Trigger-Nometry with Huber Concepts

John F. Huber (The Trigger Guy) believes the shooter should be able to release a shot on target within a time window of ~50–150ms (1/6 seconds). To qualify the trigger break, the use of a computerized stepper-motor technology, the DVORAK trigger Scan instrument for showing the profile for energy, travel distance, lock-time and shoe weight. A Pull Gauge is insufficient to test to Huber's Standard.

Shooting is Time, it’s about releasing the shot between the moments. Arc-Seconds of Angle, Feet per Second, and Milliseconds are at play when we are talking about shooting.

Huber Remington 700 triggers defined:

You can use a lanyard on your cannon or the kick-starter on your Harley to initiate an action. When shooting with your precision rifle, aiming in on target occurs in very short time increments between these moments. The shooter is either tracking or trapping the target to a point in time in order to intersect bullet on target. Tracking a target is maintaining a rate of traverse when we unsure of time intervals. Trapping a target is as the target moving into line of sight at an unknown speed but more certain of the moment of intersection in that time.

When sighting in on the target's center of mass at 100 yards, and the shooter is both supporting the rifle and seeking the moment to fire. The Shooter usually performs a figure–8 or a G-pattern across the target over several seconds. Most of the time, Our aim is OFF target, the shorter moments of On-target, are at intervals on the order of 100–200ms. And the bullet leaves the muzzle in 0.0015sec. The normal human reaction time is about 0.44 seconds (440 milliseconds). If your heartbeat is 72 beat/min., and your breathing 18/min., then your heart beats every 0.88 seconds. The rest period is 0.44sec. Beat, Rest, beat, rest, beat, Fire (at rest). Breathing interval is 3.3sec (1/2 exhale), pause breathing to increase interval.

To put it in perspective, Fluorescent lights “blink @ 60Hz (10–20ms), do your eyes sense the dark intervals? European AC power is at 50Hz. We don’t notice the difference. Cameras have shutter speeds down to 1/1000th of a second (motion blur with longer exposure). TV/ video refresh rate 1/32 second (31ms). All this involves time.

To catch a rabbit or a fly, your trap must be faster, quicker than the factors and target changes. Your visual and tactile percepts need to be able to understand sequence of time at a milli-second (0.001 seconds) speed.

John F. Huber (The Trigger Guy) believes the shooter should be able to release a shot on target within a time window of ~50–150ms (1/6 seconds). To qualify the trigger break, the use of a computerized stepper-motor technology, the DVORAK trigger Scan instrument for showing the profile for energy, travel distance, lock-time and as well as shoe weight. The DVORAK trigger Scan instrument for showing the profile for energy, travel distances, lock-time and shoe weights over time. The simple pull gauge scale (Lyman) is a linear load-cell device, is insufficient to reproduce the complex mathematical forms of our trigger. They have an improper refresh rate, and time application parameters. Results of the Dvorak Scanners are interpreted to the 3rd decimal place, are reproducible, printable and measurable. Huber Concepts serializes each trigger for manufacturing consistency, and seals all settings in as requested by the user. This means once you spec the trigger out, it’s factory sealed and not adjustable.

The Huber Concepts Remington 700 Staged-Break trigger uses higher order mathematics and unique geometry for differential, tactile, timing advantages. Timney and Jewell technologies (bell cranks & levers) have been around for 30–60 years and are shown to stack time. Results have been consistent and repeatable, but without regard to a time based activity like shooting.

The Huber R700 triggers are covered by US Patents 8,132,349; 8,677,665 & Patents pending, and are designed more for the shooter than for the rifle. First to be a shot-timer for the most versatile trigger; the trigger has evolved to have redundant safeties RH, LH, Bottom TRG. Versatility in single-stage as low as .271# or two-stage from 1.5# where you break the trigger from 3/4# to 1.5#, NOT from 0 (3/4# break weight). Nominal tactile break weights are from 2 1/4"# - 2 ½#. Higher break weight tactical triggers still smooth and tactile distinct. The duration of the wall is as short as 0.010–0.013” and under 3ms. Perceptions of single-shoe Set-trigger at aborted first stage pull-to-wall, reengage second pull to wall-Fire. SAFETY FIRST, if in doubt; recycles the bolt.

As most people think in whole numbers, I think about exponents in form. The effect is closer Sensing of the apparent break moment, not the anticipated break moment. If the shot is fired on time, perception is that the firing occurred instantaneously to the perceived On-target moment. The Dvorak plots the trigger; the break weight specified is achieved and shot released in a short increment of time & travel. Lyman pull gauges are limited to 12 pounds; can NOT determine time or travel. Dvorak Scanners are calibrated at 20 pounds and accurate to .001 values in energies, pressures time and travels. The actual chart is shipped with each trigger like a fingerprint. When your finger is married to the trigger, force is spread over the finger uniformly, minimizing lost time and tissue deformation through pressure and travel changes in the shot sequence. What that means is we are more consistent.

Test 1: Represented by a red line shows the pressures needed and distance traveled during the shot when fired with the double action.

Test 2: Represented by the orange line shows the pressures and distance traveled if the trigger is in the set position (which is when the first stage is taken up already.

Test 3: Represented by the green line shows the pressures and distance traveled when the trigger has the bolt open (which helps to define the sear pressures).

Test 4: Represented by the blue line shows the pressures and distance traveled after the trigger has been fired.

Test 5: Represented by a black line shows the pressures and distance traveled when the safety is active.





John F Huber’s Relativity statement and firing solutions in time.

Start with a solid platform and optical sight picture/ alignment, free floated barrel. Consider the situation : The Shooter at bench or off-hand with target at 100 yards. Normal atmospheric conditions; wind, etc. Over travel and follow-thru affecting next shot sequence only. Attention should be on the time period just prior to the shot. 100% of the focus goes to the shot and not to the trigger. It’s focusing on sight picture.

Finding equilibrium of forces on gun to align to the target ( G patterns across target) provide a very short increment of time to compile a firing solution and actuate the shot IN time. In seeking target zero, the time period actually on target is very short (.001 sec.+/-). When you project a laser dot on target, relative motion of the laser aim point is actually fast (Ft/Sec.). Due to the Uncertainty Principle, says the better gauge of velocity is inverse to accurate positioning. Heavy barrels dampen Vof aimpoint movement across target allowing more time on target to judge APPARENT Break Moment, not anticipated break moment. Aiming deviations are compounded by excess energies and vibrations thru the entire shooting platform. Harmonics. Barrel stabilization vibrations are typically not aligned with optics ( sight picture/sight alignment and directly observable in relative time periods. How the gun reacts to being fired. This makes for a SWAG ( Scientific Wild-Ass Guess) WHEN comes time to fire your gun. Compound the rapid orbit about target and platform and barrel vibrations/energies at 1000 yards; the aiming point moving about the target at large ft/sec velocities, higher arc angle extremes and extremely short increment to balance factors and aim ON target to fire. So the farther out we shoot, the more we are effected by the application of Time.

Human time perceptions are only good down to about .010 - .015sec.

Another major influence is the TARGET, it may not give you the time for accurate shot placement. In other words the time frame reference is altered or compressed – rush the shot & anticipate a break moment means more SWAGGING.

In thinking about the shot, you are either TRACKING or TRAPPING the target in space and/or time. The Moment of choice should be a qualified to your practiced Timing. We practice to be consistent and to learn our system. What we are trying to accomplish is nailing down the timing. The point of visually lining up the target and releasing the shot.

Addressing Huber trigger for Remington 700:

Shoe inertia,

Butt-Drop Fire,

Design - Characteristic, Feature, Flaw, Fault, or Defect

The primary function of this trigger is for better performance for the operator/ rifle platform to hit the target with improved accuracy over greater ranges. Leverages and energies to reduce shot timing issues. This trigger has long arc-radii for maximum mechanical advantage and greater Tactile sensation.

In other words: Huber triggers make it easier for the man to fire the rifle with higher hit probability.

Points to consider:
- Ratio(30%, 50%) 1st St# / 2nd St#

  • Final break weight
  • Sight Alignment/ Sight Picture
  • Shooter Tactile Sensitivity
  • Sympathetic Muscle & Muscle Memory
  • Recoil and Anticipation
  • Millisecond Timing

We look at Rifle Discipline as: Safety-ON until Ready to Fire.

So, if you are not in position to fire – The Safety should be ON.

The Rifle trigger is Double Safetied Internally, Sear & trigger.

A Rifle should NOT fire when ON SAFE via the trigger.

It has been observed that the trigger, when locked & cocked in FIRE (Safety-OFF), and Rifle butt dropped to ground from two feet has tendency to fire or release the firing pin, especially susceptible at the lower weights. This is due to mass of shoe element at length when in motion for momentum to exceed the force necessary to finger pull trigger thru to fire.

That means…. that if you’re falling up&down mountains or butt-stroking ground or brains; you’re NOT in the position to fire, so… your SAFETY should be ON… and the gun won’t fire, right? Or, if you’re in the position to fire Safety-OFF, you’re NOT doing parade rifle drills.

Presence of Mind & Situational Awareness. Rifle Discipline & Fire Control. We may not all be professionals with our tools & skills, but we must all act as such. The FIRST SAFETY is between the ears.

Huber Concepts is making every effort to minimized Shoe inertia in design and through mass reduction in components. Huber Concepts believes firmly in “Safety First” and “Form Follows Function”.