down.
we have been up on Butler by 30 points at half time 2 different times and Butler came back and won the game....
how long have you been around Butler football?
those wins are some of the biggest wins in the history of Butler football!
If you talk to any long standing Raven fan they will tell you that those losses' was & have been the biggest in Raven football history... or at least in my opinion.
--------------------------------------------- Actually, CV was only up 25 and 28 in those two games, respectively. They were in 2003. The first game was 28 to 3 at half. Butler came back to win 29 to 28. In the second game, the halftime score was 31 to 3. Butler scored 3 tds in the last 3 minutes to win 45 to 38. I've been around long enough to have attended both games.
But, that all misses the point. Butlers defense is far better now than it was then. Schaffner has been the dc since 2006, and the d has been lights out during that time. Cv will not score 30 on butler next year, let alone run up a 30 point lead.
JayhawkAlumni wrote: Oh! I got your point.. don't be like me and say this or that "is going to happen" when we have to play that game with the football that bounces both ways.
I do agree, it will be tuff going but strange things happen in this world... everyday!
I can't tell if that is English or not, but I think you're trying to say (1) I'm right and (2) that I am somehow being hypocritical by suggesting that you should be a little less flamboyant in your predictions, while myself stating that CV won't score 30 on Butler next year.
As for (1), thank you. I know.
As for (2), I hardly think the two things are comparable. CV hasn't beaten Butler in 14 YEARS. That's, what, 21 or 22 games? In that span, CV has only scored 30 points on Butler 1 time that I can remember. CV hasn't scored 30 points on Butler since 2003. I think it's fairly safe to say the CV won't score 30 points on Butler next year. Certainly, the odds are in my favor on that one.
On the other hand, your proclamations that something is wrong with Butler (i.e. its period of dominance is coming to an end), that things are changing in the conference (i.e. CV will be returning to domination), and that CV will beat Butler this year are . . . well . . . not good bets -- to put it mildly. Certainly, you don't have the support of recent history on your side, and you don't even have a reasonable projection based upon current facts. You don't have any new recruits to base these claims on, your coach has never been a HC before, your DC has never been a DC before, your OC has never been an OC before. They have NO track record to base your claims on. Sheesh, the list goes on. You have nothing but pathetically homeristic hopes and dreams to support your claims. Yet, you make proclamations as though you're the board soothesayer bringing the gospel of JUCO football to us heathens.
Am I saying that CV can't win or that CV will never return to prominence in the Conference? Hell no. We've all watched enough football and sports in general to know that upsets happen and things change. that being said, your bold predictions are, to put it nicely, unlikely to come true -- especially this first year of your new coaching regime. A little cautious optimism would probably be better for your psyche. You should give it a try.
NOW - for an English Lesson I hope you can understand = F*ck You.
Optimism is what you better hang on to - the axs whippin is coming and you know it.
Time is on my side you dumb f*ck, it's been 72 years since you beat us we ain't worried. Time is on my side goof ball not yours.
It's time for your meds, Alum.
It's been 72 years since Butler beat CV? What the hell does that mean? CV has been Butler's whipping boy for 14 years in a row now. Do you mean that CV still leads the all time series? If so, I suppose that's right, but (1) we're catchin' up in a hurry and (2) I'm not sure too many people care about who won the Butler/CV football game in 1948.
In any case, I won't be losing any sleep over the thought of losing to CV this year. I suspect the reverse would not be true for you.
In the record business, you're only as hot as your last hit. Granted, Coffeyville has a great history but that was years ago. We are dealing with today. Mike Tyson was a great boxer, but how would he do now in a match with the current champion? Don't get me wrong, I do wish the best for the Ravens, I am a graduate of that juco. I played football for Coffeyville in highschool. We were undefeated in my senior year, so I do have a knowledge of the game first hand. Football, like all other sports, is a game in which you must prove yourself every year. What happened in the past is just that. Past. I do believe Coffeyville is on the right track and may, in a few years get back to their winning heritage. However, I think beating Hutch, Trinity and Butler next year is a tall order. If they do that, I'll be the first to salute them.